Nipponese Learning Thread - Flight Plan Edition 2

Manga in general. A lot of it tends to be fairly easy to read.

Also, download KanjiTomo and thank me later, homo.

Even better.

Anyone have a recommendation for an Anki deck for some advanced vocabulary?

I make my own vocabulary deck, but I like having a pre-made deck in addition to it so that even when I'm too lazy to add new cards I can hopefully still learn something each day. Just finished the deck I'd been doing though.

Plus for includes Japanese definitions & example sentence.

What are the best pre-Iris Ateliers?

上げ

バンプ～ :^)

何だ？！この場合はアニメを全く似ていますよ…

but seriously, what the hell just happened? It's not even like I'm the only one that thought what she was getting at was lewd

what should I do?

A)　手を持つ
B)　抱く

wwwwww

Did anyone ever try that Influent game?

I gave it a go when I was starting out and didn't really retain much from it. Then going back to it now it feels a bit useless.

Are there any other places where you can get manga besides the reading list?

Also, do you guys have any recommendations?

Everyone suggests Yotsuba&! if you're starting out. Azumanga Daiou is pretty good, too. But it doesn't use furigana.

I really liked Shirokuma Cafe, myself. The Japanese is quite simple and Shirokuma likes to do "puns" which are fun little vocab trips.

I got it from a bundle and tried it like a year ago. It doesn't seem bad, but I'd rather learn while playing a real game instead of a walking simulator.

how do you nigs even type in nipponese

If you're using Windows, installing the Japanese language via control panel automatically gives you the windows IME.

Quick google search turned up this: coscom.co.jp/learnjapanese801/install_ime.html

Download Google IME, then press Alt + ~ to switch between English and Japanese typing modes.

Nipponese keyboard, though more likely IME

上げ

So far so good on the translation. Not the most direct, but definitely accurate to the original.

上げデース☆

I stopped actively learning after learning all the kana, and since then I've just been passively absorbing shit by being a weeb. I know a few kanji and a decent-ish amount of vocab but I have no idea how to string sentences together because I know almost nothing about grammar.

I wish I wasn't such a lazy cunt since I'm currently a NEET and don't really have anything better to do, but I can't bother studying. Is there something similar to namasensei's lessons, where it's actually presented as lessons and not just big infodumps? Maybe if I make a schedule I can keep to it but I need that info to be doled out in lessons in order to do that.

learning a language takes a long time. I don't have the motivation. I am a lazy fuck. Japanese is said to be especially tedious to learn as far as languages are concerned. I'll never leave my basement, so there's no way I'll ever go to Japan. Anime isn't real. There are dozens of excuses why. That's why.

Japanese is a shit tier language.
They need to cater to ME, not the other way around. The master does not learn his slave's language. We fucked you up before, we can do it again.

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Are there any discord groups for people wanting to practice Japanese?
Asking for a friend.

Sure thing user.

You realize doujin pretty much means indie, and has nothing to do with sex, right? The term you want is eromanga.

いかんです

Try Imabi or Tae Kim to get the gist of the grammar and just read and listen to a lot Japanese books and audio to absorb new grammar concepts and vocabulary. There should be a link for the readings in the OP.

Personally I don't use Anki, Genki, Heisig, or whatever. Just a grammar reference and TONS of reading and listening materials. Grammar is easy, but it's probably because I already know Korean.

Tae Kim pls leave

I figured out how to change the language on Steam games. (right-click on game in library > properties) Now, if only I could read it…

I can pretty much read Pokemon, though.

Down Down　いかんです

Is Dragon's Dogma one of those games where save files are region locked or can you go between English and Nipponese without starting a new game?

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All the more reason to learn the language.

( ˘ω˘)ｽﾔｧ．．．

I really like cute jpop songs.
font.heartx.info/crying_meiling/
you can find the mp3 in the page source.

I used my English characters and played just fine. I went to character edit for the Nipponese names for fun, but you keep the English names otherwise.

oh, the screenshots are from before I changed the names. sorry for possible confusion.

