SARGON BTFO

SARGON BTFO
Is this the end of the septic community?

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Neither Styx nor Sargon are leftists, if you got a real leftist on Dicky would have gotten BTFO instead of this circle jerk.

KYS trannypol

The imaginary "real leftist" that can debate. Unlike the clusterfuck of failure that always ensues when leftist actually debate.

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Anybody to the left of sargon seems to be too autistic to hold any kind of intelectual discourse with people who don't belong to their cult, and just freak out and act as if the other person is literally hitler for holding common ideas that humanity held for its whole history.

Sargon is but a wee babe.

Sargon is a conservative. He just think he's still a liberal cuz he doesnt want to kick out all the Pakis etc etc.

Making a living making fun of sjw and feminist every week does not make you a liberal. But calling himself liberal makes himself feel good I suppose. Just say you're a conservative liberal. Not that I listen to him much anymore. There is only so many times you can watch sjw or feminist wildlings get btfo before its just rehashing the same thing over and over. He's good for YouTube ppl doe I suppose.

He's like 35.

It was a joke.

As far as I can tell, he basically just wants benefits, and not to be mean to darkies (because he is one).

jews must be enraged that their golems let that slide

So if we put you into a debate with a Chomsky or a Hitchens or a Carlin you think you would humilliate them effortlessly?

If they did try to debate him, which they wouldn't because they would try to deplatform and assault him first, then they would frequently interrupt him and call him several pejoratives. That's what we've seen in his university talks.

I don't like Dickie Spency, but you've proven that you're nothing more than complete clowns who throw tantrums with the intention of shutting your enemy down.

Is he wearing makeup?

They did have a 'real leftist' on his name is Richard Spencer. Alt-Right / Alt-Lite = Bolshevism.

Who the fuck is sargon, you are all dipshits

Most of those people are dead, so it shouldn't be too hard.

Sargon of Akkad (Akkadian Šarru-ukīn or Šarru-kēn, sometimes known as "Sargon the Great"[4]) was the first ruler of the Semitic-speaking Akkadian Empire, known for his conquests of the Sumerian city-states in the 24th to 23rd centuries BC.

You have no idea of what those words even mean, do you Timmy?

I usually am disgusted with Spencer's faggy voice but holy shit Sargon is such an insufferable douche. Also why is anyone giving these faggot attention? Doesn't Spencer have better things to do than talk to these people?

He believes in colonization and capitalism as proven means of wealth and quality of life distribution, which if you actually apply hard logic to it, were the only things that actually helped fucking dindus and all other barbarians in this world to live a little better than animals.

How retarded are you? I said the left can't into debate, you then ask me if I personally can debate X person?

You remind me of the old Hitchens article in Vanity Fair when he called out women for not being as funny as men. Then a bunch of women accuse him of not personally being as funny as X female comedian. As if that had any relevance to his point. You are the kind of dumb person Hitchens made fun of.

get a load of this brainlet thinking these are even intelligent people

Dicky sounds like a homo when he makes long vowel sounds. He needs to stop it.

Carlin is the most overrated hack in comedy. He's pretty reddit-tier in hindsight.

>not knowing he is a nazbol homo being planted by (((them))) just to take the piss

yes it's actually really cringe when you actually watch him on stage

Tricky Dickie is such an obvious lisping faggot.

Jesus Christ i couldnt get too far in but they are both retarded.

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Thats actually a nice fedora and doesnt look bad on him. Could Sargone pull it off? Doubt it.

#rekt again

chomsky is a hippie, he doesn't have anything in common with modern left-wingers

Isn't Richard Spencer gay

Most old time leftists would be thrown in the alt-right ball pit.

Yeah I'm sure that commie kike is oh so different from the other commie kikes.

Do people not understand the fedora meme has nothing to do with the hat? It's about the attempt to appear classy without actually putting any effort into your appearance

Richard Spencer is such a massive faggot, I don't even care what they are talking about

gross

common misconception

Ehh he's alright. There are a few times where he does think he's almight and all but he's not that shit.

The meme hat is not even a fedora, its a trelby. But stop being a /fa/ggot.

Chomsky's left-libertarian philosophy is retarded and literally would never work without authoritarian oversight. But lets not pretend he wants a government that controls everyone (even if ironically enough the only way to create his society is to have bureaucrats enforce it).

He looks like an extra or a minor character from a period film.

==I don't care anymore==

Sargon is a total nobody. He's every faggot in a FB comment section that tries to sound intellectual. He brings fucking nothing to the table except his popularity. That's the only reason anybody is talking to him. Meanwhile you have someone like Jean-François Gariépy who's only relevance is his argument because he actually has one. Sargon isn't even willing to actually have an argument. He is literally just out for attention and the ego stroke of saying these meaningless words that intelligent people sometimes use so they must be a good way to argue. Spencer might as well debate PewDiePie while he's at it.

Has he ever explained what he wad doing with a Bush?

Richard Spencer did nothing wrong. Also, Fuck Sargon, how the fuck did you make him look saner than you?

The problem is being left at all causes mass deaths.

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Yes, because the only thing you need to refute with a leftist, is meliorism
when it's closer to, some aren't bad
Problem lies with toppling down their delusion, because sometimes not even stabbing them where they stand works.

marxist don't even realize that their utopia can be built and become fully operational in a few weeks, month tops.
It's called a labor or concentration camp, where everyone is 100% equal, but keeps their individuality (^:

I tried watching that whole clusterfuck but couldn't last more than 30 minutes. Sargon's faggotry has really exceeded my lowest expectations of him. He was just being a whiny cunt the whole time and you could tell that no one else on the stream really wanted to get into it with him, because they were trying to avoid the shouting match he wanted to start.


Like tricky Dick said, Sargon believes himself to be far more intelligent than he actually is. He has a very strong mental image of himself as this razor-witted, silver-tongued jokester who can weave multi-layered insults that cleverly trap his opponents in his web of intellect. To this day, he's still really proud of that "I wouldn't even rape you" tweet, like it was one of the wittiest things any man has ever twote.

