Player vs Gamer

Money.
and the eventual acquisition of more money.

You're saying we all of a sudden don't hate it? There is no "gamer identity", its all bullshit that leftists make up because they cannot fathom people not being tied to identity politics and retarded marketing firms falling for the mainstream narrative the leftists dominate.

I don't want to give long speeches, but yeah they also tried gamer+ you are right.

Okay, let me know when you find that game that allows you to play with 32 gamers instead of players user.

Retarded thread.

I might be a faggot, but I'm not a complete faggot.

I think i remember "Gamer+", didn't that rear it's ugly head around the Athiest+ shitstorm?

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Fucking this. Whoever calls himself 'gamer' or 'player' unironically (or ironically) is getting stuck in the trash can at school for sure.

Fucking faggots the lot of them.

So if you read books I shouldn't call you a reader? Would you prefer book enthusiast or paper flipper? Does the terms meaning and association really matter in the end?

A rose by any other name would still smell as sweet as they say.

ohhhh noooo what will I ever do now that people say player instead of gamer

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I can't remember, all I remember is that it fell so flat on its face that they dropped it really fast. Hell I hardly even remembered it had existed until the other guy came along.

No. What the fuck? Reading books does not an identity make you fucking retard. Just because you play with dice doesn't mean you're a "roller". Just because you ride a bicycle doesn't mean you identify as a rider. Just because you do a thing doesn't mean its your fucking identity you piece of shit.

they even had tshirts and shit.

Oh the ironing.

Why do all of these Jews hate video games?

"gamer" was also a shitty label forced on you by the media

10 years ago Holla Forumsirgins would puke when they saw someone call himself a "gamer", now you're defending the label

found it, this was pushed before they came up with 'player'

Wearing something like this doesn't exactly make yourself endearing to the video game community.

Wasn't this a parody of atheism+ though?

reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/2f3rxr/gaminggamer_is_real/

I think I am going to call myself a paper flipper from now on.

How do they read this and not get just how shitty this all is.
"Hey we want to make this new gaming culture BY GETTING RID OF IT!"

I prefer the term gaymer because if I have to be named with a shit term arbitrarily chosen by other might as wall make it a funny one.

Because they are the opposite side of the videogame hating coin, the shadow version of Holla Forums.

It's a topsy turvy world and we are the winners. Always remember that.

i am a mouse clicker.

Anyway, the point is, even so the term 'gamer' was another labe pushed by media, they now poush the next label. This is more like a D&C tactic and i notice since a few weeks that this get pushed hard.

im 28 and im disgusted to have wasted so much time of my life in gaming since i was like 7

I should just have kept studying physic-chemistry-biology, working out and fucking my girlfriends more

Dont do it kids, dont waste your time on this shitty ass hobby

Yeah but you have to say it in a black person voice like 'PLAYA'.

And then journalists who hate video games are PLAYA HATERS

Or worked while reasonably playing games and become a high functioning autist

Essentially yeah. I remember before all this shit happened, gamer was just a descriptor as part of someones hobbies, like:
He's a gamer, jogger, amateur baker, etc.
It was how you described someone who liked playing games as a time waster or hobby. Now people keep trying to subtly make gamer sound like a bad thing. Course they can suck on my left nuts hairiest section.

I'll be damned if I let a bunch of nu-males guilt me into stopping using a phrase i've been using over a decade. It's the same shit as what women do and those pathetic manipulative fucks from neogaf.

In the same boat, I could have done anything in the world and came out better than I did.

Bit on the nose, if you ask me.

The video game community?!

Yeah, the == VIDEO GAME COMMUNITY == that thing that is worse than the Nazis and republicans and heterosexual white males who vote trump.

We hate them so much we want to drag them kicking to our side.

Yep, the world was literally my oyster some years ago. Instead of taking the opportunity, i wasted my youth and brains in these shitty ass games. Now faggots that couldnt dream of catching up to me are way ahead in life.

The comic sans font has never been so appropriate.

Also, can you imagine someone saying "he's a player"? Thats literally what you call a guy who picks up women. Its laughable retards think you call someone who plays videogames a player. I swear SJWs are on the same level of intelligence as the punjabis in /n/ who started calling white people cumskin and expected it to be a good insult.

Perhaps we should invent feminism+.
Inb4 that's already a thing.

lol fgts

It could also be that since people often hear 'player' often when talking about games, since that's what we say when talking about the experience, people are growing more fond of that as the definition. You don't say "the game's main quest has seven dungeons for the gamer", you say "the game's main quest has seven dungeons for the player."

Gamer is for the hobby enthusiast, whereas not everyone who plays games is a strong enthusiast.

Nope but you got me to find this shit again
github.com/ErisBlastar/cplusequality

Clearly we must change that into "he's a pickup".
And we must change trucks, now they're "loaders".
And we must change loaders, now they're "movers".
And we must…

I can't stand either terms but I find great irony in radfems trying to promote the term "player" when they are most butthurt about being duped by "players" than anything else in the dating scene and write 10 page long rants about how much they hate them. If anything, we should let them promote "player" and let them get played.

