So, Fallout Nuka World has released to mixed reviews. Seems even the normalfags hate the dlc...

So, Fallout Nuka World has released to mixed reviews. Seems even the normalfags hate the dlc. On top of the weak ending for the nuka cola leader, the dlc itself is railroaded into one path or you complete it in less than an hour and kill all the raiders. It also shows a lack of understanding not only their core audience but the majority of their audience as well, since the last dlc clashes horribly with the protagonist personality they forced on you.

So anons, think Bethesda will finally learn their lesson, or is this just the beginning of the end for the Toddler?

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This is just the beginning, Mr. Howard is going to go down in gaming history.

I think its the perfect end to the saga that is Fallout 4. A huge ring of disappointment from start to finish with nothing of redeeming value, something even FO3 and even Skyrim managed to do somewhat with DLC. It has officially disappointed on every single front imaginable.

I genuinely think that skyrim dragonborn is a good DLC that not only has challenging dungeons but a great plot that builds on the established lore from previous games

todd will just hype up his next big release and everyone will forget this even existed.

At least he'll make it big in the boytoy industry if nothing else.


It really has. Not sure what bethesda was thinking adding in so many contradictory elements into the game. Youd think after 30 years they'd know not to fuck with their open world, the avatar is an expansion of the player experience.

This is unfortunately probably gonna be true. Because normalfags never learn their fucking lesson.

I'm replaying skyrim because I now have a PC that can handle the visual mods that make it not look like puke. The game is just as shallow and devoid of RPG choices as Fallout 4, yet for some reason nobody from the mainstream had a problem with it. With FO4 everyone points out how "there are only 4 dialogue options!". In Skyrim, most of the time you have one option, and the same plebs who are now hating on FO4, are calling it the best RPG ever. Not saying FO4 is good, just pointing out hypocrisy

Probably because Bethesda has a skill for outdoing themselves each time as they make their games shittier and shittier.

Doesn't matter, once FO4 porn and sex mods finally take off the game will be saved.

Instead of settlements you'll be able to build sex dungeons and make your sex slaves fuck mutated creatures and give birth to monster girls.

It's cause of the silent protagonist and the lack of urgency in the game. Bethesdas biggest mistake was attaching a voiced protagonist with a personality to their game. The only thing they had going for them was the avatar is the player experience. Also, skyrim doesnt entirely trivialize your agency, like you can kill most everyone, unlike Fallout, and you can actually be a villain by choosing evil options during some quests.

the game is poorly optimized as it is, mods are only going to make it worse

At least with TESV you got to see entire sentences.

Well what could we expect from Hodd Toward ?

After New Vegas I was HOPING they could learn.

But no.

Seriously.

No you can't.

Last I heard fallout 4 has newer animations and a much more restrictive modding kit. On top of that to alter or make new animations you need software that doesnt have a student license, that the original app they used had, which was free if you didnt commercialize your product. Fallout4 is much much more restrictive overall, is what im getting at. And it doenst help you have the xbox community screaming at modders and stealing their mods if they dont port them to xbox.


Yes, you can kill "most" people. Not all, like some main quest people, but most can die. Unlike fallout 4, where anyone named is immortal.

The worst part is they have avellone contracted to them and have him working on prey. They could have used him. He's sure as hell better than whoever they have writing for them now.

Perhaps in Skyrim standards it's good, but not really good compared to other actually good DLCs imo

What did you like about it? I played it a while ago, don't remember it well. It was that DLC about that other Dragonborn who was hundreds of years old, right?

You mean like any quest people. The only people you can kill are nameless grunts and NPCs that have either a minor errand boy miscellaneous attached to them or no quest at all.

Look at this shit: uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Essential_NPCs

Also, you can take your obnoxious attention whore images and shove them up your ass

isn't there supposed to be a new fallout game in the works?

Is it going to be made by obsidian?

Bah.

At this point I only come to these threads to get mad about Todd Howard and watch those webms about Fallout 4.

There's roughly as many essential NPC in Oblivion as well.

Restrictive and there is nothing really there to mod. Go look at Loverslab, there is a lot of talk but nothing really happening. Maybe give it a year or more and something might come of it. Thinking it's going to be like skyrim is wrong tbh.

I remember killing my fair share of people in Oblivion randomly.

