Unpozzed Christians Defened the Sanctity of Life

Fuck off with your coon runes you filthy facebook nigger.

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When every fool is given a voice,
And every fool is given the right
Through the roar of the maddening crowd,
You just might hear the drums resounding.

A momentary lapse of treason on the millennial stage,
A linear history manifest; a mass delusion by bequest.
Now, in this age of treason, a million righteous fools
Invoke a million Gods, as in the age of stone.

Christians and Zionist Jews, Crescent Moon peasants,
Marxist tyrants and childless hypocrites,
Tell me where the truth lies,
And I'll tell you which lie is truth,
Another fucking cliché to misconstrue!

Men of usury, count your coin - you'd do better to count your days,
Women of perjury - you'll rue the night you gave yourself away,
Narcotic child; come, you'll see -
I fear not for your soul has fled from thee.

So, beware the lure of religion
And beware the voice of idealism,
Cast off the garb of your eloquence,
Your romantic vision and their pretence.

Fuck them all, all ye of little faith
Let the wolves awaken!
Fuck them all - each and every one!
A thousand plagues upon them!

"By god you're cunning, they never knew,
Behind the vision there was you,
You are cold, like a shadow,
Like a knife in the lives of the shallow."

Fuck them all, each and every one -
A thousand plagues upon them!

Fuck them all! Salt the earth and betray them!
If there's a god above, then hear my call:
A thousand plagues upon them!
One last request, to wish them Hell.

My epitaph… my final word:
A thousand plagues upon them!

Really spiritualizes the Unicode Astral Plane.

FPBP

Hah, nobody even checked your dubs cuz you're a fags
Yeah and rabbi Yeshua was black

On one hand whites having abortions means less whites, on the other it's a type of perverse eugenics. Does a mother, that is capable of killing her own child, deserve to pass on her genes?

Most mammal mothers fight to death to protect their children. Yet these brainwashed cunts voluntarily let some kike "doctor" murder their child in the womb.

Christcuck anti-abortion propaganda can backfire by hitting non-whites (pic related). Wouldn't be the first time christcucks boosted non-white birth rates.

Anti-abortion is good but
Fuck off back to your containment board. A thread died for this. Investigation into the charlotte false flag was interrupted for this.

Low-IQ sodomite degeneracy.

Or in other words, you don't believe in the fourteen words, and are willing to throw white babies into a blender just because you know it will also catch a bunch of brown babies in it as well.

Listening to racist liberals try to justify keeping abortion around is always a great time, especially if they try and drag religion into it. The problem with your logic, as always, is that some of us place a higher value on white life than the shit on the bottom of our shoes.

If you hate niggers more than you love white people, then you are not a White Nationalist. Period, end of discussion.

If abortion had never been legalized, we would have been forced to fight the race war decades ago, because the spics and niggers would have bred beyond the Federal capacity to support them, which would have forced the issue whether anyone liked it or not. Abortion has made our situation worse, not better, because letting them keep their numbers above our replacement level but not at the explosive levels of Africa or Mexico means we are still losing ground demographically, but no such much that the system cannot be strung along for another fifty years or so.

By making this argument, you are pretending that the slow boil that's killing us now only because we are having trouble convincing others it exists is superior to the fast boil no one can deny.

Holla Forums was a Christian board long before any of you newfags showed up. Any revolution that wants to return to traditionalism will be Christian or it will fail. Hitler understood that. If you do not want to be a part of it, fine, but if you still do not understand why it is necessary, then you are a fool who has failed to correctly answer the Kingmaker Questions but still dreams himself an enlightened man.

Aren't the majority of babies aborted black?

If abortion is illegal, won't only niggers and other criminal lowlifes be the ones to get abortions to begin with?

yeah niggers are equal to whites goyim, you can trust me, I'm yaweh's son. eheheh

Accelerationism doesn't work. Look at South Africa. The longer we can stave off the brown eclipse, the better.

Yes. And the whites getting abortions are usually liberals or drug-addicted trash. We don't want their genes to be propatavistockd anyways. Abortion is one of the few forms of natural selection left in the west. We absolutely require it.

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revolutions/wars/times of chaos, under the guise of which race war and kike gassings can be carried out are on pretty much a timer
year 0 the rise of an empire war/revolt/outburst
year 25-30 if a generation after they want to war again
year 100-150 there is a possibility of a crisis war, often a seccesion war
year 250 the empire collapses into chaos again no later than year 250 from the start of the empire
that is why conservatism is a good thing, past the 100 year mark one tries to maintain as much of civilization as possible
and it worked pretty good in america, but obviously 1776 is almost 250 years ago, 9 years left on the timer before mandatory implosion
I think as these war and revolutions happen acros the world, the meaningful ones, we must try our best to steer these towards improving the world
that includes kike gassings, nig exterminations, self improvement through glory, and estabelishing white ethnostates based on
roman law
greek philosophy
germanic freedom to bear arms
the next meaningful war will probably happen in either USA, Sweden, or South Africa
what a time to be alive

I know bait but still.

It's about fighting back intelligently.
Pic related

There's nothing about immigration in the Bible.
The verse often quoted regarding refugees and immigration is Leviticus 19:34 which is:
"The stranger that sojourneth with you shall be unto you as the homeborn among you, and thou shalt love him as thyself; for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the LORD your God."
en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/sojourn
Sojourn: Noun: A temporary stay.

The confusion comes from certain of the more popular translations using words like 'residing' or 'staying' as opposed to 'sojourning'. There isn't a huge amount of difference in meaning but one who wishes to pervert the word can push that it is speaking of population replacement, multiculturalism and the rest - even though it clearly does not make sense when you put it in context. The more literal translations that use this more archaic language however give us no such problems.

There is nothing at all about multiculturalism, in fact one of the pre-requisites for people to live amongst the Israelites was that they be of the faith. Those who worshiped certain foreign gods were commanded to actually be stoned, as in the case of Moloch worshipers.
Leviticus 20:2:
"And unto the sons of Israel thou dost say, Any man of the sons of Israel, and of the sojourners who is sojourning in Israel, who giveth of his seed to the Molech, is certainly put to death; the people of the land do stone him with stones;"

Do be aware that it is Moloch that Jews worship today, even going so far as to wear his star and call it the 'star of david'. This would mean that if we are using Scripture that is talking about temporary stays as an excuse to funnel in immigrants, then we can use Scripture from the very same book to justify stoning every Jew to death.

This is a slightly confusing topic for some. Firstly, the 'Jews' were never chosen; Judaism is not synonymous with Israelite (see 2nd pic related).

Secondly, the Israelites were chosen so as to show the glory of God to the rest of humanity. We see this many times in the Bible where God chooses the most vile, weak and pathetic people so that His glory can shine through them - and because they were so lowly prior to God's intervention, none would be fooled into thinking that they themselves (the human) had achieved whatever great thing it may be - and God would be rightly recognised for His great power.

What we actually see in the Bible is the repeated failures of Israelites with God constantly sending prophets and Kings to try to save them and bring them back on the right path, only for the Israelites to either reject or murder them, and in the cases where they believed upon hearing - it was common that the very next generation would go astray. Eventually God destroys Israel, leaving only Judea. Judea is warned in the final book of the Old Testament (Malachi) that if it does not return to God it too will be destroyed. Jesus dies around 30AD, the temple is destroyed in 70AD, and the Jews are then scattered about the world as the flee from Roman "persecution" (justice). Point is they were given 1 generation to return to God after He sent Christ, and they did not embrace Him; so they were destroyed just as He promised.

It is also worth pointing out that with Adam, all the world was 'God's chosen', and again with Noah all his sons - Japheth (seen as the father of white nations), Shem (tawny) and Ham (dark) were God's chosen. All of these people or their descendants would stop worshiping God, or at least corrupt their faith significantly - to the point that God decided to find someone who was supposed to show the rest of the world how great life is when you have relationship with God. This person would be Abraham. So it's not quite that God 'chose the Jews' in a way we might pick a country and make a judgement like "Italy is better than France". Completely different scenario.

… Then there's the more important fact that today it is the Christian's who are the 'chosen' people.
1 John 2:23:
Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.
Galatians 3:29
And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

Israel is the Kingdom of God. Jesus tells us that His Kingdom is not of this world. It is a spiritual Kingdom, a heavenly Kingdom, not an Earthly Kingdom. It has nothing to do with a geographical location in Palestine.
John 18:36
Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.

Hope that helps.

babbys with paralizing diseases, like down syndrome, should be aborted.
The trash that gets abortions does not deserve to have children.

And where did your brain skip a thought to get to that conclusion you idiot? Truly, niggers like you who use coon runes have had their tiny brains burned out from goybook.

So fanneh joke.

The thing w/ abortion is that its something like 88% non-whites fetuses.

Without it, there would have been 10 millions extra Whites and 73 millions non-Whites…

This!

Y u mad, bro?

Accelerationism wouldn´t have worked, not without the real leadership and organization that is still lacking. +FBI infiltrations.

Christianity is a rip-off from judaism that in turn is a rip-off from other religions.

Checked for an excellent post, brother.

Christianity wasn't created by whites, therefore no person who calls themselves a white nationalist/national socialist should ever follow it.
Christianity is a foreign (semite) universalist, egalitarian religion. You can't be a proper Christian or a proper NatSoc at the same time, you have to either be faithful to one or the other. Most Christians are incapable of going full natsoc, and end up landing on civic nationalism. Usually promoting things like anti-abortionism, "based negroes" and religious meritocracies.

I have yet to see any Christian (even those on 8pol who call themselves "redpilled") fully support white nationalism/separatism. They always put their religion above their people, which is completely unworkable at a time where whites are facing the threat of genocide.

Norse pagans worship Odin, a mixed race mongrel who murdered his grandfather for no reason. Ancient European religions were and are retarded.

If you sterilize the black males then nobody would reproduce with the black females.

This.

You see, this is why Christians cannot be trusted. You intentionally shit on your people's history, while worshiping the god of the semites with no qualms.

It would be easier to sterilize the females, since it's much easier for one male to impregnate many woman than for one woman to be impregnated by many men.

Literally gas yourself faggot. In Matthew 1 it clearly traces Jesus' lineage back to being a jew.

You are a faggot. Jesus is speciesist and extremely bigoted against others, rightously so.because of 1 corinthians 15:44, ecclesasties 3:18-20, and romans 8
Sage for slide bait thread.

I'm not Scandinavian and I'm not going to worship someone I don't believe in. If Odin and his lot actually existed then why didn't they fight for their believers instead of allowing Christians to conquer them? They either don't exist or they don't care.

