We are going to have to break our principals to achieve victory

Shut up you stupid faggot and take your shitty kike Hollywood bullshit show with you back the fuck where ever you crawled out of

Can you learn how to spell "principles" soon, user? You've been triggering me in random threads for weeks now.

Exactly!

Those motherfuckers understand this game is for KEEPS.

They may be a bunch of liberal faggots but they are going to win if you don't fight back without reservation.

principles mean nothing

power is everything

You're wrong, but only because the Ubermensch is fettered. The greatest power is about having the right fetters.

Wrong guy.

This is my first time on Holla Forums in months.

Not buying it.

I didn't read your post, fuck you. There can be no victory through concessions. No compromises will be made.

So we turn to marxism to stop marxism? You're thick as fuck son, this is ALL about the moral high ground. Fuck you. If you hadn't noticed they're losing this battle, so you're obviously here to destroy the credibility of the Right. Again. KYS.

Nope.

We are ubermensch. We don't roll like that. Our enemies may speak their minds before they die.

We are Umman Manda. Our Principles are understood only by those on our side - absolutely incomprehensible to those who oppose us.

Ok. Sorry for triggering you anyway.

That's not what I said. You are going to a weird extreme.

I specifically said when it comes to free speech we should not grant it to our enemies.

Or are you ok with racemixing propaganda?

Educate and teach critical thinking skills to the population and you don't need censorship. It has never worked.

I'm an archo-capitalist. I believe in meritocracy. If subhuman ratbreeders want to peddle their idealogy, that's fine, because if we were allowed to pit against them "meritocratically", there wouldn't be one of those cockroaches left breathing. Just like every other fucking time in history. White men excel at war above all else. You propose using the state to crush freedom, which may work for a term, and then what!? You've set legal precedance to crush dissent and/or "hate speech". Great work cunt.

It's a double-edged sword, but you already fucking knew that, shill.

redditors need to be killed

You won't be allowed to compete on merits.
What do you think Affirmative Action and Women In Tech and Diversity Quotas are all about?
Stick to your merits and watch as the cockroaches devour all you hold dear.

Actually they're caught up in their own giant conglomerate echo chamber. All it takes is some smarts and carefully gathering people together and they suddenly go full panic mode then try to shut it down because deep down they no they're on a very thin line. That said I understand what you're trying to say, and frankly you're too caught up on the wrong part. Free speech is the only reason you're even allowed to express your views no matter how much they claim it's hate speech, free speech it is the entire reason you can even have a chance in hell in winning legal battles and people who don't like your views will tolerate you.

The key to winning the culture war is not trying to shut down free speech now, it is to subvert the brainwashing upon the children in public schools and just shutting down universities and subverting their efforts with your own. (Provided you don't do anything stupid while doing it.)

So what you're saying is that we should validate our enemies by trying to silence them?

You do realize that the only thing silencing the opposition does is empower them, right? Why the fuck do you think the Alt-Right exists? Precisely this. Because we were censored for our views.

Censoring the enemy only weakens our positions. The truth shall set you free.

Op, dear. You're a huge retard.

Each time the left censors us we grow slighly bigger. We're going to let them speak, and show themselves as for what they're.

We're not going to reduce ourselves to their behaviour, and continue getting bigger.

No matter how much you scream and squeal you little pinko shit, we will not use your tools. We will not commit the same mistakes you commit so you're somehow validated.

now scram.

No we don't. Only libertarians and neocons do. Regular conservatives also, since constitution of USA is in principle liberal document and they are only concerned with defending that. All those so-called rightwingers should be considered liberals in fact.

Neither are they using free speech. They are using cloistered communities, mainly in universities, press and internet forums like reddit to do that. Those have gate keepers who control who can say what.

Which is to be expected considered American independence was Whig supported left-wing movement.

Yes we are. So is every human who has ever existed. Only upheld law and order where punishment for acting on impulse is immense is keeping us in check.

You are mistaking leftist liberals for the right.

The censorship has barely begun.

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This has never worked either. It's a utopia.
Can be achieved for 10-20% of the population, maximum. The rest needs direction, of some sort; either via bread & circuses or, preferrably, via clear orders (needs a disciplined society).

Nothing has ever worked, so you pick the one where intelligent people prosper the most. Then they can lead the others.

Censorship gives automatic validity to whatever is being censored and especially young people in general go through a contrary phase on this. Censorship is much less effective than just a positive and logical social stigma.

True. It's much more to the detriment of leftist to allow them to have degeneracy parades faster than to censor them for example.

With the former, people will just see them for what they're… with the latter people would think "how dare they, it's not anyone's business!"

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Excellent post.

We already live in a world without principles, see how shit it is. Principles are all that we have.

checking these. OP is a retarded shill

There is only one principle, the survival of whites, everything else is secondary.

Checking back, also forgot

Checked and confirmed. OP is a faggot of course, and maybe a shill.
The only reason we are able to spread the truth to normies is because free-speech is nearly unlimited in the US. So of course, *now* is the time to give up one of our most powerful tools. Uh huh.

This. You can all go back to being principled fuckwads when we've secured the existence of our people and a future for white children.

You do realize that it is the kikes that started the whole free speech thing to get free lease to subvert European empires back in the 18th century, right?

No I don't realize that because it's complete bullshit.

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Those excersing free speech are generally talking easily disproven shit. The problem is not free speech. Its the monopolisation of the means of speaking and debating. These people are easily defeated in debate. The problem is they refuse to debate, and are given free reign by an enemy government to spread their lies unchallenged. What you propose, we can't do, because we aren't in government, the government that is current;ly preventing us from using our free speech to annihilate their weak arguments.

Free speech was never good. It's simply a psyop to get an excuse to subvert, morally and mentally attack a country's population. The kikes hold such considerable power specifically because of free speech, since in a free speech society it's not who has the truth behind who is right, but the one who can shout the loudest.

principles in times of societal decay and general chaos are meaningless
we have but one overriding priciple and that is the 14 words

all that matters in the end is the savory sweetness of the final cake, it matters not how many doughs were discarded via sin of inadequacy or how many eggs were broken to prepare that dough, all will be assayed in the crucible of adversity

or something like that bravado isn't for us, mostly just to rouse the rabble, we at /pol are the intellectual strategist class, not the footsoldier, hence why the partyvan incitement to violence doesn't work here

in the exact case of free speech, it does not exist today, even if by law allowed saying your thoughts get you labelled an ideological heretic and destroyed socially, all within the total bounds of the law
contrast for instances christians saying gays are immoral versus muslim saying anything and watch the reactions ofth establishment

as to censorship doesn't work, this is where the current left status quo fucked up, we will use all of the hiatusses in their laws to fuck them over and when power is taken from them we will silence them good
not by dissallowing them to speak in public but by removing their ability to speak at all, 6 feet under style
for historical reference look at Mao's 100 flowers campaign

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Forcing your opponent to hold up to his own principles is one of the most age-old tactics of subversion out there. It doesn't work when your opponent is completely single minded.

no

shlomo in a nutshell

That depends on your principles. OP is implying that killing people is bad and is making some sort of argument about moral relativity.