And I remember actually failing quests in Oblivion because I killed people.

Can't mess with the main quest I think. Which is good because Oblivion portals everywhere kinda piss me off.

There are plenty of people with quests who can die, which fails the quest, or have no quest at all. Its still a minority within the amount of npcs in the game. Also no bully.

From what i've gathered from there a while back, is that until all the dlcs come out they couldnt really try as bethesda keeps patching the game, halting progress. I dont know if thats true or not though, as i can barely remember when skyrim was out and cant relate if they had any amount of complex mods compared to fallout 4 at this point,

miraaks the first dragonborn, he was established in the books talking about atmora and the dragon cult.

the dlc adds a lot of the stuff from morrowind that people liked and the writing was significantly better than the base games. Neloths quests were pretty amusing for me and his dialogue was great because it helps you understand what morrowind was like after the nectarine left. The new details about the skaal was helpful since the spirits really didn't get much explanation in bloodmoon. I spent a shitload of hours playing bloodmoon so seeing the same map with a completely new environment was a treat especially since many of the same locations remained intact like the crashed airship and thirsk meadhall. The fact that it explains the reclamations was nice, it was hard to figure out what they were going for just based on the red year books.

I liked that it actually offered some challenge to the game, there were difficult enemies and the new dungeons can be really hard to get through. The dwemer arena was cool, but the visage of mzluft left a bit to be desired. I thought apocythra was a neat place to look through, it did a decent job characterizing hermaus mora since the lore books didn't help a ton in that department.

I play TES games primarily for the lore so dragonborn scratched an itch. When I play the games it feels like i'm jumping into a book I enjoyed reading.

and that's why ESO pissed me off so much since it contradicts 90 percent of the lore from the previous games.

Fallout maine or something. And last I heard it was just a ruse made to fuck with people wanting another developer to make another fallout game.


Neloth and hermaeous mora were the best parts of that dlc

Well that's too bad I guess, my favorite part of Fo3 were the DLCs because they wer actually interesting self contained stories

I was hoping the same would happen with this

Neloth is honestly one of the few characters in Skyrim I consider "well made".

Dont forget even fallout 3 was crap with the DLCs.
It took a whole other company to build a good game from the engine with New Vegas.

New vegas was released 2 years after FO3. So using that same metric they might release a proper fallout game based on this engine by 2017.

What's the point though? Skyrim already has an established sex mod community, what would they gain from moving to FO4?

Settlement building in FO4 is complete shit, I wouldn't be surprised if modders have already done it better in Skyrim.

Triggered me even harder than the Failout DLC.

I enjoyed the fact that his character really didn't change that much from morrowind. 200 years later and he's just as much of an asshole then as he is now.

It seems like it is pretty shit, just like the rest of Fallout 4.

But Steam reviews sometimes can get it wrong.


How can they hate Dead Money.
;_;

I liked that DLC so much.
I know is not for everyone but still.

Only casual scum hate Dead Money.

I liked dead money the best

The problem that most players have with Dead Money is that you're suddenly low on supplies and have to act carefully.

I actually took an interest in Melee thanks to Dead Money. Sneak n' shank.

yeah, more games need to take away power from the player so they play more carefully. but the average normalfag would hate that.

What little talent Bethesda had left from Skyrim must have been driven out by industry upstarts and amateurs. I had little hope for Fallout 4 after their performance with TESO and after this, I even have less faith in ever seeing a worthwhile TES VI or a dignified finale for the TES series.

tl;dr: Everything is shit and it will only get worse.

Open world with wide movement options.
Tiny "maze" corridors with zero options on movement, only good for as said melee.
Yet I've never gone below 3/4 hp during it.

youtube.com/watch?v=OKw_VUuZjCE

oh yeah there was a Fallout 4.

you'll keep buying their shit stupid

i don't see any other developer making fallout games

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On survival it's a bit annoying. Then get project nevada and the dlc is tough.

m8, those titties are awesome

Those tits are gross without a bra bro. Also, she's balding.

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normalfags pls go

there's a ton of post apocalyptic games. The fallout universe itself is shit, the creators don't even follow the lore rules that they came up with.

damn, she really is balding hard holy fuck
Maybe it's a man

The eyes definitely scream mental issues.

sure they do

Even Loverslab is fed up with Fo4, lad. There are like 2 high profile sexmodders who show any interest at all.