We don't need Feminism+ because Feminism is already a thing.
hell, i'd argue that Atheist+/Gamer+ are just the attempts of Feminism to infect other groups, like how Cancercells turn into tumors

It's funny really, the term shitlord came from stormlord which in turn was a mutation of stormfag but remade to be inclusive and family friendly. The problem is that stormlord is INCREDIBLY FUCKING METAL and doesn't really work as an insult at all.

They really, really don't understand how to make derogatory names and insults.

Oh yeah sure, that totally means playing videogames, not the term its been used for for decades, where you pick up women. Dumbass.

Exactly. Its current year, and we gotta start fixing the language. Double plus good!

Theyre really not. I've even heard a bunch of the idiots try to use "White Male" as an insult. It's hilarious.

Wow you're really on to something here I think. You must be really cutting edge.

Seriously though, leftism destroys everything.

We need to take shitlord back. Shitlord is way too cool.

player.me/

I'm really content with "player", think I'm going to use it from now on.

"Gamer" is just really dorky and stupid.

now it is rly hard to dig up the old gg stuff about this gamer+ happening. I remember there was something where the socjus folks would jump on anyone who used the term gamer.

i remember how sony used the term 'players' in their commercial first.

i remember how an journo said "if my son becomes a gamer i will kill him" or something like that.

No it's depressing.

Retards go through decades of conditioning and they come out as liberals.

I wonder if it's a combination of conflicting nanomachines been toggled on and off?

from butthurt to salty
from stupid to retarded to autistic
from negros to blacks to african americans to people of colour
from the oriental to the chink to the chinese to american chinese

words deforming into different meanings and being phased out by a new word,
"shellshock to post traumatic stress disorder"

Funny, I would think arguing between which label is better would be more dividing.

Those are 2 different mediums. Reading the right things can be very beneficial for you; playing video games doesn't have the same positive effect, in fact, it's mainly had a negative effect on my life (and many other people's, one of the reasons I don't like being labeled as a gamer). Also, you calling me a reader and me labeling myself a reader are 2 different things. When I label myself a gamer it means that one of the first things I want you to know about me is that I play video games. That's who I am, it's what I'm known for, that guy who plays video games! Trust me, when I'm meeting new people that's not the first impression I want to give off.

Every time I hear about X community these days, I always loudly exclaim "THE X COMMUNITY?!"
I couldn't help myself.

Wouldn't that be like aerobics for the dead?

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The term shitlord as it is used today came from Something Awful. Goons call(ed) people shitlords all the time all the time.

Thanks to feminism and socialism in schools. I wish we could just fuck off and take a piece of africa and make a white country away from all this bullshit. Never have to deal with the morons again.

Apparently SHITLORD shirts exist, because of fucking course they do. I'd still rock one.
Also, this.

I always assumed shitlord came from the jewish talmud, due to it saying Jesus is boiling in a cauldron of liquid shit for all eternity. So it was adual insult, calling someone a lord of shit and insulting the lord jesus himself to christians and catholics without them realizing it.

We "Marching to Zion" in here?

it's just tribe mentality from being young, you'd find that most of these sjw types move on when they stop being bloody 18 and start being actual adults

that's deep

What the fuck? Kike sorcery is fucking weird.
Speaking of which, I learned a new kike word today: boychick.

(did only read half of the thread)
Why cant both be viable to use? MMORPG uses the term players and that is a old term that have been used for many years

Most of those SJW types are like 27. 30 is the new 18.

those the numales right?

Well, we'd have ourselves, and someone's going to become the new morons when the morons are gone.

No just in general really. Just look at how late women get children because they're "not ready for children yet".

Fuck yes. I'm a teenager again.
Wait, no, being a teenager sucks cock.

I call myself a gamer-nigger, since i download all the games i play.

I prefer interactive experience experiencer.

ulgy woman right?

you sucked dicks as a teenager? what a gay

Yeah, exactly. It's like when they add "culture" to every hobby so they could claim some kind of intellectual high ground.
"gaming culture" or "gamer identity" is not a thing. A gamer is just a guy or a grill who enjoy video games, that's all.

Teenager in mind because they're coddled babies who know jack shit. Not teenager in body.

???

Gamer+, also known as GAMR was an early attempt at bringing Gamergate under leftist control when it still mattered on imageboards. Anarchists naturally refused it.

But eventually the leftists in the group naturally betrayed the rest, and even now spend their time caring about PR and twitter. Because as it became painfully obvious:

1) A leftist feels closer to SJWs than to right wingers;

2) It is futile to attempt fighting back the left alongside the previous generation of leftists.

ones that can't get a man

Everyone has to be good at something, user.

Please use your words to form full sentences instead of random pieces of dialogue so I can see the whole question instead of small tidbits.

that's true

how about you take a moment to understand what's being said so you look less like a retard

you said "ones not ready for children yet"

I just wanted to play good video games.

Webm related.

You know what's really funny?

The media was the same ones who encouraged the term "gamer" instead of player ("game player" in this context) since the word "player" itself had negative connotations for decades.