You're also not a kike. If you are white, you are more closely related to a Scandinavian than a desert dweller. The bible was written at a time before the jews intermixed with the eastern Europeans, so they probably looked more like modern-day goatfuckers than anything.
If yahweh was real then why is he letting white Christians get raped and replaced by brownskins in their own nations while propagating the jewish race? Well, maybe he does exist and is actually helping his chosen tribe instead of gullible white goyim pretending to be hebrews.
If yahweh really cared about the white race why are the majority of christians now Mestizos and Africans?

Christianity is a religion created by ancient arabs and is mainly practiced by tribal indios and sub saharan africans. It's not for us. Just let it go.

user, Christianity isn't pro-tribal. That's called being a snubby Jew, who hates the Gentiles.

THOSE THAT DO NOT FOLLOW CHRIST WILL ROT IN HELL WITH THE COMMUNISTS

DEUS VULT YOU HELLBOUND NIGGERS

What's your opinion on based protestant negroes?

I would not be surprised at all if God, the one true God of all Creation, intervened on behalf of all the world's peoples at one time or another. It would not surprise me at all if the exploits of Herakles or Wotan were based on a man of God, and stories of divine intervention occasionally true events where God showed His hand. Subsequent corruption or misunderstanding has likely made it become what it is today, or even shape how was it interpreted then. Now I'm not saying that we should venerate the stories of other faiths, and in many cases it is obvious that stories were either fiction or something demonic - but when tales speak of those things that are in line with God, such as the extermination of the giants - then it may well be that God was involved; and wouldn't you feel foolish if when you get to heaven God informs you that you spent many of your days mocking one of His great servants who did battle against evil for the sake of humanity?

That said we still shouldn't consider such stories 'canon' for we cannot know. My point is simply that when a tale of old speaks of something that is clearly good and in line with the intentions of God - like the purging of various evil monstrosities - then one should recognise the value in those stories, even if they are no more than fiction. They still have a righteous moral in line with the true God. It is when a religion starts telling you to bugger your uncle and your brother, to sacrifice your children and to do all manner of vile and ungodly things - like those practiced and believed by many a muslim, a native american, and even some ancient Europeans (for there is in fact evidence of human sacrifice, a clearly abominable act - killing evil men is one thing, butchering men in perverse rituals another all together) - that one should immediately cry 'infidel' and point out the evil that is apparent.

Our purpose is to have a relationship to God, to follow Him and to do His will.

Checked.

If Christianity was jewish, the kikes wouldn't be fighting it constantly with such burning hatred. That they're exploiting some people's lack of understanding of Christianity for their purposes is another story…

God created the nations to be separate and unique. He drew their boundaries. They have BOUNDARIES. The peoples that inhabit various lands, have those lands belonging to those peoples. There is no reason for a Nigerian to live in Scotland, and the Bible does not promote such a thing. In fact it actively discourages men of different nations becoming one.

It may well be that in the next life I shall live alongside a man who, on this Earth, was a negro. But we shall all have new bodies then, we shall be in a changed state. I do believe that we should spread the good news to all the world - even to those you consider lesser. Whether they believe it or not is up to them, and from what I've seen most of the other races pervert the faith and muddy it with their own vile beliefs - loa and voodoo versions of 'Christianity' exist, and those blasphemers who have caused such corruption deserve to die, and should be executed. That said if some people want go to be missionaries; fine. That does not mean the people of the various nations get to live anywhere but their own nation though.

It is perfectly fine and in line with Scripture that nations remain unique and distinct, inhabited by their own people (for a nation IS a people, and the geographic nation is the land inhabited by THOSE people). So there you go, you have now met a Christian who believes in White Nationalism and a separation for every nation from every other.

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people from 2,000 years ago aren't the same as you see today, do you honestly believe that the jews with the fair/light skin that controls everything were desert people with bronze/brownish skin color living in extremely hot environments?

you honestly have to be a fucking retard to not realize that "white" kikes are not the same as the radioactive suncucked kikes from the past.

males could race mix

If society is racist enough to sterilize female negroes, they'd be racist enough to shame race-mixers and put black rapists to death.

Wrong. Read Genesis 11:6 He stopped them because they could do what ever they set their minds to and without God. Independence from God iis evil so He stopped them.

Yes technically that means they are seperate. But the intent was to prevent them from working on a common goal of independence from God.

You are close but off. Kikes of today are not real jews. They are babylonian chaldeans of jeremiah 50. That's why they hate real jews, the old kind, and Christians with a burning passion along with ideology based in it. Tis why they subverted real semite(TM) religions over 300 years ago. More if you count the long con. Kikes need gassing regardless.
Sage goes in all fields.

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think of it as preventing future crime and welfare.

It costs 60k a year to house a black in prison in CA.

Pay black males 100k dollars to sterilize.

That's D/C garbage.
Whites are talented and that's why they were able to build great Cathedrals and so on. They aspire to the infinite. Why not embrace heritage and not disrespect the pagans?
There are Christians in Africa and they haven't built much else in testimony to the divine. In fact, those are probably missionaries among them that are uplifting them, if any accomplishment.

This entire thread.

Acts 17:24-26

Let me break this down so you can understand. God created everything. From one Man (Adam) God created ALL nations. Nations are people, tribes, groups … nations. The nations of people were given boundaries - that is one people was given boundaries for their people to dwell within. This was done by God. It was not that God made cities for lots of different peoples to live, it is not that God did not create boundaries separating different tribes. God created the different nations, and God separated them with boundaries, and God chooses if and when they shall be destroyed.

Thus it is foolish to say that God wanted all the people of the Earth to be mixed, or that Christians should be open to immigration or multiculturalism. Being kind to a foreigner visiting your lands is nothing at all like inviting them to live amongst you - it is YOUR NATION, that is YOUR PEOPLE, distinct from there's and separated by God ordained boundaries. It is obvious that we are not supposed to be mixed together.

No matter what religion you follow, if you teach people to submit to authority without thinking they will be subject to subversion. Christianity is anti-intellectual and authoritarian. You need people who can think, and understand why not to do things that will end up hurting them. That's why catholic girls are such sluts, because they just rebel against the baseless authority. If the based pastors had any intellectual honesty instaed of being indoctrinators people might not be so fucking stupid. ==There is no god above reason==

What you're calling god here is evolution/natural law which is not sentient and doesn't care about you.

Preety much this.

I did not disagree with that. I just stated the intent by qouting the Bible. It is possible to have fully segregayd nations that work together globally(i.e one world government). Which God would stop of course because they could do anything Genesis 11:6. Like say build a tower to heaven?
Sage goes in all fields for this slide thread you faggots.

segregayd* How did I fail that so badly?

nu/pol/ retard. That's how the board died everybody.

I think it would be better called history from a secular perspective, but the point is that the Bible is clearly not opposed to the idea of an 'ethnostate'. In fact the Bible says such things are ordained by God.

Seriously lad what's wrong with an anti-abortion thread? Why this level of hostility and attempted derailment? Surely even one promising white life that is ended before it had a chance is a tragedy worth fighting over? A white murdered unjustly when he is an adult would enrage you, so why not an infant that could never defend itself? Even if it wouldn't directly save white lives (which it would) it would be a method of combating feminism, one of the jew's most powerful avenues of attack; which could wake up a lot of white women and make them see through the lies, which would cause the whole yarn of deception to unravel and would lead them to ending up as potential allies to our cause, and mothers for our children.

Your arguments regarding the attempted derailment have been shut down and now you're just saying "slide thread for faggots". You're a cancerous shill who is actively harming the White Nationalist cause by restricting information that could save confused white women. If you are truly one of us then you should realise that you are doing the will of Jew; you are helping them attack our faith, and you are protecting feminism from criticism. As you know the Jews destablise nations by undermining the faith with their anti-Christian attacks, the family with feminism and the national cohesion with immigration and manipulative distorted version of history via education. You are actively aiding them in attacking Christianity and defending feminism. Inadvertently or not; your actions mark you as our enemy.

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"much of the people" should say "much of the bible". Apologies for the mistake.

The problem with all that is that you Biblical "god" has made mistakes before and had to correct them, like flooding the world, chasing adam and eve from paradise and having to send jesus to earth, or he send himself to earth as jesus… or he became jesus, but somehow was also god….. and i've gone blind.

I don't think a true and genuine religion would need theology to make sense, it would need theology to explain the deeper aspects of it.

Germanic religion doesn't need theology to make sense of the stuff we have, unless it's to explain the esoterics or puzzle together the original culture, because it makes sense all of it's own.

There is no question about good and evil or the nature of free will, because we are not monotheists and those concepts no longer matter.

LOL. Ok then explain to me why God takes pleasure in the death of His saints psalms 116:15? What is the reasoning behind God being pleasured by His saints dieing?
Wow because the shit stains of writing by men surely is more impressive than God's words themselves.it is not, that was sarcasm see psalms 138:2
Philosophy, what men think, is directly against what God says in Collosians 2:8.
Go back to your containment board you revelation 2:9 >>>/christian/
Sage goes in all fields for slide thread.

This world only makes sense if several divinities have power and control about different aspects of the world, it's highly unlikely a single monotheistic god would create a world like this.

Fuck off race traitor, there would be no Semitic hegemony over our nations if not for those who worship a Semite and embrace their ideology. There will be no saving our peoples from the Semites without first saving them from Semitic mind viruses. All Christcucks are race traitors.

Not to mention abortion is only thing keeping the nog population in check in Ameriqua

Actually, the cow Audhumbla licked (sculpted) the figures of Ymir and Buri from the primordial ice, the armpits of Ymir created one set of higher giants and the feet another set of lesser giants.

Wotan and his brother has roots with both the armpit giants and with Buri. Technically speaking there is no indication that Ymir is the grandfather of Wotan, only Buri has that honor, Ymir was created first so is most likely much older then Buri.

Because Ymir was essentially a gigantic sentient universe that constantly spawned monstrosities from his feet, Wotan, Vile and Ve murdered Ymir so that his blood would flood the universe and kill all the feet-giants, then they created our universe from the remains of Ymir.

There is no race, because there is no biological foundation for the Gods, the Gods are the first spiritual man, on which we are based.

Subject fixed. Stop worshiping a semite.

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user pls. Salvation comes from the Jews, Jesus Himself said "I haven't come to do away with the Law, but to fulfill it." every.single. spiritual gift we have as Christians stems directly from the Jewish people. Remember we're the ones grafted onto the vine.

While I appreciate the anti-abortion sentiment–I personally was jailed for participating in an abortion clinic blockade–arguing that Christianity has no affiliation with Judaism is not only uneducated Biblically-speaking it's more or less delusional.

