FO2 is trash

Oh fuck. I wanna try that now, make a run for Navarro, grab everything and power armor then abuse then finish the game as fast as possible whilst everyone blows up.

Is it just me or has weekend Holla Forums been even more shit than usual lately. Is this a reddit raid?

or go HtH. Crit fails are much less crippling when you don't use weapons.

FO2 is the Bordermemes 2 of its day. The first game was kind of serious, then the second game they just filled it with memes.

Speak for yourself, reddit.

Your newfag is showing, though it was also showing when you made the cheap b8 thread.

I found a spammer town or whatever the fuck that was through random encounters. It was extremely cringeworthy.

Thanks, Todd

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Dude, stop.

I too love TFA. Gotta get them mouse bucks.

dudebro, stop tbh fam

fuck off already faggot

So how do I end up killing idiots as this set up?
9 INT, 10 AGI, and 10 LUK the rest 4-6 at most, took gifted and jinxed how do I use this to my advantage?

Tag unarmed combat for your fights against creatures who don't use weapons(crit fails are much less damaging against non weapon users), get the best armor you can, and basically let any fag who uses a weapon kill himself with crit fails.

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(2) quality posts my man.

It's still summer for the NEETs, user. Also don't forget special needs kids spend less time in school, and real pieces of shit just don't go.

sage because this is obviously a bait thread and if it isn't then OP really should go to school or go somewhere to learn some taste

Refute my post or fuck off.

Son, your post was bait, and shit bait at that. I know you're fresh from reddit, but there is no need to pretend you're a moron too.

Yes /r/RedLetterMedia where Jack and Rich post doesn't exist and they're still not Reddit you guys

REFUTE MY POST

FO2 HAS SHIT COMBAT

Nah, you just have shit taste.

You've convinced me to try out FO2 again, I couldn't get into in it the first few times which was odd to me seeing as how I've played through all of FO1 3 or 4 times.

Ok, maybe this is a good place to ask:
Just got wasteland 2, any tips to help a newbie out?

It's not my first time playing a game like this, but it's been awhile.

Use your keyboard and mouse

Make sure you actually equip radiation suits.

Assault Rifles, assault rifles, assault rifles. Don't waste skill points on any other weapon first time through.

Glad to hear it. THere is always a fun way to play in these games if you look for it.

Holy shit, I had a feeling Bethesdrones were subhuman in more than one way, but I never predicted they were feelingsfags.

OP never mentioned Bethesda you silly goose

I'm finding it infuriating trying to get to San Fransisco as the moment. The encounters keep fucking my face and I barely evaded the fucking Enclave, my guy with levels can handle this and I had a high outdoorsman so I could simply say no but every fucking step I take I get an encounter, god damn it.

FO2 is trash, but not for the reasons you wrote, OP.

Sniper Rifles are good too, and they have better range so you can initiate combat from further away. Energy weapons are great vs robots but they suck for most of the game, so nobody should use them as their first choice.

It has good parts. Compared to F1 it's pretty bad, yes.

The enclaves are a bitch. Move one step, stop, save. Move one step, stop, save. Took me maybe 20 minutes. Also, walking from den or klamath instead of arroyo and as far as possible from the enclave base helps, even though you'd need to get to enclave base to get the power armor. Just be a bit patient, and get the radar thingy or something from SF that increases your outdorsman even more.

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What's the context of that gif, again?

I don't have any intention to play FO1. I heard there's a time limit, I don't like time limits. Why is it better?

Oh right I forgot about the motion sensor, I did the exact idea you said step a bit stop, save rinse and repeat. Fucking hell, got some free caps off of some mercenaries fighting random guys, so I got myself a free power fist and some energy cells to boot.

Fallout 2 has a time limit too.

oshit, there's /r/Holla Forums. Does that mean Holla Forums is also reddit?

You saved your home, his life and a lot of other peoples' lives. He then kicks you out because you'd be a bad influence from the outside.

Unfortunately yes, because you're here.

Can you fuck off so we can be not reddit? Thanks.

Try to level up a bit around SF too, before getting to enclave.

I've finished the game, and I don't think so.

Fire up a handheld to keep in your lap. Literally half of the game is spent watching your guys move places.

Also, take the delayed learning trait on everyone.

