I have been thinking about this all day and all night and i still cannot understand why they thought this was a good idea.
MSF soldiers being sucked through a monster rancher style wormhole and a ruined motherbase is their only safe haven in an alien world in another dimension. Thats silly but its fine. It doest fuck with the Boss/Snake story and in a metal gear acid way could be an idea that leads to a fun spin off.
So why fucking zombies? They could have made it sci-fi monster hunter, Peace Walker already got the premise halfway there already. They could have made it a 'what if they failed to keep the peace walker tech under wraps and it lead to a much worse future. But they chose "crystal zombies" that are probably just the dead MSF soldiers with pieces of mother base in their heads imbued with big bosses spirit or something equally silly.
We just had the whole 'REMOVE KIKONGO" wolbachia dealing with something similar and i guess "see player, move to player and attack" zombie AI is the easiest type of enemy you can make, its why unskilled indie devs default to it.
But it is [CURRENT YEAR] and left 4 dead 2 was the last successful zambambo game that had a retail release and that was 8 years ago. Operation Raccoon City, Umbrella Corps, even things like Killing Floor 2: sjw dosh will save us boogaloo failed at what they set out to do because the bubble burst and the very lazy "lets demonise society" style of gameplay designed with zambis in mind has no appeal to normals anymore and the MGS fanbase didn't react well to that in MGSV to begin with.
So why fucking zombies?
I expected a cash in, i expected multiplayer online so they can shill cosmetic microtransactions.
But when they had MGSV done, all the ai scripting, the models, the assetts why not just make a new Peace Walker style game if they want multiplayer? Why zombie survival crafting? who at Konami thought this was striking while the iron was hot still?
I'm still thinking they're trying to do "le kojimbo ruse :^)" marketing, and failing to understand what it actually was.
It'll probably be a co-op MGSV.
Noah Rivera
Konami executives are as stereotypical as they get. This game is "following market trends" and using a beloved IP, so they think it'll rake in big bux because they're doing everything their high school business studies text book is telling them to do.
Logan Richardson
Because zombies are still a licence to print money. That's it. If you bought anything zombie related in the last five years, you are responsible for this.
Chase Bailey
Because zombies are cool and hip like those trollface meemees amirite XDDXDXXXXXD Death Stranding better be good. I'm even willing to buy a nogamestation for it in case Jimbo jews us out.
Lucas Peterson
I'm willing to bet that they're going to go for a "we Guilty Crown now" angle.
Blake Wood
Because the fans totally asked for this, right? :^) I'M READY TO FUCKING DIE!
Jackson Fisher
Is normalfag REEEdus taking over konami?
Alexander Reyes
fuck you mark you ruined my shitty joke
Kayden Rodriguez
My guess is that someone pitched this zombie game to Konami and they like the idea, but Konami thought "If we slap the name of an existing series on this, it'll be easier to sell". Because big devs these days are terrified of releasing anything that isn't an already existing property.
Anthony Gomez
Am I missing something here? We have IDs.
Gavin Turner
I think this was just some side-op/planned DLC that got cut and is remade into a full game because of the trends.
Nolan Campbell
We know its you mark.
Oliver Williams
It's like you want to be poor.
Nathaniel Jones
Anyone have that classic meme-comic where the fat neckbeard looks at some western game, says "awful trash, etc." and then looks at some jap game, says "fucking masterpiece"?
Ethan Wilson
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Jonathan Morgan
Damn, I'm hurt. That's a cruel insult, user. I'm gonna kill myself now, death is preferable to being the boardkike, that's for sure.
Ian Myers
Here is a better question: Why use Metal Gear instead of Castlevania?
Sebastian Phillips
It looks better than MGS V tbh fam. Maybe since the hack is gone it'll be a completed game this time.
Alexander Walker
Because one franchise have CoD modern guns, and the other lacks it..
Kayden Young
so they can reuse mgsv game assets
Andrew Jenkins
What does this have to do with metal gear?
Ian Ross
Here is what I thought they would have done instead of being retarded
Just remake all the MGS Games in Fox Engine. They would print money if you put them on every platform available.