Holla Forums's hatred of Israel notwithstanding, the entire world owes the very fact that we can attain salvation at all to Father Abraham and his sacrifice under the great covenant he was in with God. This is what opened the door for God to then sacrifice His own Son Jesus Christ on our behalf to redeem us from the destruction of eternal damnation for our sins. I, for one, gratefully bless Abraham. I'm thankful for salvation every day.

God did not make mistakes. God gave us free will and punishes us just as a Father punishes his child. The child still has free will, still has the power to disobey his parent; but if he does there will be consequences. So too with us and God.

It's embarrassing that you claim to be a 'White Nationalist' and have read so little of the myriad great white thinkers that you do not know the answers to this stuff.

Like I said it doesn't, many reasons are given in the Bible itself. If you want some in-depth answers then you have masses of writings from the great Church Fathers who are considered divinely inspired by many, whose philosophies have shaped how we see the world.

Clearly you do not understand language very well. It's not saying God likes to kill those who love Him. It's saying that those who have died for Him, for their beliefs, for righteousness; those people He loves, and those who have such conviction He is proud of.

If you are completely unaware, at this time there was a great 'philosohpical war' between Sophists and Stoics. Christianity and Stoicism actually got on very well, but back then the use of rhetoric to convince people was heavily employed. This is warning against philosophies of men being used to twist the truth and convince people of lies. Even non-Christians at Holla Forums hate bad arguments that use rhetoric, strawmans, logical fallacies and the like to convince people.

Not according to Antisthenes. Not according to Socrates. Not according to Aristotle.

Wew it's like this is 15 years ago and people still don't believe the Jews are undermining the nation. It's like they've never read the ways in which they wage this war. It's like they've no understanding of how the jews conducted their revolutions historically. You're an imbecile of the highest order.

How you people still do not know thats Jews =/= Judeans, I have no idea. One of my posts has a good explanation of why the term 'judeo-christian' is wrong and idiotic. I recommend you read it.

It really feels like Holla Forums knows less about most subjects today than it did 5 years ago.

Margret Sanger is a goddamned hero.

Then please pardon me if my terms were somehow inaccurate by your definition. I'm simply using the commonly associated ones. That being said, my basic premise is the Biblical one. Salvation is of the Jews. Christianity itself could not exist without the historical fact of the lives of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.

This is like saying science gave us so much, so global warming must be true. See that's what ideology does, it takes the truths of the past and bundles in bullshit on top and expects everyone to believe it because of the rest.

How is that even remotely an apt analogy to the fact God chose Abraham to bring about salvation to the world user?

No, you feel like your treason is no longer accepted as the norm and thus you also feel the need to shill for a foreign religion lest you be rightfully turned away. No one who claims to be a European nationalist can also abide by the worship of a foreign religion which teaches false ideals and turns our countrymen into slaves of the enemy. There would be no Semites in our nations if not for the treason of Semite worshipers. Trying to play around with the definition of "Jew" fools no one. Yeshua was an ignoble shitskin just like the Jews, a Semite of the tribes of Israel. His cult is foreign to Europeans in every way and inherently anti-European in its ideology.

Norse pagans are fatalists – Baldr was their Christ, but he died and he didn't come back and they had to make do. They loved the same innocence Christians do, but they had no sense of hope that it would ever come back. They knew their gods would die. Ragnarok happened.

Christianity is the genuinely bizarre belief that there was once such a thing as a genuinely good man – the bastard son of a penniless kike day laborer's child bride, whelped in a fucking barn in the most miserable province of the Empire. He was born with the kind of charisma that can lead armies, but he never did. A few centuries later the Emperor of the known world *bowed down and worshipped Him*. Mohammed actually *did* lead armies, and he only managed to hack off half the Empire. Christ built it in a cave with a box of scraps.

If you are a pure materialist, then He wasn't the messiah – He's just a guy who founded a global network of charities hospitals schools and disaster relief organizations two millenia long and a couple billion humans wide, strong enough to carry entire civilizations through thousand-year dark ages, laden with the philosophical commentaries of the finest minds in the world. This would merely make Him the greatest jew that ever lived.

And yet, despite this, all the other jews despise Him – which is odd, because just try and get them to shut up about any other vaguely impressive jew in history. That alone is enough reason to give Him the benefit of the doubt.

This is an excellent idea. I really hope that one day we'll be morally courageous enough as a people to accomplish this.

Religion is like language, it changes, splits and merges. What happen d in the ancient past doesn't say anything about what modern christians believe. The salvation people got was knowledge from other cultures about how to continue living post social collapse. Remember in the ancient world the rules were gods or defendants of gods.

Please explain why the great flood was not God undoing his mistake.

Never claimed to be a White Nationalist and just because I am not a Christian, does not mean I don't read books. That's a standard tactic of you people, insinuate that we are uneducated.

You purposefully misquote me so you can make a strawman. Either awnser my objections or don't.

That's very nice, your point? That I am rejecting our tradition by being a polytheist? Our tradition is a rejection of aristotle and his atheism mate.

Rulers were gods or decendents of gods

Wouldn't work; even if 99/100 of them take the deal the 100th guy has enough jizz to make up for all the rest. That's not about race, it's just what males are. Females are the reproductive bottleneck, you have to sterilize them instead.

Come to think of it, what group of women are being most effectively sterilized right now?

It's funny how in "the last 5 years" we have become hostile to these cucks. Hey isn't that right around the time Christcucks started importing shitskins into western nations at breakneck speed in the name of jebus?

Black woman, who are most likely to get abortions.

Pay the females to do the same, then. I would prefer it honestly.

Actually, the Bible has been validated quite well as staying remarkably true to the oldest extant manuscripts, unchanged at all after thousands of years. So that claim as regards the Bible itself, and by reference the religions based on it namely Judaism and Christianity (and to a lesser degree cults like Islam, Mormons and Jehovah's Witnesses who simply plagiarize parts of it) doesn't stand.

Impossible for the simple reason that the very word "Jew" didn't exist at that time (a wrangled short form of "Judean", which is a geographical, not an ethnic signifier). Always the same, old bullshit.

Abort all niggers.

Matthew 1:1-17
Luke 3:23-38
Both the Gospel of Matthew and the Gospel of Luke clearly state that Jesus was a jew.

No such thing as a good jew.
No such thing as a good jew.

I've seen tons of videos of these "unpozzed" christians convincing subhumans not to kill their children portrayed as if its some great thing.

Fair point, but their overall fertility rate is still much higher than white women. Even given the higher rate of abortions, they start in their teens and 20s – a black women might have had ten abortions, but she has four kids too. White women are systematically encouraged to start in their late 30s, so they get one sickly autistic child apiece.

Mate, could you point out any of those names in the forefathers mentioned in Norse and Germanic sources? Is Sceaf or Halfdan somewhere in that list of Jesus' ancestors?

Actually, there is a decline in overal black birth rates in many places in the Western world, the problem are the Muslims.

It's more that at every stage of our ascension, Christcucks tried to force their foreign ideology onto the resurgence of European nationalism. Specifically, the entire notion of Holla Forums being a Christian board. They put themselves in the spotlight, leading to an actual evaluation of the religion and thus its full exposure as a foreign, subversive element responsible for establishing the Semitic hegemony that exists today. They'd still be limping along in obscurity if they'd never tried to push deus vult on everyone.

Does that mean you supports stoning to death women who commit adultry? Do you wear mixed fabric clothes or eat pork? Yeah, that's what I thought.

Actually the idea of that term had been around for well over a thousand years at the point Jesus spoke those words user. Here's the Greek word John used was 'Ἰουδαίων'. It simply means the descendants of Jacob.

biblehub.com/interlinear/john/4-22.htm
biblehub.com/john/4-22.htm

Impossible, for the simple reason that the very word "Jew" didn't exist in the English language before roughly the 16th century. Learn a bit more about the issues surrounding biblical translations before spewing bullshit. Today's Jews have very little to do with the Old Hebrews, although they contained bad seed in the form of what of groups like Canaanite mischlings and sects like the Pharisees.

What are you referring to? Please be aware what a fallacy of origin is, i.e. something can be foreign, but true, or native, and wrong. Ancestry proves nothing.

And then they cry "D&C shill" when you say negative things about their religion despite the fact that they're the ones who start it with shitting on non-christians. Not too surprising that they start acting like jews crying out as they strike you when they follow a jewish religion.

John 4:9-10
Jesus is a "Jew". Gas yourself faggot.

Yup, here we have it, the Christian Monkeys pops out of the sleeve.

this is actually a good point, made in a civil way. what are you doing here?

Exactly. The most sickening part is how convinced they are of how right they are.

And you want to ban them from having abortions?! We'd be overrun within a generation. White women will never produce as many baby as unfettered niggers, no matter the circumstances. That's in our biology. The only way to level the playing field is to legalize killing niggers.

If you want to get white women to stop waiting until they're 30, you need to kill the university/career woman meme. Also, it's not abortion that's preventing them from giving birth, it's more mundane birth control. White women rarely have abortions because they're better at planning than niggers, they use birth control in the vast majority of cases.

Those semite subhumans were every bit as evil as the people we call jews today. One need only look into their own holy texts to recognize the unmistakable stench of their filth.

The Tribe of Abraham must be wiped from the face of the earth. Any white man who disagrees is a race traitor.

The most "rightest" thing a christian will fight for is the right for a million little niglets to christen American soul.
Will they fight to keep our nations safe? Will they fight to keep their race from going extinct? Will they fight to close the borders? Will they fight against predatory (((capitalists))) from siphoning off their resources? No, the only thing they can ever seem to get riled up over is over the rights for niggers to outbreed us. Oh yes, and the one other thing that really gets their blood boiling is not sending billions of dollars and the best of our young men to die for Isreal, the land of god's chosen.

The simple fact stands that salvation only comes through Christ's sacrifice for us user. Jesus Himself demonstrated how to deal with whores, and you can bet He never ate pork or wore mixed fabric. My own views are irrelevant to you tbh.
biblegayway.com/passage/?search=John 8:1-11&version=NLT

Incorrect. The term is a geographical signifier, meaning someone from Ioudea. MANY races lived in that geographical area, from the niggest of nigs (in the form of slaves) to Aryans, who, per the Ancient-Aryan theory, formed the elite caste of most mediterranean societies.

Learn about logic, and specifically what a fallacy of origin is. Don't embarass yourself further until you do.

Yes, unless you suck black dick, you aren't logical and superior. Origin doesn't matter, unless it's Jesus then it does, oy vey.

Judea wasn't a concept until the tribe of Judah occupied the land following the exodus from Egypt user. The term plainly refers to the people as well as the land.

In the end who cares, those people where not our ancestors, thus their religion does not matter to us.

Abortion is one of the main issues for white 'feminists'. If you destroy abortion in their minds you begin to unravel a life-time of brainwashing.

