I've been researching several trends that occurred over the last few decades, and how we've reached the point we are at now. White men, at this point, are falling apart from a financial, physical, social and spiritual standpoint compared to where they were at a mere three decades ago. I have more or less concluded based on my observations that the two key elements that were introduced to cause us to fall this far were pornography and video games, as they successfully diverted the basic drives of men into futile, self destructive arenas.
First off, let's look at pornography since it is largely agreed here that it has a tremendously negative influence on men, and is obviously run entirely by the Jews. Pornography takes the basic sexual drive and diverts it into an activity that dominates a mans entire expression of his sexual self. And that goes far beyond what most people think it does, the sexual drive in men must find an expression, and traditionally, when denied or even restrained, when channeled properly, it empowers a mans physical and particularly, mental self. Many researchers have linked the sexual drive to the mental abilities of man. In other words, man seeks a way to find satisfaction of this drive through exploration, discovery, invention, and accomplishment.
Pornography completely diverts this essential energy into an obsessive hamster wheel cycle of pleasure without purpose, reward without effort, and more or less completely eliminates this essential energy from a man by diverting it down this path. One of the notable things about pornography usage is time investment. Masturbation, when engaged in without pornography, is a simple affair that takes up barely any of your time or mental energy. Pornography is, by its very nature, addictive and time consuming. Men will spend an amazing amount of time looking up more and more pornography while pleasuring themselves, sometimes spending several hours in a single day on this activity. Inevitably, they finally get around to finishing and then, in sense of disgust or annoyance, wonder what the hell they just wasted all that time on.
This is why it is crucial to cut this completely out of your life in order to free up the energy that pornography is consuming. Even if you are not interested in pursuing female companionship because of the difficulties that are present in our modern day society in finding a meaningful relationship that will result in a family, pornography is still heavily damaging your mental capacities, and you will be much better off without it.
Moving on to video games, which is likely to be a more contested issue here, my analysis shows that video games have completely diverted the male ego drives to conquer, to distinguish themselves amongst their peers, and to achieve high mastery or skill in a chosen endeavor, have been almost entirely consumed for many men by video games. This is devastating, as unlike virtually any other habit, or hobby that men engage in, video games provide no benefit to the individual pursuing them in any sense, be it physical, mental, social, or spiritual. Virtually any other way to spend time is better for you, yet most men spend thousands of hours of their lives on activities that don't enrich them in any way, shape, or form.
Video games are addictive, though, because they provide an outlet for the ego drive. It's a natural part of the male drive to do these things, which unfortunately is now siphoned off into artificial arenas in the Western world, which tap into the drive, but don't grant the satisfaction of achievement that real activities do. People put countless hours into video games or other pointless activities because the male drive to master and excel is being tapped into, but since it's not real, you never reach a pinnacle and gain that sense of greatness or achievement.
Instead, you are left feeling empty and you respond to this feeling by wasting yet more time on activities that can never satisfy or fulfill you. It's like the difference between eating a good solid meal or junk food, you feel sated after a good meal, while consuming junk food just causes you to shovel ever increasing amounts of garbage into your body.
The vast majority of video games are designed to tap into the ego drive, and fulfilling that drive is immensely rewarding and addictive. Men are feeling as if they have crested a mountain, or defeated their fellow males in a physical contest, when in reality they've done nothing but run through a Skinner Box and their achievement is nothing but numbers on a screen.
Even the supposedly non competitive games are still tapping into this drive. I remember long ago when I read a debate on a forum about the RPG games Japan makes, vs the RPG games the West makes, and one of the criticisms that was very effective against the Japanese RPGs is that, in most of those, you are assigned a character, rather than making your own. In Western games you make your own character. Now, if you think about it, the reason why that's so important to so many people is obvious. They view their character as an avatar, an extension of themselves, and having a pre assigned character lessens that feeling. So, when you slay the dragon, or save that village, or romance the girl, you want to feel, as much as possible, that YOU are doing this. Because that's what fulfills the drive that is causing you to sink ungodly amounts of time into this activity.
I think this is also why people become so wrapped up in video games and it comes to dominate their lives. Because, not only are they not getting the kind of reinforcement I described above, when engaging in this activity, but when they step OUT of this activity, they are reminded how weak, ineffectual, and lacking in distinguishing characteristics they have actually become. Your mind naturally returns to that arena where you have "accomplishment" when faced with reality, because reality is unpleasant, negatively reinforcing, while vice versa is true of the video game arena.