No one disagrees with killing kikes. It doesn't go against our principles because killing evil people is okay. What would go against my principles is lying and deceit against my own people, or really against any people. I'm not a kike. I hate kikes because of what they are. I will not become a kike to defeat a kike.

OP is a shill who has attempted to mix the complexity of the moral relativity behind killing with something basic like freedom of speech to try and make it seem as if these things are even remotely in the same caliber. Every single time the left opens their mouth it provides the right with material to mock and ridicule them. Their freedom of speech has been nothing but a benefit to the right over the last few years.

The freedom itself isn't the issue. It's when the people spouting their degenerate propaganda have roots in every single branch of government and media outlet in every single western civilization in the entire world. Get the kikes out of power and they are nothing.

Stop falling for these basic jewish tricks. They are trying to bring us down to their level when there is absolutely zero reason for us to. Freedom of speech is mandatory for the success of white nationalism.

Yep. No talking allowed for liberals after the war. Anybody who says "LGBTQ", "basic income", or "compounding interest" should be shot.

This is what I love. Finally! A revolutionary force where none of the strategists are only doing it because they want to take credit! The path to paradise is written in the book of forgotten leaders.

Actually the Americans won the revolutionary war in the field using the continental line, the faggy version of them taking cover while the British refused is a lefty fags complete lack of understanding of musket tactics. A line will crush a few defenders hiding behind and trees and sweep them away with a charge nor do isolated militia let you hold a city. Line battles are meant to exterminate enemy forces while other times all forces fight from cover or with swords, which is how the Americans when still British crushed the French and Algonquin during the French-Indian War.

This guy. I like him. He gets it.

They can and do, but have you considered this is a fault of a bad interpretation of those principles rather than a problem with the principles themselves? Take for instance honesty. One should be honest and not a liar, correct? So does that mean you blurt out all your secrets to your enemies when they ask you? No! You select what to say in a tactful manner, never having to lie but not necessarily saying truthful things that will screw up another principle to adhere to: Prudence.

So you bring up a good point about free speech and whom it may apply to. Obviously there are some groups who shouldn't have free speech granted to them because it is a weapon ultimately. But perhaps you don't have to sacrifice the principle to get the effect you desire. Perhaps you have to look at it that free speech was only ever meant to apply to one's own citizens, which in turn was supposed to apply only to one's own nation of people. If one were to fix citizenship to rescind all the non-white and non-naturalized Europeans of it, then one could uphold free speech and protect your nation's interests without sacrificing your principles because everyone's interests would be to uphold and improve things for their people more or less. Likewise the recognition of Communism and all its esoteric mutations can, should, and technically is illegal and has no free speech protections anyway, and with free speech you expose them to the legal axe. Understanding that would allow you to remove those elements without sacrificing your principles too.

Free speech is highly useful because the struggle of it strengthens the mind against bad arguments. Holla Forums is so resilient in part because we have to deal with fucking morons and trickery all the time and parse through shit to get a few flecks of truth here and there. Eliminating free speech out of expediency and abandoning the principle would result in a weakened populace that would become even weaker to ideas they'd never encountered before. Europe became so resistant to disease and destruction in war because they were constantly plagued by disease and war, and in that struggle collectively gained immunities to it. Our posh lifestyles now make us weak and vulnerable to our own minds and guilt, and only struggle can cure the body politic of it.

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Leave my principal out of this!

also nice tryshlomo

I think that free speech ought to be preserved. It's also critically important. Allow people you disagree with to say whatever they like, but encourage them to say what they really think. Most people do not support the revolutionary left's endgame, and the more that they can be persuaded to reveal it, the better. Social media creates echo chambers in which transient and underemployed youth can talk about the benefits of a world without borders or tradition, and whilst the population at large might be receptive to promises of a land of milk and honey should the socialists triumph, they'll quickly reject this if the socialists reveal that part of their vision is the elimination of anything they dislike.

Killing your enemy feels good. Winning feels good. Destroying your enemy in every conceivable way feels good.

You may think you understand the "principals," rather; principles, that Holla Forums adheres to but it would not be far-fetched for someone who browses Holla Forums to one day take out a few notorious kikes. What's he and the media going to do when they catch up to one another? Claim that he was inspired by a chinagolion taiwakorean noodleboard to kill (((people)))?

The bottom line is that neither we nor the media can stop what an individual decides to do when he takes matters into his own hands. The jew would probably jump the gun and stage a false flag against us because the jew desires the media coverage. Would that discourage an individual who's already set on spilling jew blood? At most it would probably alter his plans.

No shit, faggot. Freeze peach is a means to an end, not an end in itself - the latter is a lolberg trap. The idea is to fight for it in order to disseminate the requisite redpills in the hopes that whites can take power in their own lands and then ban free speech for it's enemies and detractors. National Socialism 101. That's not cognitive dissonance it's realpolitik.
I don't think you realize where you are - this board is filled with edgelords myself included who are well aware of both the necessity and cathartic power of purging the white race's enemies. Who are you trying to convince here?

Now THIS is what needs to happen for us to win. It'd be little use to become what we hate most the cycle would simply repeat all over again.

Actually free speech works fine being a universal. The more the left says, the more people wake up. Their lying mouths will be closed by the venom that they spray from them. We just need to make people feel they CAN talk back.

Free speech and private properties are two principles I will not break, for they are cornerstones of the right.

What's with the amount of reddit spacing in the past months?
Piss off you reddit niggers.

Good post. This part in particular. Kikes and lefties only wanted free speech when they thought they could control and direct it. Now that they've realized that's impossible, they're suddenly against it. There is nothing to be gained for us by abandoning it now, and everything to lose. The only reason I can see that someone would want to restrict speech, is because they are lying to you or they think you will be tricked by someone else who is lying to you.

Free speech is chaos, and a system that can thrive in chaos is one that can resist all forms of chaos better. Gasoline is an explosive, but in the careful system in your car it is fuel.

Exactly the benefit of them being in power. They expose themselves and the filth of their ideas, no realizing the light of public scrutiny will one day burn them down. The problem is when such ideas go underground and fester in dark places, sometimes to strengthen in a hurtbox, which when opened overtakes society. Free speech is a pressure release valve to discover dissidents of the system and deal with them when they are small or to point out and remedy faults in the system itself. It is a highly useful chaos if tended well.

Amen. We walk the path of light. No point in continuing to perpetuate the pillars of despair the left has constructed by being tyrants over the souls of our people. We must help them to cast off this nonsense and heal them not chain them further.

In time every state and movement becomes corrupt, restricting speech in the name of revolution or some other goal inevitably becomes restricting speech against a corrupt government.

Or to reinforce the speech of the next corrupt government.

Fuck that, if we are right and the truth is on our side then we will prevail.

Restricting speech implies weakness and insecurity.

Assuming we have the will to do so. That's the caveat, and why the left tries so hard to demoralize people. To convince people not to speak the truth, and eventually to speak the lie, and from there to believe the lie.