Think about how for many of us the red-pills starting coming in rapid succession after our first exposure. For many this was to the injustice of things like blacks, women and jews being given advantages over us at school/work/life, and this led to us seeking answers as we clearly no longer lived in a 'meritocracy'. Women don't care so much about justice as men do, but they sure do care about emotions - so show them that everything they've ever known about abortion is bullcrap, and that it's literally murder - and you may just see them progress down a similar path that many of us went down.

Yes, I do not particularly care about blacks having abortions. That is irrelevant. This is about waking up white women, as well as potentially saving white lives.

Knew you were full of shit

There is no such thing as a noble Semite. The Israelite tribes were subhuman scum just the same as "today's Jews" and just the same as Yeshua.

Even if you deny up and down that jesus and all of his disciples were not jews, you cannot deny that they weren't white. Not going to follow the desert religion of equality for desert rats.
Not moving the goalpost, btw. My original point was that Christianity is not white and therefore should not be followed by white nationalists.

never said that!

In a pure evolutionary sense, this is absolutely true – a subspecies that survives has to either reproduce faster than their competitors or kill faster – but the definition of 'killing' has some wiggle room. 'Preventing reproduction before death' is pretty much equivalent whether you murder, sterilize, or simply deny opportunities to reproduce until they die of old age.

One way to do this that doesn't get discussed much is to keep all the wombs full. There are a lot of frustrated white men who can't get women (yet). Why not make it a rite of passage to spread a few mulatto bastards around before they find one? Inb4 one drop rule, I'm not saying mulattoes are white but they're infinitely preferable to africans *without* a smattering of white DNA, and by the time it gets down to 1/16 or so it's pretty bearable. Every white bastard in a black girl is nine months it can't be baking a full-blood nog – that's a 50% reduction in overall spread of black genes. This 'kills' the black men.

Their religion glorifies victim culture. They love being the victim, it gives them warm fuzzy feelings. This is why Christian resistance to cultural suicide is always so pathetic and impotent. Christians don't care about winning, they don't care about saving society. They care about being the put upon underdogs who always lose during their mortal life. They prefer losing to winning, because their religion tells them the more they lose in this life, the more they'll win in the afterlife.

The perfect religion… to subvert a people.

Reported.

"When God put man in a garden
He girt him with a sword,
And sent him forth a free knight
That might betray his lord;

"He brake Him and betrayed Him,
And fast and far he fell,
Till you and I may stretch our necks
And burn our beards in hell.

"But though I lie on the floor of the world,
With the seven sins for rods,
I would rather fall with Adam
Than rise with all your gods.

"What have the strong gods given?
Where have the glad gods led?
When Guthrum sits on a hero's throne
And asks if he is dead?

"Sirs, I am but a nameless man,
A rhymester without home,
Yet since I come of the Wessex clay
And carry the cross of Rome,

"I will even answer the mighty earl
That asked of Wessex men
Why they be meek and monkish folk,
And bow to the White Lord's broken yoke;
What sign have we save blood and smoke?
Here is my answer then.

"That on you is fallen the shadow,
And not upon the Name;
That though we scatter and though we fly,
And you hang over us like the sky,
You are more tired of victory,
Than we are tired of shame.

"That though you hunt the Christian man
Like a hare on the hill-side,
The hare has still more heart to run
Than you have heart to ride.

"That though all lances split on you,
All swords be heaved in vain,
We have more lust again to lose
Than you to win again.

"Your lord sits high in the saddle,
A broken-hearted king,
But our king Alfred, lost from fame,
Fallen among foes or bonds of shame,
In I know not what mean trade or name,
Has still some song to sing;

"Our monks go robed in rain and snow,
But the heart of flame therein,
But you go clothed in feasts and flames,
When all is ice within;

"Nor shall all iron dooms make dumb
Men wondering ceaselessly,
If it be not better to fast for joy
Than feast for misery.

"Nor monkish order only
Slides down, as field to fen,
All things achieved and chosen pass,
As the White Horse fades in the grass,
No work of Christian men.

"Ere the sad gods that made your gods
Saw their sad sunrise pass,
The White Horse of the White Horse Vale,
That you have left to darken and fail,
Was cut out of the grass.

"Therefore your end is on you,
Is on you and your kings,
Not for a fire in Ely fen,
Not that your gods are nine or ten,
But because it is only Christian men
Guard even heathen things.

"For our God hath blessed creation,
Calling it good. I know
What spirit with whom you blindly band
Hath blessed destruction with his hand;
Yet by God's death the stars shall stand
And the small apples grow."

And the King, with harp on shoulder,
Stood up and ceased his song;
And the owls moaned from the mighty trees,
And the Danes laughed loud and long.

No, I answered the question explicitly concerning any actual relevance. I'll avoid pointing out that your wording then an now was obvious bait. Oh wait…

You're confusing abortion with "the pill". Banning abortion won't make white women give up their delusional man-emulating career aspirations. That's fantasy.

Liberal white women support abortion not because they have them frequently, but because it's seen as the one of the last threats to feminism in the modern day. Thanks to the kikes making this a "womyn's rights" issue. They desperately want to pick a fight, but the only justifiable cause to complain is abortion, because they already have everything else they could ever want.
It's the same for the "wage gap". They want to bitch.

Complete bullshit, they're simply more intelligent enemies.

cuck or be cucked, motherfucker

Ancestry is one thing; the truth of a proposition another. Don't confound this. The fallacy of origin pertains to the latter, i.e. for the truth of falsehood of a statement or a belief it's irrelevant where it originated.

You might be right, but be aware that this is, ironically, the Zionist position.

I'm really flabbergasted at the lack of knowledge regarding ancient ethnography. Are you not aware of the Ancient Aryan theory? That there - once! - lived many Aryan people around the Mediterranean, and that even after centuries of miscegenation the elite castes remained pure, in some cases up until today? Soeaking of "Semites" in this context (which is a linguistic category) marks you as really ignorant. I hope you are shills, because the thought of fellow Holla Forumsacks being this ignorant would hurt.

If you can't perceive what 436ff8 is doing in this thread, then you must be incredibly unintelligent. He's playing you like a fiddle.

daily reminder, that while liberitarianism seems like a good ally, they have many kike heralds in their ranks, from aynd rand, to that fucking rothbard. In the right alliance threads where we larp on the worst chan it surprised me that instead of the christian right, we got this kike ridden mess.

So instead of trying to please and argue with the liberitarians. Why not try the christians. We have far more in common with them than with the kikes. And the kikes also hate the old time, more traditional christians. Orthondox especially.

fascist/natsoc + traditional christians seem to have a better compatibility factor, to that of nearly 90% I suspect, the (10% being universalism, soulism garbage, the god thing is even a non issue)

srsly, fascism in portugal for example also intersected with christianity. You could be a fascist christian who loved traditional gender roles and killed commies. You also get the additional bonus of witch hunts (killing sjw's) instead of being freedom loving and tolerant. I think that fascism/natsoc and the more radical forms of christianity can make something like an uber fascism. Where both ideologies strengten eachother and combine into something so far, extremely, uberly far right that it goes off the scale. Jew killing, sjw killing, homo killing, women controlling etc. All the good stuff.

oh and usury. Jesus I hate that. Fucking kike invention. I may not believe in god, but I sure as heck believe in most of the christian gods doctrine.

you should learn something about subversion on pic related.

You claimed the Bible is correct and unchanging and it is your guide. I pointed out you don't follow it, so you handwave and say your views don't matter to me. And then you claim you answered the question? No, you lost the debate when you failed to acknowledge you don't do what the perfect unchanging word of god says. Now get the fuck outta here faggot.

genes either propagay or they don't. more intelligent enemies are a good thing, especially if your genes spread no matter who wins – evolution is an arms race.

Truth is not a proposition, language is just symbols used to communicate, the truth is something beyong language, it is something which is inherently true and continues existing when people stop talking.

aka race.

Enough with this cheap atheist bullshit.

I know what he is and it's ok, I like to play :^)

Filter and report that jew. Nobody on Holla Forums would advocate race mixing in good faith.

i'm advocating diluting them harder than they dilute us

Yes. And? What does that have to do with the fallacy of origin you comitted ("it's not the belief of my ancestors, therefore it's wrong")?

You're a fucking idiot. mulattos will always ally and help full niggers not whites. You are helping genocide the white race with every mulatto bastard you make. Fucking kill yourself.

Your pic reinforces what I'm saying. Christians love prophecy that says they'll become a put-upon minority. They love losing like that.

you're helping genocide the white race by preserving the 'white men only mate with white women, nonwhite men mate with everyone' rule. this is designed to wipe you out.

He's a jew.

Believe it, mordecai. Why would I want to worship the desert god of foreskins?
There were European pagan religions at the very same time the semites were concocting this rubbish. Pagan Europeans who were actually white. Europeans who had their own gods and deities. The Romans and the tribes of Germania had their own polytheistic religions. They lived and breathed the same time as yeshua. They were definitely white. I'd rather follow their religions than the religion of arabs to the south.

So if given the choice, what religion is "whiter"? Whenever I see christians try to proclaim that jesus was WHITE it's always because of their own personal interpretations of phrases in the bible, and other equally shaky circumstantial "evidence". I know for a concrete fact that European pagans were white. Not just "caucasians closely related to the greeks who happened to be living in the middle east", white.

gnon laughs. either the rule becomes 'white men mate with everyone's women, everyone else keeps to their own women' whites go extinct.

*or

this is how every good european empire post 1492 has worked btw

You forget the middle ages where it was basically a bulkwark of force and might. And when it didnt turn the other cheek to witches and heretics. Good times. Those christians are still around you know. Somewhere farther away.

And their shitskin bastards went on to betray them, bitch about colonialism, and overthrow them. Every white man that fucks a subhuman deserves a bullet.

because the greates meme-magician that ever lived transformed that shitty shitty god into the preserving force behind european civilization through the dark ages?

putting bullets in white men is how we go extinct. cf. wwi, wwii
put bullets in nonwhite women and you solve the problem

Everyone knows about "Ancient Aryan" history; no one associates the Israelites with Aryans. The entire point of referring to Semites as Semites is to point out that they are not speakers of an Indo-European language. There cannot be Aryans involved if the Israelites are not using Sanskrit. Where are the sunwheels in Israelite iconography? Where is the polytheistic truth in their religion? The religions descendant from Abraham are rejections of Aryan ideology.

The founding of a loosely unified Israelite kingdom was a direct result of the waning of Europoid influence in the region. The Israelites were nothing more than Semitic tribes turned loose from the civilizing influence of the other cultures which had been colonized by Europoids following the Younger Dryas. This can be seen in the Persian degeneration into monotheism as well.

