Who the hell wrote this, this is some of the most prophetic writing in a game I've seen. They predicted everything that is going on in the world right now. This is just a mass dump of Holla Forums-tier redpills in a game.
Where did this guy come from and why the hell is he unknown?
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Stephen Pacotti
He also wrote Invisible War
Low quality bait there, friend. Here's your response.
The fuck is Invisible War?
I feel sorry for the poor bastard
Excuse me, Sheldon Pacotti
As far as I know they pretty much just took every conspiracy theory they could find and assumed they were true.
Well they hammered out how they could all be true at the same time too they didn't just slap them all to operate concurrently.
I actually hear they browsed around online when it came to looking at conspiracy theories and apparently they dug deep enough that the FBI actually had to visit them.
Funny, I don't recall the conspiracy being orchestrated by ancient jewish commies who developed cultural markerism to fill detroit with muslims.
If anything this game is a critique of the power structure inherit in society, that if a government exists it should serve the people and to not let profit pervert its purpose. Holla Forums-tier """"ideology"""" is completely absent from the game. Let me run the game's plot down for you one last time in case you forgot;
Billionaire (((Bob Page))) [Oh wait, he's not Jewish, he's white. Damn…] create a virus to infect the population to kill the underclasses (take note, this part is very important; that one sick guy in Detroit's clinic was right, there was literally not a single middle/upper class person who caught the infection - perhaps aside from Stanton Dowd, but he was Page's enemy and would be targeted anyway) so with them dead the population becomes under his control, using the virus as both a way to threaten people and give select individuals (rich people and government bureaucrats) free passes from his wrath. When the underclasses do the only sensible thing and revolt against the minority rich people who have access to the vaccine (Sounds like class war, I sure wonder what board on this website is concerned about that? It's certainly not Holla Forums…) they bribe and infiltrate a united national organization UNATCO and develop super police who are trained to obediently enforce their monopoly, using the terrorism as justification for its own violence. Only by breaking free from the hivemind and doing personal investigation (by reasoning with the enemy, the "terrorists" against official orders) does JC realize his employers were the culprits all along, when Walton Simons tries to reassign Joseph Manderly (who has been taking bribes from Bob Page) so he can take over UNATCO (as he's already done with FEMA) and Manderly refuses, Walton has him killed and his his death framed (this info appears on a terminal later in the game, I think it was France) onto JC (assuming you didn't kill Manderly yourself first). JC and some others defect, but again since Bob doesn't want any threats to his power such as a subject defecting, which he knew could happen, activates a pre-existing killswitch. JC goes to China and later finds out Maggie Chow has been working with Majestic-12 (even though she's not "in" the government, she's still rich, and money is the source of her power which gives her exploitable leverage over the lower classes with less or no money - a powerful message.) Then JC has to work with the Illuminati, and that while they appear to want to be friendly, in reality they want to rule the world, but they can't if there's nobody left to rule over, they are using JC to reclaim power and wealth in a capitalist system, showing that while intentions may seem good, opportunism always has a place as the face of altruism. Then we find out Bob Page used to be one of them but left because the concentration of wealth and power belonged the group and not him - I repeat, Bob Page screwed over his own rich, powerful friends so that he could become even more rich and powerful than they were, displacing wealth and power from a group onto a sole person. Even going so far as to create an artificial all-seeing AI.
TL;DR - The conspiracy was created by rich people and government, the upper classes. Not le ebil jewz or kneegrows, a race. This game is about class war (not necessarily workers vs. bosses, but poor with no vaccine vs. rich with all the vaccine) and anti-centralized government power structure, not white genocide or race war. Basically, this game is Holla Forums without the socialist aspect, and you're retarded if you think Holla Forums has any basis at all in this game.
But jews are white
I swear he's cheating though, he's being eaten by a turret and a mech and I'm filling him full of plasma blasts and he doesn't die after I've died but then if I don't shoot him with plasma and then die the turret kills him.
Anyway play GMDX it's the best Deus Ex mod I've ever tried it fixes a large amount of issues with the original
I feel stupid for waiting so long for Revision now that I've played GMDX. I couldn't even complete a revision playthrough, I've played GMDX for the whole weekend so far.
The game was developed by primarily left leaning people, I'm surprised Holla Forums tries to dig it's claws into this game at all.
(((pol))) would hate this game anyway, the leader of the illuminati is a nigger
Nah I'm not seeing it, Deus Ex is pretty much showcasing a technocratic dictatorship that utilizes technology for absolute control and power. And the endings are the answers to this budding problem, making it about race or class warfare is a very simplified view. Especially when they use conspiracy threories from basically both sides.
The whole Jew thing is because most of the time when you look up a powerful man's biography when it get's into his ancestry or race a startling number of them have Jew in there. Then there are guys like these.
FUCK YOU Holla Forums
But at least you don't have this poltard desire to make every good vidya somehow "red pilled"
Any GOG specific issues I should be aware of ahead of time?
I love deus ex and think it's a great game, but the story and dialogue are so convoluted and badly conveyed that it really makes it hard to say dx has a good story.
Not to mention there's no point in giving you different choices in dialogue when 95% of the time you will probably go through them anyways.
I mean the story is okay at best, not as good as people make it out to be.
It's built to work with the original release so I doubt it, although there's an issue with the steam release.
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Leave it to a lefty to completely misinterpret everything they experience.
It's clearly reflecting the NWO/one world government conspiricies popular in the right wing at the time. John Birch Society type shit. Worries about the UN turning into a superstate, the deep state growing out of control, conglomerates consolidating industries with government cronyism, the federal government policing citizens, population control, FEMA death camps, false flag terrorist attacks, fluoride in the water and chemtrails in the skies sapping the people's will to resist, and so on. Most of it is extrapolation of then-current events into the future so it's no surprise it reflects reality so well. We haven't fixed any of these problems.
