Owning the Holocaust

That illustrates the strategy perfectly.

As a segment of history, people are willing to compartmentalize it. By owning it, we're removing its power as a weapon and it becomes "history".

No

Shut the fuck up kikes

This is some weak ass shilling.

Are you seriously trying to claim that George Lincoln Rockwell was controlled opposition? Wew lad. Gas yourself.

The purpose isn't to please jews by any means. I suspect that it would enrage them, actually.

There's something gratifying about being able to respond to, "The six gorrilian!"
with
"yes, and?"

It puts them in a position where they must use violence against a force more powerful than them, which is precisely something the jew fears.

This does have memetic potential, but I'm also in the camp that favors truth above all. Polite sage.

Crispy or extra crispy?

Fuck off, kike shill

Pic related shows that going after communists is just going to lead to extremely large numbers of Jews being caught by default. Its like going after beaners if you want illegal aliens. Of course theres more non-Jewish communists who were able to hide, as there are haitians and shit who dont look like beaners, but are illegal, and dont get arrested as much as their beaner illegal counterparts I would assume.. until they start raping people of course. Maybe that balances it out in the US.

Communists were rounded up and executed in the east. Not millions of them, the official numbers only suggest like 400k, and those are overblown themselves. Its probably like 200k to Einsatzgruppen, 300k in camps (official German numbers) primarily through starvation and typhus. No organized effort to exterminate Jews.

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Both.

If confronted with accusations of holohoax exposure simply paraphrase this:

"The facts show that the holocaust was either over exaggerated or never happened, and even if it did happen so what? Who cares? The jews deserve it, if I where to read you the talmud, or explain that Karl Marx led 100 million souls to early graves you'd agree with me that it's a good thing the holocaust happened."

Cucking to the holocaust shows weakness

Denying it will destroy your reputation and financial life.

Simply use holocaust discussion as a weapon, to where you win either way.

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And by the official Einsatgruppen numbers, I mean the numbers the wikikikes have attributed to them, to the combined divisions of the Einsatzgruppen. Theres like A B C and D, and between them they claim something like 400k. Places like Babi Yar can be cut from like 130k down to only 10-30k also (and go off coerced confessions, Babi Yar on the word of a single man alone), so that 400k is overblown as I said.

From my experience, it's impossible to even entertain the notion that we should call the jew by a different name. No natsoc will do it.

It's an interesting strategy from a political perspective. For example, if you were to re-enact anti-commie laws in the US, you would also shoah countless jews.

Well, personally Im not saying to avoid calling out the Jew. Obviously the Jew is cancer by blood, and there are no good Jews. That goes in line with the rest of our racial beliefs (which are founded in science) - that races are not equal, and Jews are a parasitical race. Communism itself is Jewish, Bolshevism a mask for Judaism.

It's better to take a David Irving stance on the issue and say that the numbers were massively exaggerated, instead of outright denying it, then proceed to
It seems more honest to me and (supposedly) more rational to your average normalfag (i could be wrong, though).

You dont waste a vast amount of resources deporting the Jews, only to exterminate them less than a decade later. Jews were put to work in camps, because they were Jews, and they were deported, for being Jews. The ones who were shot in the east were shot as communists, not for being Jews.

Kill yourself, kike.

The holohoax narrative includes claims that ebil Natzees were murdering babies. When employing your strategy, how do you respond to the obvious responds

Denying the holocaust will end your career yes.
Explaining to people the existential crimes that the jews have enacted on man-kind will not end your career.

The Holocaust never happened, never for one second think it did. The white race are not like the nigger, the arab or the chink. We don't just put sentient-beings down because we're bored or for no reason.

The death of a kike is a release of evil from this earth, even the most narly jew would agree that kikes are in-human, so you can't murder that which is an animal.

Never happened, never even heard that claimed before. Ive heard some stupid bullshit. Someone I know suggested they killed everyone who didnt have blonde hair, when Hitler wasnt blonde. Kids were split from families I think, but not executed. Tell them to provide a source, and then shred their source.

Never heard it claimed outside of that propaganda meme going around from a movie that had no basis in reality.

The entire backbone of this movement is the truth and nothing but. Every time the left is caught in a lie, no matter how small, they become a laughing stock. There's no reason to lie.

If you've never heard the claim that children were killed, then you've obviously never discussed the matter with a normalfag. There are countless examples of jews who claim the ebil Natzees murdered children. It's part of the official holohoax narrative that jewish children were brought to camps (see: Ann Frank), those too weak or young to work were often gassed immediately (pics related), and that children were subjected to medical experimentation (pics related). You can't avoid this issue, normalfags believe the NSDAP had jewish children killed.