You mean when Christcucks enacted a policy of total genocide against the bloodlines of shamans and folk healers, setting our study of Forteana back thousands of years and doing immense harm to the spiritual health of our peoples which has yet to be healed?

If that white man is going around making shitskin bastards then you're killing more shitskins than you are whites by ending his life.

Textbook example of a fallacy of origin. I might even screenshot it to reference logical errors in the future.

The fact that you reference the wishy-washy 19th century term "white" so much shows me you're a Burger, i.e. someone who lost the connection to his ancestral roots a long time ago. A European would speak of his specific volk or ethnicity. Just accept that there are and were millions of white people who adopted that religion succesfully for themselves during the last two millenia.

Pardon me, but I'm unaware of making that claim. Certainly it is the guide for salvation. If I've somehow implied that a) the Law is in effect today (it isn't), or that b) I'm a perfect icon of Christ (I'm not) then please forgive me.

As to my answering your b8, I did in fact do so, and explicitly. Jesus told the men around Him "Whichever one is without sin cast the first stone" as the adulteress, and then forgave her Himself and told her to go and sin no more. Sounds like a good approach to the issue to me. And my claim that Jesus neither ate pork nor violated the Law in even the slightest little way–even down to not wearing mixed fabric–is amply validated more or less in the entirety of the Bible first to last.

Are you thick? I am White, thus my truth is my own being, Christianity is not White, thus it's not the truth. Duh!

Yes, after getting cucked by muslims for hundreds of years. The reason why modern Spaniards and Italians are so swarthy, because of Christian passivity. Then instead of purging the arabs from your continent and being through with it, you went out and killed yourselves to "reclaim" holy land that is today infested with kikes and sandniggers, and has been for 600 years.

At least yahweh was tribalistic before yeshua came into the picture. Now you get to worship the god of the kikes but with 100% more egalitarianism and 0% backbone.

Don't you just love how Christians see murdering a bunch of whites that followed traditions passed down for centuries as an unquestioned good?

There is no such thing, obviously my brain is different from that of a negro, so my religions instincts are also different.

Fuck off. You know what "white" is. "white" is being a native European, or having your bloodline come from Europe. Semites in the middle east are not "white". Yes, they are Caucasoids, and have fairer skin than negroes, but they are not white, and you know it.
Stop trying to deconstruct white identity like a libshit. You're literally deploying kike rhetoric to defend your kike religion.

not how genes work. the program is gradual extinction by outbreeding and dilution. if you turned it on the people who are *already practicing it successfully on you* you would do better.

to be clear, i'm saying the *rejected autistic dregs* of the white gene pool should *tie up the resources* of nonwhite gene pools. it's like biological factory sabotage. oughtright culling works just as well, and they aren't mutually exclusive.

admittedly, fucking a nigger is a tough pill to swallow if you're not a desperate virgin autist. i'd totally cuck a jew though, that would be hilarious.

It can't mean that because the tribe of Dan weren't Ἰουδαίων

Reminder that in songs of solomon 1:5 it is said of a israealite "I am black". Making it extremely likely Jesus was darker skinned.

There is no fallacy in his reasoning. Europeans are a superior race and therefore their religions are objectively superior to the religions of lesser races. This can be confirmed through careful study of the esoteric, which shows at every turn how simplistic and utterly false the Semitic religions are in comparison to the highly developed religions descendant from the pre-Younger Dryas proto-European civilization. Such study also reveals how those Semitic religions are in fact degenerated versions of Europoid traditions stolen at various points of contact.

They will resume the practice at the drop of a hat, and will admit as much. They do not care about creating a European future, only a Christian future. Of course, a Christian future is eternal servitude to Semites with the total replacement of European culture.

You're advocating making niggers more competent enemies I can't believe the mods haven't banned you yet kike.

checked n deus vult

not a bad point. still think it's likely better than the alternative of a circum-mediterranian caliphate. charlemagne and el cid and vlad tepes had backbones.

Whites don't need to worship the semite religion egalitarianism to be mentally and physically strong enough to defeat the swarthy followers of the semite religion of goatfucking.

lol
competent enemies are what makes evolution *work*
if you don't have competent enemies, you decay
if you only fight the weak, you never get strong

Let's fight ourselves then….

Your argument is horrible considering that we're already on the brink of extinction.

you think the pagans that couldn't fight off ragged bands of post-apocalyptic roman christians could have fought off an united caliphate?

funny how we're on the brink of extinction after spending a few centuries fighting spears with guns. almost like we got soft and complacent because nothing was challenging us.

dark ages challenge us. we need another.

You're not sliding this Shlomo, bump

Our ancestors where seduced to become Christians, they associated it with Rome and Greek learning, I doubt that would have happened with Islam.

You can argue that Christianity was mostly beneficial during the Middle Ages, and you'd probably be right. It's quite a stretch to say it's still beneficial at present, though.

The other is kikes like you.

oh , well in that case they'd fit right in with Holla Forums

It has a long history of non egalitarianism though. And orthodox christianity even has a separation of races as its core fundament.

There is more lore to play with than with the liberitarians and with good and dank memeing they were mostly already persuaded to kill gommies. Well these fucks have a history of killing sjw, homos and other defects and they dont care about freedom. They also hate the kike and hate its usury ways. At the start already they have much more in common with us that the libertarians who would love to have open borders and allow the shitskins to exist while being able to sell cocaine to minors.

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They didn't. The Spanish were excused from the Crusade to Jerusalem because they were already in a Crusade to reclaim Iberia from the Moors. It's called the Moorish Crusade or the Reconquista, and they had assistance at various times from the English, French and Italians.

Their swarthiness is partially due to conquest, yes. You cannot blame that on Christianity though. If there was no Christianity it is highly likely that they would be even darker today and would speak Arabic - it was due to Christian assistance that they were saved. If we look to the East where there was no Christianity to come to the aid of the various people; we find that they have been conquered entirely and speak arabic.

I made a thread about a week ago concerning the fact that 'white' is not enough (unsurprisingly it was anchored or deleted because mods cannot read past the headline). Afghanistan is white. Iraq is white. There are large portions of Saudi Arabia and Egypt that are white. There are whites in Morocco, there are whites in Syria, Palestine, Israel and even India. 'Whites', 'Caucasians', they are and have been 'our' enemy for a long time.

There were browns amid the Arabs, there were black slaves, and there were Mongols among the Turks. But an awful lot of them were whites. Whites were killing 'us', and we defended ourselves. I argued in that thread that we need to be more discriminating than 'whites', because being white is not enough. We are Christian descended whites, otherwise we must include Afghans and Arabs, and even Jews. I argued against using 'Rome-descended' because it would exclude heroes of Western civillisation like many slavs and other tribes that moved westward, embraced Christianity and defended Western civilisation. Yes we must only be for whites, but we are not for all whites - we are for Christian descended whites; Israelies, Iraqis, Indians, Saudi Arabians and Moroccans can all go to hell.

I of course think that forcing conversion at the point of a sword is wrong, though we should add that it was also fairly rare. My point is simply that being 'white' is not enough to make someone our ally. We want White Christian Europe and its descendants to survive.

Disagree. If one accepts the premise that Mediterranean literate elites were of more or less Aryan ancestry, than the creators of said religion (at least their founding elites) could ipso facto be hypothesized to be parially Aryans as well.

Correct, i.e. it's a linguistic, not a racial category. Well, I concede that in practice and especially nowadays it is both, but when speaking of those ancient origins we should definitely separate those two.

This is getting really embarassing. Inform yourself about basic logic and logical fallacies and don't reply further until you do. This is really basic stuff.

Those Christians were whites - Germanics who, in the overwhelming majority of cases, converted by their own free will.

Kek. Same as to the poster above; stop embarassing yourself and educate yourself about basic logic. There are good videos on Jewtube if you're not a very literate person; learn at least the top-20 most common logical fallacies.

Agree.

You're right - regarding today, after centuries of conquest by Arabs and Mongols. But 2000 years ago? THAT is the question here, regarding the racial makeup of the founders of Christianity.

No, that those not logically follow. Don't get me wrong, it might be TRUE, but it does not automatically follow. Many very intelligent people believe very stupid things.

I'm into the esoteric myself and well-prepared (I think) for a debate, if you are up to it. What specific concepts are you referring to, for example?

Cautiously agree. The miscgenation (which I don't doubt at all) definitely did them in.

Christianity, like Islam, mostly spread by conversion, not by the sword.

Well seeing is how the Roman pagans fought off the Arabs and showed the kikes their first holocaust I think yes.
The problem with christianity is that christians who usurped power from the pagans were our racial brothers. They did not wage an outright war against the Europeans as a distinctive racial group, but subverted, and only killed when they had to (kinda like kikes… what a coincidence). It's a damn sad shame, too. We could have kept a lot of good European men alive and kept many great empires alive if the weaker members of our race weren't to enchanted with the thought of equality and subservience under one god.

Back when 99.9% of Christians didn't own bibles, didn't speak a language bibles were published in, and couldn't read their own language anyway.

In those eras, Christians only believed whatever their political caste of priests told them to believe. This was a good system as long as they had good governments that acted in their best interest. The priests would tell the people whatever the people needed to hear, for the good of their nation. It was this political leadership that deserves credit for their successes, not the religious text the people never read.

As soon as bibles started getting mass produced and literacy became commonplace, Christianity went to shit.

Speak for yourself, none of my family has been Christian for as long as I can trace my geneology. See this is the exact shit I mean, you want to kill me and yet Christians fucking claim that its the non-Christians who are the shills.

gas the kikes and cuck the kikes are not mutually exclusive

cf. wwi, wwii

so how did we get to the brink of extinction? why are we losing to a borderline retarded apes? could it be because darwinism still applies no matter how much you wish it didn't?

gnon laughs. go masturbate into a sock dreaming of pure aryan women while you argue white men should restrict their outbreeding while no other race has to.

KIKE DETECTED
Why does your people hate Jesucristo nuestro Salvador so much?

Hi Imkampfy. Turkroaches burn first. You will never be welcome.

No, claiming I am illogical and not following your made-up logic rules, does not constitute and argument.

He look, another non-argument, why don't you try to awnser me, no wait, you can't, because your peddeling bullshit.

good points all. it's hard to separate christianity from romanitas towards the end, though; for a while there they reinforced well.

Nice argument there.

So you are saying that literacy is the cause of the decline lol? Well perhaps. But can one still salvage some of the old timey ways of being through other means? Not sure which…

For an illiterate like you a Wiki link is more than sufficient:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_fallacy

Educate yourself, and don't come back until you thoroughly grasped the concept.

Don't you see, deep down your European soul is rejecting semitic propaganda. It's time to cut the cord, brother.