Fun fact: the Jewish conspiracy was actually something created to keep /pol from interfering with the real conspiracy.
Is something rich and powerful folks say to keep the dumb plebeians from rioting. Jews are a handy scapegoat.
If you want conspiracies dig into the donors of both the Democrats and Republicans.
American politics is a cruel joke.
you explained it yourself, no one can spell his fucking name KEK.
I respect the fuck out of the man though. Redpilled me.
I agree completely. And its mainly because the game was rushed. I think though Human Revolution and Humanity Divided are far far worse stories, they're even worse than Invisible War frankly, especially Humanity Divided, it added nothing to the story, you could say it was a spinoff game. Bob Page spent most of the game going "we shouldn't do this.. oh we did.. oh well.. not that I care because I'm head of MJ12 and am about to undermine this whole organisation anyway". Honestly I wish they'd just gone and made the story about Page's Betrayal and added the story of the Knights Templar to the game. You can see Square Enix is purposely going out of its way to tie their story back to Deus Ex 1 as it'll mean they will have to be stricter with the style or the fans will riot.
To beat Walton try the DT or the Sniper Rifle. their damage per hit is faster and will stagger him. Remember a Headshot is a lethal takedown.
Invisible War is Space Frogs and Nazi Templars fighting over Nanites Son.
Also All Corporations are Taco Bell now.
Holla Forums needs to leave.
Don't believe me? It's all in the numbers.
that's because the writing isn't prophetic but uses fact and reason to build the game's story. Also note the constant mention of bankers
bankers = (((jews)))
Just a reminder that Warren Spector is a jew.
I'm not sure how much it was intentional to be so prophetic. I think that they just put all the popular conspiracies of the time in one place, but they didn't go too far with lizard people, aliens, supernatural.
But as it turned out many of those conspiracies turned out to be true, even if not exactly like portrayed.
For example, back then nobody knew about Bilderberg aside from hardcore conspiracy theorists but today most of the people do mainly thanks to Jon Ronson and such. That even forced them to make a website and explain their agendas and what are they about.
I was going to say the same. Deus Ex is great, but it gets too much credit for being prophetic. All they did was lurk some conspiracy theory sites and throw them all into the game, likely minus all of the JQ.
Then it's a coincidence that Jews are disproportionately over-represented among the rich and powerful, right?
There is figuratively nothing wrong with being jewish.
Jesus Christ you faggots, there exist far more politics than those two extreme positions.
It's neither.
Fuck off, boardkike.
Maybe you should just listen to Holla Forums
So much this. It doesn't differs much than fucking tumblr fags so fuck off.
Nepgear is shit m8
I'm going to tell you to fuck off since your shitpeddling is allowed here, but you're just infantile or ignorant.
Do what the writers of Deus Ex did, read a shitload of books. That's what they did, then they mixed in fact, fiction and intimate guesswork on what the future could hold in a dystopic world.
So basically, get learned.
Oh yeah should have added this. Enjoy your nightmares.
dubs of truth confirm
So you don't know what the inspiration for Deus Ex was. Let me tell you: It was Holla Forums tier conspiracy theories that inspired Deus Ex. Not "tons of books xD". Just the most fringe right wing conspiracy theories.
And oh look they were all (mostly) true.
But lets make sure we never listen to Holla Forums anyway even though what they say so often turns out to be true.
What was true, exactly? Can someone explain to me what Deus Ex predicted that actually came true? Half the characters and organizations in the game are made up, and the game's backstory involves a new civil war in the USA
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Yeah, let's conveniently ignore characters and just pretend the background story is the only thing that matters. For reference I am going to use the webm posted by . The NSF that are at the very start of the game labelled as a group of right-wing extremist seccessionists that want a "second American revolution" (thus hinting towards them being politically more aligned to the founders) are claimed to have been framed in a false flag attack and argue in favour of self-employment (since otherwise it wouldn't work well as proof) and states taxes to be a tool of impoverishment. Then there's the thing about FEMA camps which is largely addressed by conservatives despite it being an issue that would affect people across the political spectrum. China is argued to be a land of freedom on the mere basis of it providing economic freedom which is stated to outweigh the militaristic force of the government. And then there's the clip stating that the elite plan to eliminate national identity in Europe, which is definitely something Holla Forums would have no issue with because "lol spooks".
Are they really that retarded or is this just some dank ass bait?
Invisible War's writing was a lot more interesting on a second playthrough. A lot of the themes and concepts it explores are pretty easy to spot in the modern day.
Oh yeah and let's not forget the fact that the Northwest Secessionism Forces is a hint towards one of the multiple secessionism movements in the area The Northwest Territorial Imperative, Cascadia and the Northwest Front, all of which are "evil racist right-wing bigots" and since a lot of conspiracy shit in the game is based on actual conspiracies, it would make sense that if they were talking about a secessionism movement that came from there then it would be inspired by actual events.
IW still had great writing, the direction and the game being built primarily for console is where it got it's shit all fucked up.
It's a red pilled game but unfortunately Warren Spector is blue pilled as fuck.
Also the red pills were only by accident. The game had an anti-capitalist agenda, especially at the end when Paul blatantly shits on capitalism.
Jesus Christ, I've only barely made it past Liberty Island and I can tell these people bringing board politics onto Holla Forums YET AGAIN haven't even gotten past the goddamned menu screen.
They literally say the entire goddamned motif of the game within the first five minutes: "Old Men, Running the world, etc. etc." (Now admitably, they were planning on ousting said old men, but the point still stands.) What that user who all the "Holla Forums people" are shitting on was pretty much spot on with the plot except for that last bit about "class warfare."
Like Ross Scott said in his Game Dungeon about this exact game, the entire thing about Deus Ex is just rich people doing some really despicable shit to become richer. It entirely revolves around some dude trying to set up a plutocracy with him pulling the strings.
(and of course to ensure I'm not shitposted to death: For the record, I do not like socialism. I do not use Holla Forums or Holla Forums.)