So, of course, he thinks his "liberalism" makes him the better man than everyone else. He's so well-read, and he knows all the obscure authors, and he holds himself to these lofty ideals, which not only makes him smarter than all the other lefty faggots, but also better than all the right-wing fascists that get him so worked up that he spends 2+ hours being a whiny twat in front of an audience of thousands.

That explains everything

Imagine getting BTFO's by a gay russian shill who doesn't even believe in the shit he says lmao

Just a little more prodding and Sargon will be pushed over the edge into going full lolcow.

Dubs confirm.
He's been dragging this out for too long, anyways. By this point in their career, most youtubers settle into doing let's plays to stay afloat, or they become lolcows.

You must have missed his appearance on the Joe Rogan Podcast. He was, without a doubt, more of an unprepared bumbling idiot than Jontron was when he debated Destiny.

Can you just imagine Sargons life if #gamergate had never happened.

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I bet all you faggots going SARGON BTFO are the same ones who were cheering him 3 years ago.

Yeah, what kind of a retard would change his mind about something, right?

Did Holla Forums really move here?

Such hypocrites!

Today's Daily Shoah with Spencer where he talks about the debate

my.mixtape.moe/jsewru.mp3

enjoy :)

Nah, his content was/is fucking boring.

butthurt semite

You obviously don't know the definition of Semitic. Not all Jews are Semitic and not all Semitic peoples are Jews. Did you fail ancient history in school?

That was a joke, dumbass. Sargon has literally no connection to the historical Sargon besides the fact that it was the name he decided to pull from history to use online to look educated/informed.

He used to play a lot of Rome games I hear.

one drop rule kiddo

Of course, I have a deficiency in detecting jokes nowadays, please forgive me user. Yeah I thought the historical figure image was a good one and a few are doing it. Gotta admit it's better than a cartoon bear don't ya think?

Its a lot easier to put lipstick and a pretty bow on a bear doe.

Fun fact: Destiny recently tried arguing in favor of child porn. The dumb pedo faggot literally tried making the "ethical CP" argument on a livestream.

Huehue truetrue.
I guess Sargon should have stuck to history and left the politics for obscure videos and no live-streams.

That's a Metokur video in the making.

I thought that was a shoop. LOL

Politics is how he makes money. Politics is his career now isnt it? Im pretty sure it is.

It is. I do miss his in-depth and principled videos on liberalism. Whether or not his un-prepared live arguments will be his end is another question.

Naked Ape has made a video on Destiny as well: hooktube.com/watch?v=v0uv_VEfIv0

This was really frustrating that he didn't call Sargon out on one of the much more obvious examples of Sargon pretending he's above it all. If this was well-timed they could have shut this fucker up for good.

hooktube.com/watch?v=E-4WCFwjhZ4

Not really. Destiny is actually smart so even for edgy shit like child porn he still argues his points well.

and most likely nobody made an actual argument against it, only made fun of them for even having the opinion.

truly whites are the most cucked race. no different than niggers, arguments are won by who's loudest/more popular/has more peer support.

Is this the new /skepticgeneral/?

What is all of human history for 500 Alex?

Naked Ape looks like he has genuine autism. He's smart but gets really mad over the most trivial shit.
He also calls the most bland shit autism while simultaneously sperging out. He fits right in on 4chan.

really activating my almonds here.

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No he doesn't. He's a typical postmodernist debater. He simplifies everything down to the point where the original subject becomes irrelevant. Just listen to how many times he says "specifically" in any given circumstance. The guy bases his arguments on asking for "specific" evidence and narrows down on this the entire time. At the end of the "debate" you end up talking about nonsense. This is not a debate, it's a pissing contest.

So a bunch of Atheist and Satanist walk into a podcast.

we need a destiny fan to show these guys how to debate.

you guys remember the shitty horror movie where everyone on a skype call starts killing themselves due to possession? If only that happned in this situation

Sargon would be the fat guy shoving his hand down into the blender.

What Satanist?

Styx666

Just got off of work and watched the entire thing. For reference I'm a professor at Rutgers in Philosophy.
Sargon btfo Spencer.

Most of the time he gish gallops, meaning he just throws a ton of shit out there and switches subjects too quickly for anyone to respond. It's actually a formal debate tactic, but it's most often used by niggers to win by technicality, rather than the strength and articulation of their arguments.

Everything else is the typical marxist pseudo-intellectual crap, which always sounds nice, but makes no fucking sense when it's actually applied to reality… Or when you think about it for more than a moment, or if you're not a mentally unstable faggot who relies on a band of sycophantic redditors to constantly stroke your fragile ego while you beg for more e-shekels.

Styx isn't a satanist.

Would you mind doing a write up of the philosophy behind Richard's arguments? I have trouble being able to define my philosophy beyond the pragmatism/heuristic goal of preserving whites and advancing my people's interests.

Quads say otherwise.

wew

Reminds me of this quote by Tesla:
“Today’s scientists have substituted mathematics for experiments, and they wander off through equation after equation, and eventually build a structure which has no relation to reality.”
— Nikola Tesla, ‘Radio Power Will Revolutionize the World’ in ‘Modern Mechanics and Inventions’ (July 1934)

Explain this!

Gladly!

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are you such a closeted faggot that you can't bear looking at a man without a shirt on?

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If this were true any smart person would call him out on it. I think he largely stays on point. The fact is he comes out looking a lot smarter, which is the only contest really.
I disagree with everything you said about Destiny's debates, but even if you're right his opponents should be able to clearly point out his bullshit tactics, which they never do. At least not effectively.
And it's not even about Destiny's opinions. He's just really quick-witted. He's similar to ben Shapiro that way where I don't agree with him but he comes up with points too quickly for people to make him look stupid.

That quote is relevant to more than just scientists. Most modern academia is so lost up its own ass these days that they stopped caring about how their poorly conceived assertions apply to real world situations at all… It's kind of like retards on tumblr getting really heated over some discourse about a character being a tranny or whatever and is escalates to doxing and sustained harassment, because these people insist that this completely irrelevant topic is deeply important to the fabric of society and worth killing someone over, for the sake of protecting the feelings of oppressed minorities.