To whit, a "player" (popularly male, but females are not uncommon, only that they're more subtle) is someone who is skilled in social engineering, either practiced or a natural talent for persuasion and manipulation of others. The usual popular romanticized depiction is a male dandy who seduces women by pretending to be interested in establishing a deeper relationship when they're only after sex–the so-called pickup artists as we know them today. And as said before, this is not a strictly man-only thing–women can be players, and very, very good at it.

Player is possibly derived from the phrases "play (him) for a fool", or "play like a fiddle/violin/(insert string instrument here)". This was a mainstay of urban black American cultures since the 70s, and even now its usage is still prevalent in hip-hop culture.

On the other hand, "gamer" is not restricted to video games, and can be applied to almost any hobby that involves a form of recreation, escapism, and challenge, to alleviate boredom.

So being called a "player"/playa is to be a self-centered asshole who uses and abuses others, while being called a "gamer" is to identify as a intelligent, critical-thinking individual striving to be the best at what they do. This was the message the media used to proclaim in the days of the internet's infancy, back when video games was pushed as the alternative to other, more prohibited activities such as drugs, alcohol, smoking, and casual sex.

Funny how things have changed.

You were making nonsensical posts. If you do not form a full sentence with a question I can not understand what you are saying and I can not answer your question.

Become as defensive as you like, that is the simple truth of communication.

No shit? That's not what I was saying, I was trying to say how people would be deluded themselves into using the term when they mean to use gamer

take your autism back for a moment so that you can realize what's being said instead of needing me to point it out to you

Alright I've given you enough chances to explain what you meant. You could have just phrased the question properly (and called me an idiot if you wanted), but you keep defending your autistic lack of social skills as the norm instead of solving the actual problem.

For fuck's sake. I'm 32 and I feel disgusted. I hope they find the vaccine of aging soon.

I really don't get how you're having this much trouble with it not even the autistic kids at school I knew had this much trouble with things like this and I knew some which if you said anything that seemed like you were attacking them would flip the fuck out.

here's the riddle for ya

that's your homework for tonight

I don't know why this makes me laugh

This is the first time I've heard of this.

I'm not sure why I should care either way.

I think when you leave school 99% of people become a lot more right wing as they start to understand how the world works compared to what the teachers tell you.

But some people find that very difficult and have a very bad reaction to the fact that the world is not how their teachers described it.

Those people compensate by becoming even more left wing and completely disconnected from reality. Which is how a SJW is born.

I trust Yuri.

But yeah anyone who doesn't become a gigantic loser after school probably faces some hard realities a small life crisis and goes to the right. Or become an SJW.

I'm getting into college again to improve my resumee a little as I'm jobless, and I'm scared because I'm going to a public college and my country the reds invaded the public education.

I hope we don't talk about gamergate or any of the shit. I've studied a comunication degree and now I'm getting a superior course related to comunication.

I just wanted to edit videos and get money doing so.

Haha oh man you are sooooooooo fucked. Its not funny, but I can't stop laughing.

I'll just have to remain quiet and do the course and maybe I can learn how to promote a project I have in mind, maybe even networking a little with nonretards.

Is a spaniard public college in one of the biggest bastions of the political right in the country. Should I be scared?

Its college. No matter how you dress it up, its college.

At least I can do it for free

Gambler

Cyclist

ITT: Holla Forums is too retarded to understand that using a term that allows you to inform others about your hobby is different from acting like a twat about having a hobby.

I never called myself player or gamer, I just like playing games.

Have you noticed how these "gamers" or "players" never talk about games or playing them. It's always something meta about politics and nigger transsexuals, stronk womyn or gaymergate and muh vidyagame culture. The game(((journalists))) are so fucking incompetent at what they do that they can barely manage NUDOOM for fucks sake. I'd rather be called a faggot than be associated with any of these gamer/player dickholes.

When I went to University I didnt socialize with anyone. I resisted the pressure to join any gay clubs or get involved with any extra curricular university nonsense. I just turned up at my lectures, learned the subject, sat the exams and passed the course.

That is the ONLY sensible way to get through it with your sanity in tact and your feet still on the ground.

But I need to socialize in college, mostly to get the notes from other students and study properly.

Be prepared to be exposed to current year's culture and ideologies

Well, I'm kind of an hypocrite, so I might just smile and nod… or maybe I'll do the retarded thing and try to correct or debate them.

Either way you wont be one of them. See our point now?
Seriously find anything to study that isnt college

Its fine to become friends with a few people on your course to get lecture notes etc.

All im saying is assume everyone at uni is a dickhead unless proven otherwise.
And dont join any of those silly clubs and groups they promote. Unless its something like a sport that you like.

I just do so to improve my resumee. I'm jobless and I finished a degree 2 years ago. I'm starting to have psycological problems out of doing nothing and I don't even have money.

In my country there is no club culture, so I don't think I might join any. It's not exactly a degree. How do you english speakers call it? a post degree? a course of one or two years improving what you did in a former degree, like a specialization.