I'll post the IW video while you're at it.
Good choice.
Hmm, you sure seem eager to make it sound like you're not Holla Forums, got something to reveal, comrade?
Warren Spector is blue pilled as fuck but fortunately he had way less to do with DX's development than most people believe.
Which game are you talking about?
Not every Holla Forums user browses either one of those boards. Fuck off.
I'm getting defensive because if I'm too adamant about my argument it will end up being that either I'm Holla Forums or a shill. I'd rather be overly defensive and have you merely imply something rather than end up causing a horde of people to come into the thread.
go back to reddit
"old men" = Rothchilds. Fractional Reserve Banking. Federal Reserve. Central Banks. Go read the Wikipedia article on Money Creation. I understand you're 14 and the world is all new and hard to understand. You need to get educated and you don't have much time.
How is the game on ps2? I'm not in the mood right now to use a keyboard and mouse.
It doesn't matter if I'm educated or not.
The future is set in stone. There's nothing anyone can do to change it.
This is a video game. They weren't talking about the Rothschilds, they were talking about the goddamned organization called the "Illuminati" within this video game.
Paul doesn't have to die in that apartment building in Deus Ex, user. You actually can save his life.
You have to keep him alive (obviously), and only leave via the front doors (which will, of course, involve fighting your way out).
Leaving via the window, like Paul asks you too, results in his death, since the game considers you to have fled (even if you went downstairs to kill everyone, then doubled back and left through the window).
No matter how many times I played I never even bothered, I just assumed it was scripted that he would die. Should have been suspicious that he was still alive in IW.
one of the cool things in deus ex is that you don't necessarily have to do what the game spoonfeeds you
If whites are a higher tier than blacks, why couldn't jews be a higher tier than whites?
Guns sort of felt underwhelming, or at least, insofar how many levels I invested to increase their effectiveness.
Only good weapons that I felt were of any use during my gameplay were the rocket lockpick, mines and the baton.
Well, that makes a lot of sense after he kept dying on me. There should have at least been a flag to take that into account, where if they're all dead and you fled through window, he lives.
top kek, it hasn't even begun
So you din't play the game at all? Not even past the damn statue.
Good to know.
Yes, they were.
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It's a part of the game where you can have a conversation with a barman who argues in favor of china being the "new land of the free."
Are you retarded?
Oh, so now it's about the game revolving about a single thing?
Please, consider suicide.
Yes. The game is about a single thing: Saving the Day.
You're making it sound like the Rothschilds were brought up fucking at every turn, The NSF leader mentioned them ONCE.
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Where exactly did i say that the game revolves around them?
You said they din't say anything about rothschilds when they actually fucking do and are now attempting damage control because of it? Or are you just fishing for more replies?
At least attempt to appear slightly retarded instead of fully being.
Holy shit
Then why are you assuming you know what you are talking about?
Learn to read, faggot
What a reductionist post. Apply yourself.
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user.
That's politics.
woah no way thanks for the startling revelation
You're the special type of tard that needs obvious truths so be grateful to the guy.
Well, you didn't seem to realize that in your other post, so I went ahead and illuminated that little factoid for you. You're welcome, glad to clear it up.
Guys I just finished temple of trials in fo2 and I can already tell you that the whole game is about tribal shit.
Then you don't have a fucking clue what you're talking about and your opinion is meaningless. The game is around 40 hours long.
riiiiiiiiight.
I see you're as good at finishing videos as you are at beating video games.
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Ah, it was a mere jest!
this is the real ending to deus ex
I love this meme, I see it getting better every day.
for a meme to become truly eternal, we must make a shitty version drawn on mspaint that outlives the original itself and then someone makes a vector out of the shitty version
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triple parentheses paired with square brackets?
Whit kind of meme is this?
On the thumbnail the globe looks like a giant ass.
Maybe yours.
Except that doesn't happen in any of the three endings.
You ragequit about halfway through Liberty Island, didn't you? It's okay, LI is a terrible opening level and the worst part of the game.
Leave through door and he he's not dead he lives, leave through window period he dies.
If you want to make that part easier just save all your mines then place them everywhere in key locations where the enemy spawns and you'll kill pretty much almost all to all of them while the cutscene plays no less. It's stuff like that is why people like this game.
You can also be this guy and break the game so hard he both lives and dies.
Or climb the buildings by jumping on your own mines which won't explode in your presence and fully support your weight.
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oh jesus
pottery
I just push the button and dive into the closet while it shuts, and then come out when Paul stops shooting. A real hero.
There's a decent chance Paul will die if you do that. He loses his invincibility and the lobby is full of MJ12 goons who'll riddle him into swiss cheese with machine gun fire. Besides you only need 7 mines. And the cutscene plays out exactly the same except you hear a *beep beep beep* when the enemy spawns in the background then a massive explosion if you kill the MiB then the cutscene ends right when Paul is finished speaking. Even better you can spare half the MiB group that spanws in the hallway and leave a proximity mine next to the door instead so you can hear him die in the middle of his sentence. It's very satisfying to be able to do that.
Or is this the PS2 version?
would fug
I recently played several mods of for this, and honestly it seems that the game unmodded is best. Modders most of the time while adding good ideas, often add horrible ones as well. Such as how GMDX nerfs the prod and dragon sword, and has lock picking upgrading 5/10/15/50 respectively. Anyone got any mods that restore some of the lost content I have been hearing about?
DON'T SEXUALIZE THE PLANET
Now the quote is even more poignant
DX was his magnum opus. [Sheldon Pacotti]
One factor was probably the freedom he had. This was when gaming was still outside the politcal/social arena… while the technology had just begun to allow for a sprawling narrative heavy adventure.
Another factor is that he was genuinely well versed in all the conspiratorial/esoteric/occultic/politcal themes going on in that universe.