Sounds like a bunch of horseshit.

Fair enough. But either way, he should put on a shirt.

people do it all of the fucking time. I've only seen a few of his videos and every fucking person calls him out on it.

t. gaylord

Have you watched his debates? He doesn't give people time to prepare, let alone respond. He interrupts his guests constantly and starts blurting shit out as fast as possible and then when they fail to respond, he goes on the attack and starts slinging insults. The guy is a fucking trainwreck of a person who sees himself as a misunderstood genius.

I hate Spencer and Sarcuck, but I gotta say, Tricky Dick put the octoroon cuck in his place.

I can't stand listening to the guy tbh.
And I was surprised by how rude and childish he was towards Tara McCarthy in particular. I don't know how JF managed to be so civil to him when talking to him.

DOUCHE VAULT

Download the audio then, if a guy without a shirt (though wearing a leather jacket) makes you this uncomfortable.

because JF dominated the conversation. He didn't give into the petty arguments that Destiny threw out there, he just talked on a philosophical level, like a normal rational person.

I've only seen 5 or 6 of his debates and the only one to do this was NoBullshit, and that guy was retarded.
What are some videos of Destiny debating someone who isn't retarded? He did fine during the JF and Jim debates.

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Were we watching the same debates?

Watch the metokur debate or the Naked Ape debate, both of them ruin him. Also, Dick Masterson perfectly explains what I was talking about and he calls Destiny out right off the bat (video related).

I thought they were pretty even and no one looked like an idiot. People have a tendency to think whoever their eceleb is won the debate. After the Metokur debate everyone on Holla Forums were saying they couldn't understand how Destinyfags thought Destiny didn't lose, and vice versa.

I can't make it through more than 5 minutes of Naked Ape. Ironic since what little I've seen of him he's the closest to my political stance, but he sounds like an angry teenager.

Destiny has a dedicated fanbase of retards who think everything he says is right, that he can do no wrong, and that he's the smartest person on the internet. There's probably more than a few underaged faggots now who are going to go around the internet unironically using the phrase "ethical child porn" because they think Destiny did such a good job arguing his stance on it.

I think his voice is annoying too and he is probably about average when it comes to intelligence, but he literally made Destiny rage quit and called out how retarded he is.

Not sure if shill or not anymore tbh

It's not that uncommon, undercover agents joining an organization and actually slowly aligning with that organization.

What, the heated personal attacks and the constant use of appeal to consequences didn't make Destiny look like an idiot?

DO THESE FAGS KNOW WHAT IDEALISTIC MEANS?
These libertardian septics are all the same. They know shit about how the world works. Their whole empiric basis of thought rests on a bunch of selected works of a few LUNATICS!!!

Ethnostate is natural social organization. In fact tribal of which ethnostate is a further natural evolution. On the other hand pretty much anything else is IDEALISTIC, forced.

Libertardians are dumb as shit.

The idealism is the idea you can maintain a tribe perpetually in an ever evolving society. You are more idealistic than John Hammond.

We are already tribes.

What is the name of your neighbour 3 doors away to the right of your house?

🤔

Still have plenty of things in common with that person.

What's the red circled thing?

A Ribbon?

Maybe so, but whatever structure we have, it is unlike a tribe in almost every way.

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Who said that?

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Child Porn is indefensible you fucking degenerate. There is no ethical solution to it.

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The idealism is your assumption that you can't mantain. Your point is based on manufactured contemporary reality that is forced upon us.

Homogeneity to a reasonable degree is natural and proven by the fuckin history of mankind ffs. People with things in common (including race) tend to naturaly flock together. The same can be said for any other species.

The multiracial state is idealistic bullshit. The ethnostate is natural.

Oops, bumped Reply. As I was saying, of course the majority of people would make fun of ANYONE trying to argue positively in favor of pedoshit. It's fucking disgusting, and deserves mockery.

My assumption is actually simple observation of multiple failures to do so throughout history.
Its like trying to launch an ice company today just because they were successful in the past.

Sargon's latest video on Iceland is a great example of why I'm still subscribed. Yet I cannot even watch 5min of the debate. Maybe he should stick to researched videos rather than posturing and ego bashing.

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If you already know it its not worth listening too.

Holla Forums is a radical centrist board

How radical?

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No it isn't, corporate marxism and lolbergtardianism has no place here.

t. Destiny

t. thread theme

all non-whites must die, period, end of discussion

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Yeah people like Noam Chomsky are just screaming babies when they have to face true intellectual giants like Milo and Little Benny.

You are an ignorant child.

Am I a democratic national socialist?
Or just a democratic national centrist?

Noam Chomsky is a fucking retarded muslim apologist.

He may be far more educated and smart than any of them, but he would still be OUTRAGED by any unpalatable pedestrian idea and just appeal to his own authority to discredit them.

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Jesus Christ, the entire chat is just >, le funny reddit frog, and people spamming his emotes he stole from reaction pictures from halfchan.

They talk about civ failures and White civ failures and never get to pointing out the root, and while jews are the actors of destruction what allows them to jew is the mind poison in Whites, cuckstianity, which strips Whites of the protection that ethnic identity, awareness and adherence provides. jews know this, admit it, and even then so many Whites can't step away what's bad for them and most that do just fall into the same mind poison with a different wrapper of communism.

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We both know the only "idea" you're thinking of is that you don't like to be around dark people.

Really makes you think.

How so. Did the Roman Empire fell because it was too culturaly and ethnically cohesive or because it wasn't.

Your side is trying to reinvent the wheel and make it square.

(((Democratic))) nationalist socialist probably. Centrism doesn't mean anything, socialism does and is unrelated to the jacobin spectrum. Not being authoritarian is kind of cucked tbh and will inevitably result in social decay, a sovereign is necessary for long term prosperity and decisions not made to just win the next election.

How many racially homogeneous empires have destroyed themselves? Should I assume it was the racial homogeneity that destroyed them?