Another way they could of had this is just to go between Ground Zeros and Phantom Pain with you playing as Kaz trying to keep everything afloat as you do more and more shady shit to survive.
But they chose fucking zombie, only good thing about this game is going to be how it performs.
Jack Sullivan
I pirated the Walking Dead.
Okay for a 3DPD tv show.
Brody Thompson
Keep crying Kojimadrones. I'll be enjoying this game while you retards keep jerking off over MUH 2DEEP4U TRAILERS MUH NAKED ASSES trash that your so called god will shit out.
t. konami
Lincoln Wood
Good one Kanjiro, Konami has deposited +0.01 Yen into your account.
Lucas Wilson
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Austin Stewart
Of course, removing all mentions of kojima's name
Jose Thomas
oh it's you again. good goy
Adam Bell
Why do the zombies all have the big boss horn?
Michael Sanchez
Just do what Capcom did with Resident Evil 1 and do that to MGS1,2,3 and maybe 4 depending on how that is handled with Sony and release them as "METAL GEAR SOLID: ULTIMATE" or some shit.
It would print money and graphically/engine wise it would be the shit. True you would remove Kojima's name however look at what they did with the MGS3 Pachinko Machine and how they were able to use the voice acting and make beautiful cutscenes, just do that but for the entire series.
James Phillips
Because a disconnected non-gaming suit at Konami, sitting on a pile of pachinko profits took a cigar out of his mouth and said "Zombies, that's what the kids are into right? Make it happen."
Robert Gonzalez
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Landon Parker
because wormholes
Cooper Bell
They could have even made a war survival game if they wanted to make a survival game so much. Making a game about Mother Base soldiers hiding from Cypher and maybe even fighting against them.
But no, they had to shoehorn zombies because reasons.
It's a spin off. You people would hate Metal Gear Rising if it was released after the Kojima/Konami drama.
Jacob Turner
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Chase Robinson
At least Rising did something in the sense of trying to tell a story with a character we know, name a single person in that trailer that you would give a fuck about?
William Kelly
Zombies + recognisable brand name = Money.
That's why.
Hunter Williams
No one, that's exactly the point. In the end, these spin-offs won't be canon and won't matter in the story.
Gabriel Taylor
Its gonna underperform, I guarantee it. Look at the IGN dislikes, normalfags aren't buying it.
Henry Hernandez
Thats not the point, the point is the game looks like shit on its own merits and the only reason it is even getting looked at is because of the Metal Gear brand and the fox engine.
Liam Perez
Most of the dislikes are MGS spergs just like me. None of the normalfags care yet.
Brody Murphy
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Luke Diaz
WHY
Kevin Gray
Most people who bought metal gear aren't Kojima worshippers or waste their time on youtube video comment sections.
They'll see the Metal Gear logo "Hey! I like Metal Gear! WITH ZOMBIES? TAKE MY MONEY!"
You know its going to happen.
Colton Robinson
What merits? All they released was a cinematic trailer. No gameplay, no details about gameplay, nothing.
Jack Cruz
MGS faggots would hate their own series if you judged them solely on gameplay.
Adam Morris
Are you retarded? Take a look at the video again, even normalfags know that konami fucked over kojima. It's common knowledge, it's gonna fail
Ian Cook
In motion pictures they say when a series has reasonably gone as far as a series can reasonably get , it will eventually end up either in space or in a zombie post-apocalypse ; though videogames aren't equivalent to movies given the increasing casualisation and constant removal of gameplay in favor of storytelling and cinematic experiences we've seen the last 10 years or so one can make the claim they are certainly getting there and given how a recently released overhyped spees gaem is doing i guess they saw that opted for the later of the two
tl;dr who cares , the fans and media will eat that shit right up
Jace Thompson
I admit the very first post was a bait post but I don't know why I can't shake the feeling that no matter how good or bad this game is, or regardless of whatever Konami did people would have still complained regardless. Honestly not a single fibre in my body wants to pay cash for this and I don't think anything will change that but if it magically turns out good I wouldn't mind pirating it at all. After Peace Walker I doubt Kojima even cared about MGS.