This gets a little too caught up in how the background and story of Deus Ex frame what is going on.
>it's Bob Page a fucking white male!
this tbh
wew
audible kek
Paul's ending is supposed to be the bad one.
Helios' ending is supposed to be the "good" one.
And the Illuminati is supposed to be the Neutral ending where nothing actually changes.
I always got the impression that Tracer Tong was playing Paul for a fool and that Tong wanted pure anarchy in order to expand Triad operations throughout the world- thus basically communism. Being forced to join Paul though is bullshit. I wish the original Unatco story had been completed (apparently you were supposed to meet the president as a reward).
He was a jew that happened to work at the most redpilled RPG maker on the planet Steve Jackson Games. This is pretty much the only reason why Warren is remotely redpilled. Lets also remember though he did work at Disney, and Disney no doubt blue pilled him.
But just remember that the original design document for Deus Ex that Warren wrote was very much trying to push the idea of government conspiracy, that was his idea from the get go. It got more redpilled when peole that knew what they were doing got involved. Because Warrens a bit of a dummy, he knows game design and project management but is hopeless at about everything else.
It's surprising how JC's tech is shit compared to Jensen's despite JC supposedly being more advanced.
Earth a slut tho
fuck this gay earth
Welcome ta urf
kek
Modders put in what they think is best, that's just the way it goes. Always play vanilla first for this reason.
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You'll hang first moishe.
what's the best mod for a vanilla++++ experience?
and bonus: what's the best mod for non-vanilla experience? I'm curious if there's any mods that have gone full monty and made deus ex into some sort of a survival RPG
DX was made when you didn't need to mod a game to make it playable. It was a different time.
L-lewd
what if it was man-made
Stick with the prod.
I like Ross but he's really retarded sometimes.
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IIRC you can just stay in Paul's 'secret computer bookshelf' and wait for him to kill all from UNATCO, since he's fucking invincible
Also, you just need to have him go downstairs at 'Ton's and can run through door but you have to go out through door
The black dude leader of the rebels you meet at the top of the statue names them you ignorant dumbass.
Aside from the black dude, Paul mentions them, reports mention them, books mention them and newspapers too. You never got past Liberty Island. Dumb ass.
Do you think you are any better?
GMDX changed that and the fight was pretty hard. First I used the GEP gun ever, even though I always take it.
I was looking to try GMDX, is it really as good as you're describing it to be?
It's mostly straight up improvement, with some weird choices like nerfing prod and buffing baton, even though baton was able to stun non-cyborgs with one hit even in vanilla and it doesn't require batteries.
Yes.
The AI improvements alone make it worth installing.
Embed related, there are others like it to show you the newness.
I do like his review for the most part, but he really cannot pay attention to the simplest details sometimes. And his criticism of the intro is just dumb.
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Leftypol barely cares about class disparity anymore, much like the rest of the left they have been coopted to care more about borderline-racist views of race in western societies and go into endless tirades about which flavor of communism is true communism
Half that shit isnt right-wing exclusive kid, problem is in the short time that represents your life the left got cucked to fuck into abandoning those ideas
redpill me on daedalus
If anyone doesn't keep clicking the black dude to get all his lines, then they shouldn't even talk about this game.
Or you can just hide in the closet like a bitch and let Paul deal with them then leave through the front door and not waste your LAMs.
fuck off /ledditpol/
How to spot a shitter
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You planting some plants there user ?
Considering she's let billions upon billions of humans fuck her for their own gain without any real resistance since the species attained sapience, responding with only mild and clearly-not-serious rebuffing in the form of natural disasters and plagues which we've endured just fine, I'd say she's not all that against the idea of getting boned by the local organic infestation crawling all over her. All that environmental preaching about Mother Earth being physically/emotionally hurt by man's actions over the past few decades clearly missed the part where she was happily getting railed for millennia without much protest. If she really did have an issue with us fucking her silly, we already know via science that she could just shit fury from all the volcanoes at once to make them spew sun-blocking/lung-destroying ash and solve the problem in under a single human lifespan, before going back to the usual gig with non-sapient animals and food chains like that little problem never existed once the ash clears, yet here we are.
On that note, now I really want to see one of those "Gaia/Mother Earth" "avatar of the planet" characters from preachy environmental shit like Captain Planet, except done in a way that she doesn't hate humanity/exist only as a hippy propaganda loudspeaker on legs, and not having a blind hate-erection for all of mankind's accomplishments in the past few thousand years like the eco-faggots tend to have. Considering how fucking brutal and merciless nature is on every single tier of life as we know it, and how all the shit that makes us "stick out" is just top-tier evolutionary advantages we've put to very good (and violent) use, an accurate-to-nature Mother Earth character would probably be the kind of thing tumblr faggots would hate. Hippy cunts and tumblrinas always seem to think that nature was an endless Disney movie that humans showed up in one day and summarily took a fat shit on for all time, when the reality is that we're just the biggest and best assholes that evolutionary RNG has spit out to date among a sea of lesser predecessors and kin, and it only makes sense that a sapient representation of Earth and the nature entwined with it would be closer to "Cannibal Holocaust" in terms of morality and kinship than it would be to "Bambi".
Rather than some frail little hippy princess that bitches and moans about humans polluting her while doing jack-shit about it/making a bunch of idiot kids go fix it for her lazy ass, a Mother Earth that's properly reflective of the natural world as we know it would probably be either an apathetic/detached overseer of nature that doesn't give a damn about morality or suffering and only barely notices us as the MVPs of the big game that is nature, or one hell of a sadistic cunt whose concept of flirting is puking up a fresh batch of ebola and hurling it at us as, after we spilled toxic oil all over her wettest portions in the process of sucking it out of her. The natural world doesn't give a single flying fuck about the human concepts of morality or suffering/mercy, it's all about cold efficiency and weeding out the weak to feed and make room for the strong, which means a living avatar of it and the host rock it grows on would probably either equally not give a shit due to originating from the same mold, or be a massive cunt who's directly responsible for it being that way.