You never got the cutscenes of that one guy telling you how everything is back home? Shit spooked me as a wee lad when I didn't see it coming. Still does to an extent until I realize it's just him.

Yep, use extra skill points to raise it to 100 or 150% and then take Tag! to double it for the end game when Energy Weapons are plentiful and useful.

It's pretty much a waste though, unless you want to fool around, since Small Guns is so overwhelmingly overpowered compared to the Big and Energy.

Alright, here we go!
Indeed it does. Bonus Rate of Fire and Fast Shot (has penalties) can reduce this. It's reasonably fair considering how advantageous ranged fighting can be over engaging multiple targets in melee.

Super sledge cost is fair considering the damn thing will knock enemies a hundred feet away. I found I was only able to hit enemies with it once per round. But you're right, melee attacks have lower AP costs in general.

I think the idea was that you would want to save some AP to raise your Armor Class at the end of your turns, since being in melee is supposed to be dangerous.

Fighting in melee against enemies that use burst weapons is still a bad idea but you are again correct, after a certain point melee does become too easy.

I don't understand why it should always critically hit but you can make it so it does. 10 Luck and Sniper means every bullet that hits will be critical.

Range makes a tremendous difference in accuracy. The other 2 are personal points, I think the system is fine this way but I can see points for the alternative.

There are a lot of factors in play that reduce that 120%. Being even a few hexes away starts to take away from your 120%. As does enemy armor class, lighting conditions, ammo type used, the guns themselves. You're under the false impression that 100% is 100%, in reality, you are only 1/3rd as good at that skill as you could be.

Aiming for the specific body parts isn't just some kind of fun, it has a real purpose in game. You are spending an extra AP to try and land an extra effect by hitting a specific section of an enemy. From a real world standpoint, sure that doesn't make any sense, but it's a video game.

Why would you want to skip the NPCs turn? This doesn't make any sense.

SUMMARY: There you fuckin nerd, I refuted your shit.

The game has problems and you make some valid points. The combat in F2 isn't much fun, especially when you're expecting so much from it. I think you're just overthinking things.

The time-limit is 13 years. Not even close to Fallout 1's actual time-limit.

I don't know, but I think it's triggered by missions, not time. The village always dies after you come back from Enclave or retrieved the GECK.

Those are on a timer, but you don't die or something after you see the last cutscene.

And they spooked me as a kid too, I had nightmares about it, but none of the other spoopy stuff in 1 or 2. Go figure.

no.

I finished it in 6 or 7.

In FO1 do you?

Better writing, better villains, towns are more believable and work with relations with each other instead of being theme parks (town where everyone is a gangster with no food source), not overloaded with jokes and references, better item progression and balance.

It does but it's something like 10 years, nobody ever sees it unless they deliberately skip time and wait for it.

That was about Wasteland 2, but I guess it kinda true for Fallout.

MEh. Subjective.
FO2 is good.
Nothing wrong with jokes.
FO2 has the Vindicator. Your argument is invalid.

Shouldn't you be playing Fallout 4? I hear that has even more awesome leet guns of doom!1!!1!1 XD

I could be wrong, but I believe you get a game over cutscene when time is up.

I know you're fooling around, but in Fallout 2 (and 1 to some degree with a turbo plasma rifle) when you got a BFG it really felt like it. In Fallout 4 you never get to bully low-level encounters because of the shitty level scaling. There's something to be said for powerful weapons actually feeling powerful.

Nah, it's time. I fucked around a lot and the first one appeared.

You mean THE time limit where it just cuts to "The End," right?

Thank god it's as I should've expected not just me. I would be totally bored by shit like 5 Nights at Freddy's if it weren't for the fact that jumpscares actually get to me. It still sucks, I just picked the worst example I could think of in like five seconds.

why dont you open up your reddit tabs and tell me all about reddit you redditor
>>>/reddit/

Haven't played F4. Does it really have crafted guns with infinite ammo and shit like +%cold damage?

You can use resources to mod existing guns, guns with affixes drop from legendary enemies and can be bullshit like "double damage on full health enemies" on a sniper rifle or "fires two projectiles" on a fat man. Or garbage like a radiation gun thing that does extra damage to ghouls, which are either immune or healed by radiation.

WELP

The only good fallout game period is NV. It's a criminally overrated series

Sorry, that shit's retarded.