Landon Roberts
I had yesterday a similar idea for a MGSV spinoff invoving zombies and what we saw from the trailer. A game where some MSF soldiers survive the attack on Mother Base and are rused by Cypher to go to Afghanistan, where the actual game begins. Once there the soldiers have to constantly fight or flee the proto-Skulls zombie things hunting them while trying to reunite the other missing or rused MSF. For the stealth portion of the game, if you're spotted you only have a few minutes to leave the area before every single zombie nearby reaches you, Oblivion imperial guard style, to fuck you up. It'd still reuse assets, be open world, play like MGSV, revolve around fighting hordes of zombies and the "SURVIVE" part of the title, and not use the FUCKING WORMHOLE OUTTA NOWHERE. It could even focus less on base management since the player wouldn't be able to stay on one place or would have to abandon the base/camp once it's location is found out.
Even my shitty idea is better than DUDE ZOMBIES IN ALTERNATE DIMENSION LMAO.
David Cox
Did you not see the reaction to Kojima descending like a god to his faithful at E3? even normalfags metal gear now because MUH RULES OF NATURE XD memms.
Kevin Brooks
The reaction was pretty cool but I still don't get why they haven't mentioned or shown gameplay related stuff on Death Stranding yet. "It's an action game with guns" is as vague as you can get. They're probably showing it in Gamescom, right?
Andrew Gonzalez
Heres what they could have done fucking go nuts, peace walker 2.
Asher Carter
They only just picked the engine as he is writing the script. So far hes said
I'm expecting a 3rd person shooter with magic. Not that surprising but ITS BETTER THAN FUCKIN' ZOMBIES.
Dominic Harris
Nice trips, but MGSV had zombies too :^) Third person shooter with magic would be pretty rad though, it's my favorite genre. I just hope it's not cover heavy.
Austin Diaz
Guys, what if: Kojima never left Konami, and this is a ruse to show you contrarian hipsters still only care about brand names and not a games quality.
Brody Watson
We're talking about low-effort cheapskates working on an IP whose original team mostly left. Where's the reused assets and gameplay?
Michael Powell
What if your mom orbits my dick?
Jason Baker
It did but they were a secondary issue. I fully expect this to be a $20 digital only release where you start a 'match' get 60 seconds to set up defences and you fight waves of zombies followed by a gekko or something even though thats not the right time for them and you collect items to upgrade your weapons and defenses between rounds. Naturally with optional big boss skins for $10 each.
Josiah Evans
I would much rather hope it's more an L4D or EDF campaign type missions than CoD horde survival but we'll see. I just hope they actually just do more than re purpose the combat portions of PP into shooting zombies.
Jason Ramirez
Well thats kind of my point, they could have just reused the assetts and made it Peace Walker 2 if they wanted 4 player online co-op so bad.
Imagine peace walker style small infiltration co-op online missions in the fox engine.
You dont even need a huge story beyond, "we think the boss is dead because he wont show up again for 9 years, lets continue his legacy!" leading to a bunch of them being found fucked up in MGSV.
Because lets be honest this is probably a minigame they were trying to force into MGSV and thats why you find those wandering mother base soldiers.
Lucas Taylor
Nigga that's a fake account
Austin Perry
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Carson White
I swear I don't even want to be hopeful but I don't want a bad game either.
Dylan Lopez
The Walking Dead is still popular right? I guess that be the reason. It's like the only thing that keeps Chris Hardwick employed.
Juan Rogers
Well fuck.
Brayden Sanders
I think the crux of the matter is everyone expected a cash in, but after rising people didnt expect rock bottom creativity.
Robert Brooks
Metal gear ZEKE was lost in the destruction of mother base, and Huey says it was most likely crushed by sinking debris.
giant unseen figure is clearly ZEKE
Ryan Campbell
Because there were zombies in MGSV
Michael Brown
But they weren't zombies like the guys in metal gear 4 Afghanistan weren't zombies, just soldiers confused by their own nanomachines.
Jaxon Rogers
Those were sick people, these things have no head just a giant crystal horn.
Elijah Green
They were people infected with parasites that made them zombies.
Zachary Parker
All you need is giant monsters and you get Lost Planet 3.
