RTS Thread

Forged Alliance Circlejerk Edition

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When are we playing videogames, Holla Forums?

I beat the warcraft iii RoC campaign, it wasn't hard but I'm proud of sitting through it all in a perverse way

Uh, this is a UEF thread. You don't get to bring friends.

Lot of loyalty for a hired Cybran!

I recently finished a play through of WH40K:DC. Played as the orcs obviously, pretty easy too expand. Sometimes annoying when you encounter invisible units though

Fak I meant Dawn of War:DC

The stealth mechanics in that game were irritating and a bit broken.

Yah jus hat ta make shure yah got those shootas' up quik, or 'ave da general unit spot em for yah. Orks is great at geting stuff before da uder puny guys.

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Not just stealth suits, they can make their tanks stealth to. You really need a hero unit, or a listening post to fight tau effectively

WATCH OUT JEWEF

There's at least one every match. I've had some matches where nobody on the enemy team built SMD so I'd build multiple SMLs and play conservatively and then obliterate the entire enemy team in a few seconds. Build your SMD, lads.

Necrons op too.

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The Necrons at full strength are really powerful, they get what are essentially 2 super units with their floating monoliths, and commander unit transformation

Keep ahead, headless men!

Honestly, though I have played Dark Crusade I have not played the other three games. Does anyone have a working torrent? I am most interested in soul storm since it has flying units. I am surprised honestly that none of the games feature the tyrranids. Are they playable in DoW 2?

I would throw it up on mega for you but it'll take three to four days constant uploading. If you find a torrent, post it here.

What's the best way to specifically work on my macro in supcom?

I will probably buy it if I can. I know a game store that still sells physical copies of games, but their selection is usually limited.

AoE2 with Holla Forums when?

There was some Holla Forums anons setting up groups for that a while back. You must have missed them, I still need to find a torrent for that game as well. preferably one that has all the new content and harder A.I. that doesn't have any of the steam bullshit attached

Anyone played it? How is it? Pretend it doesn't have the Homeworld name on it

Spam T1 engineers and just send them to every mex on the map with the assumption that only one in ten will survive.
Select all your mexes, start an upgrade on them all, pause them, and then have some engineers queued up going around and assisting them.

Graphix is decent.

I would consider it a semi decent game if it had actually been released prior to Homeworld 1

Quick summary:
-There is a population cap
-Units gain veterancy
-Two types of resources to gather
-You can pick where the air units sortie
-Story is decent, but short (Clocks in around 5 or 6 hours if you push through it)
-Multiplayer is dead
-Feels very homeworldy, but no more z-axis movement because its not spacceeee
-Retcons lore a bit if I recall correctly.

It's not worth the 49.99$ asking price. I value it roughly around 20 dollarydoos for short campaign and dead multiplayer, and thats stretching it a bit because of nostalgia factor.

Cheers nig, I'll pirate it and wait for a sale

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Soul Storm is cancer.
The special abilities (such as teleporting etc) are tied to teams. The game is seriously unfinished in many ways. The home base missions have so little content and challenge. The flying units are all half arsed and the new teams have too few voice lines and poor animation. It's a really bad game compared to the others.

Tyranid are playable in Dawn of War 2, but go in expecting a sort of hack'n'slash tactical RPG rather than an RTS. There is no base building and the first couple of campaigns is almost entirely hero units, of which you get four of. It's a fun co-op experience but otherwise not very impressive and uses outdated hotkeys (no qwerty).

I never get why they keep trying to revive RTS games by providing us with crap that is barely a quarter as good as shit we were getting over a decade ago? Seems that devs think that they can get away with chopping RTS games up as DLC which funny enough, RTS is the one genre you can't and it's a complete death sentence. You need to release completed games and they have to be at least on par as games we were getting from 2003 for fucks sake.

I do wonder the same.

Do people never look into older games, to see how they are? Or at least bother to make an actual investigation about RTS?

The new developers have all the resources and information of how to do things, but then make their games like they were done by poo in the loos.

because the people making the games have never played the old games and they want to make DLC out of cut content

You know, I noticed that while modern devs most of the time don't risk and just copypaste shit mechanics from other games, RTS devs are trying to bring something new and they don't look at old successful RTS games, it's even worse when the devs are too lazy. Just take that supposed Generals clone which people didn't like because the devs tried to bring something new into the genre. Or you can see SupCom 2 with C&C4, probably the best examples of how new and different mechanic can fuck up everything.