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Christianity is directly responsible for allowing Jews to flourish in Christian European societies.
Even without Jews Christianity is a fundamentally alien religion that is incompatible with the European Spirit.
Christcucks will always pick faith over blood, and so they will carry out the will of kikes even without them being present.

that doesn't preclude the fact that Rome fell due to multiculturalism. Caracalla gave citizenship to the same people that ended up sacking Rome in 410.

okay but this isn't tv

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That "fact" is your own assumption.And I'm not even going to deny it here, lets say its 100% true.

Its also a fact that racially homogeneous empires did not last any longer, so your claim of that advantage is also false…

The practice of celibacy is another flaw of Christianity. Those closest to God do not continue their bloodline. Hitler was right for favoring Islam.

How many?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_empires

>(((Democratic)))
You're dead right

I try not to be authoritarian in my political views because it is something I am afraid of (if in power; you despise it if you are the weak peasant). If you were in power would you be afraid of doing wrong by your people? I sure would be. I don't like the Sword of Damocles very much thanks. That's why I lean democratic.

It's a fine line. We should protect our culture/heritage/values amap!

Seems to be the goal of most politicians these days.

No I have a BS degree and am working towards a Masters in History. Read The Fall of Rome by Bryan Ward-Perkins, it's the definitive historiographical piece that explains how Rome was too weak after the third-century crisis to give up it's borders so it gave power to Germanic tribes that defeated them in 378, Valerian died and it was all downhill from there.

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Ethnic diversity is counter intuitive to a working government, this was common sense to most 18th-century political theorists. Montesquieu, Rousseau, and the 1790 Immigration Act of America are just a few examples.

If you even read the New Testament you would know it's anti-racist and that most Christians are hypocrites.

I have read dozens of different theories about the fall of Rome. I'm particularly interested in the ones with anthropological basis, which point out how the development of the human intelligence (abstraction capacity in particular) made so that the religious pillars of Rome no longer were effective in a changing landscape.
But the fact is, they didn't fell unlike any other Empire, they all were succeeded by either democratic systems or other empires until those were succeeded by democratic systems.
Blaming the jews for all human development is dumb.

No need to blame the jews, Romans fucked themselves by allowing Germanic people into their culture who could have cared less about Roman customs of legality and preferred to sack it instead. Multiculturalism is stupid and democracy only works in tiny city-states, and even then it's a shit show because humans are incompetent and fall into party politics, especially without common customs.

How can anyone think "might makes right" works in a post-nuclear world?

Everyone god's children/the same, be a doormat, egalitarian for any not you and yours at the detriment of you and yours, born a sinner/hate yourself. biblehub.com/luke/14-26.htm

So basically, you ignore the fact modern society as a whole basically anally rapes ancient empires in every single way and measure, except for your personal feelings?

there has never been and never will be an alternative to might makes right, often it's more accurate to say the majority makes right

Is that why Germans started dressing as Romans, living as Romans, raising their children as Romans, became Roman rulers? The more you know..

Homogeneous? That is a list of empires, not of homogeneous empires or states.
Pick an example from the list and let's see the causes of their downfall.

take an honest look at modern society before you bother to post this shit, not even technology can save us from our own retardation

I reject your jewish god and gods in general. There is no need to anthropomorphize the unknown in the first place.

I'm not a big fan of the dark ages. Are you?

Wrong. 'Democracy' or republicanism as it should be correctly termed in the case of Rome, died during the fall of Rome only to be revived again during the enlightenment.

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I have, and the only issue with it are either radical leftists who feel like the world is wrong, or radical rightists that feel like the world is wrong.

To me, the clear solution is simply the extinction of that issue by its own hands, and natural selection of humans who are apt to survive in a modern world.

Rome (as well as America) glorify the symbol of the fasces.

If you don't submit to jesus' love he'll have you tormented for eternity.

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he was a socialist hippie, and there is no heaven or hell

turn or burn, :^)

the modern world is hardly different from the ancient world and the "world" isn't right or wrong, it just is

Seriously all of you politispergs better fuck off back to /reddipol/ and /poleddit/ before I sick my goons on you.
#lizardsquadnever4gets
#hopenoth8
#killanazE

I'm betting you're misinformed about the dark ages.

fuck your goons and fuck pol
hail TV

🦇hoo

Jews cannot operate in Tribal societies because they themselves are a Tribe and become immediately identified as an external threat. Christianity had removed the Tribal aspect from European societies.


Christians believe the most noble state for a woman is for her to be locked away in a nunnery and married to Jesus

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Christianity is a direct result of a schism in Judaism. You cannot postulate a single reason as to why Christianity is ultimately good for Europeans. Why did Jews migrate largely to Christian nations and not nations of religions that previously had no knowledge or relation to them? The answer is because Christians honor Judaic beliefs. And the worst thing Christians did was to try to forcefully convert kikes instead of killing them, if Christians were actually kike killers than why are they still around? The reason we still have kikes is because you fucking christcucks decided you could force sneaky jews into paying lip service to your religion, and all they did was take over. And you are foolish enough to believe that you haven't been totally subverted. You are a golem for the jew, because you have adopted their faith.

More like, if you don't accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Saviour, Satan will have you burn in hell for all eternity.

Nothing different about a world in which you can't possibly know every single person who lives in your fucking block? Nothing different in a world that is near capable of producing offspring in vats? Nothing different in a world where heavy physical labour is near extinct?
I struggle to see what is even 'similar' to the ancient world.

Christianity is for socialists who need a god.

The Romans were Tribal then?

Yeah, dude. Ditching the horses changed a lot. Whats some classic horse kink tv?

That would apply to ancient cities with a population above ten thousand (and there were a lot).
except the vast majority don't even do this let alone know about it
Maybe you should go to the inner-city and observe a construction site?

Romans were Tribal at first, but as their empire grew they abandoned the Tribe and became a multi-cultural, multi-ethnic and multi-religious society. Rome was shit and a detriment to Europe.

then god isn't god or god approves of your eternal torment with satan being his implementer of said punishment.

radical rightist?
Rightist are reactionary. In fact by now only ultrareactionary qualify as right.


indeed, nicely put.

They used to be, but their legalism promoted citizenship the same way America does. Hence we will share their fate.