At best, we're talking about a cold-hearted matriarch that cares as much about human suffering and natural disasters caused by mankind as we do about smashing ants underfoot, and for whom the prospect of warming her up with human charisma is dicey. At worst, we're talking about an entity that's either equally as cruel as we're capable of or much worse, and either likes how we're doing things just fine, or thinks we need to quit pissing around and stop being so soft if we want her respect. In either case, she sure as shit wouldn't be the "waah, humans are jizzing all over me with their technology and I can't stop it, save me human children, go fuck up your own kind for me because you have no logical reasoning" prissy little cunt that tumblr twats schlick to while a TV plays Ferngully on loop in the background. Hell, she'd probably advocate grinding those brain-damaged wastes up into paste or something to use as fertilizer/animal feed, considering they're reproductive dead-ends riddled with useless/detrimental traits, and therefore walking corpses from evolution's perspective.
"Sadistic Mother Earth abusing/being abused by humans" porn when?
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I'm liking the shit this nigger is getting for stating the truth. He's not even being particularly lefty, but since he's repudiating the Jewish conspiracy elements from Holla Forums that obviously makes him a commie shill.
Deus Ex is not making a leftist or a rightist statement. It is making a warning about a course of events which could plausibly occur if we are not wary, just as Orwell was warning with 1984, Huxley with Brave New World, and scientists were after the first atomic bombings. It is extrapolating trends such as the concentration of wealth and political power in a handful of organisations and individuals, and the fact that such power would can be used by them in a way that they never could if they had attained that power transparently.
Bob Page thinks he is saving man. He speaks of creating the 'City on the Hill'; his goal does not seem to be personal enrichment, but to create a techo-utopia beginning with his transcendence, then followed by the elevation of everyone else. He does not think he wants power (although he is probably subliminally driven by it, given how Helios rejects him as a candidate for synthesis), but instead wishes to create an efficient techno-autocracy where man can exist under benign rule and take its rightful place as emperors across the stars. He's like an Elon Musk or a Peter Thiel who see the failures of government and are trying to rationally rectify them.
The means by which he does this are key. Without transparency, with power which has been accumulated through economic means and the insidious and quiet means of control that entails, Bob Page does not pursue his programme which will effect every person on Earth with accountability or transparency. A tyrannical government at least must announce its intentions, but in Deus Ex the change taking place in the world is disguised as inexorable socioeconomic and technological forces beyond the control of the citizenry. It is in such a guise that Bob Page engages in the slaughter of billions to create his utopia. Without knowledge of his programme and with the power of money suppressing any counter-narrative, people lack even the chance to rebel against his plan to make the world in his image.
The ultimate moral of Deus Ex is a warning about the power of our economic system in an age of globalisation and consolidation. It is neither a story of the left or right, and it is not ideologically charged. All it is is a warning to us; unlike any other age, our generation will see the rise of people who wield global and universal power, yet will not be accountable for it. At this high level, the separation of economics and politics becomes impossible.
weird how neo-marxist bolsheviks like you are the ones implementing exactly what UNATCO would cum itself over right now
Not a marxist. National Conservative. My belief is the best way to prevent the unaccountable abuse of power in our age is to fight against political globalisation to ensure that power remains concentrated in institutions which are accountable, and also the capacity for these elites to control world affairs is limited by the sheer quantity of institutions. Consolidation of political power will allow the consolidation of economic power to fuse the two, so it must be fought.
So definitely not in favour of UNATCO or its MO.
I believe in a market economy, heavily supervised borders, etc. I like how a retarded stormfaggot like yourself is getting triggered and assuming all this shit about my position on sheer vapid supposition that I am anti-Holla Forums in some way.
Guess how I can tell you didn't read the rest of the thread
That is not what the autist you are commenting on was talking about though. He wrote that wall of text in response the mere mention of a lot of content in game aligning with Holla Forums, which it does lean towards based on
and . And his argument against it was that because it isn't to do with Jewish reptillians therefore it isn't even remotely related to Holla Forums. Then after that he simply interpreted the game in terms of class warfare, thus very clearly showing himself to be leftist and thus likely to be Holla Forums which is further suggested by the previously mentioned butthurt over Holla Forums.
Your defence of a complete and utter retard seems to suggest otherwise.
But I did, but I guess I must be wrong for disagreeing.
Does class warfare have to be something the left has a monopoly on? Do Right Wing militias being the ones fighting the consolidation entail that the game is rightist? I think you're mistaken.
The NSF may be right in opposing Unatco, Page, and MJ12, but they are not the only people opposing the conspiracy. Silouhette does, as well, and they are some of the most lefty motherfuckers conceivable; they literally regurgitate Gramscian Marxist rhetoric in the propaganda you see in the game. The point that the game is making is not a point as to how the right necessarily is the defender of a nation against consolidation, but those that are ideologically marginalised are more inclined to fight in virtue of their greater commitment to their ideals because they value something different than the simple materialist improvement favoured by the 'mainstream' inculcated by the consolidated economic-political machine run by Page.
So that very machine runs caricatures of both; the NSF are characterised as evil bigots to try and paint nationalist opposition as something coming from the idiotic hick dregs of a society to the cattle of the nation, and the Silhouette as a bunch of bohemian stoner hippies. Indeed, there's hints of the game of the fact that the tactic of the machine dividing the two group's into left and right works to make it harder for them to work together against Page and MJ12 since they both believe they are incompatible.
Ironically, I think the Holla Forums and Holla Forums shit falls into this trap. It's in the interests of a consolidated machine to encourage ideological bifurcation to ensure that a unified coalition does not form to stop them. Rather than seeing anti-Unatco shit as a movement unto itself, vested interests convince them that there is a moderate centre against various extremists who hold prima facie unforgivable positions.