Robert Hernandez
They could have just gone the whole route of an alternate timeline where MGSV doesn't happen the way it does and make a completely new timeline for them to fuck around with, but without the parasite unit or zombie bullshit. I fucking hated the parasite unit, the entire parasite story compromised the blood lust and the gradual degradation and unraveling of the main characters. But I don't expect Konami listens to anyone since this exists
Ryan Turner
They could have just said "Heres what happens if Snake failed to stop Peace Walker"
Julian Green
But they were alive and could be healed.
Chase Miller
But that's just Fallout 3.
Jayden Foster
What great taste you have there, fellow consumer.
Nicholas Howard
Doesn't change the fact they acted pretty much like zombies
Julian Morgan
Did no one tell them that Umbrella Corps. is a shitty game?
John Adams
Probably was being worked on by the MGO team before Umbrella Corp was announced.
Gavin Myers
Maybe they were taking from CoD zombies game mods.
Dylan White
Nanomachines did it!
Grayson Howard
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Sebastian Diaz
Its really sad they went with zombies, at least some people dont care for them now but Konami was able to make MGS games without Kojima's involvement, and they have opportunities to make their own thing.
He didnt care after MGS after 3, and he only did 4 due to death threats against his team.
Evan Morales
Well fuck, now that only makes the theory of this being possibly scrapped DLC make even more sense.
Kojima did say he wanted to make a zombie game, too.
Jaxon Jenkins
My fear is zombies=shitty ai scirpting=fuck it make it a horde mode tower defense.
Peace walker showed metal gear can do fun co-op, but not lyke dis.
not lyke dis.
Colton White
Reminder that this is gonna sell pretty well and forever cement MGS as a zombie shooter game
Cooper Flores
HA HA HA HA WE OWN YOUR FAVORITE FRANCHISE AND WE WILL SHIT AND EYEFUCK IT OVER AND OVER UNTIL IT BEGS FOR MERCY, BUT WE WON'T STOP, AND THERE'S NOTHING YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT
Jeremiah Moore
HAHA SHOWS WHAT YOU KNOW, SILENT HILL IS FUCKING DEAD!
Landon Johnson
Shoo Shoo Slimy Jew!
Jayden Watson
HIT THE LEVER
Aiden Kelly
Pachishit is dead by 2018 i laugh on this corpse and at shanteafags now tom hullet writes for wayforward now.
In the trailer, you could even see the characters look like they were taken straight from MGO. That, and the fact they say "a possible single-player component" means they haven't really considered this to be anything more than a multiplayer game which they will probably fill with micro-transactions to try to squeeze a little bit more money from the MGSV name (in their own words: konami.com/games/eu/en/topics/13799/).
I don't think Konami isn't and hasn't been interested in big AAA productions for a while. This goes back just before MGSV came out when the newly appointed CEO stepped in during its development and is likely the main reason for rushing MGSV.
Connor Sanchez
*I don't Konami is or has been fug
Samuel Wood
At least the normalfags ain't buying it. The #FuckKonami meme seems to have everyone still hate them.
Nathan Cox
it has the feel of an original IP that some exec faggot thought wouldn't sell on its own, so they assigned the MGS IP to it for guaranteed sales from retarded fanboys.
cynical.
Elijah Thompson
I know he didn't get death threats but he's straight up admitted he regrets how popular Metal Gear got and how he wanted to work on new things So I think it was just that Konami were making him work on it cause it sold well
Hunter Smith
People who know who even Kojima is are not normalfags. normalfags are who walk into a game store and buy a game because it happens to be there or see a TV ad then buy the game.
Like I said, one TV ad on the walking dead time slot will bring in the normalfags. Don't count out the stupidity of normalfags that buy games "Because it has zombies in it!"
Yes and? His faithful don't equal the mainstream consumers. Its why every other game his worked on outside of Metal Gear failed to sell as much.
Which means they will go out and buy…Another Metal Gear. Konami releases another Metal gear…you see the pattern here?
Oliver Ramirez
Normalfags who know what MGS is even remotely know who Kojima is.