And don't forget another problem, modern devs are incompetent hacks with low skills, no matter who it is, designer or programmer. We live in the era where fans who are doing shit for free are more skilled than paid people. Remember that Bethesda don't want to bother with re-releases of their old games or that Sonic Team can't make physics from old Sonic games? You can see screenshots of upcoming Duke Nukem 3D new episode and your first thought will be "is that some shitty mod?" or you also can play NuDoom and take a look at some secret areas which are maps from the first game, the lighting there is absolute shit, worse than in the original game. They're shit at their job and you shouldn't expect something good from these people.

This was also because it was worse than generals and the game was just a reskin of their original generals clone

It all comes down to greed. When the gaming industry was relatively new, people focused on quality because it was their passion.

Now that the industry is more 'mature' and have such a huge slice of the entertainment profit pie, companies are focused on more on sales. They see a formula that works and they keep churning out the same old shit year after year. They don't understand the human factors that builds a loyal community because that you can't pull hard and fast numbers on brand loyalty per person.

Its not about passion any more, its now all about the best way to extract shekels from the consumer.

and just the previous day i played loki in the same situation on hard without scumming for relics and scouting for them, and i won on the first try

hero spam with loki is OP

well thinking back, the norse are just plain OP
one of the things i did when winning with loki was take over 20 heroes and siege some town centers that used to be owned by the egyptians but got taken by the greeks, then built town centers on those settlements right after destroying each one

no other faction could do that so easily

Is there a difference between Real Time Strategy and Real Time Tactics?

Yes. In short, RTS is about long-term plan, while RTT are about APM and gookclick.

Am I supposed to have 10 t3 escorts for my comm or something ?

That is really sad to hear, I was looking forward to the flying units. Will definitely get them though

Anyone want to play Supcom right now?

I could go for that. Using FaF right?

You two faggots still up for it?

Of course

Then host a game

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I'm trying to get into the genre with Dune 2000 Gruntmods. any tips that can apply to the genre as a whole?

Fug dis. Already playing Star Ruler with a cute boy.

I'm popping you in the oven, 500°F for 90 minutes.

Fuck your fucciboi get in here, we can do a free for all or some shit.

Bring him and hop in here

I bet you play Aeon you faggot?

And that is why you need map control, and to raid.
My economy was hilariously inefficient

Second game hosted, same name and password

Yeah, I figured there would be pressure but I didn't really think it would come so early.

I could maybe tolerate nuke whining if SMD didn't exist, or you didn't know about it like ten year old me in TA, but if you know it exists, it's inexcusable. Nukes are fucking expensive, become nigh useless once SMD is up, and are easily spotted if you scout. There's nothing cheap about them.

how retarded is the AI?

Is it too late? Did I miss all the fun?

Are there any mods for Ashes of the Singularity that actually makes the game feel well, complete?

Put up another match named QAI Did Nothing Wrong, password is `memes`

Playing Total War Age of Charlemagne with an user right now.

Pretty fun tbh lads, playing as Theme of Sicily aka Byzantines. They are of course, a modded faction as you cannot play as them in vanilla, but user is playing as the Franks and dues vulting the pagans lol

Back to brit/pol/ with you!

I was just shitposting my good friend

I hope you aren't Danish, this might be offensive, considering I made them my sluts

Just read manual and learn by yourself. This is the only best way. Don't forget that there is also skirmish, though it's called practice which you can find in network play.

Too bad people barely play online. The game is underrated.

Anyone want to play Total War? I am lonely

Shogun 2?

Attila

Why not Medieval II?

Not multiplayer, as far as I know

I literally just play shogun 2 for armstrong guns and gatling guns. I should just go play Napoleon or something.

So with Wargaming including Total Annihilation for free with your purchase of their Master of Orion remake, is anyone else suspecting they're priming people for a new Total Annihilation game?

Oh dear fuck no. They'll fuck it up.