That's an extreme generalization

Ah, I have a bit of a question about Anki. I use the android version so I'm not sure whether this applies to the PC program. I have a deck for RTK and each day 20 new cards would be added, that was the default and it's a fine pace for me so I left it there. In the past couple days it has not added any new cards automatically, the cards have all been reviews. I have to manually add the 20 if I want to review the next 20 kanji. Is this just how Anki works? Should I stick to what it wants me to review without manually adding any, or should I just add a new 20 every day?

That's good to know.

That's not how it should work. Maybe your reviews are limited so it's not adding any new cards past that? Your review limit should be something high like 9999 so that it doesn't limit your reviews per day.

Thank you, I've changed that option

I would like to try learning vocabulary through virtual novels, but I have 0 experience. Where do I get virtual novels and is there anything special I need to get Japanese ones to work?

I'm at a beginner level or wherever you place the pic related anime 12歳。～ちっちゃなムネのトキメキ～.

That title sounds like a lewd loli game. Is it?

Playing this game in Nipponese. It's still as fun as I remember it (and the voice acting is way better).

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Where the did "you can't learn Japanese" girl even originate from?

web.archive.org/web/20140217123114/http://japanese.lingualift.com/?

Interesting.

バンプ～

I didn't realise the July JLPT results were available online already.

I passed! Only N5 but it's one step forward. I did pretty shit though 81/180.
Vocab A
Grammar B
Reading B

I'm lucky the percentage required to pass is so low for N5. My best excuse is I've only been learning since December and half arsed most of it until a month before the exam, and on top of that did 0 listening practice.

Must work harder.

At least I know I can do it now; time to get my brain back on the grindstone. Recommend me some celebration music; I couldn't have done it without you guys (or at least without the guide in the OP).

Where'd you do the test, user? I've got a drill book for N5/N4 that I haven't touched because I haven't done half the N4 grammar.

Edinburgh. I was pretty worried going in because it was my first time, but it was very well organised.

Haha, I'm in Sydney. They only do JLPT tests here in December. Which is useless for applying for any jobs where it might be useful as the applying periods are before December.

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もう一度、バンプ～

how do I vocabulary
I can read but I can't understand and I don't know how the hell do I learn this

I am not smart enough to understand the process it follows

Read the entirety of Tae Kim or a good substantial amount of Imabi. This will take about 2 weeks to a month depending how much hours you put in per day.

Start reading simple Japanese works, Yotsubato! is a good start because it provides pictures for context, everyday vocabulary and simple grammatical structures. Listen to easy Japanese audio. Japanese Podcast 101 has some good stuff but can get boring. Elementary-level audiobooks with transcripts is also excellent. Keep doing these with progressively more difficult materials. Continue studying Tae Kim or Imabi if you have trouble with new grammatical concepts.

Anki is mindnumbingly boring and mostly pointless for language learning since at the end, it takes up your valuable reading time and would eventually end up killing your motivation, your most important asset.

I think I'm giving up Holla Forums.

I initially wanted to work and live in Japan, but I did some research and I guess I wouldn't survive their working conditions plus a few other things that bothered me about Japan.

Oh well, there goes all my motivation to keep learning Japanese.

I mean I still like Japan and would love to play Japanese games or read manga, but learning Japanese is soo time consuming.

I stopped playing video games, watching anime, going to the gym and drinking alcohol, just to get more time for learning and still barely made progress.

I was learning for 6 months and can't read shit, I think I need a break at least but I'm afraid I'll forget everything.

Depends what job you're doing I guess? I'm pulling a normal 40 hours more or less.

Learning a language is a fuckhuge process user, it's not something you're magically going to pull off in a year or two. The trick is to make it stay engaging and interesting. Throw yourself at one or two games or animu now, and then every few months go back to one of them and see how you slowly progress at understanding. The other, don't go back until a few years later. With the first, you'll see slow incremental progress, and with the second you'll realize just how huge a jump you've made as a whole.

What's the best way of translating kanji you don't know from a video game?

I wanna try Recettear but I'm scared.

jisho.org/ has a function where you put in the radicals and it gives you a range of selections, which you can narrow down by picking more radicals.

It's not fast, but it gets you where you need to go.

Awesome, thank you.

Sorry to be a bother, but the mega link to よつば needs an encryption key, have I missed that or should I just find it somewhere else?

try this
nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=412238

Thank you very much, but

S-should I be worried?