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Chaos is also a means to an end, mein freund. Chaos is the primordial soup in which we bathe, but the end goal is always Order. To coalesce from this disparate form into the ultimate and final hierarchy that is antithetical to chaos - that is the end goal. Chaos is and always has been a precursor; don't get too comfortable, user.

We live in chaos now. And tell me my dear user. How free is our speech beyond these hallowed boards? It isn't. Chaos is eternal. Order does not exist truly. The interactions of so many moving parts is too complex to map and in truth should be left to it so as to allow people organic growth and the strength such brings. That said being robust to chaos is the end goal. If all it takes to topple you is chaos, then the world will surely provide it.

Good goy.

Free speech is against any kind of order.

This.

Chaos is necessary because order, even the best one, stagnates and becomes corrupt.

History is a cycle.

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its actually the opposite. everything has cause and effect and can be understood with the correct tools/measurements. you get what you deserve and just because of this truth has you living like a goy doesnt mean your life is chaotic.

Entropy always wins. A society even a perfect one will invariably fail if too constrained. The public require a certain level of vice and freedom. Look to prohibition for an example. And a society too orderly will become indolent and weak. A la the roman empire.

In modern day Weimerica the firs amendment is used to justify interracial cuck porn. It's used to justify the media completely ling about everything. So many people on Holla Forums like you are just complete cowards. Until we start actually killing our enemies and taking away the things they hold dear, we wont accomplish anything significant. We're not going to be able to vote or argue our way out of a planned genocide.

Anyone who still thinks there is a civil, democratic solution to white genocide and Jewish control of the West, is a lemming.

You don't actually get what you deserve, karmic justice is for the next life.

Censorship is the tool of those who want to withhold truth, not promote it.

Why do they censor us ? Because they fear what we have to say. Because deep down they know that if we had the necessary public coverage and total freedom of speech we could convince a vast majority of people, not only white people, that cultural marxism and all the subsequent ideologies : multiculturalism, radical feminism etc are a cancer for humanity. The system works only because it has the power to suppress its oponenets.

Wanting to silence someone is admitting that you can't refute their arguments and that you have something to hide. Do you silence the fool that tells everybody in town that the world will come to an end tomorrow ? No, you let him speak and let people figure out for themselves that what he says is nonsense. Sure, he might convince one or two people to join him in his delusions but in the end it doesn't matter because the vast majority of people base their reasoning on facts and logic instead of blindly following anyone.

We can and must always refute the globalist agenda. Facts and logic are on our side, let them speak, point out their fallacies, their contradictions, the consequences of their ideas, do it well, do it often and people will naturally rally you.

I believe that if we succeed in the long run, we should not suppress leftist ideas but instead demolish them. Expose them to our children and demonstrate why those ideas are dangerous and what they have caused in the past. Make people remember what cultural marxism has done and how it took power so that they never make the same mistakes we did in the last centuries.

In short, calling for censorship is demeaning and counter-productive.

Go kill some jews or shut up.

Freedon of speech is the reason Holla Forums still stands.

I agree with this guy, and as a Holla Forumsnologist, if Holla Forums starts pushing for censorship, particularly in ways that subvert the ability of information to flow freely on a technological level, then I will fight Holla Forums to the death.

So the jews are planning a genocide, and the only reason people are waking up this is because they can't stop us from talking about it. And free speech is bad.
Tell me more.

pretty sure that's the goal here
try to get us to adopt retarded, self-destructive agendas

Nice platitudes. Problem is that Jews don't make actual arguments, they simply saturate the world with lies and create so much bullshit that many people can't even find the truth behind all the bullshit.

8/pol/ still stands because a masonic pig farmer thinks it's a good investment. It has nothing to do with free speech, anons who criticize Trump are often banned.

You don't seem to understand the point of the OP, or the point of anything I said. Free speech is great when it doesn't apply to subversive kikes. There is no reason to allow Jews the ability to speak freely about anything, they'll simply use those freedoms to lie and deceive.

Shut the fuck up you dumb kosher retard. The moral "high ground" doesn't mean fuck-all when your enemies are killing you in the streets. Do not provide your enemies with the tools to destroy you when they will not extend you the same courteousy. Fucking kill yourself.

And how would this standard be applied to an anonymous internet?

Even in a war since we are multivariate and formless it pays to keep speech free as a way to enable rapid adaptation. Vid related.

So are anons who critcize Hitler.

And no, with or withiut free speech, the jew is going to push that shit anyway. So killing free speech instead of jew is not fixing jack shit. In fact, it will leave the jews in control of more shit since they are above the laws.

You trash are the fucking worst

And yet right-wing ideas are rising faster than ever in the US and EU. Sure jews bombard us with lies and deception but more and more people are seeing the truth. Freedom of speech on the Internet is what enabled many young men like myself to educate themselves and simply discover that they are not alone.

Jews don't have arguments ? Perfect. Have faith in your people.

If free speech is destroying your movement, it means your movement has some really shady shit to hide.

As a transcendental idealist, i would tend to disagree; order exists in the metaphysical realm and not only because we can grasp at it intellectually. What of the secret mechanisms at work behind the unfolding of nature? It arguably tends towards stability although as slaves to our temporal perspective we may not see its logic. Seeking to create on this earth the most accurate reflection of the Supreme as is within our humble means to do should be our duty, even if the results are all too human and shy of the mark. In my opinion, pure chaos is the natural home of the eternal jew; which is why it is the most faillable and abhorrent of all creatures and its demise is written in foul letters in its genome. If we want to thrive once and for all we have to embrace stability and defend it to the death.

No it doesn't you mentally disabled libertardian dumbfuck. Free speech isn't killing our movement, it's the adherence to free speech as a principal the face of enemies that don't. We need to stop upholding free speech as a golden rule when our enemies are ignoring it and silencing us whenever they please. Go back to your shitty subredddit

hi fbi

Hey, dumbfuck, the fact they are ignoring free speech means more power to our side, people inherently want to know the unknown.

What the fuck do you actually want anyway, ban communism? Ban jewish?

This could of been a perfectly good thread calling out Slave Morality and the chaos a group needs to win in any game theory. But then you had to go and ruin it with your stupid faggy larping
Who? We Holla Forums? We the new white order? WTF is wrong with you video game faggots? You're so out of touch you can't even speak like men, everything is a fantasy play with you beta males.
No… Because that's not what happened. What happened was SJW got out of control and we created memes mocking them. This expanded the redpills. Other than that gammergate didn't mean jack shit

It wouldn't. We're not talking about how to moderate image boards, you mongoloid. The point is that there's no reason to engage with Jews, there's no reason to debate them. If you ever meet Ben Shapiro, don't try to reason with him or prove him wrong, it wont work, just bash his face in with your fists. As simple as that. The main point that everyone should be picking up is that we're going to have to start actually killing people and showing that we are capable of being violent. That we are capable of taking on the offensive position. If you aren't willing to engage in direct action (or support those who do) against Judaism, then you're just a lemming and you're slowing us down. It's time to start supporting Dylan Roofs, to start encouraging terrorism.