This place really is turning into Holla Forums wtf.
Sage…

Reactionary is just a word for radical that wants to implement a fictional utopia from the past instead of from some jewish philosopher's handbook.

Barbarians had nothing worth keeping and Nordniggers were Niggers. Their civilization had nothing worth of value, all the could do is burn, rape and pillage. Sounds familiar?

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^this
It's also why the Jewish race has so much control of world economics.

All they did is prove that universalism (christian or just secular citizenship) is stupid and that might does indeed make right.

trips don't lie

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Not including TGTBaTU is a crime!

Are you fuckin retarded? For fucks sake.
The only thing reactionaries have to do with fictional utopia is that they stand against it. Libtards fags brought on their idealistic fictional bullshit scam and reactionaries reacted, hence the fucking name.

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That's why I'm completely authoritarian. If you know that you will rule your entire life and that your progeny will rule after you then you won't do retarded decisions that will benefit you in the short term but fuck the nation and its people in the long run. In an ethnically and culturally cohesive society the peasant and the king want the same thing.

I also think it's important to mention that supporting authoritarianism doesn't mean you yourself want power.

God sacrificed his only son so that you could have a chance to be saved. If you don't take that chance, then it's your fault. God forgives everything but the Devil doesn't forgive anything.

either go to pol or fuck off, this is tv

Most of European pagan art, and places of worship, were destroyed by the Christian invaders who slowly converted europeans into doing their bidding for them.
Greece and early Rome were both european pagan societies that had resulted in fantastical achievements that are still remembered and exist today, and that is because these regions were directly controlled by christcucks and converted for their own purposes.
Ever hear about the Northern Crusades? Well while Spain was being occupied by muslims, Christcucks thought it'd be a good idea to forcefully convert more "Nordniggers", and so they declared war on their fellow europeans. Sound familiar?
Also it's very telling that you will denigrate those of nordic stock while championing your own particular brand of Judaism for Goys.
You are cucked on a physical, mental and spiritual level.

you can't even tell me why god has a personality

Do you really think a forcefully enforced etno-state would be the same as a naturally geographically isolated or language-barrier isolated etno-state? Specially in the day and age of planes and ships?

if all non-whites were dead this would not be a problem, the key is to get whites to go on a killing rampage that ends in the stars

Zorro and Tornado is kino!

That worked great for germany.

You are blind to the logic, if god is god and allows you to be tortured for eternity, that necessarily means your eternal suffering is sanctioned by him, but he loves you..

There isn't even a specific devil you moron, the "Devil" is a jewish meme that literally denotes anyone that Kikes don't approve of. Jesus in the eyes of the Jews was a devil, because he made opposition to their interpretation Judaism and loosely formed his own sect through his own interpretation. The only people who can be rightfully christian are Jews that convert to it. Abrahamism as a faith is fundamentally alien to those peoples who are not native to the Middle East.

not when the rest of us were too cucked to realize what they were doing

The only reason Rome stopped being low iq tirabal niggers in the first place was because they got fucked in the ass by the Teutons. They realised that being tribal meant being weak.

It did until the international kike sent waves of human zergs. No ideology can withstand that.

I like the music!

Then let the Muslim do it, they are way more fit for it and so the earth will be racially homogenetic at last.

but why does god even have a personality? the answer is because the notion of someone watching over you and giving you a place after death (good or bad) is comforting

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They got fucked in the ass even worse when they gave citizenship to the descendants of the Teutons

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The only thing Hitler did wrong was that he was a truly compassionate human being, and so his idealism superseded the need to be pragmatic.


This is your brain on christcuckoldery.

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what did the anime girl mean by this?

really gets my nogging grogging

I like the sound of that but it seems a little idealistic and something from the past thus not possible today. And how do you know that you will not fuck up or that your progeny will? I don't want to be remembered as a tyrant. I'm Che not Fidel. I am willing to cede power only for the right reasons. In your diagram I guess I am halfway up the right side between Libtard and King.

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excuse me?

the muslims need to die too

Libertarians like all left tend towards anarchy. With their principles as extreme individualism and liberty can lead only toward that. They are the original leftist or rather wrongist. Communists are just a further evolution of that dumb thinking. The utopic communist society is fully democratic and fully individualistic. But all are so "enlightened" that vote for the good of the collective. It all came out of libtard think.

The political spectrum is RIGHT - WRONG.
Or at least seem to tend towards one or another. Libertarians, socialists (liberals how you american call them) and communists, all tend toward WRONG.

Why? They seem to be exactly what you want in every way except the fact you were not born there.

as long as the thread exists, fuck off

the left and the right are both flawed, there is no simple answer to the future only that your tribe survives and all the rest die (both the left and the right can hinder that in blind faith to equality or tradition)

The seven deadly sins has nothing to do with the Devil, the invocation and correlation with sin and devils is a meme that arose later. Jews made many laws to protect themselves from each other, but they do not apply to non-jews.

It's not just about location, ethnicity is the key problem. If they were my people I'd naturally be all for it. ya dumbass

>durr we need to get more white people to kill and rape more niggers!

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that actually makes sense from a non-relativistic self-interested POV

I thought you wanted whites to prevail because its what is best for the human species, not just your feels and pride.

You do realize how retarded you sound, right?

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I don't care about humans in general, only white people. That's called knowing yourself and your place in the world.

If you are right about society, that means you were born in the wrong race and the losing team and there is nothing you can do about it in 10 life-times. Enjoy.

I don't wanna read through this thread, can anybody TL;DR me what happened?

I like the music!

Radical centrists VS Holla Forums and Holla Forums

And would you care to tell me who the winning team is? kek, either way it makes no sense for me to argue against my own team (self-interest is the basis of my logic, not sure what point you're even trying to make)

it's cancer, this is tv not pol

I liked the CGI!

The compilation of books you call the bible, as canonized by Christian authorities is a very recent document that did not exist until after the devil meme had taken hold in Christian belief systems.
You aren't doing anything to invalidate my point about the Devil being a Jewish meme, what christcucks think is of no consequence to the historical usage of the term devil in Jewish societies.

that's an oxymoron

who said I care about a moral high ground?