But more to the point, OP is advocating for embrace over deny. But that doesn't apply to claims of killed jewish children, only killed jewish adults? If that's the case, then the hypothetical National Socialist advocate employing this strategy will still be placed on the defensive, as if he'd denied it entirely.

Systematical killing mandated by the German government never happened.
What happened was the (((Allies))) bombing the railroads which carried food, medicals and other supplies to the Eastern camps. Many died from disease and starvation.
Now, after that happened, the Soviets went there, seized the camps and manufactured fake "evidence" and this is where we are now.
The real number of people who died in all of this might not even reach 100,000.

Fuck off, we're winning because we don't lie, we have truth on our side.

Shit thread. Truth triumphs.

Nazis were only starving the Commies by removing one of their main sources of protein. It's well known they eat their own young.

Fake, diaries written by the father, fraudulent, admitted by the Anne Frank Foundation.

No gas chambers ever existed. Pic related.

What proof do they have? Nuremberg anything is total trash. Coerced confessions, judged by a commie with absolutely no credibility etc. Lampshades tier. I would like to actually know what was done with the kids though, they were split from families and sent somewhere else Im pretty sure.

tbh this narrative above has occured to me as beneficial in some ways while distasteful and shallow in other ways. Owning it would open up normies since many hate soros already. The socialists get to laugh off 100million plus broken eggs while we dance around the issue. Denying makes some in the middle who are too heavily indoctrinated to see you as crazy in the first place. In my experience naming the jew is a step easier than denying the holohoax. If I dont have to broach the subject I dont. If they agree to their destruction now who gives 2 fucks about what they initially believe about then?

My only regret is this is a tool leftism uses. They have indoctrinated people so heavily though. The soros redpill along with the 1% redpill is usually enough.

Yeah, but see:

I'd like OP to address this, since he's the one advocating embrace rather than deny. You're just suggesting we deny it happened, which is the default position on Holla Forums. There is nothing novel about that strategy.

fuck off with this faggotry, you're just as bad as them because not only are you accepting the holocaust, you're subconsciously teaching everyone that the holohoax was real

Its a partial deny. Yes, communists were shot in the east for being violent revolutionaries, who had done things like laying mines through Ukrainian cities to hinder advance. Partisans. The Jews were sent to camps, to pay back their debt to the country. Thats something we own, and we own like 100k-200k executions of partisans in the east. We dont own gas chambers or any of that horseshit. We own what actually happened. We dont deny things that we actually did, we deny what we didnt do, and admit what we did, because it was right and necessary.

I've never embraced or denied the world war two sacrifice by fire. There's no way to prove it didn't happen to someone who believes wholeheartedly that it happened, even if you present to them a logical irrefutable case with an excess of evidence. Simply entering into that arena means you've played into the hand of the Jew. It's a fabrication, a farce, a story, a fib, a tall tale. Talking about it benefits them. Even at suggestion that you deny it, and you lose a majority of the public audience.

Avoiding the topic entirely even when it's brought up or brushing it aside to point out current relevant details infuriates them to no end.

I've always liked 'The holocaust never happened, but it should have, and hopefully it will.'

I often do this, and it works well.

That's not what OP is advocating. I'm challenging OP to counter the responses he would receive from normalfags if he employed the strategy he's advocating.

You're going about this the wrong way OP, but you have the right idea. I used semantics to my advantage that in actually, it's not even disingenuous and got normalfags to realize that the holohoax has more to it than just two sides to it. This technique has been so effective that I almost feel like I'm cheating when I do this. Allow me to demonstrate:

Normalfags are accustomed to hearing the word "holohoax exposure," so much so, that you see this in jew laws and bills. Jews hinge all of their holohoax exposing laws on the term holohoax exposure that you have to stop and think what that means. The term holocaust itself is invalid as it is a greek term and the jews basically stole it and slapped on their death camp myth. But that only brings me to my next and main point.

Normalfags which are unaccustomed to studying the holohoax -and thus do not know the ins and outs of the myth or otherwise they would already know it's fake- believe by virtue of the fact that they possess simpleton logic that holohoax exposure, and by extension holohoax exposers, means the act of or someone who does not believe that 6 gorillion jews died, etc. Again, stop and think, is that really what we do? Jews did die, but they weren't the only ones, but the reason they died is the part that's the lie. We're not denying that anyone died, we're exposing a half-century-plus old fraudulent victim-card creating narrative that the jews used for many reasons the least of which was to make money but to stigmatize NatSoc Germany.