Please no. All that Total Annihilation might need is a somewhat modernized client so you no longer have to beat a 20 year old program into submission. And by modernized I don't mean Modernized™ where everything gets slower for no reason, I mean things like hardware rendering and working fullscreen.

What is the best RTS boss faction and why is it Yuri?

is it possible to play Forged Alliance on a modern PC without issues? The game runs like shit, is it running on one core or something?

I got it running no problem on an i7. What's your setup?

Any decent DoW mods?

I have no problem on a Phenom II on win7. What's your hardware?
Also yeah, I think it is monocore.

MY LIFE FOR MASTER YURI

also thank you for using something I made user. I feel all special now

what game?

Ultimate Apocalypse

aeon rulez
let me show you "the way" to the butt doctor
ur tanks r shit ur gunships r shit ur shields r shit
you dont even have a snipper kbot
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how are those t2 ground defenses working out for you ?

what are you gonna do when u cant cheese expansions? did you run from the zerg to ask for help?
"what ever shall we do as they dont pay taxes my life style is threatened. please help cleanse my earths again"
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It's not turtling if it's next to your base, destroying your everything.

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C'mere alium. I will give you something to ayy about.

Sure would suck if someone used the extra 3k mass you would have saved when compared to building that thing for mobile shield gens to absorb a few hits, since that would allow this chicken here to waddle to you and tear you a new anus.

How's that T3 AA that literally can't hit anything treating you?

Reminder that UEF Percivals will beat their mass equivalent in Galactic Colossi, Monkeylords, and Ythothas. And probably Megaliths too if not for the range advantage, though if you have air superiority you could always flank it. Percivals are the UEF's equivalent to direct-fire experimentals; the Fatboy is a siege weapon.

I thought it was 100% accurate
I'm serious, is it not?

It's not homing, and ASF usually aren't flying in a straight line. So it misses a lot, although if you keep your ASF over it, you will be losing them.

It has a muzzle velocity of 100 though, and don't things (normally) only miss if something changes direction? That's a pretty short period to turn in.

ASF are far away, moving fast, and usually already flying a curve rather than a line, eg, constant direction change.

Is there a world building or rts game where I can enslave my enemies? It doesn't feel the same if it's something like building a building that generates slaves. I wanted to use Stellaris for it but it was shit so i thought i'd come here.

You can play as slaving nations in Victoria 2 but you can't really create slave pops where none existed.

Its another 2v2 where your teammate spends the whole game building row of T2 PD in his base episode.
Almost fucking won too.

Anyone up for a FAF game?

Yeah sure hit me up nigga.

Tell me, can the brick be made viable?
I see everyone doing experimental spam or nukes/arty/air at the end of the game but truthfully I despise air with a passion.

Can T3 land be a viable strat ? Is the brick worth it ?

Are you retarded? Bricks are great.

So is anyone else in or is it just us two?

I never see cybrans make them in multi. It's always monkeylords.

I'm pretty sure Firestorm over Kaurava uses Soulstorm as a base these days, so it's worth having. Especially when it goes for $2 on sale.

Arty was a mistake, tactical missiles were a bigger one. Land units are the most fun.

Where's the game my man?

Anyone else? I'll do an automatch, and if there's at least 3 counting me I will set up a lobby when I finish.

If you're UEF, yeah. Sometimes in the longer Seton's games I'll break the stalemate by setting up a long rally path and just spamming Percivals.

Damn I had better eco for once
Lately I have just been rushing T2 ACU, walking to their base, and building T2 PD. I won the other day with like 2/3rds his eco.

Also how the FUCK do I screenshot the results screen?

This guy has got it in one. DoK is a decent game for sure, but it has its flaws, mainly the short campaign and crappy AI.


Very… but I think they've fixed parts of it in updates.

nice hat stand. was that thing made out of the legos that ur big bro didnt use? salvador dali/10

Who Elite Mod here?

Retribution gives the option to use grid hotkeys.

What does Elite Mod add?

Primarily it adds new units (including an entirely new faction), makes balance changes and fixes bugs that Relic neglected to take care of (no more retarded IG Heavy Weapon Squads abandoning their gunner to stand in front of enemies you've manually targeted). Also adds some neat cosmetics and custom maps.