Just look at how Islam has spread in Europe and America, terrorism works, and just like identity politics, only a fool would decide not to engage in certain practices which are proven to work.

Kill yourself.

Now this is one dumb motherfucker, tell me how many jews you are gonna kill tomorrow, m8.

You mean it's time to start working for the Jews.
Stop redpilling goy and start false flagging like the Muslism!

CIA recruitment thread #323 in the last 2months

So here we go, it is okay to criticize Trump, but not Hitler.

So much for the sacred cow, Hitler had a jew as his butler.

Can you name the state senator that Dylan Roof killed off the top of your head? Do you know what policies that senator forwarded?

Also, this meme that anyone encouraging violence is FBI or CIA is clearly Jewish bullshit meant to keep people afraid of ever doing anything real.

we can use tactics and political misdirection without resorting to debasement of free speech. everything else you said is common fucking sense. this wasn't worth a post faggot.

Hitler should have left the nips high and dry after pearl harbor then pulled the biggest kike job possible in all media, crying and pounding the floor and complaining about how evil Japanese were trying to make him look bad when he was just a good Christian who dindu muffin. He then should have blamed all the Jewish antagonistic siblings of German ships on niggers, asking America to please understand that he was hurting so bad from niggers he now felt their pain and wanted to donate a new schwartzenhalsenuberunterbrechung to the states immediately.

He then should have, in a fit of pique, invaded Russia and NOT stopped at the Moscow gates instead letting guderian power by through that bitch and end the white gook menace. Of course this he should have explained to America by way that Slavs reminded him of chinks, who reminded him of niggers, please understand.

Instead of employing critical cry-while-strike technique for 8x damage, he took the high road and now I live in Africatown USA and see rich Jews every time I go to the big city. Thanks for being a real stand-up guy Hitler, lord knows it was worth it.

Dylan Roof killed worthless niggers.

Don't tell me you want to encourage us to shoot up worthless niggers and get van'd.

op you're eating your own shit retarded and probably a jew. once we debase our position by censoring speech there won't be anything of consequence to distinguish us from (((them))). (((they))) still control the system and wield ungodly institutional power. if we accept it's okay to censor speech then immediately we'll be the ones censored and we lack the ability to censor the left to the same extent that we would be.

championing free speech is one of the best ways to attack and undermine the (((left))). their constant censorship, echo-chambers, and need for state-supported belief systems (e.g., the holocaust) is rotting them from the inside. it becomes obvious to everyone they have only bad ideas, nothing new, nothing useful to offer. let them call you a nazi or antisemite, that should make you proud. let them call for degeneracy it pushes whites away. and when (((they))) call for (((communism))), for (((bank bailouts))), for (((wars))) we have not surrendered the right to oppose them. and when they try to take that right away we fucking kill them.

censorship is not necessary in a traditional, monocultural, patriarchal society. that's what we should be working towards.

sage because you're a george soros shill trying to trick anons into surrendering their rights. WARNING TO ALL ANONS: WE'RE GOING TO BE SEEING A LOT MORE OF THIS, THEY'RE MAKING A PUSH TO GO AFTER THE 1ST AMMENDMENT

libertyheadlines.com/united-nations-urges-us-give-free-speech-combat-racism/

THIS user IS CORRECT

* Sinkings of German ships

That doesn't make any fucking sense. If we provide free bsoeech to our enemies unconditionally when they are willing to take it a at from us. We are providing them with a definitive advantage over us

Yes. Exactly

Yeah, we wouldn't want to debase anything as noble as free speech.

news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/fk-white-people-artwork-not-hate-speech-court-rules-20170705

Now go out and do a "Fuck Kikes" art project and see how much your freedom of speech is protected.

Just because you conquered a shithole doesn't mean you have to make concessions with the locals or allow them any sort of freedom unless it serves your own ends of wiping them out and provided it doesn't threaten your position of power over them.

I have no idea how any of that is supposed to be related to free speech.

You said free speech is fine except it doesn't apply to jews.
I asked how would you would apply that to an anonymous internet.
You said you wouldn't, and then went off on some unrelated rant.
So wtf are you even talking about.

So exactly are you going to deny the enemy right of free speech when they control the state and media?

Like holy shit, how do you ban communism when communists rule the show and they hate free speech?

Nope

No one cares. He was just used for more gun control laws and anti-white propaganda. He was a CIA operation and it's painfully obvious. Just like Muslim attacks.

The old Richard Spencer argument…. We are doing real things. That's why you're here trying to fuck it up you kike

REDPILLS IS THE MISSION Holla Forums

ACCEPT IT AND IGNORE CIA THREADS THAT ENGAGE YOU IN RALLIES OR VIOLENCE

Who's speech do you think they'll clamp down on shitnuts? You saying Jews did 911 or leftists telling kids being gay is cool? Think about the progression ffs.. I'll stand by the right to speak freely above all else.

Take a gander at the Goebbels diaries and tell me we support unchecked speech.

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The fact the enemy is against free speech works for us. It tickles the brain of normalfags.

No need to abandon the free speech maxim if it will be managed to train some good assassins able to take out key figures in administration and education and massacring the youth movements of globalists and socialists. I think 10 Breiviks and some 50 sniper teams should be enough to cast so much fear in the heart of the sheep that they will not dare to even think about pandering to the victims because of self preservation. Independent white wing Gladio is the solution imo

Pinkney.

you are arguing that a place that doesn't have free speech, doesn't have free speech
In a place that has free speech, it would be. They'd probably get you kicked out of any private venue (since there is always a jew on the board), but they wouldn't be able to arrest you for it, or stop you from doing it in public.

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If you think that more anti-white propaganda is a bad thing, then you're stupid. The demonization of the Confederate Flag brought a lot of people to our side. The more uncomfortable whites are, the better. When whites are comfortable, they're complacent.

Maybe you haven't noticed this, but Islam continues to spread and grow every year. They now control London. Terrorism works.

Oh then praise Roof, now when will you get to be like him?

We will follow your examples.

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And yes. The lack of transparency is exactly how we ended up with the nightmare alphabet agencies running free. Anyone who wants to impede ANYONE'S right to speak is in the wrong by fucking default.

A Chinese restaurant in California was shut down because the owner donated money to David Duke once. All the white men who went to the Unite the Right event were fired form their jobs. Freedom of speech does not exist for us, stop pretending it does. Stop defending something which doesn't defend you.

So when will you start to do some actual terrorism?

Thats not the cap I wanted, and I cant find it.

Except freedom of speech is a right, the fact the government does not respect it does not mean it is bad, it means the opposite.

Like what the fuck are your point here?

None of that was done by the government or the law.
Are you are lying implying that it was?

And become the next corrupt, evil regime? No thanks :DD

I am increasingly convinced that, ironically, their point is to use their freedom of speech to deceive you into believing that there's no such thing as free speech.

I guarantee you that the kikes in this thread arguing for free speech for everyone have never actually studied any National Socialist literature, and have no idea how actual political change happens. If they aren't kikes, they're probably useful idiots who believe the Left vs Right dynamic is actually real.

you lack the will to power. You don't matter

But those places do not have free speech, user.