So how do you go about using this? You tell normalfags and explain to them like they're five that there's three sides to "holocaust debate," those that believe no one died (specifically name them deniers), those that believe the drama plus savageness plus obscenely unrealistic death toll, and those that believe that "people" did die but their deaths have been used to make money (buzzword: profit) and demonize the "nazis" and this side just wants the truth of the matter. Then immediately explain that many good people have had their reputations and lives ruined because they just want the truth because so many people have made tons of money off of the drama. Once you explain that to them, they will be so receptive to learning more that you the rest is easy.

Immediately after that, begin dispensing easily digestible redpills. Name people like David Irving, the International Red Cross death toll, the "death camps" were on the side that communist russia took over, that the survivors stories directly contradict each other, mention the failure in the logic behind the alleged methods of killing plus torture. That's just the start. After this they will no longer look at it the same way because they had been so used to a false dichotomy.

tl;dr: tell normalfags that holocaust realists get the wrong reputation because holocaust profiteers group them in with "holohoax exposers" who are (insert buzzwords) disinformation weirdos that believe no one died and the camps literally did not exist or something. Once they realize that there's 3 groups of people and one just wants the truth so they can expose the profiteers, they will want to know more.

Goddamn word filters fucked up my effortpost. Holocaust d3nial got turned into holocaust exposure when the context of me using quotes and italics was important so I could show how normalfags perceive these terms. Why do we even have word filters in the first place? This isn't Holla Forums.

hòlòcàùst dènial wordfilters to holohoax exposure.

Forget it. There is nothing more important than the truth. I could never own such a horrible lie.

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If you aren't making that appear stupid and neurotic, then you're helping the kike.

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piss off you faggot shill

I just say 'the holocaust was not a holocaust'
the holocaust refers to the just persecution and removal of kikes from German territories, which was not a holocaust in any definition of the term. this also exposes them to jewish doublethink.

No, the holohoax is made to shame white people, that is why it I so important to deny it. Or at least stop remembering it.
It constantly makes white people feel bad if they aren't cucked

One of the methods I use is any time someone brings it up, I act like Ive never heard of it, it never happened anyway. If they continue to push, I ask questions to poke holes in all of the 'facts' they're laying on me cause the mainline story is absurd. Most people give up and look at me strange but some tell me they never thought of it that way.

There's this jew I have to deal with on a regular basis cause of work and like 6 months ago he brought up the holocaust, I told him "Id never heard of it". He took the opportunity to 'educate' me on how they round them up into 'death camps' and 'gas showers', I asked "why didnt they just shoot them?" He rubbed his hands and said "cause they are pure evil". This method does not work on kikes because it just gives them a chance to talk about how theyve been fake persecuted and they just make more shit up. The funny thing is, every time I'd see him and he'd bring it up, I just pretend that previous conversations never happened. He started to get really pissed, so angry in fact, he ended up giving me a 45 dollar book on the subject, which I promptly trashed. Next time I saw him he asked if I read the book, I said "Which book?", "The one I gave you.", "I dont remember you giving me a book." After that he had enough of me and anytime I see him he wont even say 'hello'.

One of the main problems with holohoax exposure in general is that it's the field in which the CIAniggers have spread psyops the most. Let me explain:
They have intentionally spread "fake" memes to let people think that the holocaust is fake for X reason, even though X reason is clearly false and Y reason, which is actually true, gets omitted.
Out of the top of my head, i remember (((Joshua Ryne Goldberg))) spreading this kind of disinfo.

cool story bro

To each his own, but i don't like your tactic because you still avoid the main problem. My favourite tactic is making fun of them for believing it.
For example: "Lol, you still believe in that shit? Skinlamps, soap, gas showers? Are you still in middleschool or something?"
Like they believe in santa claus. Normies have a big ego and always want to be correct. They feel insulted and want to prove you wrong, and in return you bombard them with questions like "How did they prevent the gas from leaking through the wooden dors in the shower?", "Why did they use the pesticide instead of an actual nerve gas?" or "Why would they camouflage gasrooms as showers in the first place? Did they expect russians to discover them beforehand?", "If they planned to kill them fro the beginning, why didn't they just cut their throats but went out of their way to ship them somewhere with trains?", "What about the non-jews, why is there so much fixation on jews?", ""Death camps" were only found in Soviet territory, who were led by jews, you wouldn't think that they would make it up to discredit their enemies?". The longer they try to prove the holocaust correct, the more questions you ask in return.

Another eye opener is when you say "Did you expect people to throw cottonballs at each other? War and murder go hand in hand. Also why is it that people like you never mention Churchil deliberately bombing civilians or Russian gulags and their rapes through half of Europe."