Maybe it is idealistic but I think any notion of democracy giving power to the people is far more idealistic and much more naive.
There are no guarantees of success in this life in any endeavour. A person born and bred to rule and whose life depends on doing so well will likely have a better chance than a puppet appointed by the people who is really in power in a democratic society if you ask me.

I don't disagree at all, history has proven Hobbes right and Locke wrong.

I'm making a new board if BO doesn't anchor this thread right fucking nao. He always anchors my threads when I BTFO the alt right but leaves these up wtf

If you are correct that racial unity, might makes right, etc… then Muslims or Jews are the winning team. Whites are doomed.

Kind of like The Last Jedi!

If there is no moral trepidation than the pragmatic solution is to remove nigger.

Yeah, they kind of are at the moment if you haven't noticed.

stop thinking in relativistic terms and think in terms of self-interest, I'm white ergo I'm for whites and against the rest, what about you?

Hardly. I strongly resist SJW/Commies and Hard Right cause they make us look bad.

Yup, just xposted this to /sudo/. Breaks the global BO rule.

nobody here is alt-right

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you mean you're a pussy?

Islam is not a race, there is very little "unity" among arabs and nigger muslims, there is very little unity among muslisms in general even if they share the same racial ancestry, a lot of violence among refugees is actually refugee on refugee. They are ultimately in Europe to exploit Europeans but they also see each other as competition.
Jews aren't going to win anything, they actually share the same projected fate as whites but are too busy trying to fulfill their prophecies, they believe that the messiah will save them once they have completely fucked themselves.

I disagree, but its a complicated issue.


I only care about my family line, who carries my own DNA. In today's society, I cannot assume there is any degree of familiar genetic link with my neighbours and 'tribe' as was the case in the past.

Puh-lease sweetie. I can sense a nazi from three threads away.

nazis/alt-right aren't even the same thing, but you're also implying that those are the only people on the right-wing

All nazis stop posting here or I'll fuck you up.

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So either you're mixed and feel conflicted or you're not willing to say what your ethnicity is which is, by extension, a apart of that self-interest you feel towards your family (historically this has been the case up into the last 70 or so years)

Unless if you are of heavily admixtured ancestry or are living in a land where no one shares your genetic ancestry than this is untrue. It takes tens of thousands or even hundreds of thousands of years for races to form, that doesn't disappear because of "lol modernity"


You're speaking to a chronic shitposter in earnest, someone who probably actually shares your views and opinions but is only here to make fun.

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Not everyone has an ideology you can pin them down on.

lol I CAN'T EVEN TELL ANYMORE

I'm a lefty, an actual one, not these gay fashionable ones with the colored hair, and I don't even know what your leftypol shit here is supposed to be about, but it seems about as clownshoes as vanilla Holla Forums, ultimately worthless hive of aspergers.
Putting a legit lefty spicy man on there would not simply red pill the twats( FYI, you fags revere BBC when you reference that.), but would quite brutally blood pill their boipussies.
These funbois just know their faggy old school corporate astroturfed screeds from astroturfed think tanks and prostitutes, thinking they know anything, which is akin to some dumb cunt debating with their Gender studies and Lesbian priming feminist works, utterly worthless twaddle. The only one truth is the use and threat of force, regardless of pretend diplomacy and niceties. Brainwashing ideology so as to fool and cull the peasantry from daring to challenge authority in the forceable future and to indoctrinate for obedient peasant workers, is all deployed after.

No, I'm just pride of my family's history more so than some mythical race. I can proudly say a large section of my city is named after my grandmother because she was a great person, I can proudly say my grand-grandfather is in my country's history books and taught in schools.
I don't need some fantasy about race to be proud of my heritage.

Yeah, that's the failure of the multi-kult. The niggers will kill you and your spawn if they amass enough numbers though.

I share the sentiment but our people are dying nevertheless.

That can be easily controlled with a non-lefty government that will put down and kick out any nog that chimp out. The final outcome would be a very fractional chimp population, but the principle is what counts.

ethnicity isn't a myth, it's a legitimate reflection of genetic mutation trends over time in different geographical locations with different IQ distributions and tendencies toward violence within the communtity

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Your choice to reject racial belonging in favour of librul individualism is why the west is fucked and why your daughter or granddaughter will have to get raped by a horde of shitskins. You're too dumb to see the bigger picture tbh.

I'm not saying ethnicity is a myth, I'm saying that your heritage is the myths inherited from that race, which are mostly lies in history books. Either positive or negative lies, whereas I know my family history is true.

You do not understand, those books mentioning your great-grandfather, that section of city named after your grandmother, are highly temporal things that will cease to exist and will be grinded into dust.
History is not written in books, it's written in blood, biology is the fundamentally persistent force that even allowed any of those things to exist in the first place, the names of your ancestors are something that sprung forth from the physical interplay of your forebears existence, which without a genetic basis could not exist. Blood is important, because they changes made to it cannot be undone, and the potential of that blood is literally all you have as a biological organism. You cannot defy your genes, you are both limited and enabled by them.

Please stop posting, you have no idea what you're talking about.

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which is part and parcel to saying ethnicity itself is a myth

>Kikes convinced me (((my people))) are dying so that I may go fight sandniggers for them.

you are no better than creationists tbh

Do you have any experience with dog breeds, SJW-user?

mate, there is no perfect social organization since the human is imperfect (unlike what humanists think). The thing is that Tradition is relatively RIGHT, while equality is absolutely wrong.

We like good food and dislike shit. We like beautiful things and dislike ugly things. We recognize these due to billions of years of trial and error. And we should walk on the same path towards perfection.
After billions of years (tradition), it is pretty obvious that eating shit is harmful. It is the wrong way.

that's not why people fight wars in the middle-east user . . .

I will arm myself when the time comes friend.

"I am responsible only to God and history" - Franco

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In a few generations your history will become a lie, and then what? You will have nothing, but the physical memes that you carry are the only thing that can persist. No one will remember your ancestors, if you do not have any offspring that shares commonality with them.


