Doom 2016 would have been better if Bethesda had taken the initiative and made the first female lead in a Doom game. Everything negative about the game traces back to appealing to dude bros who won't let go of the original game.
Doom 2016 as a female lead CoD clone would have been superior.
Making the MC a girl wouldn't change anything other than the fact that, this isn't the Doomguy I know
Asher Sanchez
It literally wouldn't change a thing. There is very little story and the marine has almost zero character other than he likes to kill demons. I bet if they did do that, SJWs be bitching how they gave DOOM the female lead so they would have to put little development into her.
Michael Gonzalez
Doomgal is twice as cool as Doomguy could ever be.
Jacob Cruz
I never said the game should be exactly as it is only with a female character. Read the OP more carefully.
Jackson Garcia
If the new DOOM had a female MC, Holla Forums would bitch all the same but half the threads would become porn dumps of people jacking off to muscle females and dreaming of grinding their dicks against their abs.
So yeah, maybe the situation would be marginally improved.
Ryder Morales
are you mentally retarded, OP?
Noah Anderson
OP is twice as retarded as Doomgal would ever be.
Joseph Nelson
Doom needed to evolve for the female century. You are holding it back.
Gabriel Sanders
Trying a bit too hard there, bait-kun.
Isaiah Edwards
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Chase Ward
There's already a "Doomgal", her name's Crash (no relation to the bandicoot). Have you not played Quake 3?
Andrew Ramirez
To elaborate further, Doom 2016 could have been the first emotionally mature Doom game. It could have focused on Doomgal's physical and emotional struggle to survive a hell invasion scenario. This would have evolved both the characterization and the gameplay. Instead due to dude bro influences Bethesda and id went for a quasi-classic quasi-serious sam model that only appeals to dude bros instead of more refined gaming tastes.
It is clear that changing the gender identity of Doom"guy" would have been the first major step toward evolving the game in a new and better direction. It isn't like you guys wouldn't still have the old games to play like you already do now.
Do you see the issue here?
Ryder Wright
Why not a bunny like with Doomguy?
Jeremiah Cook
Gee thanks for clearing that up, reddit.
Grayson Adams
I only wrote that because I know some unfunny asshole was going to make the joke instead.
Ryder Anderson
Wow.. you're really going all out, aren't you?
Colton Brooks
Bullshit, the moment something like that came out every single one of you would be pissing your pants because of "THOSE PESKY FEMINISTS AND THEIR SOGGY KNEES"
Oliver Brown
Why did you bother responding to the thread?
Carson Brooks
This is what we need to change. Holla Forums didn't used to be like that, until gamergate Holla Forums wasn't hyper sensitive to social evolution.
Grayson Miller
I dont think it'd just be Holla Forums.
Ethan Davis
Just laying it on as thick as possible, huh?
Asher Jenkins
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Hudson Lopez
You do realise he's just shitposting? Check , can anybody say "first emotionally mature Doom game" with a straight face?
Logan Morgan
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Thomas Young
Yes.
Oliver Mitchell
Why are you afraid of social evolution? Or are you a creationist that hates all evolution?
William Barnes
I have no reason to believe that you are serious because your point is just so damned silly.
Carson Collins
I don't really understand the fun you're having here
Easton Johnson
Fuck me, I missed that post. Thank you user.
I need to see a fat doomguy with it's fat folds coming out of the armor. That'll make my day.
RIP AND TEAR MOTHERFUCKER
Jace Gomez
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Lincoln Cooper
Absolutely agree. The amount of femdom porn of her riding cowgirl on some whimpering Imp combined with all the Doomguy/Doomgal R34 would have been a true sight to behold. Yes I get you're just shitposting, but it's fun to play along.
Joseph Phillips
Wrong webm.
Liam Price
Yeah Holla Forums is the tumblr of Holla Forums. Say anything at any point and someone's getting triggered.