As Jews have gained more and more control over the video game business, the games that were more akin to puzzles or simple mild recreation are virtually extinct. And this is not just because of the Jews, but also because the market for video games demands this kind of game to be what is produced and consumed, as that is what brings the ego satisfaction that makes the activity enjoyable.
What this has resulted in is a generation of men that are increasingly weak and ineffectual on physical, social, and mental levels. We need to recognize these threats as what they are, and cut them out of our lives. The battle facing us is a great one, and the odds against us. We are not going to be able to win with men who are out of shape mentally and physically because they spent all the time they should've been spending on forging their mind and body on pornography and video games.
William Carter
Holla Forums I want to fucking quit porn and fapping. I became addicted years before swallowing the redpill.
I have tried nofap and for me, it honestly works. I have way more energy when not fapping and are better in all areas of life. Reading, mathematics, working out, paying attention, writing and ect.
I also feel more spiritual. When not fapping I am able to laugh, I am happier and have dreams when sleeping.
I have deleted all my porn but I still face the problem that I can't get past 3 days and it takes around 30 days minimum to somewhat rewire your brain. It will go 3 days, then I will have pain in my groin. So I kind of have to fap. Any tips? I am working out regularly now, trying to read books, taking cold showers and eating healthy.
Adam Hill
Hehehe, that's right goy. It's all the fault of porn and vidya. Don't pay any attention to xenoestrogens, the educational system, Hollyjew, the news media, (((feminism))) etc. etc.
Chase Howard
Porn is a huge fucking problem you kike.
Matthew Wood
That's a weak excuse and you know it. You can just take a cold shower when that happens and you will forget about it. The thing is that you have to learn to direct the surge of energy you feel when you get horny towards non-sexual activities such as creating things, playing an instrument, learning something new.
This sort of energy is powerful, as an example I can see the most depressed individuals who don't have the will to do anything but the second they get a little horny they can open up 100 tabs of different porn and like a hunter killer missile seek out good fap material, scrutinize each in great detail and then spend 20 minutes having sex with themselves (which is what masturbation is). Imagine if instead of opening up 100 tabs of porn they used that burst of energy to memorize japanese Kanji or some shit. They'd be fluent in Japanese in no time.
Logan Lewis
Congratulations; you've come to the same exact conclusion that every other Holla Forumsack has nearly 4 years ago. Now, how do you go about breaking these addictions? That's the question we actually face. Fucking Newfags, I swear.
Going the nofap route, I recall that the initial period allows you to masturbate occasionally so long as it is done using only your imagination. Go a few days, then jerk it to your mind. Feels a lot better, and you'll notice that it tends to be more vanilla too. The goal is to go longer and longer stretches; first, don't whack it for 4 days, then if you must then you do. Next time, 5 days. Keep doing that and it should at least be under control. In theory. If, you are like most people, you have difficulty with self-discipline, you are shit out of luck. pro-tip; if its between "drill instructor" and "this is just fetish fuel", you're probably at the right spot for self-motivation
Joseph Moore
There's nothing wrong with masturbation. As far as nofap goes, there's no evidence that it provides significant physical benefits past one week of abstaining, so, if you're after the testosterone boost, no need to take it past that one week cycle.
Now, as far as being able to do that, since you can't get past 3 days, like any addictive cycle, you should not try to overcome it with sheer will or keep your mind on it. Keep yourself active and when you feel the urge to masturbate, put that energy somewhere else by doing a set of exercises, reading a book, or even better, do something creative like draw or play a musical instrument, if you have that interest. I personally find doing physical type activities to be the best way to keep my mind off of it if I'm taking a break from masturbation. The key is to keep yourself active rather than trying to engage in some battle of will vs your instincts. You win against your instincts by channeling them into constructive outlets, not suppressing them.
Luis Robinson
That's the weakest fucking bait and yet you still got this retard to bite. I'm not sure who is worse tbh.
Colton Lopez
Do you not classify getting good at video games as taking skill, nor do you think they require a high mastery?
Carter Sullivan
Art is not an inherent good, jackass. You can be the most artful whore, but you're still a whore.