You are not defending free speech when you support these censorship.

Ah, here it is. Reminder to not be a fucking cunt and stop pointing fingers at whites who have given their lives in opposition of white genocide and cultural marxism, it makes you a race traitor in the rest of our eyes. Muh poor dead negresses, collateral damage, race war, youre weak and wont last, step out of our way.

He believes in horseshoe theory. He seems to think that somehow we would be just as evil as the Jews. He's clearly not serious about anything.

If you don't believe in the laws your fellow citizens create then you have an obligation to fucking do something about it.

Like what nazi literature have you studied, champ?

And what did Hitler say about free speech?

You are already thinking quite jewishly.

Don't be tricked by that bs. The restaurant shut down because people flooded their yelp page with bad reviews and boycotted the place. The other people were fired because most places can fire you for any reason.

Reported for being hostile to NatSoc and Holla Forumsacks. TRS or Reddit are for you. You havent a clue about National Socialism if you think free speech is part of it.

You're obviously both faggots.

Dylan Roof only served as gun control propaganda. They even said he was too scared to shoot up a hood, so he chose a church.

And yet they don't fire people for going to Pride Parades or Black Lives Matter events. It's almost like Free Speech only exists for our enemies, and if we speak out, we're ostracized from society. Aka, Free Speech doesn't exist.

I would not have anything to do with your triggered group thing bullshit.

You are one thin skin nazi.

Free speech isn't what matters, killing niggers and jews is the end goal. If I have free speech and niggers are still maing up half the murder in my country then I am loud and impotent at the same time.

At least nazis have a record of killing jews.

When random leftwingers and centrists will fall with a bullet between the eyes you will run back to Israel

So if free speech does not exist, there is no need to kill it right?

You are purposely conflating legally and socially acceptable speech. You cannot be arrested for speaking out in the US. In Germany, you can, and will be. That's the difference.

This place is for National Socialists committed to stopping white genocide. Youre not a National Socialist, and you are hostile to us. You are antifa, and cuckchan is for you.

So do jews. And pretty much everyone.

Why? I am not a jew, but not a thin skin nazi either.

That's besides the point, in both countries measures are being taken to emasculate the men.

I'm not a nazi but I respect them for what they stood for. Nazis don't exist any more than communists do. Today you are either a globalist or a nationalist. Why do you want socialist in your name anyway?

Oy vey. Get ready for the Winter of happenings

Cuckchan is leaking.

I didn't as what you are faggot, I don't want to know. I said "at least nazis have a record of killing jews" and you said why? What the fuck do you mean why?

No, it is the point. That's what free speech is. You cannot be prosecuted for speech. The government cannot interfere with speech. That's it. That's all it is.

That actually is beside the point

I am a thick skin nazi who loves frankness and hates thin skin nazis who act just like commies.

Oh man, but I thought I was oppressing you for badmouthing glorious Hitler? Who had jewish friends?

Certainly, which is why in my metaphor the Chaos is just the fuel - its utility is fully realized by the Order the car's engine provides. Order alone is dead, and Chaos alone is merely destructive.

Exactly. Just because your enemy uses the battleground too doesn't mean you must find a different field of battle. Because truth and reason are on our side, he have the upper hand. The only reason the enemies of the West hold sway now is that they have been allowed to creep into positions of power and given the tools to delude the masses. Remember that merely noticing these inconsistencies and pointing them out is enough to make the whole corrupt system shudder - let alone speak about its true nature.

Aaaaaand the shills and morons are derailing everything again. The struggle is real, and strengthens the worthy. Such is life in Holla Forums

Yes it is, free speech doesn't mean I can freely kill niggers. So it will never suffice.

You have no idea what National Socialism is, and its not my duty to educate you. Youre a point of ridicule. You think were marxist socialists, that alone shows how much you know.

You can't educate anyone because you have an IQ of 65.

Enjoy your ban.

research.calvin.edu/german-propaganda-archive/haken32.htm

That makes no sense. It's not even wrong. It's just meaningless.

I do not think you know shit about shit either.

And for being anti-marxists, you sure act like one of dem marxist bitches.

HELP MOD! SOMEONE IS SAYING AGAINST HITLER!

I'm not going anywhere you kiss-ass.

Whining about free speech means you haven't realized what's at stake yet. There's a lot more than free speech on the line faggot.

Tumblr might be more appropriate for you.

salt-left is derailing and shilling today again.

So Hitler is for individualism and anti-group think.

You should learn from him.

Why? I get banned when I insult dem marxists, it is the same shit.

Did the holocaust happen?

Reading Mein Kampf is mandatory on this board, and gets you a 1 month ban if you havent. Both you autists have never read a single thing about National Socialism. You openly suggest its the same thing as marxist socialism, that its also for unchecked free speech, you think its an individualist exclusive ideology, except a mix of collectivism and individualism. Theres something called the 25 points of National Socialism, something else I am almost certain youve never heard of. Go read the mandatory material on the front page, and lurk for 2 years. This isnt cuckchan, this is a high quality board for actual discussions and progress among National Socialists. We have absolutely no tolerance for shitposting anti-Natsocs. Thats not what were about. You want to go post about the evil fascists taking away free speech, go do it on Reddit, or cuckchan, or TRS, or Tumblr.. but that is not what this place is for. You want to go cry about Breivik and Roof, do it somewhere else.

So let's not whine about freedom of speech, let's whine about freedom to kill niggers.

Goddamn jews do not even try nowadays.

Did the holocaust happen or not?

No, cuz there is no proof of it.

Ah yes, the bible of nazis.

Do go on, tell me those 25 points, lesse how they encourage you to be triggered bitches.

No, cuz there is no proof of it.

Alright. Prove to me that it didn't happen. Let's see what you know.

And if you want to cry about freedom of speech, go do it somewhere.

Holla Forums is a freedom of speech board.

It did not happen because there is no proof for it.

The gas chamber is a terribly inefficient way to kill, and it is more likely the undesirables died due to diseases and lack of supplies.

You lack the integrity. Ideas, to you, are just a tool. You'd gladly execute the Romanovs, or change banners if the situation suited you. You are doomed to fail in the long run, just like the current system, and it's entirely because the machiavellian idiots running shit are thinking just like you. Good luck with that!

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You haven't shown me any proof of that. For all I know is that you are just repeating things. Try it again.

tl;dr:

Screw freedom of speech, let's go kill niggers like Dylan Roof.

And mod, ban all those who insult Hitler.

Jews not trying hard today.

Ah, so you don't know anything. Alright then.

Feels like fucking Chicago or Baltimore in here. Like the mods have just given up on stopping the cunts and now we have a spike in shitposting, to show us what its like when they dont crack down.

Ive eaten some stupid bans but people need to stop shitting on kampfy and calling him a kike. Yea, I like book threads too, but if this is the result, I want the gassings to come back.

I can't show proof for something that does not happen user.

And for the gas chamber, hint, look at the wooden door that supposedly bars dozen of people in.

Yeah, man, this thread is too fucking genius.

Yes, mod, gas all those that disagree with me.