That way neither the people support rebelling (nor are even aware of the true nature of the rebellion), and the rebels identify in such a way that makes collaboration impossible. Divide and conquer. Rather than listen and identify mutual grievances and the true source of the problem, factions instead focus on their own crusades that do not hit at the core of the problem.
We think we're free in thinking when we deploy ideological labels. But then you have to ask who actually made that label in the first place.
Thanks for confirming that happiness is truly dead in this world, I guess. Here's another dead dream to match your own:
>there will never be porn of Gaia strapped into a human-engineered fuck-machine solely to humiliate and break her, which also runs on gasoline somehow rather than electric or etc. just to make it even worse for her
>there will never be followup porn where she's clearly lost it after that and ended up as a lewd amalgamation of all the Captain Planet villains mentally, becoming greedy, gluttonous and altogether corrupted
That I can understand but what you just said isn't what the retard you were defending was trying to argue, he was simply using part of that to proclaim his own superiority. In fact he made it very clear himself in the tl;dr.
He isn't saying it is bipartisan, in fact he is saying the exact opposite of that. He is saying that the game is Holla Forums and that anyone saying that Holla Forums has even the slightest part in it is wrong. That is why you are a retard for defending him, saying "oh but we are all equally affected" does not dismiss this. And he wasn't saying that to disprove someone saying it was 100% Holla Forums and noone else either, he was trying to shit on a single sentence in the OP that he damn well knew the intended meaning of.
I took that to mean the concerns raised by Holla Forums without the prescription. I actually misread the "Holla Forums has no basis at all" part as "Holla Forums has no stronger basis at all".
>there will never be a finale where captain planet and the planeteers cure her with the power of eco-dick
see
It makes some improvements, but also some serious fuck ups that can make the game very annoying. Just try it, if you don't like it just uninstall it. I hated it though
The UN is a superstate. Who do you think keeps joke dictators propped up while they let foreign corporations mine the earth bare? UN troops have been bailing tyrants out of revolutions for years. It's easiest for them in Africa because africans are pretty much the worst at looking out for their own long-term interests, and people turn a blind eye to the globalist shit because it's the dark continent.
And like any state, there's shitloads of infighting over dollarydoos. 'Neo-colonialism' is mainly a buzzword for leftist cucks to chant while they engage in their masturbatory, ideological self-flagellation, but it's also something that actually happens. In Africa it's mainly China, France and the US fighting like like starved dogs over a corpse for mineral resources.
France had the best foot in the door thanks to its colonies (if you don't know what a CFA franc is you have some reading to do - pay close attention to what their value is, who issues them, and how much control the issuers have over their value).
The US have the most muscle to sling, and can propagandise their citizens into supporting an open war easier if needed. US intel is generally better what they do than the French, despite them having the cultural and linguistic advantage.
The Chinese, however, are trusted less than whites by blacks, but operate on a scale so far beyond their competitors that they're steadily winning the game. It works in their favour that Chinese bribing is the closest thing to African bribing, and they rarely ever waste time and money dressing up kickbacks as charity.
Speaking of the UN
George Soros is becoming the new Illuminati. He's not even the richest or most influential person pulling strings.
I would say that he is pretty rich, it takes a fair amount of resources to crash an entire economy just to win a bet
I see.
As someone who's never replayed Deus Ex that doesn't sound too bad.
The prod nerf sounds kind of dumb but the dragon sword was always pretty OP.
While those nerfs seem kind of unnecessary, it seems to be a net positive.
I've been wanting to replay that game so I might give it a shot.
Lockpicking complaint sounds kind of dumb to me, since anyone who's played it long enough or bothered to ask where people who play it regularly gather will know about the bug where you only use one lockpick or hacking tool so the point is kind of moot?
It's worth a try, it fixes a buttload of things, swimming is now athletics and ties in to the new vaulting ability that makes climbing objects easier, it's also tied into combat and running which uses stamina, you will probably now take points in the skill formerly known as swimming. The mod also adds in a stealth skill which increases the speed you move while crouching or walking which greatly helps with stealth knock outs, there are also now perks for all skills, at max level in multitools and lockpicking you can take a perk that increases their power to 100% of a lock, there is also a perk with multitools that lets you use them at a range long enough to make them a viable way to take down cameras.
GMDX greatly improves non-lethal runs adding in new rubber rounds for shotguns, a new shock round for the crossbow and makes gas grenades knock out opponents at max level of demolitions and it takes opponents down faster with a larger blast radius, you can also equip weapons as a sidearm that allows you to use them with a single button press instead of having to change, but only certain weapons can be equipped this way.
Weapon mods and augs have been greatly improved, you can now mod the Gep with a scope that gives launches a remote controlled rocket, but it's a cunt to control, they should probably fix that, you can also give it a laser mod and the rockets go to the lasers current point like in Half Life, some augs have been changed to be passive which makes them more viable, the strength one becomes infinitely mroe useful when you are able to pick up heavy objects and launch them at enemies and objects, you can even lift up and throw enemies at other enemies which blows them to pieces.
There are also small improvements to the map with new secrets and pickups to find and in some cases a new route that makes certain augs/skills that go underused more valuable. The map modifications aren't as blatantly ugly or significant as Revision which is great don't touch Revision just play GMDX.
it should be illegal to change textures in games like that.
They aren't too bad, but it's nowhere near as egregious as what Revision adds.
games have an intended look for a reason
I get what you mean, and I somewhat agree but Deus Ex was pretty ugly even for it's time, although my biggest issue is the way world geometry and clutter is used, the texture work is actually quite good aside from Navarre and Hermann who have uv errors, the visuals have kind of grown on me over the years though. I don't use the hideous HDTP models, their weapon models are nice though, well some of them.
They look even worse in game thanks to the character animations and lip syncing.
I actually feel like they actively tried to make the first locations as bland as they could.
I mean shit Hong Kong looks great and there's a ton of small details.