Easton Taylor
Blaming porn and vidya for everything is nothing but a simplistic misdirection from the entire melange of ((problems)))
Jonathan Perry
The method to breaking these addictions is obvious if you understand the problem. Find expressions to channel your sexual drive that involve creative effort or physical output, to drop pornography. This is actually much more important than simply going out and fucking actual girls, as even men who do that will still find themselves using pornography if they don't find a way to channel their sexual energy into something constructive.
The video games are actually harder, because the need that you're fulfilling with them is many times difficult to achieve in modern day society. That is, finding distinction and accomplishment vs your peers in a competitive environment. However, the effort has to be made or you will never break out of the cycle. The most successful methods I've seen are to focus entirely on ones career, (and I mean career, not a job that pays the bills) or, if circumstances prevent that option, finding a competitive activity like boxing, MMA, or something along those lines where you can still find a way to satisfy that ego drive.
It can even be something like lifting or other physical activity that is done outside of direct competitive activity, as long as, in your own mind, you are comparing yourself to other men who are now inferior to you and gaining satisfaction out of doing so. That is a natural drive we have, and you must find a way to satisfy it if you are going to quit wasting that energy on video games.
Lucas King
Porn is full of trannies. Look out for straight male spines on the "stars".
Justin Jackson
Did you reply to the wrong person? I'm not sure what you mean.
John Phillips
It is part of the problem. It is that simple. Reported for being a shill, it's obvious.
Connor Morgan
Yiff is produced by autistic westerners and sometimes nips, there's not enough money in yiff for the Jews to be interested.
If the Jews are to blame for you having shit taste in porn that's your problem, try not being so weak-minded.
Leo Cruz
The entire reason you find video games addictive is because they require skill. You are using it as a means to define your excellence as a male, to distinguish yourself from your fellow male competitors, tricking your mind into thinking that you have achieved ascendancy and dominance in the tribe.
The issue with this is obvious, achieving excellence in video games does not actually provide any real benefit or advancement to you on virtually any level. In fact, it's generally the opposite. Your physical, mental, and social skills all atrophy and weaken, because rather than strengthening yourself in those arenas, you are expending all your energy on an artificial simulation that provides, once again, nothing but numbers on a screen.
One of the easiest ways to understand just how damaging video games is to consider the amount of time and effort that you have spent on them, and then imagine you spent that effort and time on any other recreational physical activity, career endeavor, or social activity and think about the results that you would have achieved with that kind of effort and time.
Joseph Adams
So books and movies are bad too? Playing an instrument is shit too?
What do you really want from man?
Andrew Martinez
Fucking retards have been saying that for years. You want to know what the issue is? Disenfranchisement and escapism. If you've lived a life where you have never been in control, you naturally desire an outlet for control. When you are put out into a world that is designed to specifically fuck you over through apathy and the occasional browbeating, you have a completely demoralized individual. A demoralized individual, when isolated, is completely useless. So then, how do you beat this demoralization? You argue that you need to go out and challenge yourself. Bullshit, you need to go out and change the world. A challenge or competition is more petty than the active shaping of your environment.
What is art? It is a synonym for skill. Hence, art alone is not an inherent good.
Xavier Ross
Which is exactly what I'm implying, you complete retard
Nathaniel Martinez
You will live in your Brave New World and you will like it, goy.
Elijah Diaz
So you think some arts are bad. You didn't express your opinion on whether you think video games are good in your eyes. There is no need to beat around the bush.
Nicholas Hall
Movies don't provide any ego satisfaction as they are not an activity which requires active participation. This is also why, generally, men never spend inordinate amounts of times watching movies or television. Gorging oneself on television is something generally limited to women, or estrogen soaked men.
Your other two examples should be illustrative. If I spend one thousand hours reading books, or one thousand hours learning to play the piano, would you not agree that the benefit to me as an individual, is so much greater than what I would get out of spending that same amount of time on video games?
Brayden Perez
On video-games.
I agree with you when it comes to playing video-games beyond one's teens (a habit I am slowly breaking) but I would be dead without video-games. They allowed me to escape the nightmare of the school system and the teen years on prozac. I would have either killed someone or myself had I not been able to escape. It does sadden me sometimes that I couldn't channel my energy into something more productive but I grew u[ in a country with a culture that does everything to make learning as painful as it possibly can for the lulz (a place I am thoroughly incompatible with).