How dare they?

Depends what you mean by 'dead'. In "Decline of the West", Spengler distinguished between Being and Becoming; "Being" (i.e. that which is) includes everything that is rigid, fixed, complete, and causal - in essence, that which is already fully actualized (extended) and immune to transformation, ergo that which is dead. Everything that the natural sciences seek to measure and categorize falls into this category. In contrast, "Becoming" includes everything which is governed by Time, Destiny - Life, in short. My point with this is the following: If we believe, as Evola and the ancients did, that some Men can actually attain total transcendence - pure Being - and thus step out of the endless cycle of Becoming and the turmoil of perpetual Change, then is the Structure that would arise from this similar to 'Death' ? If absolute Order is the opposite of unfolding; the opposite of Change - in other words the opposite of Life as we grasp it, then there are other implications to your statement that "Order alone is dead". Is Eternity death, or is it just beyond both death and its opposite?

Youre a fucking tumor.

You havent read the mandatory reading and are openly hostile to National Socialism. This gets you a ban, you would know this, if you had been here for any length of time.

Death dies too if we consider reincarnation.

Oh boy, look at the expert nazi here, showing proofs of something that dors not happen.

And do show me your Nazi PhD, you can't even type right.

Not that familiar with hinduism, but isn't reincarnation a penalty for not achieving Godhead in this life? Endless rebirth is a reflexion, on the macro-level, of pure Becoming - as I understand it those who are subject to reincarnation are slaves of endless Time, punished by a continued Separation from the eternal plane where only the Complete Ones dwell. So yes, 'death' may indeed be overcome but the resultant life is a purgatory.

Well, it is karmic justice, you can end as a human in this life or a dog in the next life.

The fact you can become gods or saint is probably chinese influence.

The left didn't gain ground by following free speech they got here because they made discussing things like white genocide and the legitimacy of the holocaust taboo. The fastest way to make a side sympathetic to the normies is to take away their platform.

Holla Forums work different we shame our opponents with absolute facts. "You are wrong, here are all the facts if you can not figure out why you are wrong you are retarded, if you continue fighting for the genocide of your people despite knowing these facts you are a cuck." We don't hide or silence because we don't need to let the enemy fall on their own sword they so willingly put in the ground to die on.

It's not a principle thing it's a going out and hanging Jews in the street will destroy any momentum we fought so fucking hard to gain. Logically DotR can only happen when circumstances reach a specific point we are not at. You figure it out yourself.

They're using Alinsky. Just use the Rules for Radicals against them. They're the establishment now so they can't use it themselves.

The moral will always be ruled by the amoral. Morals are like any other software system: they're predictable and they have vulnerabilities. The vulnerability in a moral person is they are unwilling to "do what it takes" to achieve goals (under-reach); whereas the vulnerability in an amoral person is being too aggressive in their goal seeking (over-reach). In warfare, consistent over-reach beats consistent under-reach, but strategic employment of both strategies (ambush for ex) is best.
Those who rule either broke off their chains of morality or their introduction to the chains was external and objective (savvy Chad), versus being "bathed in it from birth" like Upstanding Citizens And Statesmen(tm) are introduced and bound (autistic Virgin).
Thinking of humans as nodal computers, and societies as entities formed by common cultural software protocols/memes, makes politics go from "WTF?!" to almost crystal clear.

Charlesmagnes broke the rules and brought weapons to a weaponless meeting and killed all the saxons leaders.

This hideous act led to the conquest of saxons and expanse of frankish empire.

History favors the bold, but without moral and honorable guidelines, this world will be shit.

just say it already you huge faggot you know you want to
TRUMP IS A KIKE SHILL
TRUMP IS A KIKE SHILL
TRUMP IS A KIKE SHILL

HILLARY WOULD HAVE BEEN A BETTER CHOICE right user? lets disregard the first president it openly pro white in years because he meets with people in Israel like literally every president

All beliefs according to which it is possible to attain Divinity are residual traces of the ancient Hyperborean religion, chinese beliefs included. The chinese word for the universal Godhead "Di" is cognate with the proto-IndoEuropean "Dyus" (later latinized as "Deus") after all. There is nothing "chinky" about the belief that some Men can become Divine, it's as Aryan as it gets. To return to reincarnation, there is no need to be returned to the earth as a fleshy envelope for those who have reached this level.

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someones hunched over jew in a dark room is getting paid ovetime

Oh I am so scared 😉

If you are a right winger, man up and grow thicker skin.

Be more like Hitler and less like jews.

Man, fuck yeah I love being paid. Keep up (16) and (3) or you ain't getting anything.

Trump is not openly pro-white you deluded fuck

Morals are for moral agents. Nature doesn't give a shit.

Well, humans shape society as the anti-nature.

Moral systems must rhyme with the Natural System lest they eventually collapse from too much divergence.

we've had this discussion before
We are better than them, that is why we fight
what is the point of fighting the jew that you hate if you become the jew in the process?
you might as well just offer up your foreskin and join them now

OP, which principles are you willing to give up in order to win? How far are you personally going to take it? Would you strap on an explosive vest and go into a crowd if it means you would take a few dozen with you? Get the fuck out of here you drooling retard. Your brain doesn't work. GET THE FUCK OUT

Morality does not have to be weak; in fact it cannot be. The virtues of the Western world are firstly Truth, without which we cannot know anything. Secondly justice, which we cannot dispense without the truth - for how would we be able to ascertain if the person was truly guilty or not? And lastly order; order comes about when justice has been served with the truth in mind.

Holla Forums has always been dedicated to the truth. When the rest of the world insisted that we were conspiracists and hate-mongers; we stubbornly chanted that we simply sought the truth. The truth is racist, sexist, anti-semitic and wholly against the idea of equality. We have uncovered the truth about the actions of the parasite and the savage, about their goals, about how their invasion was pre-planned and facilitated. With this truth in mind we can now dispense justice. The traitors must be purged, the evil hanged and the criminal disposed of. This is what comes next. This is in line with our morality; with Christian morality, Western morality.

Once justice has been done we will have order.

This.

Victory is all that matters. No matter how we get there. Rules are for following after victory is achieved and the proper rules are established.

Anyone who thinks fighting them and following [[[their]]] rules is going to beat them simply hasn't been paying attention. It's a losers game that they WANT you to play.

Freedom of speech is important. But freedom of speech doesn't mean Jew pornography, promote miscegenation, the speech that seeks to subvert the youth, or 'simply a different way of thinking' that is degenerate faggotry. People need to stop falling into the trap of letting jew wordsmithing change the way you think about concepts. Freedom of speech is not [[[Freedom of Speech]]].

Why does this whole post read like a direct response sales letter?

How about you learn to refute their arguments? Restricting free speech is only good for the people that are wrong.

Long range marksmanship is a good skill to develop in case we have to fight. Our enemies might win if we fight at close range, but only those steeped in the gun culture can win an engagement at 500 yards. The gun culture is a warrior culture, and thus dominated by those with an honor code.