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oh boy

Kill me.

i just dont feel like getting upset until i try it out for myself

I miss supcom's old UI. It was so charming.

Tfw someone tries to mercy snipe you and T2 finishes halfway through the volleys landing and you survive with a tiny little bit of HP left.

bump

Did you see the lascannons user?

I won another 1v1 on FAF with an inferior economy by rushing and aggressively using T2 PD.
I am beginning to wonder if my enemies are just that bad (I am like 800 rank), or if this is OP.

T2 PD pushes are incredibly strong. And if your opponents don't see you giving slack while upgrading T2 on ACU and punish you for it, they get their just desserts.

Who wants to play some DTA? Bout to get some games going

It looks like it has all of the worst elements of DoW 2 but more so

I know it's been 4 hours but, there's absolutely fuck no one in the DTA cncnet lobby.

No
Its not the usual "meak german tanks historically OP xD" type of mod.
Unlike spamfests like DoW1 mods were they actually want you to play this one in MP.

Total War Attila Age of Charlemagne DLC

It looks like the worst parts of DoW1 to me

Out of all the flaws you listed this is probably the most legitimate one
They did it so much better on CoH, although if anything, i would prefer to be able to move the units individually

I blame RTTs for this

Who cares? We got a perfect game out of it.

You know, drawn out pitched battles is something I can't think of anything but supcom/TA doing. Does anything else have battles with constant reinforcement, jockeying for position, and no stationary direct fire units?

The C&C games had some pitched out battles sometimes, but then there are so many ways to win that they didnt happen as often as they should
Also they're all stationary

I kinda wanted to see more about Tiberium. A shame the shekellords killed it.

Games only die when you stop playing them. Multiplayer still works, single player still works.

scratched this up for you

Rev up those cataphracts
AoE2 in 20 minutes

Room name is Fay Gits.

Fug.
Anyway, thanks for all that came along.

Thanks, fam. That made me laugh like a maniac for minutes.

On another note, how do I beat fucking Aeon's Auroras as a Seraphim? Do I just spam artillery?

Is this why we don't get many WW2 games with a large amount of diversity in factions and equipment now?

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Auroras are pretty spoopy. You just got to out position them, arty can work if your enemy has ass micro but your tanks also do very well if you can get them somewhere the aeon can't kite, remember that pathfinding for floating units is a huge meme so if you attack from two directions and them to move around a lot they'll have trouble actually shooting. And backing them near any rugged landscape will probably cause them to bog for a moment and let you get in range. You don't have to back them all the way into a perfect corner, just get them near a wall or force them to change direction.

TL;DR Don't fight them on an open plain. Arty works if they're bad.

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Just a reminder that the Restorer is the best anti air unit in the game

its a shame they dont get fighter-bombers

T2 aeon fighters are the reason aeon is by far the best faction for air.

I've fucking had it with the BS in TW games
Their games are fuckin broken, don't know why I put up with this shit for as long as I have.

Has anyone got the latest version of this?

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

STOP

I'm disappointed in all of you.

What is a RTS game I can pirate and play over my LAN with a friend against AI?

Depends if you want to sit on my lap in a dress and pretend to be a girl while you play vidya games or not.

top tier taste user

Sure if you don't have bony thighs

Red Alert 2, or OpenRA if you're a freetard. Warzone 2100 as well. I mean, really, most RTSs allow for this kind of thing if they allow networking.

Speaking of stronghold crusader anyone have any tips? I recently started playing it, and while I am managing I am having some trouble. Also why are fucking lions so damn powerful?

Oh my god JCDecaux, a bomb!

Top meme there m80

Any mods that make Ashes of the Singularity not dull?

Does Cossacks 3 look decent?

Nobody knows.

I just realized I never played Emperor: Battle for Dune. I remember how sad I was that my computer couldn't run it when it came out, but it was years before I got a better machine and by then I completely forgot about it.

What's the general opinion of the game over here? Worth a playthrough?

Interesting but flawed game. Too many "spam this unit and win" situations.
Soundtrack is GOAT and the live action cutscenes are extra ham.

Yes. It's not amazing but it's got a lot of charm and the diversity between the factions is one of it's strong points.