Actually, Mexico's birthrates are similar than ours.

If I was him I would have already banned that kike promoting making nigger bastards.

It's a nice idea, too bad it doesn't work that way in practice.

Well apparently he's a white who has no Christian ancestry. Believe it or not paganism has been dead for centuries to millenia. Maybe he's a jew, maybe he's a muslim, maybe he's even a hindu. Regardless of what he is - he is not one of us, and that was exactly the point I was making. There are whites who are our enemies and have been our enemies for millenia.

We are Christian descended whites. Arabs, Jews, Turks, Iraqis and the rest can burn.

nice quads.

Jeshua is a kike meme, Jesus is HISTORICALLY the true name.

Paganism never died out entirely though I'm sure you wished it did with how much you hate everyone that doesn't follow your desert religion. You put your religion above your people.

I'm saying that the bible is the root of the problems with Christianity. When Christians don't read it, they tend to be better. The more they read it, the worse they get. On the extreme end of the scale, you have American evangelicals who read from the bible every day; then vote however Israel tells them to, send their young white daughters on mission trips to Africa, give all their money to charities for shitskins in 3rd world nations, and try to import Somalians into their community to become new members of their church.

The more devout and bible-loving a Christian, the worse they are. The best Christians are those who only go to church on Christmas and Easter. Opinion polling consistently shows those christians are the least zionist of the bunch. Christians who attend church one or more times a week are the most zionist.

There is no evidence for such a conclusion and plenty of evidence against it, such as the fact that they use a SEMITIC language rather than an Indo-European language. It is this distinction which underlies the increasing acceptance of Semite as a racial category describing the native tribes of the Middle East.

There's no need for a debate on the esoteric, I can end the discussion at once. Reincarnation. One of the fundamental aspects of Aryan beliefs and a phenomenon which has been objectively studied in the modern era is not found in the Semitic religions.

Despite the best efforts of race traitors, the native religions of Europe continue to live and serve the folk. These religions cannot be extinguished for as long as Europeans live.

checked.

here's my whole argument

SCENARIO 1
white reject autist can't get white woman, never reproduces, dies alone. shaneequa and jamal have three kids.

SCENARIO 2
white reject autist can't get a white woman, practices game on some ghetto chicks. shaneequa has a 50% less niggery baby and jamal is a cuck who dies without reproducing.

which one of these scenarios is preferable?

Quads confirm mods need to get their act together.

The essence of christcuckery. I don't even know why they come here. They should just go to their nearest based black church and worship the king of the jews with their TRUE volk there.

He look, more non-arguments, by demanding people educate themselves about your made-up logical fallasies.

He dude, didn't work when atheists did it a few years ago, isn't working right now and it won't convert people to Christianity, but then again the whole point is for you to feel smug about yourself and not to debate, educate, teach or talk to anyone, have a nice day.

Autist.

The 1st.

Wouldnt it be possible to make a new interpretation of all of this? I mean, you got plenty of lore to work with. Its not like all of it is poison to the brain. In the european time I believe that many white european saints were written about in the chronicles. Take a little bit from the far history, take a bit from the european white history (also the stoic, pagan heroes that were re-interpreted by the Christians) and BAM. You got some new age, witch hunters ready for murder?

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Christianity is the perfect religion. You are but a child that cannot see that.

Obviously scenario 2

The bible has enough cultural poison in it to more than offset whatever good you can find in it.
If you get Christians to give up their bible and look to better sources of religious guidance, then you can probably make some progress.

Explains the Nordic countries

Here's my good-faith contribution to this thread.

Instead of propaganda that merely opposes abortion, you should be creating propaganda that encourages white women to lead traditional lifestyles. If you focus just on anti-abortion specifically rather than traditional lifestyles for white women in general, you're not going to make much meaningful progress in any regard.

Do you know how most smaller church communities work? How many movements and different sects work? They all intepret the crap in their own way. They got a couple of heralds who read all of the crap, ignore what they dont find to be good. Interpret what they find to be relevant.

Then you have the whole orthondoxy wing of it which has fucking RACIAL DIVISION BUILD INTO IT. Because they think that the tower of babel means that god wanted us to be divided.

Then you have the european history and new canon added to it.

Like I said, there is plenty of non poison to be found. More than enough to probably make people go witch hunter, and even dues vult again.

Most of them are just shills regurgitating the same arguments over and over in a strategy of wasting the effort of others having to guard against the establishment of a false consensus. Once you turn something into a Christcuck dominated organization, it serves Israel. That is the general reason for the endless push to make Holla Forums a Christian board.

For the few actual Europoid Christcucks that dare to try to defend their treason, you can think of it as an expression of cognitive dissonance. They have to defend their treason or else accept responsibility for it. They possess the instincts to recognize the truth, but they must reject it to protect their egos. Of course, none of that applies to the subhuman Christcucks who will advocate for the religion as a form of survival strategy.

You just outed yourself as a Protestant or a fedora with Christian parents. I side with the latter for the irony; an loser who posts on 8/pol/ about his hatred for Christians while having a functional Christian family that gives him food and a roof over his head.

Odinfag, don't you have a tiki torch to buy?

I don't even want to know how you came to that conclusion. No it isn't I could make up a better religion in 20 minutes, if we're being honest.
Christians worship the god of the jews, our mortal enemies. That god was known to promote things like stealing foreskins, giving foreskins away as gifts, sacrificing your children, sacrificing animals, subverting your enemy, being two-faced to subvert the goyim, blood sacrifice, fucking children, fucking VERY YOUNG children, and probably much more I can't think of at the moment.
And then if you ignore all that, you get another jew who comes in and reforms it. Instead of keeping all the good things from the first testament (being nationalistic, protecting the interest of your volk/tribe), he promotes proto-communism, non-violence, "love thy enemy", egalitarianism, universalism, abuse of charity, martyrism, putting suffering on a pedestal, pride in the act of losing, mingling with whores and degenerates, knowing you're about to get fucked over by your enemy and doing nothing, and everything else miserable and pathetic.

Christianity is such a fucked up, unworkable, pile of shit religion. It's no surprised it was created by the most neurotic, mentally disturbed race of people on the planet.

Get out

Go back to the middle east and be with your people, user. You're not welcome in places that pride blood and soil over mystic kike gods and his worshipers.

congrats, you have just constructed a ratchet that makes you extinct. compare to islam – conquer a territory, christians get one wife and pay tax, mudslimes get four and don't. within a few generations christians are a despised minority in their own country, cf. entire southern mediterranean and anatolia.

80 iq niggers are preferable. intelligent enemies are preferable.

however, even if you don't believe that, look up how chromosomes work. you are artificially placing limits on white mens' genes spreading and thereby allowing nonwhite genes to swamp them. white men can only have white women but nonwhite men can have any women – this is fundamentally stupid, it's the equivalent of china for chinese africa for africans europe for eeeeveryoooonee.

even if you don't buy THAT, tying up your enemy's women is a time-honored and effective strategy. imagine you're a white man with a known genetic defect that makes all your kids ancephalic, zero chance of survival. then you go impregnate as many black women as you can. what happens? you don't reproduce any more – no 80 iq niggers – but they reproduce less. biological factory sabotage.

the point isn't even spreading white genes through nonwhite populations until they become demiwhite (although fwiw that shit does work with anyone but niggers, if you keep at it for a few centuries). the point is to tie up resources that would otherwise be used by your enemies. the exact same way they've been tying up yours. right now we're like an army that refuses to spy because it's unsporting.

kill the men, rape the women: it worked for alexander the great, it worked for the romans. it works. it doesn't matter if you get butthurt about it, it STILL WORKS.

Hard to say. The founding Israelites were educated in Egypt, which at that time was still more or less Aryan, at least among the elites. We should, therefore, at least differentiate between the Israelite elites and the larger populous, which might indeed have already been mongrelized at that point.

How arrogant. This alone tells me you would not fare well in an actual debate.

Source that claim.

Come on. There are many different views on and forays into the topic of reincarnation (and the Bible contain references to it as well), but under the currently still dominant epistemological doctrine - which I reject -, empiricism/positivism, nothing of it can be officially said to be "objective".

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I don't care about you personally, but you really need to learn the basics of logic. Around here it's only an anonymous imageboard, but outside, in the real world, a commited enemy would rip you a new one when you commit fallacies like this. Take it as a training advise; it's very important that Holla Forumsacks be able to debate well and are acquainted with logic/dialectics.

Well, they DO have very large I2 admixture, i.e. they are technically/chromosomatically speaking not especially Aryan (R1a/b).

Trips checked.

We know that Jews undermine our countries by attacking the the concepts of religion, nationality and the family unit. There is clear evidence of Jewish attacks on the family unit through feminism, on natioanlism through immigration, demonisation of history, etc. There is clear evidence of the attacks on Christianity through constant attacks in the media, even the freaking simpsons - as well as misrepresentations in education (most people still do not know about Gallileo, the Spanish Inquisition, the Crusades or the term 'Dark Ages'). We know that nations that went full bolshevik outlawed Christianity.

If you are attacking Christianity, you are aiding the Jews. If you are discouraging people to oppose abortion, then you are supporting feminism, and thus you aiding the Jew.

Open your eyes nigger.

Better than your religion which consist of buying tiki torches from immigrants at your local dollar

THIS is what a shill looks like. D&C.

sorry to interject, but I always liked this one
"And when the LORD thy God shall deliver them before thee; thou shalt smite them, and utterly destroy them; thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor shew mercy unto them:

Neither shalt thou make marriages with them; thy daughter thou shalt not give unto his son, nor his daughter shalt thou take unto thy son."

good point, anti abortion and traditional life styles go hand in hand, alot of women can be convinced that taking her childs life is wrong while many can be convinced that a traditional life style is best, if you can convince them of one the other will follow

checked, but my friend the tribe of judah and the tribe of Judea are different, judah is the tribe of the jews, Judea is the tribe of the Caucasians from the Caucus mountains

I grew up in such a community. Today most of their sermons are about giving more gibs to Africa, because those Africans are going to be great Christians and thus help reverse declining Church attendance numbers. The pastor points out to all the boomers that attendance numbers are down because the children and grandchildren of boomers aren't showing up, and tells the boomers that importing Africans is the solution. The boomers eat this up, they love the idea. Nothing pleases them more than baptizing a niglet.

The problem is you have plebians doing this reading and interpreting, not well educated and well intentioned political elite. Of course such a benevolent political class is extinct these days, murdered in past centuries by the jews and their agents. But the fact remains that the people doing the interpreting now know little about the world. They don't even believe race exists, they invite invaders from Africa into their own homes.

Maybe this is still working in Eastern Europe. But in America, Christianity isn't working. It's doing more harm than good.