This reminds me of when SJWs tried to take over STEM by shilling art and design as a science

People tend to be a bit more chilled out on graduate degrees.
It sounds like your already on top of most of this.

I just remember everyone encouraging me to join all these dumb social clubs at uni. That is such shit advice.
I already had my own friends to waste time with when I wanted to do that.

How would high paying employers select the brightest students if every student succeeds?

I didn't even know this occurred.
Holy Christ.

Well, I've been in a private chatolic college because it had the best TV instalations in my town, but we don't have any club or stuff like that, not even in school. There isn't a debate culture here neither, mostly because not too long ago people were killed for your political opinions and beliefs, so everyone was encouraged and educated to remain quiet.

The only clubs so far were soccer football club or Basketball if you wanted something exotic.

Has Gaben sue them?

Well, step one would probably be, "Did they graduate with an Art degree, or a degree that prepared them for more than how to say, 'Do you want fries with that?'"

that is the stupidest thing i have ever heard

even just the words that those acronyms spell, it's like poetry

a stem is strong and structural and supports the rest of a plant, whereas steam is transient and disperses into the air as soon as it is created

it's like the universe itself was using symbolism to tell these people that what they are doing is pointless

Steam is quite similar to 'hot air'. Which I think would be an appropriate description.

This is how retarded you are

So, someone linked this thread to the GG thread and now all the socjus (((anons))) came here to pretend that nothing happened!

he is talking about a hobby. A hobby isn't something that you do one time, nigger.

They don't. It is to lower standards in order to be able to shit up education all they want without it showing up in statistics since in the results it would show that students are passing more often than previously therefore leading people to conclude the SJW infiltration actually helped education.

GG git gud

It's a retreat, they know they can't touch gamer so OP is shilling player.

Shills. But continue, the sooner games stop being cool the sooner the quality and passion comes back.

i don't even know what you try to say?

wat?

Player is a better term
It will be used to define and commercialize that sector of the population

But better the original name instead of one that they thought it was "cool"
People are labbeled by the things they do or how they act
metalhead
emo
SJW
geek
redneck
autistic shitposter

With whatever action we do there will be a label for it, no one is so special to have none

Bookworm is the term
Yes, it doesn't matter

he is trying to say he cant argue shit

Nice to see you can at least project your problems unto me.

using it in the coret context, yes. As you image shows.

But what is happening in the gaming media around the internet is a term pushed for a different purpose. It feels more like, dividing the people who are dedicated to this hobby (by telling them that they are 'Players') and, yeah, than conquer them. D&C.

It's not like as this would anyone suprise, especially since we know what the corrupt clique is doing, already did with comics and so on. It seems as if this socjus clique have resumed to their normal work. What means, still doing corrupt things and infiltrade, exploite the industry.

the media doesn't need to divide people who jump on every hype train. the only way this has any merit is when people make threads crying about semantics.

I never understood what the hell was this supposed to be about?

We're ruining gaming and we're proud of it, even though we look ugly as hell

Well yes… that is what they do, that was the original porpoise of the word "gamer"

Marketing, if they can make people identify themselves as only something, and convince them that that is special, they will have money from them from the traffic and the products they sell

The word itself is not bad, how they use it is what brings problems

To deny a proper word is troublesome and will make us seem like spoiled, but we can deny them their sheckels by posting things that break their marketing

People called them out on their shit and they tried to own it. It impressed exactly nobody outside their existing clique.

They're in retreat now; slow and whiny, but a retreat. Their stranglehold over the discourse has been broken, and their biggest cheerleaders went too far and got the hammer (Gawker). And companies are starting to realise pandering to SJWs is financial suicide, because there's not that many of them and they don't buy anything.

Gamer only made sense as a term when nerds will still an outgroup everyone made fun of. But now that nerdy shit is a multi-billion dollar industry and being nerdy is the hot new thing(Because $$$) the term has no use because it's not anything special. Back when 2 million sales for a game was mind blowing and thought to be impossible gamer meant something.
Gamer as a term died when free games happened. LoL, TF2's f2p update, and so on. When there's no barrier to entry anymore any schmuck can download some f2p garbage and call themselves a 'gamer'.

Gamer.

Who the fuck care, you retard? why are you so keen on labeling yourself?

True.
But ironically it came back to life at the time of the 'gamers are dead' articles.

As a contrarian asshole myself I quite like the idea of being part of something that the mainstream media says is dead.

Not even video games, they're interactive 3d animations. Absolutely disgusting.

also pissbaby. It's not surprising that whenever a goon hotpocket or tastemaker gets publicity it's invariably a Brooklyn Jew.

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As I understand it, SJW devs and those directly connected to them attempted to reclaim the term "gamer" from the "toxic" gaming community (read: Tried to turn vidya into a safe space for them), and failed miserably. So instead of attempting to put the term into a positive light, they're instead opting to turn the term into something inherently negative, using the term "player" to describe those who play games instead. In their eyes, "gamer" describes the "toxic" segment of the playerbase.