It's just New York that looks like trash
I agree, Deus Ex looks really bad. HL1, Unreal, games several years older look a lot better. It gets even worse when you think about how Halo and max payne were right around the corner.
Sounds good lad.
I'll give it a whirl.
Why would someone want that from a design perspective?
liberty island is a very interesting setting, it's just really poorly done. Interestingly, majora's mask did something similar - showed something horrifying but really stressed what it meant to the player far better. The statue of liberty could have used a bit more emphasis.
I do agree with that and that's sad because I actually worked on HDTP and NV. The better gun models tended to be the Sniper Rifle, The Assault Rifle and the standard Pistol. I wasn't an overall fan of the rest. The Gunther and Anna models for HDTP were so contested over on the forums, fights were happening on a monthly basis, even the gun models were. People just didn't give enough artistic freedom- which is why you got the result you got. AlexDs characters whilst fantastic had issues because he left the project over all the bullshit that was being thrown at him from the community. So he quit. Which is why the characters were never completed. HDTP has never been released in its final form. By now it probably never will be.
GMDX was in my opinion one of the best things to come out of the community besides TNM and I feel really proud to have been included with both mods as both mods use HDTP and New Vision. I sorta miss those days, but nearly all of us went onto much better things especially in the games industry.
I only wish we had managed to get the Unreal 2 stuff working because it was looking really amazing and would've addressed those issues you brought up.
I'm just thankful we got out what we did. HDTP almost didn't happen.
Yeah, the buildings are ultra bland single texture no real architectural detail plain as fuck walls with windows and the street layout is really poor, the Ton is oddly shaped and has more extrenal floors based on the amount of windows than actual floors inside, and the apartments themselves, the Underworld tavern is larger than the space it occupies on the street and the roads and paths are all the same colour, obviously there's intentional design choices between Hong Kong and New York with Hong Kong being full of life and New York being drab and dead but they could have done a much better job, also Hong Kong does a really nice thing where you can view the underground mall from the waterways and the waterways from the underground mall to add a layer of consistency, I kind of wish there was a back way into the Lucky Money Club via the waterways, and if there is fuck me.
Also U… Unatco has really poor layout, it honestly doesn't feel like the main HQ it's supposed to be, the layout is poor as fuck, and the prison area just goes off on this arm to nowhere, digging the site would have been a pain, and then there's the issue of the MJ12 centre underneath it, I still haven't figured out how they get MJ12 stuff in and out of that space.
I think most of it lies within the animation, I actually think the texture work in Deus Ex original is really good, the people are nicely detailed and have a clear cut style behind them, the people in Half Life are ugly as sin. Deus Ex really fails in terms of it's animation, holy shit it has some horrible animation, everyone walks throwing their arms out like they are trying to dance and in cutscenes characters seem to move their heads to rigid pre set positions instead of a smooth alignment based on a focus point, then there's the lip syncing which while kind of iconic is really whack, there's no interpolation between positions which I kind of doubt was an engine limitation. The actual pool of animations is really small, if they really wanted to breathe life into the game they'd have things like smoking, eating, leaning on counters, peering into dark spots and a slew of others for conversations.
That sounds pretty bad, at least the weapons made it, the texture work on many of the human models is really hideous, I did some quick mock ups of some of the characters myself just because I was somewhat dissapointed by what other artists have created, I even hated all official appearances of Bob Page and JC/Paul Denton I don't feel like they adequately captured the characters but others would probably feel the same about my own work.
Unreal 2 stuff?
No idea, user here makes a good point. New York and liberty island are basically monocolor, they're just really boring to look at.
Then you go to Hong Kong and you not only have interesting architecture, but you have colors, lights a shitton of visually interesting stuff
something tells me deus ex was designed very linearly. Later areas in the game being designed as development went on and early areas designed to make the game easier and teach the player, such as with wide open spaces where the AI works absolutely horrendously, shows how limited the AI is. But also introducing things like status effects, I think there's two or three different enemies on liberty island. It dumps a lot on to the player, but essentially they get everything. Harvey Filben has a bad placement, the docks could have been better laid out. I'd like to see a strong redesign of it.
Also just throwing this out there, since this is a deus ex thread technically, the technological paradox in human revolution is doing horrendous things to the series.
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This right here is why New York is designed well in my mind, if emphasized constantly that it's a shit place to be in with an undercurrent atmosphere of oppression while China is one of the last truly free places left hence the vibrant colors and life given to it to contrast. it's a nice touch, of course New York looking dull and boring is an acceptable risk in my mind.
The game as based on "What if the conspiracy theorists were right about everything?"
Turns out the conspiracy theorists were right about everything.
Alright, this is starting to piss me off.
I'm playing the Game of the Year edition on Steam, with Deus Exe to smooth things out.
No matter WHAT FUCKING RENDERER I pick, it ALWAYS TAKES A MILLION YEARS TO OPEN ANY MENU. Want to quickload? Enjoy waiting for 15 seconds. Want to pause? Enjoy waiting for 15 seconds. It's bullshit and I want to know how I can fix it.
I'm still annoyed that they decided to cut the option to remain with UNATCO, I really liked Hermann and Navarre and felt pretty bad betraying them.
The steam version was messed up, but the way the data is stored there will always be loading but it's always been a couple seconds for me? Try turning off vsync if you have it on. Finally try using Kentie's launcher that solves a lot of issues.
Bad taste in friends, friendo.
What the fuck, is this board getting invaded by /leftycuck/ plebbitors?
This.
Nah, just goons.
It took me 33 years for me to see the truth
Ever so clear I was too young
I couldn't articulate myself the right way son
But now let me break it down, pass it all around
This is not a theory, lift the spirits, see his spirit
They wanna put me in a straightjacket in a padded room
And tell the world there's 12 monkeys so they can be confused
Illuminati want my mind, soul and my body
Secret Society trying to keep their eye on me
(((>>10532644)))
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What makes Holla Forums "(((pol)))"? (((ce6410)))
Nothing, it's a blatant shitpost.