Angel Rogers
God dammit. You know why this pisses me off? Because some chucklefuck already made Doomgal a real thing that exists. If you ask most idiots what Doomguy's name is, the especially stupid among them will answer "Flynn Taggart," with a straight face, somehow. Flynn Taggart, the retarded, cowardly, weak-willed, half blind nitwit. I suggest to you that if you're going to pay any attention to those garbage books, then Doomguy's name is Arlene Sanders. That's right… Arlene, the mary-sue who's clearly depicted as better in every conceivable way when compared to her big dumb side-kick. She's the only one from those fucking books who even comes close to being badass enough to be Doomguy.
Levi Wood
That's pretty gay
Cooper Garcia
At the point Quake 3 was made, every single other Quake was completely unrelated to each other.
Quake 3 features not only DOOM characters, but Grunt from Q1 and Bitterman from Q2. They even extended the universe out to have new characters that were still related to specific sources.
Crash and Phobos, for example, know Doom's character – As they are all from the same time and place. If you pay attention to Quake 3 for about 3 seconds in the intro cutscene you see how people are hand picked and teleported to the Arenas which, through further reading, are held somewhere in a different reality.
So yeah, Crash is a "Doomgirl" (Who the fuck writes gal unironically you peice of shit) – and she definitely was a good one considering she was Doom's trainer (or something thereabouts.), and she didn't appear in any Doom games.
Just like how Major and Wrack are characters relating to Grunt, yet they never appeared in Quake 1.
Hudson Clark
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Dylan Jackson
The game would still be utter trash, we just would have gotten more porn
Grayson Cooper
>>>/r9k/
What backwards hole did you grow up in? Alabama?
I am not shitposting. This is a serious discussion.
There are Doom books? And they focus on a female character? I am genuinely interested.
Levi Wilson
/thread/
Christian Roberts
do you know why they gave him a bunny pet and not a dog or bird? did they ever explained that?
Cooper Hernandez
Some post DOOM porn. I know it exists.
Jayden Baker
A lot exists. Most of it is gay.
Isaac Ross
Quake 3 is an arena shooter with no real plot. It's nice to know they gave a female Doom character the spotlight though. Is she the best in the game?
Landon Phillips
Bingo. Especially if you think that a female character would be better because they are more emotional.
Das sexist, m80,
Gabriel Bailey
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Leo Gomez
Social evolution has no place on a doom game. It's just RIP AND TEAR
Liam Taylor
I doubt they would go with a cat because apparently John Carmack hated a cat distracting him while he worked, I guess its because they thought it'd be funny if Doomguy had a bunny when he's pretty manly?
Christopher Sullivan
at least we could have something in this trainwreck.
Ayden Walker
I'm surprised a lot of you took the bait this hard.
Dominic Powell
No, a game with a female protagonist sheds the burden to be a macho bro game and can focus on more emotional and intellectual aspects. Females automatically elevate a situation to a higher emotional and intellectual plane.
Tyler Cooper
Trust me, man. You must only read those shitty books if you are dead set on getting constantly pissed off by the "anything boys can do, girls can do better" bullshit that never lets up.
I know, right? Fuck people for taking that shit as canon, I take as much issue with that as I do people taking the Rip and Tear shit seriously.
Elijah Gray
yeah, that is the reasoning i was going for with a goomgirl having a tarantula as a pet. Girls like dogs/cats/birds, but not spiders, snakes and stuff like that.
Julian Miller
The bait is over, the time for talking about porn and pet bunnies begins.
Gavin Garcia
So men can't have emotional and intellectual aspects?
Das sexist.
Eli Turner
Quake 3 has plot, albeit very loose. – Some powerful beings seek entertainment by watching the universe's best warriors duke it out, and are bored of Xaero hoarding the throne and being top dog.
And you can even approach various terminals in the Tutorial Room (Where you first ever fight Crash) that tell you more info about how the arenas even work.
And I'd say Crash is as hard as the difficulty you set her to.
I still stand by Doomguy's name being literally "Doom" as it is in Quake 3.