Ethan Parker
What is it going to be ? VR gone wrong ? Hypnotic brainwashing ? Nanomachines gone mad ? Coma/Trauma/Psycho Mantis fucking with the survivors ? I'm sure they'll try to corner some mindfuck near the ending. it's not like it could make that game better or worse
Elijah Butler
snatchers.
Matthew Phillips
Nor, mies is filtered to normalfag
Grayson Ortiz
Everyone I know says shit like this, and I completely agree, so why haven't the marketing textbooks changed to "people are sick of predictable cash-ins"?
Parker Cox
Because it still works. People keep crying about too many comic book movies and they keep making them because they still make money.
Brody Gomez
Because every company these days seems to be actively trying to commit business suicide.
Noah King
Quit lying, normalfags.
Why would you even have such a filter?
Michael Perry
IS NOTHING SACREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEED?
Nicholas Russell
oh wait, he did. It's not the same thing at all, amirite? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
David Young
….T-They're turning MGS into a-a fucking ZOMBIE SURVIVAL GAME!?!?!?!?!
Nathaniel Hill
Because zombie AI is simply to walk forward until it reaches something that it can hit, which makes developing the game effortless considering the fact that they already have an engine with amazing optimisation and they have a shitload of already existing assets they can use.
Aaron Rivera
Yeah but that didn't make up the entirety of the game. There is a difference between individual segments and an entire fucking game.
Mason Phillips
I think it could be fun. MGS5 despite everything else had solid combat with really nice movement and shooting controls. I think they''d work well in a zombie game if they put in a modicum of effort.
Aaron Myers
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Joseph White
End my life.
Alexander Jones
And Survival isn't a full game. It's basically a gimmick expansion to MGSV.
William Cruz
Is there any gameplay footage yet? If this game is essentially MGSV with Peace Walker missions, which I highly doubt, then maybe it'll be alright. I was hoping that TPP would have co-op like Peace Walker.
I don't think this game deserves to be a success after they fired Kojima, disbanded Kojipro, cancelled Silent Hills, and all the other shit Konami has pulled. However, if the game is "good" then I could see myself playing this. I really don't want to pay for it, though. Paying for this title would feel wrong, like I'd be crossing my personal, moral sensibilities in the process.
Luke Hill
So it's not standalone?
Liam Foster
Looks like you never played the original Metal Gear for the MSX2. Is good to see that the franchise has gone back to his roots and it looks fantastic. Kojima is overrated so Konami did the right thing they fired him.
Anthony Anderson
I agree fellow Metal Gear fan!
Liam Ward
I think it is, but think about Blood Dragon.
This honestly feels like people would've gotten upset about it. And watching all the normalfag-forums, the antagonism towards Survival is starting to remind pure hysteria.
Blake Scott
the kojimaniacs are scarier than these zombies
Christian Richardson
Didn't you see the replacement for Serious Sam 4?
Don't know if the thread is still around but we were violently shitposting in it yesterday.
Everybody has got to milk the cash cow, even though it's dying. It's shameless and disgusting, but that's how it is.
John Flores
Dubs of truth verify Konami is too scared to take risks anymore, like most dying behemoth corporations.
Isaiah Brooks
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Joseph Hernandez
*company, my bad
Jaxson Garcia
Because all the assets are already made and zombie games are still a fad.
There is a small chance this could turn out good, but I wouldn't count on it.
Nathaniel Brooks
You mean as shit as MGSV?
Dylan Smith
MGSV was shit but it was also barely 1/3 finished and was yet another sequel in a franchise the creator wanted to end over a decade ago. This lazy shit is just inexcusable.
Anthony Howard
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Brandon Sanchez
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Henry Russell
Fucking come on.
Aiden King
It's still true. No one who legitimately likes the previous games can seriously say MGSV was a good and worthwhile addition to the series.
John Morales
top kek, the cherrypicking in this is impressive.
Ian Rodriguez
Go kill yourself, Kojima-drone.
Jacob Cooper
It is. Moreso than peace walker. Your argument is shitty.
Kayden Evans
Yes, this unfinished game with microtransactions, half the features and gratuitous retcons is way better than Peacewalker. Blew me the fuck out right there you did.