But when I look at the "competitive" video-game scene, it's like looking at a mirror of the pleb-ball scene. Fat, out of shape spectators, furries, doppy eyed skinny geeks cheering tired eyed pale sickly "athletes". Weaboos and all that. Men still playing games daily in their twenties and beyond are traped in their childhoods. In a sense, Gavin McInnes was right when he said that adults who read comics and dress up like batman are a fucking shame.
What I've found as I move through my 20's is that games have lost their appeal. A lot of it comes from cheaply satisfying desires one cannot accomplish in the real world (like being strong, powerful etc…) These were real fantasies that I latched on to because when I was a kid I was the reject who was weak in sports and bullied mercilessly.
But now that all that has passed, and is a decade or two behind me and I find myself doing physical work and being in good shape, most fantasies video-games satisfy no longer work. I also feel like I've seen it all before. At this point, I'm looking forward to the system shock remake, the next dragon ball fighter and that's it. I use to buy a game per month or more, now it's down to 2 or 3 per year, and dropping fast.
Gavin Edwards
Let me simplify this so you can add this up in a manner that is consistent; 1. I am not op 2. OP is decidedly against video games 3. OP states that the time playing video games could be better spent learning a skill (this is his mistake, not my own) 4. You ask "are video games not a skill?" 5. I respond that art or skill is not an inherent good. If this doesn't answer your question based on contextual clues alone; video games are a waste of time. The pursuit of a skill for the sake of possessing a skill is pointless; you should be more discerning with how you spend your time. Literally any other skill, like gardening or even reading provide more use in your day to day life and produce more useful results than vidya.
James Nelson
You are correct, but this is nothing new. Men change as society does. The conquering warriors fade away to lapdogs for the politicians. The hard working farmer toils away for the hedonistic aristocrat. We men are denied natural expressions, natural outlets. We were once promised a good job, a loyal wife and a nice house. Now that is all gone. Society made sure decent men were made and decent women for them, it kept things stable and allowed us to move forward. Now we're stuck with making men into women and women into men, to destroy our history and culture, to clamp down on any male activity and inject it with equality and sex.
I play far too much vidya, I know it is bad for me. I first need to focus on kicking porn and masturbation though. Many attempts at No Fap fail and my best is only 21 days. I really should try placing that energy and focus on porn first, masturbation later. I can go a week relatively easily, so maybe I'll just fap once a week without porn. It sucks though. NEET/10, depressed, very bad social anxiety, its all worsened by porn and video games. If I could turn back the clock and undo these things early, I would do it in a heartbeat.
William Butler
You fucking nigger, life itself is fucking pointless. You are all trying to argue about what video games are doing and what you could do instead of "wasting your time" playing them, but you would be WASTING YOUR FUCKING TIME doing anything else anyways.
Nigger.
Carson Murphy
It's hilarious how you probably think you support national socialism or something when goebbels wrote about how your kind are one of the worst cancers on European art
Juan Walker
user, think for a second my fam. Instead of being blackpilled about fapping/porn, and instead of just cutting out fapping/porn completely (which is near impossible for most people as porn is an addiction on par with heroine), what can you do with those two factors (reward, and effort)? Why not turn that frown upside down and use porn as a reward for an effort? Why not use that strong urge to fap as a carrot on a stick to get shit done? Learn to turn a negative into a positive, my man. And of course cut back on the porn slowly.
Hunter Myers
Good idea. This is what I do.
Same thing when I buy the occasional game. After an hour or two, I'll go do the gardening work I set for myself. You won't always find enough work to account for all your time, but it's a start.
Samuel Gray
Bane?
Colton Gomez
Yesh?
Jose Thompson
You could have sex with women rather than your hand.
Robert Roberts
You wanna know what is killing the white race? it ain't porn, or vidya, or feminist, or leftist, or even invaders IT'S FAT
Just look at chads say what you will about them being degenerate normies, they are healty with normal sexual drives, they fap to porn every now and then they waste time with vidya every now and then but when they time comes they still got the balls of an alpha to kick a nigger in the teeth ande claim ownership of their bitches Fats can't do that so they focus entierly on Vidya and porn you wanna fix society? don't go after the simptoms, go after the cause REMOVE FAT
Nathaniel Reyes
Depends on the video game. I doubt that spending a lot of time on grand strategy games or puzzle games is a bad thing. As long as you're challenging your brain while not letting it consume your IRl ambition I don't see a problem.