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WHAT WERE THEY THINKING??

There are weapons with elemental damage like Ice/Fire/Poison/Radiation in FO4 straight out of Skyrim.

When people say "shootan is gud at least" they do not mean combat is fun, they mean functioning crossairs and aim down sights (as well as a manner of leaning you will never use) and a some streamlining.

Also Fallout 1.5 Ressuraction sucks.

"it's 1998"?

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Triggered.

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w-what

fallout was always a meme game

… what's the difference between the 1.1 MB install and the 625 MB install?

wew

How much time it needs to read from the cd vs. reading from memory. Bigger installation means less time spent reading the cd (since it's all in memory), which means a faster game.

At this point memory is so cheap and plentiful that there's no longer a reason to pick. Just install it all on memory.

Holy shit, I was so retarded that I forgot we used to need CDs to play the game after installing.
Fuck, I don't miss that.

It's just how much time has progressed. We don't even need physical media to transport the games anymore, just to store them. It's only a matter of time until we can stream games properly, although we'd need much better internet infrastructure for that.

I actually removed my CD drive from my tower years ago because of how little I use them anymore.
I should look through my old PC collection and see what I've got. I remember one of my favorite games was My Disney Kitchen

Not memory (as in RAM), but the hard disk.
The contents of whatever part of the game you were currently playing were loaded into memory regardless.

My Disney Kitchen was the shit.

True, but it was faster to read from the disk than from the cd drive. No I/O involved.

At this point we can just fit the entire game in RAM. It's pretty impressive.

Yeah, it's nice.
Not to mention it can be dl'd off the internet in a few minutes

My current download speed is around 30 MB/s. It is extremely great. I'll click a button to start the download and it's done in the blink of an eye. The little bar animation takes longer to run than the download.

We can even fit entire virtual machines into a browser tab with just javascript, and was never meant to do that.

As a matter of fact it was supposed to be abandoned for something better twenty years ago. Yes we all are too old to be here.

Just Moore's Law in action. Everything that is powerful now will be obsolete in a few years, but that also means that anything that's hard to run on modern architecture will run beautifully on hardware just a few years from now.

I don't like time limits in games either. But the time limit in FO1 is extremely liberal. Time only passes when traveling on the world map, so all you have to do is travel to a location, explore everything you can, then leave to go to another location. First time I played I think I got the water chip before the timer was even halfway done.

REEEEEEEEE
Moore's law is about transistor density, not processing power, and certainly not usable processing power in the [current year] octocore ARM processor era.
It describes trends in SSD capacities much more than processing power. And it's not even a law like what Newton came up with, just some observation that only sort of fits with reality from time to time.

The important point to focus on is that hardware capabilities regularly increase each year. Whatever rig you're proud of now will be pathetic in the future, and people will wonder how we ever lived with such weak machines.

Art thou mad, sir?

The .44 revolver only cost 2 ap for me and I had like 14 ap.

He's right. I got first shaman vision cutscene on timer and then jumped directly to the fourth one, skipping the other two after obtaining the GECK. The part after the fourth cutscene will happen anyway and it won't trigger the gameover, so it's not much of a time limit.

congratulations, you're near the end of the game, lad.

I still have it, I actually have it currently in my tower because I needed to install some bullshit for my internet. Still works fine.

he fell for the "installation CD for DSL" meme

I was a coin toss away from buying an M/O drive, until I found that they were genuinely useless.

I regret not purchasing Fallout 1 at the yardsale I got Fallout 2 at, but it's not like I can't get it for pennies online. Still, I got that nifty book with Fallout 2.

Actually it was for my wireless adapter

I made the "mushroom clouds" from the fallout 1 manual once with the help of my sister (shut up, I was 10 at the time), they were pretty good one of us even thought they were "super cute".

I hate time limits as well, and it kept me from trying fallout 1 for a long time. It's honestly long as fuck, and there's little chance it would ever run out even if you were taking your time to 100% the game

it still doesn't make sense.

They should've increased the melee damage instead of decreasing the AP.

Because I'm spraying 50 fucking laser rounds right in front of someone's face.

No, I mean all those hard earned skill points to upgrade the skill are wasted.

That's the reason why I'm mad, I've dealt with sacrificing my AP and now I have to also deal with the fact that I also sacrificed my chance to hit the enemy at all? It's too punishing.