Gavin Gonzalez
Get back to basic training, private Pyle
Jeremiah Clark
Sexism requires power + prejudice. You can't be sexist against men because they have all the power.
Sebastian James
Post it anyway, faggot.
James Brown
any lewds of doomgirl and hand holding demons that take responsibility?
Jason Richardson
Men aren't a cohesive political hivemind that strictly works to benefit men, otherwise men wouldn't have to work the dangerous jobs and all coal miners, soldiers, and oil drillers would be women.
You're sexist.
Brody Barnes
Well, it still beats the hell out of "John Grimm," which is one of the least stupid names for Doomguy, which still isn't saying much.
John Davis
I'll just post whatever straight (and non-autistic) stuff there is, fuck fudge-packing and hyper-cringey fetishes.
There's something very close. I dislike the artist, though. He draws futa, furshit and gay shit.
Dominic Hernandez
Men work those jobs because they pay well and they keep women from working those jobs or being trained to work in those jobs or being inspired to work in those jobs.
Females are now even going into combat in the military. This is something men have kept off the table for thousands of years. How can you deny male power?
Evan Powell
You're going to the electric chair for this you sick fuck.
Christopher Rogers
If men controlled everything, they'd force women to work those jobs for less pay.
Checkm8, sexist.
John Carter
Why not both?
Jack King
Fuck me it's opposite. Sorry.
Michael Wright
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Joshua Parker
would you an imp
Easton Long
Then men would be out of work and getting no pay.
Easton Anderson
Thank you for flying air rabbit, we hope you had a nice time.
Brody Cooper
If the patriarchy existed and controlled the world, it would provide for men, and only men, you sexist.
Julian Davis
I wish the concept of identity politics would be ripped from human conciousness so we could have stuff like that happen and it be good and without strings attached.
Noah Rodriguez
Men still need women, so of course it would still provide for women. It is exactly like a prison bitch scenario. Men treat women like their prison bitch. Prison bitches still get fed and taken care of, but they come last in everything and they get fucked.
Why do you hate women?
Isaac Wood
I always liked that quake 3 was basically "id all stars" before that was really a thing
Thomas Morales
If the patriarchy existed, they'd just enslave the desirable women to be used as breeders for their valued men, sexist-chan.
Christian Anderson
A military tries to unify soldiers into a single image, that's why its called uniforms. If there was female space marines, they wouldn't wear boob armor or tights, they would wear the exact same helmet and armor that males do. The only difference in appearance would be arm buffness, and even that might not be distinguishing.
Blake Wright
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Luis Long
I get where you are coming from, but there is no way to have a female character not be a statement until society itself changes over. You are progressive enough to see through the illusion and accept the reality at face value, but society at large is not.
We need more female protagonists, forced if necessary, in order to improve social evolution. Its good to know someone like you is doing their small part on Holla Forums to help, though.
Michael Cruz
Fucking this, i just want "doom gal" becuase itd fuel my dick and be a nice change of pace, no "moral" or "message" just something thatd be neat
Thomas Ramirez
Quake Champions is going to have a Doomgal. Mark my words.
Noah Butler
10/10
Josiah Baker
But Quake 3 already did
Jordan Wood
This already happens. Women are practically slaves right now. Sure they can vote, and we can speak up, but our voices are not heard and those we would elect are treated like they belong in the kitchen.
Brayden Perry
Itll have Crash
Ryan Anderson
im a grill btw
Gavin Davis
If women are slaves then why are they allowed to pick which men they fuck during all that time they spend outside of the kitchen?
You're not making any sense, Sexist-chan.
Jacob Green
Nigger I could write a 10 page parer on why you are wrong.
Tyler Campbell
They are trained into picking the men who hold the most money and power. Slavery doesn't always come with chains. A trained dog is a slave to its owner even when off its leash.
Oliver Ross
That's not how dog training works. Now you're sexist and you're mean to dogs.
No wonder people don't like you.
Landon Price
So literally, an AMERICAN SISTER OF BATTLE ON MARS?
SIGN ME UP.