Christianity was good. Perhaps by trying to fix it one can regain a vast majority of sanity in society. A few more people to the right side. There are still archetypes of people among our population who need that kind of crap to function, mentally that is. If one were to give it right leanings, and somehow successfully annihilate the universalism and soulism from its lore. Then you could effectively let there be some sanity again. Many, most of its core tenets are part of ours. It may be a next low hanging fruit on our march to remove jew and to 1488.

No one cares about the illegal spics in Texas

And there it is. It finally comes out. Every single goddam time I end up arguing with a christcuck it comes to this.
You pride your religion over your own race. You spit in the face of people who actually want to preserve our people if they do not unscrupulously worship your god.
Who even said that the whites marching in Charlottesville were pagan? Who said they weren't Christian? No one did, but your mind immediately went to attacking whites when confronted with an affront to your semitic god.
This is why I don't trust you christians. Every single goddam time it comes down to the wire you will always chose your "faith" over your own people, your own survival. Yet you come on here to tell us that your religion is the religion of whites? It's so obviously you don't give a single shit about whites and you're just looking to quell any wrong-thinkers who aren't fond of your practices and beliefs.
Christians will never be loyal to their race. Christians are first and foremost loyal to their religion, and that religion is 'foriegn. Christians are foreign nationals
Do not trust them.

Well its a difficult beast to tackle, not sure how memetic warfare could fit into all of this, if at all. It could be a huge undertaking, one of which we may not have the manpower for. Maybe with more time. Maybe one could lure a few of the pastors who are still somewhat white and sane, also radical into our fold, and not bully them. I dont think that we have to compromise at all. In its best form they will kill for us, even more than we like to probably lol.

Yea the problem with all movements is that they compromise and water down, and it turns to shit. But we dont have this problem, or do we? How many libertarian memes were there made? SOME user DID THAT. SOME user BASICALLY RADICALIZED THEIR WHOLE USER GROUP. Maybe more.

Again, not sure if the christianity beast can get the same kind of approach with memetic warfare.

mormonism is a decent attempt at that, though i think ultimately a failed one. i think if you had to pick a branch to rehabilitate it'd need to be orthodoxy, but without an ecumenical patriarchate that rivals the papacy it seems like they'll never unite against islam.

also that c

It's easy to say. There is no evidence that the Israelites, elites or not, were Aryan. Nothing in their culture or the archaeological record suggests they were ruled by Aryans. The lack of Aryan qualities in their culture, especially the lack of an Indo-European language, makes it clear that they could not have been ruled by Aryans. You are peddling fictions.

Cucktianity IS an attack on our concepts of religion, nationality, and the family unit. It is a subversive, degenerate religion created by sandniggers. There would not be a Semite hegemony over our nations if not for Cucktianity infiltrating and destabilizing them. The crusades did not stop Islam, the Mongols did. Islam would not exist if not for Cucktianity in the first place. Yeshua is a prophet of Islam.

If you are advocating for Cucktianity, you are a race traitor advocating for the death of your people.

:^)

10/10

Protestantism is the dominant variant of Religion in America. Christianity's political and social impact on America is what I concern myself with. White Evangelical Protestants in particular are by far the most Zionist demographic in America, save for jews themselves.

The least zionist christian demographic? Niggers, ironically enough. But that's only because they think jews are white and they wuz da real jews.

Didnt you see that radical preacher, whats his name, oh yea!

youtube.com/watch?v=Hm8AnNiwH58

This guy. he fucking hates homos lol. I think he may be a bit of an outlier, but there are still tens, if not hundreds, maybe even thousands like him out there. Part of small communities. Maybe some larger. Not all of them are nigger loving cucks.

I think that there may exist some potential to help to re-radicalize them, to their more ancient and fascist european roots. If our numbers swell a bit more, we could branch out to those and try to do a memetic warfare thing. Not sure how many of there are us now who are capable of that though. I suspect millions, many millions more are in the stages of deprogramming of the jew lore.

Tell me how European pagans reached the tiki islands and created the tiki torch to thank Odin

See, here is how you can tell that most of the time you are dealing with a shill rather than an actual Christcuck.

Very cute, I think in the real world, people would literally ripe you a new one.

Rather than fix christiananity, we must liquidate it's current power structure, removing all the zionists. Let's be honest, nobody reads the bible, and if we had /ourguys/ in positions of power to interpret the bible we could use christianity for good.

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lol well maybe, good luck with that, you would have to do it, or with the help of the slavs and their orthodoxy. Well I dont know, I am just brain storming to maybe to think of how to get more odds against the kikes.

Why does your mind even go to spics?
You're anti-white because when confronted about the problems with christianity your mind automatically goes to attacking whites, especially racially aware whites. This is why you hate paganism, because it's white. Why do you even come here? Why do you lie to our faces and say that your religion should be the religion of whites? Why should anyone believe you give a single shit about our people when you treat us and our problems so callously? Why should whites worship the religion of foreigners who hate them? Christians hate whites and hate that whites have a culture and a history that is outside of what they deem as the true culture. You hate that we have a belief in something greater than ourselves that isn't your god.
I hope more people wake up to your bullshit. You don't care about us as a people, as a race, you only care about us because we are potential converts, or potential heretics. That is why you come here, to defend your religion, not us.

Not an argument, instead of being a faggot, why don't you ask your successful Christian parents how to be a productive member of society?

They're worried you spent your manchild allowance to buy tiki torches

I was the one making fun of the tiki torches. Or rather, lamenting they made themselves look so lame by larping with tiki torches. It made them look like a bunch of domesticated fruits.

That criticism had nothing to do with religion whatsoever.

We don't need more intelligent enemies you kike, we already have your race as enemies.

I think I understand what you are saying, now you want a tiki bar

Where do you think intelligence comes from, exactly?

“All health, beauty, intelligence, and social grace has been teased from a vast butcher’s yard of unbounded carnage, requiring incalculable eons of massacre to draw forth even the subtlest of advantages. This is not only a matter of the bloody grinding mills of selection, either, but also of the innumerable mutational abominations thrown up by the madness of chance, as it pursues its directionless path to some negligible preservable trait, and then — still further — of the unavowable horrors that ‘fitness’ (or sheer survival) itself predominantly entails. We are a minuscule sample of agonized matter, comprising genetic survival monsters, fished from a cosmic ocean of vile mutants, by a pitiless killing machine of infinite appetite. (This is still, perhaps, to put an irresponsibly positive spin on the story, but it should suffice for our purposes here.)”

I have never seen a Christian here awnser those objections truthfully. Because the truth of it is that either race matters and we should become heathens, or it doesn't and we should become christians or whatever other universalist cult exists.

The moment you reject race and stop being grounded within race, then almost anything becomes possible. Christianity is the beginning of nihilism, by grounding their worldview in a big book and a god outside of this universe, they open the door to nihilism.

Only heathens has the true solution, by becoming a heathen you have the potential to abandon monotheism, universalism, nihilism, dogma, the subjective nature of scripture and return back to a community of people that share common values.

No. You're obviously a butthurt shill and can't keep your hatred of whites contained any longer. Maybe you should cool down some, I mean, turn the other cheek, and think of some new tactics to trick us natsocs into adopting your foreign religion.

and to add to my post: Why not try to somehow play with those radical pastors. Maybe even provide them with some support and limelight. They could deserve it. Could help grow something that is good.

THERE'S NO FUCKING NEED FOR ADDITIONAL SELECTIVE PRESSURES WHEN WE ALREADY HAVE MORE THAN ENOUGH AND ARE ALREADY ON THE VERGE OF EXTINCTION YOU DISINGENUOUS KIKE

while christianity is inherently universalist in some sense, it's painstakingly built to preserve the maximum amount of particularity without fading away. compare to two other universalizing faiths: islam is more universal and grinds away local differences, buddhism is so tolerant of local differences it evaporates. christianity is straddling the razor's edge.

what this means is, christianity is a framework that lets ethnic separatists get along.

imagine a world with 3 countries: a white nationalist country, a black nationalist country, and a chinese nationalist country (i.e. china). if all three are pagan, they have their own cultures but get cosmopolitan mixing because pantheons can be equated and get along. if all three are muslim, their own cultures are erased entirely (or only half-erased, if they're badass persians).

if all three are christian, they mostly stay within their borders and run their own cultures, but their relations are peacable because they have a solid framework. chinese christianity in china, black christianity in blackistan, white christianity in europe. all three mind their own business until there's an external threat. that's the ideal.

Reported for intl.
Reminder that everything intl says is disproven using only these links.
General: pastebin.com/tzcKvSa0
Not Jewish: pastebin.com/2rE83qNV
Judeo-Christianity: pastebin.com/sYYMff3e
Fundamental Question: pastebin.com/VMBdJ9Rf
Zionism: pastebin.com/CQ9YVb2U

why are we on the verge of extinction again? could it have something to do with people like you trying to restrict white male fertility and refusing to restrict nonwhite male fertility?

You morons do realise that abortions are eugenic, right? Dumb people with poor self control are more likely to have abortions (because they're too dumb to use contraceptives and avoid unwanted pregnancies). This is true within race for all races. Blacks have more abortions than all other races.

Want a white USA? Support abortions.

Kikes like you promoting miscegenation and importing shitskins to displace whites.

How convenient. I posted it, by the way. And I generally do so in every intl thread on this subject. Lurk more.

No it's not and I see no reason to even accept this a true. WTF?

Maybe quote from history, instaid of inventing your own little fantasy world.

No, different ID. Nice try.

google apostolic palace u prole

No what's not.
Too fucking bad; it's true regardless of what your feelings say.
Done already. You have no fucking comprehension of the topic at hand and are lying through your teeth about race.

You were blown the fuck out. Nothing you said is correct. Fuck off, shill.

Right, now I have to look up things again, instaid of getting some kind of counter argument.

I see, still no arguments, now instaid of playing smug, someone is being purposefully being insulting.

Holy shit, try harder.

Fuck off, shill.

Waiting for an argument.

Has anyone ever checked those links this shill keeps posting? I always have to wonder if it's the same lies that Christcucks keep peddling, but knowing that is the most likely outcome makes me lose all interest in going to the effort to look.

Reported, then.

Reported for obvious intl raid.

It's just pages and pages of incoherent rambling. That "reported for intl" guy has serious mental problems.

Hidden, bye.

pic related

gas the kikes and cuck the kikes are not mutually exclusive strategies. i favor both.

you are still castrating our race for the sake of ideology. why should white men restrict themselves to white women when niggers don't restrict themselves to negresses?

kill the enemy and take his women is the only strategy there is. you're going against billions of years of evolutionary incentive and handicapping white men.