You're literally regurgitating a Jewish belief system while calling me a kike. The Dichotomy of Good and Evil is a jewish one. Everyone that they did not like was a devil, was evil. Its a subjective construction used to limit your thinking and to prevent you from questioning their Jewish laws.

and what reason are you(not the jews jewing the US!) are you positing why?(hint: you're wrong)

okay but christianity is a flawed western tradition that implicitly encourages socialist sentiments, I agree with you on the whole but how do we deal with that problem,?

t. Patrician

It's not jews in general but oil and Israeli interests in particular, so money and AIPAC.

I will have even better recent history, without lies, to be proud of.

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You have nothing to be proud of if you cannot protect your own offspring's future.
Whatever you feel proud about will be long forgotten while history will continue to be written in blood. With or without you.

Ben Hur 2016 has a good chariot race.

wrong answer.

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What a convincing counterargument.

Imaginary friends aren't real though. Just because a kaballa kike may like to adhere to a contrian(IE Luciferian) imaginary friend, does not mean he is real either way, it just means you are both ruled by primitive beliefs, conjured by some people's old fanfiction, after they did some opiates and hallucinogens.

The difference of a true family-oriented traditionalist from race-oriented collectivism, is that in a family-oriented structure, you have a duty to your family to be successful, while in race-oriented collectivism, just shitposting on the internet to 'defend the white race' is enough.

What did you say, Schlomo?

why not both? family and race go hand in hand as long as you aren't race-mixing

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It seems like most of you forgot the first part.

it's true from a nietzschean perspective, christian universalism is as stupid as socialism

I didn't, I said both.

Good and Evil has no objective basis, and is a subjective belief system used to control and limit your thoughts based on laws made by literal kikes. Negativity and Positivity are concepts that can be demonstrated to exist on a somewhat objective basis, but moral good and moral evil did not exist until as it does now until the arrival of the Jewish faith.

Do it.

No counter. Imaginary friends just keep you scared and easily manipulation. Santa was not delivering presents to you either, BTW.

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I agree. That's the reason why I said relatively. I still have more trust in tradition than in total new ideas. Christianity is vulnerable and has some defeatist bullshit.

Without the Old Testament (and new test apostles like Paul and such) christianity wouldn't have taken a single country. Also sane men in positions of authority kept us going.

During the reign of Louis XIV we almost could touch a new religion: the Royal Cult. That's how it should be: King is the absolute god, the religious cult is the constitution, then some other cut-off caste would serve as priesthood/constitutional court.

Is the one person arguing with himself in this thread some sort of omega-type autist

I agree with all of that except monarchism. Humans are wayyy too flawed especially when you speak of hereditary succession. We'd just repeat the Enlightenment all over again. The problem is that they answer doesn't exist yet. Monarchists and LARPagans are both wrong. I do admire strong figure-heads from time to time, but I think the answer is in space colonization and making human beings into superhumans through creative thinking (anti-socialist thinking) eugenics, and constant exploration and experimentation.

based on that jpeg I assume you're trying to discount the fact that you're out of the discussion

What discussion

Any aspects of reality or circumstantial elements that impedes that which is generative.
Eating food is good for you, but eating too much is negative, as becoming a fat cow impedes your ability to live and function and perform goals that you had set for yourself.

Anything that promotes, enables, or is a direct outcome of processes that will enable you to continue to pursue your goals and attain your needs.
Physical fitness is generally good for me, it will allow me to attract a better mate and perform my duties in life. But if I became a roid monkey that spends all of his time sculpting his body rather than securing resources that will allow me to propagate myself, or help those I have a vested interest in, than such physical fitness is a negative thing. Not evil, not good, but negative and positive based entirely on circumstances.


If humans are flawed, then what would be their perfection? This to me seems to be a very vague statement that's entirely absent of meaning and doesn't denote anything other than as a segway to allow you to make other statements.

exactly

Write it down

Royal cults are pretty cool tbh, but you'd still need the framework of Christianity around it. The greatest empires always had godkings.

I don't know, nobody knows. The problem is that no one has the answer but I'll admit that the vast majority presented have glaring flaws. Monarchism is just another copout to me. I'm not trying to be vague it's just that clarity is impossible when honestly talking about the future, no one has a crystal ball. Space colonization and creative thinking, a rejection of equality and god. That's all I've got so far. The left wing will die and the right will struggle with it's christian past. Nationalism isn't bad but it's just not the end all be all, people should love their traditions and celebrate their past, just not blindly. I celebrate Christmas but I don't believe in god. I want non-whites exterminated but I don't have total faith in whites or anything. Hell, after non-whites will die there will be another competition between all the ethnicities within Europeans (celtic/germanic/slavic). Shit just goes on.

It's ironic how Napoleon understood that even though he was on the side of the people who beheaded the last king.

All he did was say an ad hominem.
This is the concept of "BTFO" that niggers use in rap songs.

FUARRRRRKKKKK YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

hahaha
i almost bailed 3 times on this talk, but it was worth it when joe finally burst his bubble and told him that he's acting exactly like the people he's belittled in all his previous points. Joe wanted him to shut up about internet feminists so bad but, he just couldnt stop.

makes you realize just how common and basic he is,all it takes is an european voice and a good mic, and you can clean up by using big words and riding the fence like a champ.

Isn't the family oriented traditionalism the basic cell of the ethnostate? Defending your race is in fact defending your family.


Enlightenment was done by the lack of forsight of the rulers (including religious authority), true, but the plebs were its weapons. Thus giving power to the plebs is even worse. I'd say lesson learned.

Hereditary succession is better for several reasons, out of which:
1. People inherit genes and craft (that is perfected with each generation) from the elders.
2. A King is king in his country. Outside of it he is a nobody, thus WILL to have strong country.