Of course, even normalfags aren't having any of it. "Gamer" is still the common descriptor outside of SJW circles. This attempt, like the previous, will most likely fail.

I'm an animer

how much time is left?

so nobody knows if they will fail or not.

You guys remember when shit like this would get laughed at on cuckchan of all places?
What the fuck do SJWs stand to gain from chainging the world gamer to player? Honestly this shit is retarded.
"shils in threads" nigga what fucking shills? Do you even know what that word means? Shills means their trying to trick you into buying something.

Post the edited one, its fucking hilarious

Fucking hell, m8. How do people manage to fuck up teaching addition and subtraction?

I dont have it and I dont remember what it is.
But have some cringe.

Was about to post that video

The term gamer is cringeworthy anyway. Stop being such a good little demographic. Don't say either.

If the circles in question manage to succeed somehow, then I'd imagine the process taking a few years to take over. It's pretty much the commonly-used term in academia already, but such a shift is something that wouldn't happen real quick.

There's plenty of factors, making a 100% accurate prediction pretty much impossible. A lot can change over the years. But as it stands, I can't see a realistic path towards "player" being the primary term. The term "gamer" is tightly embedded in culture nowadays.

What kind of a retard would even consider himself a "gamer" or a "player"? I play video games so much that I'd be embarrassed admit it to anyone, yet alone identify as one. It's like, well, I masturbate all the time but I don't go around telling people how proud I am for being such a hardcore wanker.

Sage for gossip shit that shouldn't even be discussed on this board.

that's how i see it too but will also know what socjus did to comics. Was there any termologie changed with in the comic scene? Comic+? I don't think so but again, they might only use it to D&C.

The entire thread is fucking cancer. Who cares about a harmless descriptor that some people use to help them communicate a simple idea about themselves? If you don't want to use it, then fucking don't. However, there's no reason to say that the term "gamer" is cringeworthy. The term isn't anything, its usage and the connotations that it implies, along with how these connotations change and are received, are what give you any reaction at all. It's stupid to give a shit.

The term "player" in reference to video games is typically used in a different context. This term isn't used to describe yourself as a hobbyist, instead it's used when discussing the relationship between the person PLAYING the game and various elements of the game itself. You don't say, "The level design allows the gamer to approach a number of different situations in varied and interesting ways" because it sounds stilted and unusual. Likewise, saying, "lol this autist player thinks he's so cool but is really just a flaming faggot cringe factory" doesn't make any god damned sense because, like many other people have pointed out, the term "player" tends to carry connotations that aren't directly related to playing video games.

You people who don't want to describe yourself as a "gamer" are afraid of the connotations the word carries and what they may imply about you. You're not afraid of the word itself. It's understandable that normalfags would care about how other people perceive them, but "REE get off my board, etc"

In short, I just wonder why you give a shit. If some faggot 12 year old cawwadoody squeaker on the mic refers to himself as a "gamer" that doesn't mean that you, presumably a grown ass adult, can't use the word in passing to quickly communicate something about yourself. Additionally, if someone asks you in passing, "so, what do you like to do in your spare time?" you don't have to respond by saying, "I'm a gamer." You can just say, "I play video games" or "I consider myself a video game enthusiast". The truth is, though, that you can't escape the connotations that are implied by the term "gamer" by merely substituting it with something else. The connotations are placed upon anyone who plays games, so if you're so worried about how other people see you, then you may as well take up another hobby or just lie about what you do in your spare time all together.

At least they aren't saying "GamePerson".
yet :^)

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The point is:
Gamers are portrayed as the stereotype you'd see on TV.
But Bill Gates and associates want to push videogames as a learning tool to force them in schools along with Microsoft Surface and Windows 10 tablets and PCs
Their objective is to separate as much as possible the "gamer" and the videogames in order to make the public see this as a step forward in teaching techniques.

This is why "gamers are dead" and "videogames can evolve now".

Player makes me think of someone who is actively playing a game, not someone who plays games a lot.
Gamer just sounds gay, it immediately reduces your status to manchild.

In my native language both translates to the same word.

Wrong, I dont care about label. What you dont see is that you are playing right into their hand. This is similar to what happened in GG, they called you racist, mysoginist etc and then you going out of your way to prove that you arent by pandering to the very SJW you are fighting. So what if they called gamer is mysoginist or whatever, why do you even care? Even if player is the new hip term, so what?

Who the fuck tries to use these terms as some kind of identity? If someone says they are a "gamer" then they just mean that they like to play video games, there is no deep fucking meaning about exactly what video games they play, it's just a simple comment saying "I like games".

Nobody calls themselves a "player" either, you just say player to mean someone who is playing a game. You might say it in a sentance like "and all the players hated the new maps" or something. People take this shit way too seriously.

how about we just stop with the names and shit and just be like "yeah nigga i play games also wanna touch dicks" or whatever instead of being some mouthbreather who needs a word for everything he does rather than just talking about what he does

It's about the only way the betacucks that fill out the SJW ranks would ever get called a player in any context.