Justin Nelson
Cant we just have a lewd doom thread, or just a regular doom thread, and not all this societal political junk?
Kevin Martinez
You don't have to troll, user. You can fix that hole in your life in other ways.
Carson Hall
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Jackson Ross
Leaving aside how wrong your observations of the world are, the alternative you're proposing is for us to be second class, so no fuck off.
Oliver Kelly
So you believe women have no free will of their own? Self-loathing isn't healthy, sexist-chan.
Ian Hughes
Doomguy is American?
Juan Perez
It'll also have a fat chick, a skeleton, a walking eyeball and a…Covenant from Halo.
hopefully.
Elijah Thomas
I thought 8ch was made to get AWAY from all the bullshit from the other place
Jack Reed
HOLY FUCK
WHY ISN'T THERE A SLAANESH DOOM WAD FULL OF /D/ FETISH HDOOM FUN!
YOU PLAY AS A DOOMGAL OR SISTER OF BATTLE AVOIDING COSMIC TRANNY PRONOUN BULLSHIT,
Lucas Carter
Fuck off, dipshit. Female protagonists are the cancer killing gaming. The answer is more white males.
Samuel Bennett
Go for it. I've got this under control. You post the porn and I'll keep them busy.
Joshua Baker
Considering its semi-canon he might be a decendant of both BJ and Billy Blaze, yes
Connor Myers
It was user, but unfortunately we can't keep shit away from it. We need something like a wall :^)
Aaron Foster
If females were in charge second class wouldn't be that bad. Did you never know your mother?
Free will is one thing, training is another. You don't choose what values are instilled in you. You can be raised to be loyal to the Communist party in China or you can be raised to be and love being a second class citizen (female.) Children get their values from society.
Isaac Gutierrez
No user, you are the dipshits. What we need is more good characters, not a female one just because rolflmao.
Joshua Nguyen
damn it actually exist, being a vanillafag is pure suffering
Christopher Ramirez
Female characters are inherently good. Male characters are overdone and 90% of the games available consist of male leads. This needs to be reversed for social evolution.
Joshua Collins
So, according to you, women are subservient, simple-minded creatures controlled by society with no free will or values of their own…
Wow, you're so hateful and prejudiced. I can't believe you think we need more female characters if this is what you think women are.
Robert Fisher
Im serious, last i remember this was made to be like "tumblr/reddit/sjw has overrun our chan, lets make a new one to go back to having fun and bullshitting around" and all ive seen since is nothinf but politics everywhere
Ayden Edwards
Doom 2016 was a fine game in its own right. A very fun shooter that is a bit of a breath of fresh air compared to all the other shit that's been around for the last decade or so.
If anything, it is at least more true a sequel to Doom than Doom 3 ever fucking was.
Angel Johnson
All children male or female learn their values from society. This is obvious and why schools exist. Are you from alabama or what? Do they not have public education where you come from?
Isaac Anderson
Sage for this being the ultimate bait thread and all these anons biting.
Ayden Long
Thats not true, by your own admission they can't even break free of conditioning on their own how could they do anything positive for the world? Besides that, second class is always bad when it isn't merited by the ineptitude of the person.
Noah Bennett
I don't recall the "force women to submit and give up all sentience" class in public school. Are all schools terrible, oppressive propaganda mills where you're from, sexist-chan?
Lucas Sanchez
No, fuck you user. It shouldn't be a girl just because it's never been done. If it's gonna be a girl, it needs to have a purpose and be well done.
Why bother, it'll just be overrun anyway. I'll be posting some nice webms for you folks.
Jayden Collins
It doesn't happen where you go on the internet, or which camp you fall into, there's always one principle.
Bentley Bell
You mean Lucy?
I thought he was polish at first of Jewish descent lmao
Nathan James
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Anthony Richardson
user, im disappointed.
Connor Morales
I wouldn't mind losing my virginity to a tall, muscular and attractive doomgal.
Carter Walker
How would they break free of something they have been taught to believe is natural and right? And there are those who have broken free, that is what feminism is about.