And there is the flaw in your logic. Killing is immoral yes, but If the left ever managed to institute a communist system they would not hesitate to take you out back, execute you and laugh while they are doing it. We should not be afraid to kill them if it means saving our civilization. The (((people))) pushing this shit have no rules and as long as we play their game and obey their rules we will be at a disadvantage, the left knows this. They are losing their grip, but deep down normies are still controlled by politically correct indoctrination. Show a "politically incorrect" right winger factual evidence blacks are inferior due to genetics and they will still deny it and become visibly uncomfortable because it is not PC.

Like James Damore tried to? Like Jared Taylor and countless others have tried for decades? Like Holla Forums has for years?

They restricted all our avenues for free speech despite us always destroying them on everything from gender wage gap myths to race so that only leaves a few options left, most them very radical.

Killing is killing. The reason you kill is what determines it's moral stance.

The Jews have tricked people into thinking that killing to save your race (only if you're white) is evil. But that killing to protect Israel is good. People need to get their moral compass back again.

Complex societies depend on moral agents, and by definition moral agents must have a system of morality. The reason we see moral agents occurring in nature (European people and civilization) is because the kind of groups they allow to naturally form are advantageous to survival and expansion. Nature doesn't give a shit though one way or the other though: introduce niggers into a welfare-giving Europe and they will breed out the Euros until the Euro system collapses from exhaustion from too few Euros holding it up, thus destroying the check on nature which allows niggers to thrive there (winter culls the stupid exposed horde).

yes goy, go commit terrorism

Anyone who suggests National Socialists were for unchecked free speech is so ignorant they expose themselves as not being worthy of posting on this board. Cuckchan is for you, or lurk for 2 years. Communist sentiments land you in a camp, faggots were eventually put to death in Germany if it was found out they were being faggots. I can go look up the specific code number, which German people started calling faggots - by the name of the law that executed them. Criticism of German culture was banned, he had all the media dicks to a free orchestra, and in the middle of it, announced there would be no more criticism of German culture, art, music, etc. He found people who spread defeatist attitudes anywhere, and gave them harsh treatment. Just for saying "Oh my god guys, I dont think we can win the war!" - not allowed. Dont like it? Fuck off, we dont need that bullshit, just like you get BANNED for BLACKPILLS here. Welcome to National Socialism, Goebbels would approve, and so do I. He banned outside media, banned members of the government from reading foreign media, including an education minister who said he needed to read it in order to counter-educate people and counter the propaganda. That was not even a good enough excuse. You people should read, and put down the lolberg garbage. Free speech worked in a pure white ethnostate, where only whites had power, and there was no such thing as communism, and Jews werent rotting us to the extent they are now etc. Free speech, and democracy, and capitalism are things we do not approve of. Get in line, or get the fuck out. You want to argue about if free speech is good, go on cuckchan. That has no value to us, in opposition to white genocide and cultural marxism, except as something to beat the left over the head with. Their censorship has no justification, and is hostile to the native people of the land, is done by Jews to promote genocide. Ours is righteous censorship, and we will be the ones to save our race.

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Fucking beautiful trips of truth.

We're already the ones being censored.

Yes. Why is this hard for you to understand?

Damn these shills are trying hard. Nobody is buying what you are selling you absolute fucking faggot.

Looks like someone read the Jewish version of NS and became a caricature nutzee. Pretty much everything you say is bullshit. There were no mandatory book burnings, there was very little censorship, yes, they had free speech. But as always the devil is in the details and it's easy to put a spin on the truth to blackwash people in hindsight.

No. Communist subversion landed you in a camp. It was not illegal to discuss communism in a reasonable and rational manner. It was not illegal even to be a communist. You could have communist books if you wanted to. What was illegal was working for communism to be instated. A nuance that keeps free speech but prevents subversion.

Being a faggot has nothing to do with free speech.

No. It was expected that members of the party and state media had certain standards for what they talked about but for the general population it was completely free. As a regular citizen you could have as much foreign media as you wanted and you could talk about it if you wanted to. There's a difference between soviet censorship and holding media and schools to a standard where they don't lie and are expected to not do the subversive things our marxist media does. It has nothing to do with free speech, really.

No u. Checked, though.

I agree with the rest of your post, but I'm pretty sure when Hitler took power, he commanded that all communist literature be burned. Perhaps it was only communist literature found in the Reichstag, but I don't remember such a detail.

Go tell that to all the beautiful anglos cucks that were shitting on Alexandre Bissonnette. We need more man like him…but cucks are always like no brah, but we can't use violence, were good Christians boys

Hello CIA. Go away please.

You're fucking retarded.
Think about our position right now. Who benefits from giving the state (or large organizations like corporations, if you're taking the extended view of free speech rather than the strictly 1st amendment view) the authority to restrict speech? Hint: it's not you. As far as actual government power goes, we have Trump (to whatever extent that's actually true, it doesn't matter because controlling the presidency is not enough) and that's it. As far as corporations, we have even less. Every company that controls a major platform for speech is officially opposed to pro-white speech.
It doesn't matter what your principled view about free speech is right now, because right now free speech absolutism is the pragmatic position for a hard rightist. Sure, maybe when you're king it makes sense to gas commies and pornographers rather than allow them free speech. You're not king.

Tabarnak (Fucking)
Arrête de (Stop)
Namefagger (Namefagging)
inb4 ok Kevin

Si tu ne veux pas utiliser de violence a ce point, tu es un tabarnak de shill…

Faut pas me confondre avec l'autre, ma critique se limitait à ton namefagging, le grand. Je suis extrèmement pro-violence, mais il faut bin la diriger; si notre geste nous amène à se ramasser "en-dedans" faudrait que ça compte pour plus qu'une simple catharsis

No, the book burnings were voluntary. That was really the amazing thing about the whole thing, so many people came together in agreement about how subversive shit was something they didn't want in their lives.

Also, a lot of literature was removed from public state venues, like you say the Reichstag for instance. But you could have a private collection as much as you wanted and many had just that. There's as I say a difference between the public state and officials having a standard they are obligated to adhere to and what the private public does. The lines there were clearly deliminated.

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Ca va très vite, Kevin…je ne peux plus sortir pour allez au magasin ou a l'épicerie sans voir des osties de nègres…

This is correct. The entire argument about whether the 10 Commandments should be on public property or not is one of these situations. Although I would bet good money that those complaining are kikes or kike funded.

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kek. En effet; on en arrive à l'impression que la somme de toute cette réalité est construite de façon à susciter des gestes de violence irrationnelle en guise de protestation, c'est d'ailleurs la réaction instinctive des aliénés - Je disais simplement que la violence rationelle en guise de protestation est la solution préférable. Il y aura un temps pour cette dernière.
Et d'ailleurs, tu devrais foutre le camp de ton réservoir de négritude urbaine O.P.C… Avant que tu ne sois contaminé (davantage)

Je vis littéralement dans une place qui commence par Sher- et fini par Ke…je te laisse deviner…

je devine bien - Mon ancien patelin universitaire. Pourtant j'ai bien apprécié mais c'était sans doute moins "enrichi" à l'époque. Du moins la ville en tant que tel l'était moins, les campus universitaires sont généralement assez noircis. Alors fait en sorte que cet interlude urbaine ne soit que temporaire…

Tu vis en campagne, dit juste la région…

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Si seulement.. Faute de ressources, je suis probablement dans une situation similaire à la tienne. J'habite ce qu'on appelait autrefois la capitale (civique) nationale en fait. Ça pourrait être pire I guess.

fini avec Génie?