Liam Foster
That had the excuse of being a handheld game, V felt like a focus tested Metal Gear in some ways.
Dominic Wood
Get cancer and die
Carson Reyes
2016 is such a roller coaster.
Wyatt Long
Doesn't mean shit when the core gameplay of PW is shit and the story is just a shitty polished version of Portable Ops. If shooting at bullet sponges is your idea of fun, then alright I guess.
Portable Ops was better though. V may be shit, and peace walker may control like pure silk but the gameplay and level design is just pure autism
Not an argument, how's it goin reddit.
Owen Cook
Oh the irony
Dominic Carter
The normalafag plague we have for one. The other term was a leddit friendly alternative.
Kevin Flores
If you like Splinter Cell: Blacklist and other Third Person Shooters, sure. Most people prefer Metal Gear Solid to be a stealth game though.
Chase Morgan
Portable ops was better than PW as it actually had pretty fun bossfights and barely a fraction of grinding for staff and resources PW had.
Isaac Cruz
I actually played Blacklist and it doesn't even compare in quality, what are you talking about
Charles Butler
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Camden Lee
peace walker fucking sucked, you played it for the story and that was it.
Dominic Wright
this. Only issue was the lifeless levels and little polish due to it being released early in the PSP cycle.
Don't get me started on the shit framerate and how almost every boss acted the exact same.
even the story was mediocre, completely forgettable barring some stylistic elements. I can't even remember if there were any human bosses.
Logan Perez
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Jack Cook
yes, all of them came in helicopters, tanks, or road vehicles.
Leo Murphy
As long as it's the metal gear co-op game that I have been waiting for ever to have, then I'm ok with it.
I'm getting on the contrarian train for this one. Fuck you guys, I hope it sells to all the normalfags and you faggots get buttblasted as fuck.
Best part is, if it fails, I win and if it's a success, I win. You know what I mean? Smug all over and since it's blatantly obvious that konami didn't spend a cent on development and just recycled assets from the previous game, it'll make them money anyway.
Don't you just love it when you can't lose?
Nathaniel Thomas
fucking vinny kek
Isaac Davis
People cum buckets over monster hunter and that's the exact same shit.
It's realistic fam. Also it's designed as a co-op game which reduces a lot of that.
Caleb Rivera
He encapsulated exactly how I fucking felt watching this trailer for the first time so I just had to share it with you guys
Jason Edwards
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John Foster
Completely overrated. Remind me why peace walker is hailed as one of the best, again? Even the worst metal gear games manged to fit in SOME character in the bosses. Even MGS2's shitty bosses had SOME semblance of life to them. People can shit on the writing all they want, but it's better than
The worst part of MGSV was the battles with the monster-type enemies. I'd understand wanting a coop metal gear game, or even a zombie one, but the fact of the matter is, the wolbachia bullshit enemies are cancerous to fight against. Not even any gore, and the game isn't built around survival horror so it'd be better off just being DLC at that point.
Notice how you didn't say "fun." What the fuck kind of pseudo-arcade game has realistic boss battles. Are you retarded? That doesn't mean jack shit. The game should be scaled for solo players in the scenario that they can't access the internet or the servers get pulled offline. If it was a co-op only game I'd understand, but the second they allow you to approach it differently, the game should still be fun to play with that playstyle. Not a bullet sponge chore.
Brody Brown
Why let that bother you? Nintendo has been doing it to their fans for decades and there are still a handful of drones that will buy the most blatant cash grab.
Easton Thompson
Nice logic, Mr. Retardo. I guess you're right, weebshit is just shit. See how I win?
Where's Bobby Kotick when you need him?
Kayden Robinson
kill yourself
monster hunter is shit. PW is shit. and this new game is going to be shit, even if you are contrarian about it.
Nathan Kelly
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Hunter Edwards
Oh, you predictable, little, simple-minded monkey. Sometimes I almost wonder how some of you can even remember to breathe.
Caleb Lopez
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Asher Torres
That's not an argument. :^)
Xavier Jackson
ah-ah, careful there, little monkey, you don't want to spend all your brain power on trying to come up with a coherent thought.
David Price
What's it like being retarded?