He was a much bigger asshole in Morrowind.

"hate" is a strong Holla Forumszation of the general public opinion.

It's worse than Far Harbor but better than Automatron, thus landing in the "meh" zone.

SJW sawyer made some harmless post on his instagramm showing pictures of New Orleans and everybody lost their fucking mind because FALLOUT NEW ORLEANS CONFIRMED.

Implying that even matters because Obsidian is fucking kill.

Dead Money had terrible replay value. Way better than Honest Hearts, which everyone involved admits is unfinished, though.

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Wtf i love this meme

That's a great video game

how they heck can she ever enjoy a real penis again after this

she can't, she'll probably be incontinent by the time she's 35 too

Man, why did bethesda and zenimax have to become so evil?


user. Thai ladyboy


I hated honest heats. It was the only one of NVs DLCs I hated. It just seemed so boring. The only good thing out of it was Joshua.

fuck this is so hot, is there a longer clip?
sage for VIDEOJAMES

dropped

women are horrifying

What it do my nukas

That they are.

i've seen that second one but not the first one, all /k/ stories about women in the army are fucking disgusting

Now we are talking

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I just want the lazy fucks to get on board with OSA and make modules for it.

What I'm really amazed is that nobody has yet made a mod that removes all the story from Skyrim, like that one NV mod, and puts you in the skin of a fantasy viking with the goal of raiding enemy settlements and stealing their women.

yes thank you, found it ( motherless.com/G2553497/AA4C38E )

For fuck's sake, why the hell did I had to read the second story? What kind of STD eats flesh?

I'm glad I jus fucked once.

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I'm not surprised. Fallout 4, after hype began to die down even my normalfag friends began to think it was kinda mediocre.

One of them went as far as to say it was the "Dragon Age 2"(Never played the Dragon Age series) of the recent Fallout games, over simplification in almost all aspects, non-engaging story and made the mistake of making the main character voiced.

Hell, even the modding scene for it seems to be largely uninterested in it.

One thing is for certain, Bethesda is probably not going to learn a damn thing and it's going to spiral down further into shit, which I didn't think was even possible.

isnt it because mod tools are still locked?

this

wew

I don't think that after what they did with FO4 there is actually anything left for them to simply. The gameplay systems are completely gutted, and unless they make a straight FPS for FO5 that's about as far as they can take it.

Even the Toddler had to admit the dialogue system was shit.


No, it's because, as others have said, the modding environment is very restrictive and there is not much you can do.

This, coupled with the general disappointment the game was, has killed most interest in modding the game the community had.

and monster boys

BANNED

>>>/cuteboys/

Dont forget consoles can now get mods, but not make them, which has led to many xbox users harassing modders to port their mods or make mods for them.


Those obviously arent boys. They dont even have penises.

It was released alongside Bethesda.net for usage, since it's the only way to explain that console version of mods have been released.

Nah they can, they could just go the telltale route and make a green good choice, red bad choice and a blue sarcastic choice. Some sections you'll even get to walk.

ESO isn't cannon user, only the lorefags who write the Wikis for clicks think it's canon but it's not.

The answer is to not be retarded about it. My diet has had far more of an impact on my bowel movements than anal ever has. In fact, stretching has never done anything to me in that regard, only leftover lube.

Tfw probably would still tap that shit

I need to stop thinking these wicked thoughts.

gays are also in high-mileage bracket.
and lets not forget bugchasing

Well yeah, gays are usually gigantic slutty faggots. Also bugchasers, while absolutely fucking stupid, is a minority of a minority

I'm kind of mixed on the whole "immortal NPC" thing. On the one hand, I want to be able to kill whoever the fuck I damned well please, and there should be consequences (like failed quests) for killing important NPCs. I mean, you can kill the "God King" Vivec in his own temple in Morrowind upon first meeting him - which fucks the questline all up and forces you to take a back-end route with a nigger-rigged Wraithguard.

On the other hand, now that both NPCs and Enemies can path around with their own little AI sandboxes and fight each other thanks to faction alliances - it gets annoying as fuck to find out that you can't start a quest because the NPC you needed ended up getting gang raped by a bear, troll, and saber-cat simultaneously when you were almost an entire cell away and never noticed. Those stupid fucking dragon and vampire attacks that would kill half a town because even the bums and merchants would grab a nearby stick rush into the fray like Conan the fucking barbarian on PCP.