You'll know soon, it comes out on the 20th of this month.

hopefully we can have at least one "ok" RTS this year

That soon? Fuck me I thought this month was going to be a drag, to be honest I'd have preferred an American conquest remake but this is a good start.

Thing is it comes in a a bit over a week from now an we haven't seen any real gameplay, there was also supposed to be a beta but it got "next week"ed for half a year and now they are releasing it without it at all. i'm not bothered that much by the delays since it's kinda what happens them but by the possibility that the game might be shit.

I can already see it having Attila levels of dlc

Yeah, i'm kinda disappointed because i was under the impression that the additional 6 (i think it was) nations post-release were supposed to be free patch, but now aparently it's going to be DLC and a pre-order/early adopter bonus. Combined with Steam only release, the whole thing stinks of "modern gaming".

when i played orcs in dow, i always rolled with 2 squads of lootas, with attached warboss and big mech. when the heroes are upgraded, it makes the squads nigh unkillable, with pretty good dps, so long as you don't face a bunch of aoe stun weapons.

So I got Emperor: Battle for Dune working in WINE, now who do I play as? Are the Atreides the middle ground again, like in Dune 2000?

I went and re read the steam page and it says
That leads me to believe that they'll still be free and the dlc is just some stuff for single player. Since that passage is included under the paragraph for the extra sheckels edition, maybe not.


Harkonnen, make the baron proud.

Eh, can't say I like the Harkonnen, but alright. Btw, are the campaigns sufficiently different to warrant playing all three?

I haven't played battle for dune, only dune 2000

It looks like that mech is taking a selfie.

O shid it's time to man the towers lads

Every time I see these charts PA is always above SupCom2 when they should be reversed. SupCom2 may be shit but PA is worse, even PA:Titans is worse than it.


They actually fixed that in a patch around the Necron Lord release, the joke is that it was added in an update around 2012 and stayed in the game for like 4 years.


Necrons are only good against AI or low tier players, any mid to high tier player can destroy a Necron player.


It's just like Dune 2000
Harkonnen are slow but strong
Atreides are the middle ground
Ordos are faster but weaker
Tleilaxu are shit and useless
Ixians are OP and really help with the hardest mission
The Fremen are good but great when paired with the Ix
The Sardaukar are expensive and not very useful but fun
I honestly can't remember any Spacing Guild units.


From memory (like 10 years ago) there are 3 mission types: randomly generated (attack/defense missions), story missions and the home base missions.

When attacking/defending the levels play out the same for each race. Each race gets their own story missions like Atreides need to go back to Caladan to defend it, Harkonnen go back to Giedi Prime to either start a rebellion or quell one, I can't remember shit about Ordos since they are tacked on.

Each race has their own predetermined home base mission which is obviously different, I say play the game with Atreides and Harkonnen so you can experience most levels.

If you choose to side with blondey instead of fatty you get the hardest (and most fun) mission in the game. Save often and replay the decision (choose to be loyal to fatty then revert save after finishing it and choose blondey and you'll see how drastically different the mission is).

There are 2 game breaking strategies:
Use the Ix projector and start shitting out clones, clones only need to be shot once to die and have a limited lifespan but do full damage. Combine these with Fremen Fedaykin (they have cloaking) and you can wipe out any mission with ease, including Giedi Prime.

If you have your veteran/starting unit as you attack, you start off with extra forces. Thing is the enemies don't start with ANYTHING but buildings. So use your faster units to scout the base while your Kobra/Devastator/Minotaurus catches up. All enemy bases will be wiped before the first reinforcements arrive (except for Harkonnen since the Devastator is slow). This way you can easily win without building anything.>Necrons op too.

Man, even if SMAC is a nearly perfect game it really has no place in a RTS chart. Whoever added TBS fucked up.

I tried to fix it in paint.

jaysus christ standardize your fucking icon size holy fuck

user this image is years old. It'd be easier to start from scratch than to do that.

Now a less retarded looking starting position.

This is defilement of the old RTS chart
It all started when that faggot put in the autism corner and tech demo

why do you even still call it that?

I remember lurking that thread actually. I removed the entirely useless one-game 'Still Born' category which also showed up then.

Well it was, at one time, an rts chart and I've just replaced it with every new version I've found.