Isaac Gutierrez
Oh look, another monkey has joined the fun and that makes two. It looks like this one is going bananas too.
Adrian Hill
Do they really think it will after this blunder?
Jack Ward
I actually want to play it for the Fox Engine. I love that shit.
Gabriel Cruz
They are jsut milking whatever they can because they got fucked over with pachinko because japanese government cracks down on gabling due to hosting the olympic games next. SNK is already coming back.
Landon Diaz
OUCH
Isaiah Myers
Simplest answer is so that they can reuse assets. There were already the infected soldiers from MGSV, so the only thing they'd need to do is tweak to AI, and reskin.
Little to no development with preexisting assets. That just screams PROFIT.
Jace Johnson
nigga im the same fuckin guy lmao
Easton Perez
I'm really curious why they didn't just do MGS X Castlevania. This is retarded anyway, but at least with that you could get a lot more than just crystal zombies. Just say Mother Base got taken to wherever Castlevania goes when it's not on Earth.
Xavier Long
Requesting that pic of Konami's offices on fire while Kojima thumbs up
Landon White
They're punished zombies.
Jayden Harris
Fuck, Space would have been so much better than zombies. Imagine having a Mother Moon Base.
Nolan Walker
If this ends up being anything like Lost Planet 2, I'd probably get actually get it. But if it's just Konami's version of State of Decay 2, I don't know why I wouldn't just get State of Decay 2 instead.
Lucas Scott
The close-ups and slow-mo shots of the spears and that weird spinny arrow really annoy me, it reminds me of the weird obsession Umbrella Corps had with the wrist guards and ice axes.
Is this some weird new trend in Japan where all these companies of hacks try to overdesign and force some equipment or weapon as a unique selling point? Discussed this earlier with a friend and put Attack on Titan forward as the possible source, a lot of people liked that show just because of the 3D Manoeuvre Gear.
Jap freaks or actual Nippon-faggots let me know if I'm on to something here? It pisses me off so much because it's lazy bullshit.
Justin Morgan
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Jeremiah Smith
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Brayden Diaz
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John Anderson
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Isaiah Campbell
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Brody Watson
Hah.
Zachary Fisher
So it that it? Is Konami finally dead?
Angel Price
Well I fucked up on that, should have looked up their pachinko trailers.
Jaxson Richardson
……so this game looks like some pretty gay shit right here.
Oliver Murphy
why the bow, why does every game seem to have bows now, i like them but it feels like every shooter game has to have a bow now
Aaron Bell
Because guns are a symbol of the cis hetero masculine colonialist patriarchy, and bows are okey because they were used by the indians whose land and women we raped.
Sebastian Moore
As someone who is 1/32 Native American I am disgusted by this shameless appropriation of my people's culture.
Jackson Jones
Sorry for my whiteness is this better
Jaxon Collins
I honestly hope so. Like at least SNK realized even with their pachinko machines they were still recognized more for their video games, even their ports made more money than pachinkoshit I think. Konami on the other hand actively shut down any video game they had development on that wasnt PES or Metal Gear because they thought they can move on, and apparently since the government over in Japan is ready to shut down pachinko in preparation for the next olympic games it really does seem like they realized they made a mistake and are desperate to patch things up.
Liam Sullivan
Exactly, the only way things like this will change is if the majority of people stop watching those movies or buying those games. They dont care whether we like it or not because we are the minority. So far, the majority of people enjoy that type of entertainment so why should they cater to the minority?
Angel Williams
I'm not really sure about that, that trailer looks more like they're trying to destroy the franchise Kojima left them just out of spite. Not like it matters, they dun goofed too much and too hard these last few years to be forgiven. I will enjoy watching them crumble.
Brandon Nguyen
God damn it. Fuck imageboards, they've conditioned me to like cock. Sometimes I think you guys are the real jews.
Aaron Hernandez
I'm just going to assume no one posted this.
The same reason zombies were a huge fad in video games the past 10 years.
They are very fucking easy to program. Infact, MGSV already has zombies in it to begin with.
They literally just have to design new environments. Environments that MAY have even already been designed but unused because they fucked Kojima in the ass and didn't let him finish his magnum opus.