Hey, remember when the word "troll" was associated with someone getting off by taking the piss out of you? I wonder how some people now associate "trolls" with "harassers", "terrorists" and "political activists" (not making that one up, the Times published that shit).

Let's put it the other way: what's the use of replacing a word with another? Why would you do that in the first place? What makes the meaning of words so important that you feel the word needs to be changed? Could it maybe affect the meaning?

Words work like a package deal. A single word can embed multiple ideas, and certain ideas are easier to associate with certain words. For instance, "gamer" has always been associated specifically with video games, but not player. If you replace "gamer" by "player", you remove the video game distinction, which mean you can pretend that "playing" a video game is like "playing" a musical instrument, or "playing" a role, it's like "acting" (not necessarily "pretending", but "doing something"). So in definitive, when you are playing games, you really "act". If you keep pushing this logic a bit further, you get into the whole argument that you learn things from game, that games are teaching tools, that content of games has to be certified so the "wrong" things aren't taught.

Stop thinking words are meaningless. They do convey ideas. That's how we communicate. Don't underestimate the nuances you lose or gain by swapping two words.

This one?

strawpoll.me/11028305

Gamers =/= Nerds.

You are too young to remember, but vidya wasn't born a past time for lonely autists stuck to a console. Arcades were big places of gathering and socialization for boys, with a wide range of personality types and ages inside. Most of them had no consoles or computers: having a computer in the late 80s, now that was being a nerd.

The stereotype for the nerd gamer is something artificial and recent, and it shouldn't surprise you that even us are believing bullshit about ourselves: something always sticks. And yet even recently, the marketing for the PS1 was centered around declaring gaming a mainstream hobby. It's not right to consider vidya a ghetto, because it wasn't until normalfags started pointing fingers.

But that example the exact opposite.
They are trying to make gaming PC and mainstream so keeping gamers as an edgy stereotype is exactly what we should do.

it might not be a concern for the educated gamer but sheeples outnumberd these people and are actually driving this gaming community. This 'New Audience' these publisher are focused on, nothing else than braindead tools who pre-order anything these socjus devs shit out.

With these sheeples the industry is able to manipulate the heck out of it, so, using D&C, changing termologie and what not could have a bigger effect as we might think.

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You nerds wish you were players.

You're a player within a single game.
You're a gamer if games are your major hobby.

That should be the end of every discussion.

"Player" is just a role. It's temporary, like being drunk, whereas "gamer" is more permanent, like being an alcoholic.

Shitlord was taken back. The only people who use it now are TRS, Holla Forums & other Alt-Right people. I haven't seen any SJWs using it for a while.

I don't think I've ever seen a more appropriate simile

What kind of low expectations faggot takes pride in being called a gamer?
When literally anyone can just pickup a controller or keyboard and do what you do it's not fucking special.

Are you a mouth breathing retard?

People use the descriptor to highlight their primary hobby or interest. It's like getting a stick up your ass over metalheads when anybody can pick up an album and listen to it.

Do you understand how retarded your argument is?

LITERALLY ANYBODY CAN DRIVE A CAR. WHAT'S THE DEAL WITH GEARHEADS?

Not everyone spends a relaxing evening at home playing video games.

It is a popular hobby, but it is not something enjoyed by everyone as a hobby.

It's a sign of what a particular clique believes and what they're trying to push in the media. They've been into doing it for a while and the people annoyed with it whose posts you can read here are likely aware of the fact that there is this deranged divide that's been attempted.

Is it so everyone can be a player, so more marketing opportunities?

Sounds like we need more loli games then just to shit all over their dreams.

You mean propaganda tool.

Playing video games isn't the only thing I do in life or something that I do for a living, why would I be called a gaymer?

wew lad, this thread.. holy shit. Seems like 8/v/ is indeed just sjw pretending to be anons.

I want to dick the gamer

that's a playa not a player

So what does getting dubs make you?

This is retarded. Player doesn't makes sense. Like if I were to go "I'm a bit of a player" to say I'm a video game enthusiast, people will think of a bunch of thing. Video game enthusiast is too long of a nickname, so gamer is a better term. Gamer isn't a movement. It's just a word to describe an enthusiast.

Do these words bookworm or film junkie have a political meaning behind them know. If people are okay with these names then I'm sure a name like "gamer", that is more simpler than the above terms, should be no problem. So the media is trying to market it or demonize it. Big whoop. I'm still going to use the word "gamer" because I'm not going to waste my saliva saying "video game enthusiast" when I can say simpler word.

You god damn right about that. Plus you can extract a whole lot of salt from people with lolis (Whether it be from actual pedos, crazies, kikes, leftists, whatever!)

Not you

How is this even a debate?

A gamer is someone who plays games as a hobby. As a hobby, not as an occasional pastime - so Tyrone that plays Street Fighter over at Laquisha's house every Sunday is not a gamer - he's just a dude.

However, in the moment of playing Street Fighter, Tyrone is a player. A player is someone playing something at a particular point in time.

That's it. I don't fucking understand why you faggots don't understand the difference between terms "player" and "gamer".