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That's because perfection is an ideal, something that people strive for, but not ultimately real. It's an important ideal to have, as it promotes improvement for the sake of improvement, but it must also be weighed with pragmatism as it is ultimately unatainable, unless your ideal of perfection is very rudimentary, like for example if having a wife that won't cheat on you and is frugal is your ideal of a perfect wife, than that is actually very attainable. Difficult, sure but not impossible.
My main point is that, what we think about things doesn't matter unless we actually have actions that correspond with those thoughts in some way. I'm actually much more optimistic about the future of the white race, but there's a caveat, we must lose everything first. All of civilization must be destroyed. The only reason there are so many non-whites in the world is because of the achievements of european and Asian civilizations and propped them up allowed them to flourish. Our "Progress" is literally killing us, and trying to get into space will very likely not save us. As the amount of technological progression required to get there will also enable non-whites to spread to whatever new home we find. And if we by then had societies strict enough to disallow that, then we wouldn't even need space travel because we'd be racially aware enough to not need to escape.

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Patricians can fuck up too. And often kings turn into bratty degenerates when they aren't required to serve (let alone lead in battle) their millitary. Kings are okay when they are elected rather than hereditary because the son is never a good guarantee and virtue is not entirely hereditary. Fuck democracy and monarchy. I'm pro-aristocracy, rule of the best, not oligarchy (rule of the rich or rule of the jews).
Oh I agree. I'm not banking on it I assume that extermination of non-whites will be either a prerequisite or happen in tandem.
I don't see space as an escape, just the next step in the evolution of the human (I mean white people only) race. Exponential population growth will demand it eventually but we should want it simply because of our inherent desire to explore. Think of the vikings, it's in our blood to find new horizons and to find even more terrifying enemies. The day of the rope ought to signal the beginning of our desire to improve ourselves, space exploration is just another part of that.

Oh I agree. I'm not banking on it I assume that extermination of non-whites will be either a prerequisite or happen in tandem.


I don't see space as an escape, just the next step in the evolution of the human (I mean white people only) race. Exponential population growth will demand it eventually but we should want it simply because of our inherent desire to explore. Think of the vikings, it's in our blood to find new horizons and to find even more terrifying enemies. The day of the rope ought to signal the beginning of our desire to improve ourselves, space exploration is just another part of that.

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The thing is I want the royal cult as its own religion. Egyptians had it, the chinks had it, the japanese still have Shinto, but in Europe after christianity took over the closest we've been through Emperor Constantine, King Louis XIV (especially these two), Emperor Nicholas I and Emperor Willhelm II. Never broke completely as its own thing.

What happens when you have a King George III who refuses to lead his men into battle and eventually goes literally insane? Hereditary succession is flawed, kings must be elected by aristocrats if they are to exist at all.

It is certainly in our blood to satisfy the curiosity that compels us. But I personally do not see any future in space. The more I've studied the subject and the per-requisites for survival, I think in its current state, its a pipe dream used to lure people into mindlessly ignoring their own condition on earth in exchange for a future in space.
We cannot survive off-world as a species, as the nature of space poses many malignant threats that our natural environment had made impossible. We'd need to locate a planet that can be terraformed or can already support life, and doesn't already have life on it. And for undertaking that endeavor to have a sufficient risk/reward ratio. Low gravity is hell on earth-borne organisms, so if we stay in space too long then we can probably never return to a worldly existence. We'd have to make new humans on the surface somehow. And they'd probably be modified for their new environment, which will undoubtedly be harsher than Earth as there'd be no readily available core resources like food. They'd be technologically dependent for thousands of years until the planet had sufficiently been altered to support eco-system cycles of flora and fauna.

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This thot needs a man who would marry her?

Indeed, they need to be martial in spirit. If they aren't anymore they are on the path towards uselessness
Norse mythology with two families of gods is more like romanticized real history, with the military gods (tribe), taking over the agricultural ones and basically forming norse panthenon. Lesson in the basics of state. If Nobles aren't of the sword and not martial anymore, that lesson is wasted.

Election is more flawed as there are conflicting interests.

Aristocrats are just one step away from the merchants that currently rule.

Sorry to butt in your debate about "perfection", but have to say it isn't and ideal as it is "freedom", "equality" and such. More like striving towards perfection is a biological imperative of all living things. An evolved consequence of the need for selfpreservation/autoconservation.

True, but Sargon's retarded and smug response proved it to be completely true. Dicky gets an assist to Sargon's auto-BTFO

Like I said, I'm not talking about escapism but progress in tandem with extermination of non-whites. Consider the concept of lebensraum, that's what I'm thinking of. I see it as an inevitability that must be faced (the sun will become a red giant and populations grow past their ability to provide for themselves.)
Radiation is the only major threat to present-day considerations, and I don't think it's impossible to overcome. Underground shelters are a present proposal that I find attractive. What do you think about that? White people become the fucking molemen on mars? kek
That would be the basis for the future of genetic mutations in white people. We will become superhuman through these conditions, assuming we can. I really enjoyed this post.

Agreed. Militarism is a necessity that fights decay, it creates in us self-mastery.

Again, what about King George III? He wasn't elected, he was born into his station. How do you deal with that? Elections become necessary only because hereditary succession isn't perfect.

That's the difference between aristocracy and oligarchy, Aristotle writes about this in his Politics. Rule of the rich is not aristocracy, that's just degenerated and corrupted aristocracy, which happens to kings and the mob as well. The problem there is money, not aristocracy.

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Spencer is the textbook definition of a MUH pr faggot. The only way he is making himself look good is by comparing himself to Sargon and even then half the video is apologetic as fuck, i.e. native americans have an amazing history, we should leave them alone blahblahblah. I fucking hate him even more for claiming to be some representative.

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Ah, yes, the man who kicked a man out of a Q&A session for being "Transphobic" by asking whether or not traps are gay, is a conservative. Maybe conservative by Amsterdam standards.

You perfect it as much as you can. You have the royal cult which also serves as the constitution and states what behaviour is imperative for the god king. The royal cult is the spirit, the current king is its embodyment.

This should be enforced by a priesthood caste, a supreme court if you will. Or you can have your aristocracy enforcing it. Still I;m against any election for the king/emperor/ruler. This body should be made as incorruptible as possible and if done, elections wouldn't be such bad decission, but our aim is to FORCE that line of the royal family towards perfection. To force it evolve, both by nature and nurture, A manufactured god.

If we change royal families like socks, this thing is lost.