It is incorporated into every class in a subtle fashion. Why would there be a specific class to point to? Stop strawmanning my arguments you troll.
Charles Thompson
You can take a man out of the ghetto, but you can't take the ghetto out of a man.
Ian Sanchez
Sorry user.
John Garcia
I would verily play an original fps where you play as a qt space super soldier. I have no issue with that.
I do have an issue with Doom being that game. Such a change is unnecessary, especially if the reason for the change is that it's the current year.
Jeremiah Russell
Which part of Math and Spelling enforces ideals of patriarchal supremacy that encourage women to be brainless slaves?
And if they are so effective, then how did you break free of their oppressive programming? Do you really think all women are dumber than you? Why must you be so judgmental and hateful towards women, Sexist-chan?
Noah Watson
no, i mean angel.
Luis Williams
Quit over simplfying it. It isn't any specific lesson that blatantly spells it out in an obvious manner that could be refuted and dismantled.
Brody Richardson
How exactly is feminism the answer to anything? All it does is redefine words like rape and harassment and create whiners who can't handle a contradicting opinion. Feminism is absolutely not the answer, and proves why women should never be in charge of anything.
Jason Russell
I think like Polish American, second genration or something like that
Nicholas Thomas
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Brody Reyes
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Henry Gonzalez
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Blake Edwards
Then it doesn't exist. Hitchens razor.
Jackson Cox
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Jaxon Morris
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Connor Reed
Feminism is the means to put women in charge. Once women are in charge the negative aspects you don't like about feminism will no longer be necessary or a problem and we can start building our socially evolved utopia.
Though at how much of a fuss anti-feminists put up we may need mandatory castration to reach the phase where feminism is no longer needed.
Cameron Perez
Well both are fat anyway.
Christian Peterson
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Jeremiah Rogers
what the fuck am I listening to?
Kevin Brooks
EH REE EH REE EH REEEEE
Jose Phillips
If it was so easy to prove, then simple questions wouldn't leave you so flustered and angry. It didn't even take that much effort to get you to start saying that women are easily brainwashed slaves to an ethereal entity created by the raw will of men.
You can't say it exists because it exists. You believe it exists because you want to bolster your narrative, and without a basis for you asinine beliefs, you have no argument. No leg to stand on.
I'm sorry Sexist-chan, but you're a big stupid dummy head.
Christopher Harris
EHREEEH
Hunter Robinson
That is a blatant miscarriage of justice. Fuck off with your social manipulation produced "utopia".
Liam Cook
Women are only superior at killing children, breaking up friendships/teams, and wasting limited resources.
Jacob Sanchez
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Samuel Jackson
You have been manipulated your whole life toward feminism. This is why you are so hypersensitive to the current stage of feminism, because the end game is so close.
What you fail to realize is that this is for your best interests. You have already been trained to accept your new role, stop resisting.
Dominic Williams
WEW
How about a round of Daniel?
Joseph Powell
god damn you are good at this
Xavier Morales
give up niggah. you've baited all you can
Benjamin Robinson
user while you've gotten a rise out of one or two people, you'll have much better luck on Holla Forums.
Dominic Watson
dude. just kill the big ones so they stop stealing your shit.
oh god i sound like Holla Forums talking about black people
Joshua Jones
Kek.
Daniel Roberts
It likely would be if not every other thing is some politicized bullshit in entertainment now.
Daniel Williams
bullshit, she would wear boobwindows and stuff, because doomguy has a Abdomen window
Nathaniel Kelly
The arrows probably wouldn't kill the large ones.
Brody Adams
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Brandon Torres
Marvelous.
Michael Scott
The evil is defeated. Time to post lewd demons!
Lincoln Roberts
Does this count?
Nicholas Butler
For a second there I thought it was the same grouper stealing his shit. Still funny as fuck though.
Oliver Nelson
No no.. More like this.
Hudson Harris
are 2hu acceptable
Nathaniel Fisher
Ah, so something like this then?