Well no shit.

Because when I fight a dozen of that slow bullet sponge mutant things, the game becomes snail paced.

You only refuted one and justified the rest according to your opinion.

Well, I've overplayed the game.

I remember wanting one of those back in the day just so I had more storage space for my Sailor Moon hentai pictures.

I wanted a SuperDisk drive, because they were backwards compatible with standard floppies, but they went under too quickly. Zip disks are easier to acquire, and I see them on occasion in thrift stores and yardsales, so a drive would be handy.

My floppy collection in the nineties was full of DOS warez and cracks, NESTICLE, VGB-DOS, and a few ROMs for each.

What's stupid is, I have a 486 and a first-gen Pentium system in my office, and neither one likes anything but 3.5" floppy drives. Not CDROM drives, not even 5.25" floppy drives. Each one has stupid BIOS issues that keep them from mounting new hardware. They both halt when attempting to access the BIOS; the Pentium because the battery in the DALLAS chip died, and bypassing the battery takes a rotary tool and more effort than I care to expend.

Akshually…

More's Law is hitting it's physical limit. We have reached the point where we can't increase the physical transistor density anymore.

I'm rolling a charming lucky retard. Hopefully I can make it through the game alright.
Statistics
Strength: 06
Perception: 03
Endurance: 06
Charisma: 08
Intelligence: 01
Agility: 06
Luck: 10

Traits
Finesse
Jinxed

mitebkewl. Fallout 1 and 2 were written to cover such a character, and it's damn funny at times.

I typically play with 8 or 9 INT, depending on how easy it is to get to 10 INT through other means, early in the game. More INT = more EXP = more skills.

I'm stopping at Klamath for tonight after changing my stats up a bit
Strength: 10 Perception: 03 Endurance: 05 Charisma: 07 Intelligence: 01 Agility: 04 Luck: 10
Got a kick out of talking to Torr, the town retard in Klamath since if you're both retards it writes out an entire conversation as dialogue meaning where you're just yelling your names at each other.

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Sound like this thread has made people want to start playing fallout 2 again OP, so it looks like you kinda failed to convince people that fallout 2 is shit.

But look on the bright side, rope is cheap and no one will miss you when you're gone.

Finally, you're simply nitpicking. Some user tried to answer your questions, but you don't want answers. Instead you want low caliber shitposting about a game you either:
A) didn't like
B) didn't actually play much

Don't leave a note when you go.

No, he should leave a note saying something like "I can't live in a world where Sonic's arms are blue"

Jesus, never go lower than 3.

He wants to go full retard.

Yes, the original Fallout games are incredibly buggy games with horrible combat, broken balance and are fairly ugly. It's alright to jack them off because playing a game only for story is fine if it has terrible mechanics as opposed to straight up walking simulators. The series is shit. Only the first one is anything interesting.

Who are you quoting

Are there any mods that add features from Fallout 2 to the original Fallout?

Fallout 1 and 2 drew me in so much with the story that I literally don't care about anything else you said.
I guess it might seem broken to newcomers now but so does DOS. I was fiddling around with both at age 9, they just feel like tying my shoes at this pointno brag

Play Fallout Resurrection.

There was an attempt to overhaul FO1 into FO2 but it died.

Literally anything is better than Fallout and Fallout 2's interface. Don't even TRY to pretend that the inventory isn't a penance designed by God himself to punish the unbelievers.

Nah, simple addition of mouse wheel support and it's fine.

The inventory is not fine by any measure. Your shit just accumulates and accumulates, including useless quest items you're too afraid to discard in case you need them later.

Stimpacks and bottle caps inevitably end up near the bottom of the list and you have to scroll aaaall the way down when you need healing or just leave the stimpacks in one of your slots permanently, not like you'll be switching weapons in combat very often.

Not by default. With mouse scroll it is.

Important notice about Fallout 2: acquire and install the No Mutants Allowed patch for it. It fixes SO goddamn many script errors and crash bugs. Too bad the site is full of fucks.

If it's been taken down for any reason, I have the widescreen and unofficial (and official) patch installers archived, and I can stick them up on some site when the sun is up again.

You mean killap's patch.

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Do you think this is some kind of boycott?

c'mon.