There's got to be some kind of middle-ground, is all I'm saying. Like, make NPCs immortal unless you're within a certain radius - or "disable" them temporarily, so if an NPC is attacked and "killed" by a bear - they just go home for a few weeks and get bedrest until they heal. Unless you're close enough to actually be able to intervene - then they can die, or if you attack them first, set their essential flag off - or (based on developer discretion) they enter into a dangerous situation as part of a quest line, which then sets their essential flag off.

da fuck?

Skyrim has that falldown at mercy of enemy thing where the enemy will stop attacking them but if theyre hit again will die. Seems to work well for nonessentials. That way when you fight em and down em you can finish them off when normally the enemy might not. The enemy still can finish them off mind you, especially with AOE's or if theyre in big fights, but its a little thing as insurance.

You do realise you're breaking rule 3?

Yeah, there's a lot of sluts. But it's still not industrialized like pornstars are, where comfort is less important that how the sex looks.
The fact is any negative effects of anal are because it was done poorly, not because it was done. There are plenty of people with diseases like Crohn's who still manage to make anal work, because they actually take some care in what they're doing.
Aside from the fact that almost all of it is as much a pure fantasy as hard guro fans, there's straight giftgiving too. There's instances of one person deliberately infecting 40 women.


But let's get back on topic so as not to derail the thread.

Because faggotry like yours should be forbidden

I want to be able to have some level of fun in Fallout 4.
Are there any must-have mods yet? Or overhauls? I remember loving playing New Vegas' Project Nevada.

Pic related.
It's you

hownew.ru

This is a smug thread user. A place to laugh at the toddler and the failures that are fallout 4.

Is the train in Nuka World using this wonderful method of movement as well?

How the fuck do mods work in this piece of shit?
I pirated it a while back because I wanted something "open world" that I haven't already played to death, and the only thing I can find toward enabling mods apparently doesn't work anymore. Is Bethesda that against people having naked titty monsters in their game that they'd take away the option to enable mods?

the only good thing about Fallout 4 is the comic book cover art.

arent we all faggots in h8chan?

You have to fuck around in an .ini file and create a custom .ini file or some shit to get mods to work

no

For that to happen normalfags would have to have the ability of critical thinking and learning from their mistakes.
Never going to happen.
Fallout is dead.

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Yeah, a fallout 4 thread was about to make it so much better.

I'm just saying, that's probably gonna happen

Niggers are bad, but can sometimes be ignored, but a double nigger deserves only the cold embrace of death. You are a double nigger.

It's almost like one is for hetero people and the other is gay faggotry.

People make jokes but that's clever as fuck for their engine.

That's one word for it. The other would be "lazy".

You're right, that's pretty muchthe main point of essential NPCs. Not only can NPCs randomly die because they just wander off into the wrong direction while you're on the other side of the cell, the engine also occasionally spawns NPCs somewhere up in the sky and let them plummet to the ground when you enter a cell.

FTFY

Eh, you work with what you got and they got shit.

Surprisingly enough, not prepping for something to go up your ass will ruin your ass. I'm not against anal but know your shit before trying it.

I got banned once for porn dumping in 1 thread. Not that I cared but the mod also deleted all my posts which included 30 or so in another thread. It was a space general IIRC, it looked pretty silly with a bunch of anons replying to deleted posts

Uh huh, is that why they've been unable to have diagonal movement animations up til skyrim and working ladders til now? Even though other companies that don't have nearly enough money managed to do that?

Your ass isn't meant to take anything up it to begin with. I guess with gays they don't really have any other choice, but it doesn't make sense to me when women do anal.

yes

It's a fetish is all. The rumor that if you ever do anal you'll ruin your ass is wrong though. You just need proper prep and lube. Also nothing bigger than an average turd and not to often I would guess.

But I would imagine the danger is what makes it fun

Gonna dump my cum in your ass gayboy.

No.

Orc grils are the best

Apparently that's not a girl. though you could have fooled me with the shit art.

that's a boy

You're confusing the general idea with Bethesda's shit implementation.