You don't need to label yourself fucking anything, it's not an identity - it's a handle. Just like a carpenter doesn't have to label himself as one, he just is one - a fucking carpenter.

Nowadays it's generally entry level normalfags who play shit like LOL and cowadooty who call themselves gamer. It's extremely cringeworthy.

You're on Holla Forums too.

Maybe he's just crossboarding and (hopefully) isn't a native resident of Holla Forumseddit.

Carpenter isnt a hobby, its a job.

Holla Forums plz. My notions of leftism involve actually supporting free speech.

What's with this revisionist history where people suddenly pretend there were never leftists in the fight against SJW?

If you do a thing, you're a thing-doer. That's pretty basic 1+1=2 shit right there, user.

That doesn't define you, it just describes one thing that you've been known to do from time to time, even if the amount of times is once.

Wasn't this made back on half-chan way back at the start of gamergate? I remember seeing it back then.

Some user had made it as a parody of the whole Atheism+ thing.

More or less, although I'd loosen the definition of "gamer" to include if it's just a hobby, even if it's not necessarily your biggest one (This is why subcategories exist). "Player" makes more sense in specific contexts, such as, "Players react X way to Y game mechanic". However, it sounds just silly if you said something like, "I'd like to thank players for this game dev award".

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the difference between a leftist and an SJW is the same difference between an extreme muslim and a "moderate" muslim.

You both come from the same idealogical base and agree on basic concepts, but one will argue that the other is "too extreme" in its methods. And they both say that their extremists beliefs aren't wrong, just misguided.

leftism gives birth to SJWs. just like socialism gives birth to communism.

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We won Max.

I watched a movie today, am I a "watcher"?
I ate a sandwich today, am I an "eater"?
I drank a beer today, am I a "drinker"?

Fuck off with this faggot "gaming culture" bullshit. Play some video games and don't flaunt the fact that you do so around like you're something special.

I want a video game to teach me advanced math, not to make me watch a child die from cancer or be an insufferably autistic cunt.

Isn't "player" the term given to a cis white males who mysogonizes women into leaving the safe space of Feminism?

Both terms are retarded but I still remember back then how they shilled against using the word player because it triggered cunts about their exs after they got played hard and they promoted gamer instead. Now they're doing a 180 which somehow manages to be even more retarded.

The real question is, why the fuck is Holla Forums so shit lately? Browsing threads lately you see 1- faggots getting triggered unironically by the word faggot 2- all these nigger loving cucks 3-extreme shilling of SJW positions 4- all these fucking gooks everywhere 5- being against GG while on fucking fullchan Holla Forums 6- mods not doing fucking shit to stop the cancer because they're too obsessed with their 20th hotpocket of the day

petty is ACTUALLY this guy's last name!

would you say gen X is shaping up well?

here on Holla Forums are more sjw as actually anons.

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the new way seems like they intend to segment operations so they are easier on our brain. It would be ok if the act of segmenting the whole thing didn't add more complexity than it removes and it shows the people behind common core probably had common core for education

Learn how make a bullet point you fucking retard.

Ok then what about a gearhead? Someone who is a gearhead may not be a mechanic.

Why does it matter? its just a label.

No, I don't hear that term more now.
Probably because I don't watch jewtubers to know what they're pushing.
I also don't go to corrupt gaming websites to know what they're pushing.
I also don't talk to 12 year olds or listen to sjw devs.

Player has always been a viable term to refer to a person playing a video game.
I'm pretty sure you're crazy, but I will briefly entertain the possibility that there has been some massive shift and accept links to any common or pseudo-common source that corroborates this.

*tips fedora

The patch can't come soon enough.

Why does this man have the kanji for "sheep" on his arm?

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He's acting like the method of subtraction that has worked for centuries is somehow incomprehensible.
That's beyond infomercial-tier, what the fuck.

I was actually curious just how many centuries, pic related is from 1540.

common core cucks make me angry every time I look at anything related to it.

Get it together, men.

Is this their way of closing the gap of black and white test scores or is there something more insidious planned? Like to maintain a supply of low skill workers?

Sony is being a good goy to the meta-Jew.

Except for a single reference somewhere about how the loooooove spelunky so much.

All the rainbow-haired and degenerate idiots that were the problems around GG seemingly had this game listed like it was a secret code for identifying yourself to other SJWs.

For the sheer joy that comes with burning something down and affecting someone else's fun without repercussion.

Hell, as a bonus they got to build a narrative and not have anyone in the media question it.

Not retreat, slowed down. If anything they're stopped and waiting for the next time to start again. There's no point doing anything now because the general MSM has got enough content with the US election and leftover time for all the lefty hot-button topics in things like Ghostbusters and whatever diversity-swap is going on in cape films.

IMO, GG only really worked for them because once they started with the 'soggy-knees' narrative, they relied on just the slightest spread in larger media to reinforce it which at that point it just became unquestionable truth. How else could Sarky/Flynt get so much screentime when it takes all of 5 seconds to realize everything they say is just fucking crazy.

After the election, between Marvel movies there'll be another GG - they just need to wait for when MSM has airtime to spare for the signal-boost.