Fucking Megaliths I swear these are the slowest motherfuckers in the game.

Whatever happened to Warshift?

These are some pretty picky win conditions.

Act of Aggression is on sale. Should I continue to ignore it?

Why do people do this? I moved to FAF just because I was sick of every steam game being 2x resources, no air, no nukes. Turns out it's here too.

Same reason why people want to nerf any tactics that won't turn games into simple line battles determined by who has the biggest stick.

fox only, no rush 20 mins, $$BGH$$

so yes

Dubs have spoken.

This thread needs some webms

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Anyone play Shockwave?

I do.
Tank + Laser general master race.

What would a death metal rts look like?

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Never again.

Is this chart accurate?
Forgive the highly plebeian taste on display, I wanted to stick with things I felt comfortable about judging.

Put TA a bit on parrarel with SupCom in the vertical/cripplecore side of things and it'll be accurate.

I still never checked the Supreme Commander series, what's wrong with the 2nd one?

Dumbed down casualized game with a retarded weeb storyline and art style. It doesn't feel like Supreme Commander at all if it wasn't named Supreme Commander it wouldn't have gotten as much hate, it just happened to kill off a great franchise

That game has so much soul and charm that they forgot to put effort into the gameplay. A god damn shame.

I always found SupCom to be more relaxing to play all out than TA, but I may be wrong.

I wish I could put star ruler on here, just so I could add another three pages below Total War for it.

The community patch adds a megamap and mass building (not done by dragging but Shift-X). I think it also adds a keybind that selects the next inactive con, but that might just be an Escalation thing.

I want to add dominions 4 and star ruler but I can't think of any catchy meme phrases for them.

Resource spots in TA are easy to navigate because most (good) maps account for the game's lack of features and there's also the fact that Metal Worlds exist, like Core Prime where metal spot placement is unneccesair. You're right on everything else though, except click 'n drag building and zoom because of Escalation and other community patches/mods, plus the game has an in-built hotkey for switching between inactive workers but it's not the same for factories.

I would say that lumping all the C&C games together on that chart is rather shortsighted since everyone up to generals is more macro and then the series gets micro

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Nigger I love that game but it's a TBS get the fuck out of here.

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They're Not awful games user, They're no where near on the same level as C&C4 or Supcom2
COH2 was more of an RTT and therefore always a disappointment, AOE3 tried some new things (which tbh this industry really fucking needs), although they shouldn't have tried it on a sequel of one of the more beloved gookclick RTS out there

Its just a shit game fam, no where near shadow realm material
If we had to put every RTS on this list, the shadow realm would take up half the space
The shadow Realm is generally a place for games that (not)literally killed their franchise/company, Games that literally raped the genre and people who bought the game


user, aoe2 was pretty fucking gook clickety, as in the actions per minute (apm) were pretty fucking high
I dont even want to remember the amount of times i had to micromanage every fucking unit to escape fucking catapult fire, or having to select the convert button on priests for every fucking priest instead of adding a fucking autocast to the game in the shitty HD edition, I'm never going to get over them turning the fucking food into grain, the fucking cunts
I've seen how the "elites" play and its pretty fucking atrociously similiar to SC2
Also starcraft 2 should be just slightly above starcraft 1, not the over way round
Hell Starcraft 2 should be right near the top and should be placed above RA2, they've got pretty similiar Macro/Micro levels

Also can someone put warlords battlecry 3 slightly under red alert 2?

The thing abut the necrons is that you have t rush them. If you let them build up you are done for. Massproduce the cheapest units you can field with the biggest amount of stunning weapons (like the Imperial guarsmen with grenade launchers) and fuck their base up as quickly as possible.

user the necrons are so fucking slow that you can take up more than half the map before they've even got their fourth requisition point
At that point you can easily overwhelm them
Although yes, rushing them in the beginning nearly always wins you a 1v1 match becasue they're so fucking pathetic
Really its in the 8 players FFAs where a necron can truly shine, With all of their enemies competing they can slowly creep along the map cementing their positions
Really the only way for a necron to become outstanding is to have multiple other parties also fighting to prevent them from focusing on the necrons as well as gaining significantly more requisition points then the necrons

It's tricky to say because TA feels like an overall slower game, and its economy is more abstract and harder to manage, but the interface is pretty shit compared to SupCom. They definitely need to be much closer together in any case.