TLDR: Because it's fucking cheap and will make them an ass ton of money compared to what they put in.
Gabriel Cox
It's hard to tell if they want to kill it from spite or if they don't know what to do, according to a Q&A from Konami's western branch this fucking game is their attempt to patch things up.
But I agree, will be fun seeing what they try to do at this rate. I won't be surprised if they go the Silent Hill route and give it 2 terrible live action films, a terrible HD port, and a dungeon crawler spin off by some dude who calls himself "The guy who loves Metal Gear more than you do"
Nathan Long
Or better yet, Tactical Spooky Action just get all the gold medals in the potatolympics.
John Russell
You know, I love zombie stuff, I love big dumb spinoffs, I love Metal Gear, so really, this should be the ultimate thing for me.
But it just isn't. I was skeptical when it was announced, I think that god awful generic hard cut scare cue filled trailer did more damage to the game than it should have. I was kind of interested at the prospect of the base building and supply gathering of MGS:V being thrown into a survival horror setting, simply turning it into an expansion could've been kind of neat.
Build your base by scavenging supplies, wander around your makeshift motherbase, where you can see soldiers you rescued stabbing zombies lined up along the fence with their makeshift spears, venture out into the barren unknown whenever the mood strikes or to complete missions, slowly build a device that can send you back home. I'd be down for that sort of thing, if it was basically just Peace Walker but with zombies.
But now they've said that it might have a singleplayer component, which leads me to believe that it'll be solely multiplayer focused. You'll be dropped into a lobby with 1-3 other shmucks and you'll kill wave after wave of bad AI zombies and that'll be all the game has to offer.
Couple that with the fact that it's pretty much guaranteed to be riddled with Microtransactions, and any interest I had in this as an idea is fucking gone.
If it can't even appeal to me, ideally the perfect consumer who should want this on idea alone, then it's fucked six ways to sunday come release.
Jacob Murphy
Its symbolic of the Metal Gear series.
Wyatt Watson
Why stop there? Lets port MGS5 to 3DS as a visual novel like Konami did for SH1 on the GBA
Bentley Davis
I think they are genuinely just clueless, out of touch old business japs who don't give a fuck about the content of what they create, just the profits. I watched this whole thing happening to Silent Hill. In the beginning, they probably kept their hands out of it, as evidenced by the fact that basically one guy did all the cinematics for the first two games, sleeping in the office overnight. Then when they started to realize people liked it, as it developed a fanbase, they started to get too involved. "Let's do this! Let's do that!" but it was already out of the hands of the true talent who made Silent Hill great by 4, and so they fumbled with it and mangled it beyond recognition.
I had always wished Silent Hill had someone like Kojima who could stick with the series and keep it consistent while evolving it, and then my wish was answered when Silent Hills was announced.
And then it was fucking dead.
Hunter Edwards
Ye it could have been cool as a silly expansion Red Dead Undead Nightmare style. You could have Snake fighting previous bosses but undead, just a silly expansion would have been a lot of fun. But nope, they are taking this very seriously.
Samuel King
Exactly, Undead Nightmare was exactly what I was thinking of. That game getting a weird zombie spinoff makes even less sense than having them show up in MGS, given the series' proclivity for mixing the supernatural with reality.
But fuck, man. The last thing I want is horde survival coop out of my stealth action game.
Nathaniel Nelson
But that's the thing user, this is being created with as little effort as possible They're reusing assets left and right They didn't even make new proper characters, they're just using the MGO character creator
Landon Jenkins
I bet The Patriots are behind this!
Liam Lewis
CARLOS DID NOTHING WRONG
Kayden Gutierrez
This right here is why I only lurk weekly or so anymore. Is there a decent board out there without this type of person?
Michael Fisher
It looks like fun, I'll buy it if its good. I never held any loyalty to Kojima, MGS4 killed any belief I had in him and MGSV further cemented it, Poops Walker was shit as well.
Dylan Barnes
This is obviously a false-flag attack to further tarnish and destroy the beloved reputation of the MGS franchise. They want to torpedo anything Kojima touched, even if it leaves them owning the rights to nothing but a pile of ashes.