Didn't he mean to say Gamergate followers?

I've always thought that when refer to the base of a single game, the term players meant the most sense because you're talking about anyone who might play, from a serious hobbyist to someone who may have just rolled up to the open game and hit the w button to move forward. Gamers makes more sense to describe hobbyists in general, because the term implies you play multiple games.

They aren't cute. Far beyond that.

They hate murder or anything "icky" like that, plus they could only more-or-less wound what they seeked to destroy

Their "cinematic experiences" with "choices" and "art" do a lot to pull out the game from the equation

I will never understand why the method taught for this is so needlessly complex.
Starting with the number in the last digit on the bottom, subtract it from the top 2 digits as you work your way to the leftmost digit.
342 - 183 then becomes a series of easier math problems:
now change the first digit of the bigger number to the first digit of the answer, this makes 342 into 332
repeat, now 332 becomes 232
now add the last digit of each previous answer to 100 since 1 is in the hundred's place, you have 159
and depending on the numbers you subtract, this is just an efficient way of subtract bastard numbers in this example, it took me fucking years to realize I could be doing math easier ways than what was taught, but common core really teaches it in the most time consuming way(s) possible

This is how I use the terms as well. They aren't alternate terms for the same thing, but two different words that are applicable to different contexts.

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I call myself gaymer because I'm defined by my consumption of gay men.

Those people are bigger than him, they would crush the real steam.

that problem is so easily solved, you don't need any number lines and shit
243 - 87 becomes
>43 - 7 = 36 (243 becomes 233)
The answer is achieved in less time even if you have to count backwards on your fingers to subtract the 7 from 43 or the 8 from 23.
Common core "fixing math" is like sending an astronaut out to the sun to fix the magic teapot.

Such a fucking time waster. Glad I'm out of school.

You don't need dice to be a gambler you subhuman, a gambler is someone who puts something at stake on a game and not someone who plays games involving dice, you don't have dice in poker, you don't have dice in blackjack, you don't have motherfucking dice in roulette. Similarly, when would you ever refer to a bunch of kids who play something like Ludo as gamblers? Unless they actually wager money or something then they just play a board game. Would you go and call people who play D&D gamblers because they play a dice game?

Kill yourself promptly.

I know Spider man is marvel, but i don't think that really counts…

Common Core literally exists to "end white privilege".

Why would any sane man support this?

This guy is so full of shit and he doesn't even realize it himself.

1. divorce generation of heritage, identity and culture
2. create and sell new vacuous identities and cultures to the deprived

Chill user, I thought he was using "playing dice" to describe a gambling activity, because that's what it's most commonly used as.

Don't get autistic about semantics, you still understand the point I was trying to make in that post.

who the fuck cares

"Players" is the term for referring to the audience. Similar to "viewers" or "listeners" for TV and Radio.
"Gamers" is a term referring to the enthusiast group. Similar to "cinimaphiles" and similar.

The important distinction is that "player" is anyone who happens to be playing the game RIGHT NOW while "gamer" is someone who is particularly invested in the hobby at any time.

My point still stands. Go buy some industrial rope.

He is legit retarded

essentially replacing subtraction with more addition. Fucking why? Subtraction isn't harder than addition, it's literally the same process with slight alterations. That is, in the "old way".

I think the real argument here is that Common Core is a piece of shit that teaches kids nonsense, and even contains propaganda

It is remove the distinction between faggots that play Angry Birds or overhype AAA garbage over someone with actual taste.

Look man, we figured this shit out a decade ago

If you read books, you're a bookfaggot, or a bookfag
If you ride bikes, you're a bikefag

Super Simple Stuff

Nothing to gain. They're just trying to change the way people speak for the sake of it, to control something. They're always been obsessed about words. Semantics.

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Player is anyone playing a game.
Gamer is someone whose hobby is playing videogames.
Remove distinction between the two.
There is no such thing is a casual.

SJW's are just an arm of control for the elites

They are financed by the "deep state"

465 - 80
1. break the larger number into smaller components
(four hundred and sixty five is four hundred plus sixty five)
(sixty five is just sixty plus five)
2. subtract the numbers in the ones and tens place from the smaller number's components in the corresponding places
(400 + 60 + 5) - 80
sixty minus eighty is twenty
(400 + 5) - 20
twenty minus five is fifteen
400 - 15
3. break down the smaller number into even smaller components
(fifteen is just ten plus five)
400 - (10 + 5)
(four hundred minus ten is three hundred and ninety)
(three hundred and ninety minus five is three hundred and eighty five)
390 - 5 = 385

What's wrong with doing it like this to teach someone how math works? Of course, there's no reason to always do it like this once you understand how the process works, but that's not the point. Fuck number lines, fuck the convoluted process of drawing little cubes or animals to represent the numbers or whatever. This method assumes that the person learning is already comfortable with the concept of COUNTING. Addition and subtraction, on a basic level, are merely counting forwards and backwards. The point is to get people to compute these things quickly without having to stop and use their fingers or some visual aid.