The obvious solution is to not put important NPCs where random critters can kill them, but leave such deaths as part of quest chains, simple player agency or enemy factions triggering if the player is busy being a retard and not doing his job.

Inaction (from the player) should also have consequences.

You mean they broke into the modders' houses and literally stole the hard drives containing the mods, as well as deleting all backups and publicly available copies? That's horrible!

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Why do artists do this? If you want a dick on a feminine body just draw a girl with a dick and a flat chest. That's essentially what the image is anyway.

You know what he meant, retard.

Shadman art is actually good through

Don't fucking start this shit again.

He should learn the fucking language before trying to use it.

It's your fault for being an illiterate nigger.

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I think I finally understand what you fuckers mean when you talk about the decay of western civilization.

I mean yeah, probably.

Words can mean more than one thing.

If you didn't have aspergers you would've learned this by now, so we understand, it's difficult for you guys.

even in normalfag circles, that comparison usually means that they think a game is shit.

Jesus christ, that looks painful.

I just stick to a 4.5 inch dildo, no need to go excessive like that.

That's the CEO of Bad Dragon. I think he feels the need to test the XL version of every design he sells.

A true professional

If it is, he's a dedicated faggot.

Skyrim Dragonborn was what convinced me of Todd's lies before any of the memes.

Just throwing items
Scripted event
Actually just an island

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I liked it because it was nice being somewhere that was somewhat green and habitable

(((pure fantasy)))

Fucking bethesda relying on modders yet again to make a fun game

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BREAKING NEWS: KIKES DESTROY LITERALLY EVERYTHING THEY TOUCH, ON PURPOSE

In other news, water wet.

Roast in hell, kike. Enjoy wearing colostomy bags for the rest of your life.

Don't you get how the mind of a psychopath works, user? If they see someone do better than them, they don't strive to emulate them - they strive to tear them down, and then salt the ground they stood on as retribution for their having ever dared (intentionally or not) to demonstrate that the psychopath isn't perfect.

Please do not lie

Finished it multiple times and dread doing it, spent too much time dead from random collar glitches making it a shitty "save every 5 mins" or enjoy backtracking. Again.
Only worth it for the gamebreaking infinite supplies, assassin suit and solid gold bars which i never spent.


Light Shining In The Darkness. Best. Pistol. Ever.
45 ACP weapons are awesome and another silent pistol is appreciated.
12.7mm DMR
Desert ranger armor

Awesome.

Even better riot armor.
ED-E upgrades are welcome.
The difficulty spike was brutal. I loved it.

Bravo, Bethesda

I finally decided to torrent Fallout 4 yesterday and holy shit consoles raped this game. It took me hours just to get it to look decent and get rid of all the motion blur/DOF bullshit. The guns actually feel good now but Bethesda took a big steaming shit all over pretty much everything else. Skills are gone, everything is governed by SPECIAL and perks now, and most of the perks seem boring as fuck. The dialogue is pointless now. You only get 4 different options and 3 of them are always just saying the same exact thing in different ways. Even fucking Mass Effect had better dialogue than this. I just got out of the vault and I'm already about to quit.

Is the settlement building any good at least? At this point I'm not even interested in doing any quests, I just want to build my own town and shoot things.

Well…

Can mods fix it?

Game's shit, user. I also dropped out about 10 minutes after leaving the vault.

Could mods fix Skyrim after five years?

I haven't paid much attention to the modding scene, seeing as I uninstalled the game a long time ago.
There may be a mod to fix the spawning.
There's a mod to rename settlers, but they still don't feel like people. Given voice acting considerations, I doubt it's possible.
There are technically mods that let you clear out most rubble, but they don't really work because the game renders line-of-sight as though the crap was still there, meaning everything disappears from certain angles.

So what's the writing like in this DLC? How bad is it? I am morbidly curious.

Mods can't do anything but ban you from their forums for saying how much the Settlement mechanic sucks.

You're railroaded into helping a bunch of raiders with no way to decline, or if you do decline they take it as a yes anyway.

nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/11306/?
nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/4772/?

Bethesda tried copying New Vegas and failed miserably(giving the Protag control of a raider gang and the Nuka Cola DLC big secret is that the owner still alive like Mr. House.

Let me guess, it turns out to be absolutely nothing?