And let's be honest, we're not going to win if we become a bunch of no-fun allowed faggots.
Jack Brooks
The cause is the death of god caused by the industrial and scientific revolution.
Sperm isn't the same thing as testosterone. Nofap doesn't do jack shit to raise test levels.
Joseph Gonzalez
No, it's the other way around. You don't eat food but drink several liters of water per day (whenever you get thirsty). After 2 days, your body switches from waiting for food to consuming your fat reserves. You can go a very long time like this. Very overweight people who have done this say that after the third day you stop feeling hungry at all and then watch the weight melt off. When it's time to start eating again, when you have reached the desired weight, you start by eating soups and water rich vegetables and fruit (like melon).
After that, just make sure not to eat garbage or over-eat again.
Alexander Lewis
I think it has to do with, there are no battles to fight.
Nathan Rivera
gods died a long time ago abrahamic monotheism killed them all at least paganism left it's mark in christcuckery during times in wich that anty europe kike psyop of a religion was coopted by europeans but a kike religion will always be a kike religion
David Torres
BANE? A N E ?
Adam Green
This. 2D is beautiful and pure.
Jaxon Allen
flawless arguments, user. since you pointed out that porn and vidya are not the only things fucking up my life, I will continue spending 15 hours a day engaging in one (or both) of them
sounds like you are making great progress user. keep it up!
yeah, a lot of aspects of the competitive gaming scene are laughable - even in the eyes of normalfags.
Nolan Hall
GAS THE FUCKING MODS
Bentley Miller
Guess they have good tastes.
Zachary Thomas
Obviously (((they))) are the source of the problem… But porn and Vidya are their weapons to make men weak slaves. You have to free yourself of (((their))) control, and not wasting energy on fruitless pursuits is a big help.
Lucas Cox
It's really unfortunate that the mods close down discussions like these. Social issues like this are politically relevant and provide good discussion. I feel that the overall discourse on the board drops because of the censure of such topics, but that is the direction the mods have chosen to go.
Christian Sanchez
Nice trips. Besides, these threads usually have way fewer shills.
Elijah Miller
OP is 100% correct on both claims. especially on vidya - unfortunately there is a base of newfaggots that actually play the stupid fucking things and think that they could be accepted into a truly divine society. vidya is, as OP states, a mental diversion trick directed at white males. hopefully the SJW rampage into the vidya industry may turn some of the reformable mouthbreathing weeb faggots to the "red pill" and they can fill that time with fulfilling endeavors. i personally train and work out every single day (without a kike gym…i am a slav and make my own equipment and use body weight exercises to strengthen both my physical and mental endurance). i was never prone to the vidya disease however pornography had absolutely been a negative factor in my early life. however, eliminating the influence was massively influential and i am far more energized and feel free from the mental slavery that comes with (even passive) porn viewing. it is a disease.
better not have jynxed it nigger
Lincoln Richardson
They did it with a good nature thread (on whites and the value of nature) a week or 2 ago. Threads which even come close self-improvement tend to get shut down by these faggots. It's a shame as the threads I like the most are semi-"off topic" ones like this because there usually aren't any shills and they allow for discussion that hasn't already been had a hundred times before.
Kill yourself degenerate.
Oliver Cruz
It's a waste because cultural and social issues are what shape and form political narratives. If we can't discuss those it limits the scope of what we can examine and dissect in order to understand what's happening in our society, and how to combat it. I feel that the board in general is just becoming a comments section on news articles produced by the MSM.
Hudson Thompson
Nah.
Carson Hill
This. Absent or weak father figures are by far the greatest risk factor causing boys to fail to flourish. A known risk factor in the development of gender dysphoria, schizophrenia and various other conditions. These flimsy and transparent attacks on porn (and thus on male sexual release without female involvement) are being staged by feminists under the guise of "anti-degeneracy." In fact sex outside of marriage is far more degenerate as it ruins women.
Jonathan Thomas
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Cameron Thompson
I think you've got it right. Another thing to note is video games support the idea of hierarchy, winners and losers, some people being better than others.
Daniel Reed
Ejaculation lowers testosterone, which makes sense from an evolutionary psychology perspective.