Coming on suggestion from the MH thread: Any anons who know moonrunes willing to weigh in on my feeble MHX dlc localization effort? I've "translated" the main data for all of the main high rank, but I'm unsure of what to do for at least a third of them.

The only difficult part is the quest names, the rest is straightforward. In-sheet commenting should be "on" for the public link. Any suggestions or improvements are appreciated.

Sorry for the mess:
docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19JtcT6jMxWeUmWwbXe-vu6FTSM55p_XIXzqRGVYvJCU/edit?usp=sharing

As I said in the MonHun thread, I'll post for it community after the project is finished.

So how long did it take you fags to be able to read without having to refer to a translator every other word?
If this shit takes more than three months, I'm not going to bother.
I ship for basic training in three months. Maybe sooner.
I expect it to take a few months but want to know if other Anons have had faster results.

Depends on the text.

Learn anyways. If you know even the most basic your chances of getting posted in Nippon and not a combat zone increase a lot.

Don't bother learning Japanese in this case. If you only think about the destination rather than the journey, you won't last 3 months, let alone 2 weeks.

Other way around, the let alone would be the longer period of time

It's just a cute kid's anime with a little kissing.

About how much kanji would I need to know to be somewhat comfortable reading things in general? Like how much shit would I actually understand after 2k and 6k?

You can learn all the kanji and not learn a single word.

2k and 6k are vocab decks, the vast majority of Japanese words are compounds of kanji and hiragana.

You could learn 6k words and not understand a single sentence. Words without structure have no meaning, you need to learn grammar.

You can't half ass Japanese and expect to learn anything, the Roman alphabet is not a language, nor is a list of words using it. The guide in the OP has all the information you need if you decide learning Japanese is worth your time.

I read the doc but I had trouble understanding that. So it's kanji and hiragana that makes up words, not just the kanji by themselves. Does that mean the little Chinese I know won't be that useful?

What about it don't you understand?

Probably not; in Chinese each character is a word and as for as I'm aware usually has only one reading. Japanese just borrowed the characters to write their own words with, occasionally the words they're used in are related to the Chinese meaning but they'll also be used wherever they sound right for the word or whenever the drunk monks who invented the retarded Japanese writing system found it most convenient. Japanese Kanji also have multiple readings; for example the character 言 can be read as ゲン, ゴン,　い（う）　or こと depending on the word it's used in.

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Are there girls kissing girls?

Many single kanji can by themselves be used a word, but not all of them.

For example 水 alone forms a word, 捧 does not and is only used in conjunction with hiragana (捧げる), other kanji (捧呈), and/or both (捧げ物) to form words. 水 too can be combined with other things to form separate words.

I think the primary benefit benefit gained by knowing Chinese would be being able to recognize and distinguish between kanji you're already familiar with & in addition a lot of them share similar meaning between the two languages.

I don't really know anything about Chinese, but the grammar is probably a fair bit closer to Japanese than English is as well, so I imagine you'd have less to wrap your head around as far as that goes too. I don't know how far knowing a little will get you though.

バンプ～

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Ah, Hindu Death Metal Jesus, my archnemesis Gyakuten 6 was a blast

no.

上げ

Is there any lewd stuff in it?

No more or less than the rest of the series

What a shame.

Any Nipponese romhacks of note other than Saga Frontier restoration patch and Pokemon Vega+its prequels?

バンプ～

not playing any nip games at the moment, so I don't have much to contribute lately

Why not?

I was near the end of Sakura Wars but I got distracted by The Witcher 3.

I ordered one of those Everdrive things for my Sega Genesis, and when that comes I plan to load it up with some Japanese games to play.

guess ill try and join you guys
ill just learn mostly at weekends
i dont have any japanese game i want to play.
i just want to watch nip tv shows without having to rely on subs

anyone here started reading this guide from blank slate and how is your progress today?

You can learn

You can learn

But you'll only crash and BUURN

Go back to bed Treehouse

I have had an unfortunate stop in my studies due to personal problems, but I followed the google doc and it goes pretty well.
Learning basic phrases and such is pretty simple (so was learning the kana) but I can't into kanji for shit except maybe the really simple ones.

バンプ～