Yep, Preston kicks you out of the Minutemen if you get lead a gang

yep, it's just settlers but with Raider gear, they don't even change the base game to accomodate this new "Faction". And since the best insult your character can say it's just a sarcastic yes then the whole raider thing is a mess. Not even worth a pirate to be honest.

DUDE LIKE THE CREATOR OF NUKA COLA IS A HEAD CONNECTED TO COMPUTERS LMAO

Also I forgot to mention

lol

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they show rieklings using spears, they never actually go and say you can use them. Honestly I think the riekling spear arrows were just a joke, a shitty joke but a joke nonetheless.

the dragon riding isn't scripted. You see a dragon anywhere you can shout them down and ride them and you can use them to attack or direct them. You don't have full control but its not exactly a rollercoaster either.

They never said you go to morrowind, they said you go to solstheim. Technically it belongs to morrowind and it looks a lot like the ashlands but you know.

Not really lies bud, it just sounds like you were a victim of hype. I try to say I never get excited for bethesda games but I always end up falling for it even when I know it won't be good.

i pirated it because mod support and the new assault rifle which is pretty nice and totally fucking broken. Its the most OP weapon in the game besides the rocket launcher.

slime boys are only for drinking beer and playing vidya!

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How would Crohn's affect anal?
I actually have that disease and I'm perfectly fine in pretty much any way as long as I don't forget my meds.

How did you faggots manage to derail a thread about a shitty Fallout DLC to discussing anal sex anyway?

because shit comes from the asshole.

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But it sold more copies than w3. Obviously f4 must be amazing game.

gog sales dont count in steamspy duh

Ahah, hell no. He is just a head in a snowglobe unable to do jackshit because he does not have the implants that allow House to connect to his network. Not that he has a network to connect to.

He is just a worthless novelty item since you can't carry him around.

Death To Bethesda

nice ID

Has this become a joke?

yes

lmao you're implying that normalfags will ever learn.

I felt pretty much the same. The game is just so bad and shallow. I got to the Deathclaw fight and just dropped it.

No, it was because Zenimax filed a Int Property Copyright and Patent for Fallout: New Orleans.

Is Obsidian doing a new vegas style game for fallout 4's engine?

So does that mean it's good?

Probably doing a game in New Orleans
see

That's a faulty line of reasoning. Just because they hate something doesn't automatically make it good.

Here's a question for you Holla Forums


honest hearts is my favourite.

I'm not holding my breath but I really hope this is true

So… what is the expansion about again? you go to Nuka World to deal with raiders or what? There is no info about it and know what the hell does it add.

That's probably more or less what's gonna happen. No idea why Obsidian is agreeing to do this again after the shitshow behind New Vegas.

Without Avellone I'm honestly not expecting much, Obsidian is done past this point though, there is no way they are surviving Bethesda's bullshit this time, not that I care, now Beth can have a dedicated second team for Fallout/Skyrim series of video games.

You go to Nuka World because you hears a radio signal coming from there. You go there and tl;dr you kill their leader and now the guy second-in-charge wants you to lead three gangs of raiders. The Disicples, a group of sadists, the Operators, a bunch of Agent 47 types, and the Pack, who are a bunch of juggalos.
To that end, you have to go through 5 locations and secure the areas, doing the most drawn out and tedious quests Bethesda has ever put in their games.
After that, the guy second-in-charge wants you to go the Commonwealth and take control of the settlements there. There is no dialogue that lets the raiders know you're already in charge of those settlements. You can't say No, because Bethesda dialogue means you actually mean Yes.
That's all I know, because at that point I talked to one of the slaves and they let me know that I can just kill everyone and free the slaves, so that's what I did.

Again with this attributing it one guy bullshit.
Just because Chris Avellone is working on it doesn't make it good.

Bethesda eats companies to get resources. People can leave. Besides, Bethesda is shit, will make shit, and deserves to die. Fallout should just die.

Can't you kill them from the very beginning? I just wish the crafting and the settlement building was in a better game that was actually an RPG.

Yeah, you can just go ahead and get the quest from the slave whenever you want and kill everyone.

Collect mines, snipe snipe snipe.


Women in general are fucking disgusting. It's like they have competitions to see who can be the most rancid.


That sounds more of typical leftist behavior.


Modifying causality could.