I think C&C games all fit on the left side. You've only got a few harvesters at a time, they only need a little babysitting at most, and your capacity to econ without getting punished horribly is based on your engagements. Generals is just more left than the others. haven't played C&C3


I agree with most of that. When SC2 came out it was closer to the middle and it's shifted more towards micro and APM with the expansions. I still think SC1 is gookier than SC2 despite that (and SC2's awful hatchery/warp/chrono attentionsink shit) just because unit control is far harder and blobbing up is ineffective.
Would Warlords go somewhere like here?

yeah thats the spot

What makes something gookclick?

Also, why do no "professional" RTS players use a keyboard with a trackpoint? Wouldn't the ability to have twice as many hotkeys and never have to remove a hand from the keyboard to move be advantageous?

Do you mean macro in the "game plays itself" sense or something?

Go back to school, sempai.

We had same discussion in "yet another new arena shootan: dead on arrival edition".

Gaming is dead

We could cut and paste that response for pretty much any genre couldn't we?

Why isn't DoW II in purgatory?

It was always meant to just be an RTS chart in the first place. Bringing in EVERYTHING strategy and tactics just muddies and overcomplicates the entire chart, making inpenetrable for "newbies" and defeating the entire purpose for its existence.

I men honestly why should someone looking to get into 4X and TBT start with RA2 of all things?

Bump

"I want to command things from a position of strategic responsibility" is the starting point.
I like what the chart is trying to do. I don't know if it needs to be a separate thing, maybe you're right, maybe this chart should have the fat cut and should just be a strict RTS chart starting from red alert 2, but then what good would that be? Everyone already knows about CnC and all its clones. A chart that would actually be useful, is one which shows all the core strategy games, all the fringe strategy games, and everything in between, as well as the relationships that they have so you can take one game with strategy elements, and find similar games. "I like game X, what kind of games are there that evolve from this which I can explore?"

I don't remember this game being so easy.

I think we should wait for DoW3 to come out before we make judgement
also its an RTT, so of course its going to be terrible


Which version are you playing?

Not a clue. Pirated it many years ago and never checked the version number. Haven't played anything other than the copy I have now so I think it might be me being generally better at games than I was x years ago that's making me think it's suddenly easy.
The AI might be a bit broken in this version though. Webm related. While I was storming the enemy base their ACU was just twitching and not attacking or building anything.

So this shit comes out in 3 days, and the slavs haven't really said anything about it. Any chance it turns out alright? I hope so and will pirate it to see if it works on my toaster

So whatever happened to the Warbros Wargame Fags?

The same thing that happened to the Warbros Warframe fags


Be prepared for Attila levels of dlc user
Its not absolute, but something funny is going down

fug.

I just got time to play with those wonderful faggots.

Is there an infograph or something with a list of good RTS'? Or any recommendations in general?

I've played C&C3/Warcraft1/2/3 (and xpacts), SC1/2, DoW 1/2.

Well that's one way to free willy.

FUCCCCCCCCK

You asking for the God-Great-Good-Gook-Garbage Tier chart? I'll dig around for it though hopefully someone else has it, my folders are a mess

Shhh. There, user, there. All of us get our favourite games jewed. I'm still salty over what they did to Anno.

Anyone got the pics of Crusader Kings II where you can blame everything on the Jews and expel them?

It was really long ago when I played lords of magic.
Was I too young to judge or was the game as good as I remember?

ded genre
ded thred

Truly there is only suffering in this world

Why the fuck would you do that to yourself? Get fa, get faf, then install Sorian AI for the best AI in all of rts gaming. It´s 10 bucks or something ffs.

Well then, if rumours are to be believed Cossacks 3 has a rough start. Basically, it's Cossacks 1 remade in pseudo-3D, even the old bugs are still there.

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Fuck you Hex5 god I hate you so much

17 in my shit-tier country.
Besides I'm not going to buy a dead game from dying devs if there's no one to play with. I don't have any friends that play vidya.


Ivana a cute.

I honestly thought there would be more pics of her by drawfags.