Dylan Allen
wew lad Those are anime girls painted red and blue.
Jonathan Cox
How about a tale of a man falling in love with the demon who was assigned to torture him?
Julian Taylor
Fuck.
Elijah Garcia
but they're not cute
Nicholas King
Why didn't they give her muscle?
Charles Young
Because they're shitlords, user.
William Ortiz
I hope the new quake is popular so I get porn of her.
Evan Rivera
So? Dude, they could ride you like a fucking beast. Fantastic sex beats cuteness.
Jason Ramirez
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James Phillips
You're fucking sick and I hate you, please get the fuck out of here.
Robert Campbell
I praise the bravery of your penis, but where you must go, I cannot follow.
Parker Hughes
Can we go lewder?
Luis Williams
For the last time, look at the ab window and you see tattered cloth along with sratch marks on his skin, that was an undershirt for his armor
Jeremiah Hill
Everytime i leave Holla Forums for a while when i come back the avergae IQ has dropped significantly
I bet this place would alredy be dead if i didnt grace you peasants with my presence
Jonathan Ortiz
no, not even close
at least they faggot got the first pic right
Connor Lopez
more?
Asher Powell
POST MUSCLE GIRLS YOU FAGGOTS
Josiah Wright
Who the fuck are you?
You need to suffer a little first user.
Adrian Brown
forgot webm.
Anthony Morris
This is something I can support.
Matthew Martin
Awww….Now i'll never unsee it. And all this time I thought it was a ultra cool dude ab window.
Just like this picture of Duke and how you can never ever unsee him losing his cowboy hat.
Jose Rivera
Yuugi a shit
Thomas Kelly
Whare you you talking about? This thread was a huge success.
Henry Foster
they design it that way, the more damage he takes the sexier he looks.
Cameron Nguyen
He should have rapped about cookies instead.
No. >implying you wouldn't slam her as hard as fucking possible because she likes it that way
Jordan King
Thats objectively wrong.
Xavier Stewart
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Caleb Taylor
By Doom 2 hes a mess
Brayden Gonzalez
H Doom thread?
Isaac Jenkins
Forgot to sage.
Jace Ortiz
If you are posting females there is no need to sage.
why? please take this doomcomics as payment to STOP!
Nathaniel Stewart
fucking gay
Oliver Baker
welcome to web 3.0
Hudson White
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Nicholas Russell
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Aaron Williams
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Hudson Ortiz
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Leo Stewart
Into the fucking trash he goes.
Lucas Stewart
at least he does cute stuff
Julian Thompson
Not enough.
Liam Gutierrez
Oh my god, I think I'm in love.
Juan Brooks
my niggiest nigger, his demon, cyborg, and chimp girls are excellent
William Allen
I don't mind rule 63ing as long as the character is kept intact, the problem is that people try to change the character in unnecessary ways. They already changed doomguy's character, another layer of sacrilege wouldn't hurt. The SJWs would laugh until they saw how much porn was being generated, like always.
TL:DR Tits make anything better. The real question is, would she have a good tooty.
Somebody post the video.
Austin Cook
Why aren't there more muscle girls in vidya? Doesn't it make sense that they would be strong?
Juan Rodriguez
Maybe believable by a few gullible anons up until this point, completely blew your cover here though. Better luck next time.
Carson Stewart
Now what's your opinion on Doomgal? Are you opposed to gender swapping characters? Why? Why are you so insecure?
Lincoln Scott
This isn't your thread anymore, faggot.
Dominic Campbell
need more doomgal lewds please
Chase Rivera
No.
Thomas Brown
The purpose of gender swapping a character to be female is for them to be cute. If they are not cute, then it's bullshit and a waste of time.
Nolan Mitchell
Stop being retards and do what we always do when OP is a fag. DUBS
Oliver Gonzalez
Got you covered fam!
Adrian Green
the yandere porn would be interesting
Connor Young
obviously that user wanted to make the joke and you cucked him so now hes mad at you