How is it "blatant shitpost"? It has great political discussion, at least be honest, kike.
Are you fucking retarded, I laid out the most blatant bait ever and you took it, now you're mad posting retarded infographics and shit I don't care for, I don't care about the jews.
What's next bro, are you pic related?
Conspiracy tards are retarded and your conspiracy about the origin of conspiracy theory only makes it worse.
I can't tell if you are a plebbitor or a Holla Forums.
Pic related, you know what to do.
>inb4 but the news don't say that u stupid!!
wew lad
Yeah man, it's not like unscrupulous subservient white goyim are what makes the kike minority powerful, god damn, maybe Holla Forums shouldn't oppose cultural subvertors like you and all the perverse white millionares bending the knee because they're white too!
Was europe being invaded at the time the game came out? No? Was the cultural enviroment completely degenerated to control the masses with hedonism and make them pay tribute to homosexual jews? No? there you go dipshit why would the game be about any of that if the social climate wasn't any of that?, now fuck off back to your oxymoron of a board.
wow
How do I disable vsync? not seeing any options
Their alligeance to degenerates and evil doers as long as they held the correct political beliefs.
Holla Forums is shit since the (((alt-right))) attracted the brainless redditors and normalfag cucks.
this is a weak justification for what is frankly hideous, unappealing and unengaging design. Speaking as a new yorker myself, the way its portrayed in deus ex is horrifying. Especially thinking like someone fresh out of the 90s, but they don't portray it remotely well. It's practically just a low-density recreation of liberty island, hell's kitchen and battery park. I'm not saying put this shit front and center and shove it in the players face, but I use majora's mask as an example of a game that puts you in the situation of something horrifying and doesn't even tell you to look up.
i think you mean both our Holla Forums and cuckchan Holla Forums only,there's still a another imageboard but i'm not going to tell the name due to newfags.
Even though I want to be there, it's better that way.
Those pics having nothing to do with Jews. And the second one is an old Gamergate pic.The final pic is about memes.
I don't remember and I think it involves changing the settings of your graphics card so just skip that and use Kentie's launcher kentie.net
Have you seen the version of New York from Revision, it's much more sprawly but I don't much like the layout, I do however enjoy the addition of more content to explore, the neon billboards and signs can suck the long end of my dick though.
Revision is almost exclusively shit.
Are you telling me the moon landing actually was a hoax?
That certainly paints Buzz Aldrin's reaction to the claim in a very different light, if it's true.
I know you are a newfag that doesn't know what Holla Forums is but Holla Forums is filled with conspiracy tards.
Sorry no one with a brain believes in chemtrails.
Wait, so Chemtrails, ayylmoas and the moon landing being fake are all true? Oh wait you are an idiot.
Well technically according to Deus Ex we cloned ayylmaos. For chemtrails well that's as easy as looking up in the sky in the areas chemtrails are believed to happen and see for yourself if planes are flying around covering the sky with streaks of clouds for whatever reason. For the lunar landing, well I've come to the conclusion that the guys believing it to be a hoax are throwing shit at a wall and hoping it sticks eventually so they can rub it in people's faces when something finally sticks. Despite the points they've made and some photo editing has strong evidence overall they don't just sit down and use some actual crunch and science to back their shit up so it's much harder to take them seriously.
They also expect you to be able to do things like see stuff on the moon when the lander is like 9 meters in width from the surface of the earth with a shitty telescope.
Nigga you just gotta shine a laser at it and it'll bounce back off the reflector put down by the apollo missions.
No, you can't use a handheld laser, not even one of those nice green ones. But scientists use it to measure the precise distance between the earth and the moon all the time.
yes the HDTP fragmented, we split off into 2 teams. Deus Ex New Vision and Deus Ex Reborn. Reborn was going to port everything to Unreal 2, they had got a fully working UI into the engine as well as several of HDTPs characters and advanced character rigs as a test. The project was abandoned though due to a lack of interest (as by then everyone was crying for the game to be ported to UDK/Unreal3).
The issue with projects like this is most of us were doing it in Highschool, so we had all the time in the world, plus it was the prime time of modding. Now modding is a joke. But back then everyone wanted to mod so you had a pretty big pool of talent.
I'm also shocked at how few people talk about the PS2 version of Deus Ex. The level design is raddically different from the PC version, JCs model and texture were updated and the game allowed gun deadzoning (ie. moving the gun independent of the camera). Its a very different game and you rarely see anyone cover it. But Hells Kitchen is very very different, you wouldn't recognise it.
I don't talk about it because I generally don't see much of a point, and I played that version first. The most notable differences I can remember is New York and the Hong Kong sections but my opinion on the matter is kind of moot because it's been so long since I played it there's a very good chance that I've inadvertently superimposed the PC level designs over the PS2 version. I didn't like the dead zoning much though, I found it clunky and annoying half the time so i stopped using it.
I often wondered what a full UNATCO campaign would have looked like. It would be interesting if it had explored different themes, and left the player feeling like they were the "good guys" who saved the world at the end.
It would have been funny to read through message boards and seen people who had chosen the different paths arguing with each other over the philosophies of their choices.
It seems the UNATCO route would have been significantly shorter, more like an easter egg. Either that, or it would have been hamfistedly remerged with the normal route at some point. What would you do in the UNATCO route anyhow? Assassinate more Illuminati aligned leaders after Lebedev and get a head pat from Bob after he becomes a god?
The fuck is wrong with you.
Liking Hermann I understand, but Navarre? She was a straight up cunt who wouldn't hesitate to kill you.
She was tsundere. She just needed to hear the right phrase and she was all over Denton.
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More like the combat bro who would still follow orders. She gets friendly when you start being as murderous as she is.
Donald Trump will make Design Reboot real.
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