Non, je fais juste changer de Bouchard…

There are so many numerous examples in Goebbels diaries of him shutting down newspapers and preventing the public, government, and even senior members such as Cabinet from reading foreign newscasts. Its not some Jewish fantasy distortion, its in Goebbels words himself, and its entirely justified. Instead of going through hundreds of pages of diaries to find the bits I want, why dont you just fucking pick up a copy and read it, its interesting and easy. Hes an intellectual heavyweight, it grabs you in from the start and never gets boring. I cant find any pdfs, Ive been going through the 42-44 section and have the 45 final entries waiting.He would tell them how to write their stories ffs. Free press is part of free speech, in case you werent aware. Freedom to be informed is also implied, most people consider banning books at the border, like Canada does, an attack on "free speech". I also never said anything about book burnings, those were spontaneous and done by people who simply wanted rid of marxist trash and degenerate smut etc. - Weimar German being as degenerate as it was.

OP… Breaking your principals is what they want. archive.fo/43eyB

It interests me that Americans refer to free speech as a right mostly ,it"s an ability and no jewish writen law can change that
I know its important as a law but thats only because you have to rely on kike owned ways of distribution.There should never be need to have it written ,it just exists

Why… yes, actually.

Principles are for faggots. Power is everything. You can be as principled as you want but if you can't enforce those on others they are worthless.

There is nothing immoral or unprincipled about defeating your enemy.

Assuming you win and are the last one standing
Otherwise you can get spiraled into more conflicts or reperations for (((war crimes)))

The antifa and leftist friends as they are today, and as you perceive them molded by this board are more like a bogeeyman, not because they arent that way because they are that way in essance and for a certain extend but because the real art of war is threat and perception management and in businesss attention and goyim motivation management.
And that isnt a real matter of intelligent in that case just like the creater of kryptos assumes the IQillusion which is nothing but a description for an creative of time investion and justification.
You do not achieve anything by boycotting companies unless you want to achieve a very distinct goal in a very distinct area. And usually frogs achieve that because they ARE that realm.
So "our enemies" to tie it to the entity of whatever arent here, because they would shit their pants so what is here is an illusion of said enemy or a very native class but never ever would a regular antifa friend come here at least not in significant numbers.
So speaking in that manner if i find out that you retrieved any personal information of me and used it against my interest you do the math.

As if you have any power here.

Until you have power, keep your principles.

We always keep our principles du missgeburt, whatever they are. The problem here arises, once you play that power game, imagine you are a very established politician is that the power game never exceeds the interests of your policy.

Yes, and soon you are going to be the next Trump.

Sure, you better find some macron. And then for exchange we do not give a fuck what happens to rest of them. Because i couldnt care less, so you better get ready to be assraped by jamal and find a justification and rationalization to be a submissive nigger because that is what you are judging you in a big interval.

And if i remind the principles my mommy and daddy told me if i would speak freely it would be like slapping mental cripples, doesnt feel right and is wrong.

yes, that is exactly right. the kikes do the exact same thing, so if you don't play the same game you will lose every time.

Actually you should be the one who gets ready, because it's not like you are doing shit but provocating on the internet.

And there aren't "we", you speak for yourself.

The fact the world is wrong doesn't mean your principles are wrong.

How exactly do you play the same game as the kikes?

The kikes are anti-free speech, are you anti-free speech too?

We are already getting ready. And we arent some pussies and we also got the delicious intelligence aswell. If it would be for me i would bring some military. I wonder what taste of whores your current leader of the fsb has, he has that taste for that high-end call girl shit, some really clean whores with some big tits, no matter if big or natural, usually of big height.

Yes, ready to LARP. I suspect you are one shit talker with nothing but bark.

And nah, my CO prefers dem young and DFC, the big tit bimbos are for plebs.

There is a difference between employing the same strategies as your enemy and betraying your principles. "A tool of the left" is just a tool the left happens to use. There is nothing inherently "left-wing" about the tactics gamergators used to expose the lying press. Doesn't matter if some commie used a strategy first, or claims to.

You seem to be confused since you mention this in the same context as free speech. Free speech is not a tool to defeat us, it is OUR tool to defeat THEM. They fear freedom, they hate any speech they can't control. The tool to defeat us is censorship. Damn right we cannot grant our enemies that tool. Free speech is literally our mission statement and the bane of their existence. Politically incorrect, as in technically correct, the best kind of correct. Correct as in the truth. Our enemy is anyone who opposes truth. That is how we identify them. That is how they have revealed themselves.

These "people" want to restrict communication / the flow of information. But this is the information age. Whoever fails to embrace information is doomed. Every time we win it's because we share information freely and they don't. We can create a much broader spectrum of memes and spread them much more quickly than they can. And they can never take this advantage from us. That's what gamergate was about. That's what making BROMPFT president was about. The "left" and the "right" could switch names and it wouldn't confuse me for a second. I would still know who my allies are, the truth-tellers. Remember how gamergate started, or pedogate, or how feminists don't want you to get a paternity test. Our enemies want to bury information. We dig it up and spread it. This is why and how we will win. Free speech is our core strength and end goal. If you're contemplating jeopardizing freedom of speech / freedom of information in some way then that's treason. You've lost sight of what it was always about.

P.S. Here's some game theory for allies and traitors alike: You can't beat your opponent by copying his every move. At best you would achieve a draw, more likely though you would lose because you did everything he did - with a delay.

OP, we are going to have to break >muh principles faggot lemmings before we achieve victory.

Just exactly what do you want to do?

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Adapt to the demands of the situation rather than bash our heads into the wall ant shout "but it isn't fair!"

Well i assume that a healthy appreciation for big natural isnt a plebish thing, the plebish thing however would be reiterating shit that isnt really understood and merely existts asa way of "intelligence signaling" to override the prounanced way of a bimbo. And in that manner liking big fake tits is a pretty accurate way of determining corelating with a certain numbers of sexual partners showing the same implants that these bimbos are sopimp.

Which means what, exactly?

Exactly how is freedom of speech going to stop you from doing anything?

Holla Forums, a freedom of speech board.

There is nothing wrong with free speech, because once it is free, you can just walk away from it unless someone ties it to your personality and deanonymises people, and once it does that it steps into realm of "public opinion" and then some meme vectors emerge, just like saying we are pussies and once you do that we show you that we arent pussies.

Just do what they do to us. Surgical strikes on intelligent enemies (harrass, hack, report-spam, whatever works), amplification of the dumb ones. And undercover ops, too.

Freedom of speech was a false ideal from the beginning. There is no reason to allow subversives the freedom to spread their messages nor for fools to perpetuate the lies they've been taught. The noble seek only to protect what is true.