This is literally the best shilling that money can buy.

Poetry.

Reported for support miscegenation.

You know an even better framework that lets ethnic separatists get along? It's called a border. Also learn to use your shift key before you vomit posts onto the board.

YOU are supporting miscegenation. You are saying "be good and keep your seed to yourself, white boy" while nonwhites run rampant. I'm telling you how to drive nonwhites extinct, but you're too damn dense.

oh no capitalization criticism whatever shall i do
and how well does islam respect borders?

Reported. What the fuck mental disease do you have?

you're right. black women for black men, white women for everyone. congrats.

more abortion pics
less arguing about religion

What does Islam have to do with your piss-poor argumentation? Do you see me holding it up as some sort of standard?

Reported.

Just report all intl posters.

nope, just making a contrast.

If you are reading that from his posts then you seriously need to just kill yourself, brain damage that bad has no fix.

user, that user is a jew. Who else would be arguing in favor of race mixing on Holla Forums? You're wasting your time responding to him, just report and filter.

Do you seriously believe no one catches on to these tactics? You need to simulate the illusion of popularity and approval.

That cap gets paraded around like a refutation but it's anything but; in actuality, it's an unwitting admission of (((early christian))) subversion. The Turn The Other Cheek mentality was always about subversion, and through the ages turned into being a pushover. Even in your own words, it's about, "fighting back intelligently."In that cap the christcuck admits that (((early christians))) were interested at getting back at roman soldiers through other means without explaining why they wanted to in the first place - always leaving out information, never giving the full context. The reason why is that (((early christians))) because they were still ethnically jewish and as such they were only interested in attacking the white country and soon after infiltrated roman politics and that subsequently lead to the fall of rome.

Explain this, why is the new testament filled with so many condemnations of rome the same way the old testament was filled with so many condemnations of babylon?

The jews at the very top don't hate christianity but the orthodox ones at the bottom do. The same reason why the roman catholic church can elect an ethnically jewish pope who bypassed all prerequisites is just a recent example. The jews hated christianity from the beginning however because it was a competing jewish sect that succeeded. Judaism from the talmud/pharisees stayed on the backburner while the jewish cult based around worshiping yeshua won popularity once they perfected their subversion tactics and eroded rome from the inside.

Don't go assuming that the thing the jew hates doesn't use for their own benefit themselves if you don't know the whole story.

You dump those links every christcuck thread and they have no effect.

I should have known it was that guy. He spouts the same insanity every christcuck shilling thread.

This was a religious thread from the start. /christian/ makes threads like these to re-insert themselves into Holla Forums. Browse /christian/ for a minute and see how many threads are about hating on Holla Forums. They have more threads kvetching about Holla Forums than Holla Forums does these days.

Reported.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA

one subspecies reproduces only with itself, the other reproduces indiscriminately. which one survives?

really, no amount of bawwing is going to change the underlying reality. either you spread your genes better or you go extinct. you are specifically advocating restricting white fertility without restricting black fertility.

but by all means, go cry to the janitors.

breeding demiwhites at the expense of nonwhites is a worthwhile strategy. slavs and spics and quadroons aren't great, but niggers are worse.

if you want to see what i'm talking about, compare a slave-rape american nigger to one from africa proper.

This thread is comedy gold.

oxymoron

1. The one that only reproduces with itself, since the other one dilutes its blood out of existence. Reported for supporting miscegenation.
2. Species, not subspecies.

Quit acting like a fucking Kike shrilly shrieking about. There is one God even if you don't believe in Christianity or Jesus this has been figured out by people many times over Socrates, Thomas Aquinas, some Ancient Egyptians, the Atlanteans. Even if your pagan gods were the gods there is still a single being above them who created everything they inhabit.

The entire idea of turn the other cheek is always your first fucking point of contention. First you need to read the verse before it because turn the other cheek is referring to the practice eye for an eye. Jesus was saying personal grudges are usually not worth it and leave everyone blind by the end of it aka how the Jews operate.

All Christians are a nation of priests and soldiers of God it is our job to defend the faith.

I also always see the fact Jesus said we are al equal before God. They always forget the context of his teachings though. Jesus at the time was telling the JEWS they are not chosen people simply for being born. Just like a White man is not because he can become a Communist or Good Goy. It takes a strong moral base and being a righteous person who does the right thing and knows the snares the devil throws before us.

Also a majority of your problems come from modernist Christianity not traditionalist Christianity. The Pope at the time of Nazi Germany sided with Hitler because he believed Communism was Satanic. Which as Holla Forums has found out time and time again is absolutely true. Look at the treatment of Eastern Orthodox Christians during the USSR.

As a final stinger Pagans would have lost Europa to Islam and the Kikes long before the current situation with the Atheist Communist EU persecuting Christians at every pass while allowing Muslims, Niggers and Jews free reign.

Reported for obviously being a paid shill.

Nice job, intl.

species are reproductively incompatible, subspecies are reproductively isolated.

right now, nonwhites are diluting YOUR blood out of existence. god forbid you should turn the tables.

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Both Dan and Judah were in the loins of Jacob aka Israel, but fair enough user.

Falsehood. Try harder.
Yeah, and?
By… not miscegenating. Thanks.

Yeah but Hitler was also saying things Catholics could not reconcile with and also committed heresy by trying to make "Nazi Catholicism". .

Well this thread has gone to hell. Well done Holla Forums, you successfully aided the Jews by protecting Feminism from some powerful anti-abortion images, and you continued to aid them with their millenia-long effort to destroy Christianity in the West.

Has the next exodus already happened and I was just too out of the loop to realise?

Reported.

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are you retarded? which of these do you prefer:

-nonwhite men kill white men and miscegenate with white women until there are no whites left

-white men kill nonwhite men and keep their women as harem slaves until there are no nonwhites left

those are your choices

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I remember in a past christcuck thread a christcuck cited Positive Christianity as a positive example of the NatSoc party's approval of Christianity but he didn't look into it enough to realize that Positive Christianity was a NatSoc psyop to control the christcucks in Germany so they wouldn't be a problem Germany had to deal with.

Look up Positive Christianity. It's a redpilling side-story that even the NatSocs recognized how much trouble christians are that they had to control them from behind the scenes. The effects of Positive Christianity can still be felt to this day because the main tenet of Positive Christianity was that it instructed followers that Yeshua was an aryan hero fighting jews. Sound familiar? It's what /christian/ and wayward christcucks on Holla Forums repeat to this day not because it's true but because they need it to be true when it was a literally made up revision of Christianity to get christcucks on board with following the NatSoc party.

You're not fooling anyone. This thread was just one in a series of many that's designed to make Holla Forums fall for christian subversion.

You're going to have to try MUCH harder than that.

Reported.

Reported.

That's damning of Catholicism, because Hitler was right about it all.

yeah, false dichotomy. surely not the fundamental nature of all life. hey, maybe if you only reproduce with one another you'll stay alive as a tiny bitter community somehow!

you know, like the kikes.

that's what you're advocating. you want white people to dwindle to an inbred bunch of imitation kikes.

Haven't used this image in a while.

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There has never been an anti-abortion Holla Forums consensus. Every time this issue is brought up, the point is made that abortion checks nigger population growth. Every time.

Don't act so shocked and offended that you didn't get your way this time either.

It's not defeatism. Look at this. You've just got everyone arguing about Christianity and nothing being done about feminism, with the abortion agenda entirely ignored. The same arguments are being thrown out on both sides, and then there's some faggot going on about how we should be race-mixing.

The anti-abortion message and its potential for damaging feminism has been lost to this mess.

I'll repeat it again because it's bloody important and is well known to all true Holla Forumsacks.

Thank you, brother.

It should have been obvious from his tiki torch comments; that user is shitposting. Filter and ignore him, he's just trying to get (you)s.

And yet, paganism lost.

Fuck's sake.

see:
It's been argued to death for years. You're not bringing anything new to the table, so why do you expect different results?

Reported.

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Hello friend, many of us are actually from Europe and not nigmerica. Believe it or not a lot of white women are having abortions. Believe it or not abortion ranks as one of the highest concerns of women. Believe it or not abortion is one of the main rallying points of feminism.

I don't care about niggers getting abortions. I care about a large percentage of white women buying into feminism because of abortion. I care about white lives being lost because of abortion. Do you really think niggers are going to look at or reading Holla Forums memes? Do you think they're going to even notice if we start a propaganda drive to discourage whites from having abortions? How many niggers even have access to the internet? And of those that do; how many know how to use it? And then again… how many of them are going to be moved by propaganda aimed at whites.

… And if our propaganda is not aimed at whites then we're bloody well doing it wrong.

No mate, WE lost.

You are being a christcuck and seperating religion from race and culture.

WE lost, I lost, YOU lost. You are celebrating your own defeat.

Hitler lost. Will you now declare yourself a Zionist because the jews outlasted the NSDAP? Are your loyalties to your race really so fickle?

You mean, (((christian))) subversion won.

Hi, intl. Reported.

Sweet Lord Ing.

The problem in Europe is the importation of shitskins, not white women having abortions. Europe's white population size is fine. Outbreeding the shitskins isn't the solution. You need to kick them the fuck out, or kill them. Letting them remain but trying to have more children than them is moronic.

The Christian faiths (referring to the Catholic church and Protestant faiths) were good at one point. See: Martin Luther's "On the Jews and their Lies" and the entire shekel-shattering history of pogroms in Europe. The problem is that every major denomination has moved away from strict Supersessionism (the belief that Christians became God's chosen people after the death of Jesus instead of the Jews, who are damned to hell if they don't accept Jesus) to only nominal Supersessionism (Yeah well they have a "special covenant" ok? No, you can't be saved by becoming a Jew…..even though they will all be saved. Stop asking questions, stop reading the Bible, and put the money in the box, goy-err guy!) Strict Supersessionism is the only way for Christianity to be internally consistent. Why is it acceptable to follow the Old Law and the interpretations of the Pharisees (the originators of modern Judaism) when Jesus came to fulfill the Old Law and spent much of his time on Earth railing against the Pharisees? Without this doctrine, any variety of Christianity becomes a tool for the Jews.

user, he isn't stating his opinion on abortion in that post, and your post only serves to reinforce the point he was making that there is no consensus on abortion here.

Christianity keeps getting redone and reapplied more times than communism and what they both have in common is they never work. When the jew hands you a system you reject it outright because the jew has never made anything of value. Whites progressed in spite of christian repression, not because of it. Every time whites succeeded or created a new invention or made a discovery it was not because of rabbi yeshua's teachings, it was because of white tenacity and ingenuity.

It is, in fact, since the population is decreasing.
It is not, in fact, since the population is decreasing.
It is, in fact, as the population is decreasing.
Thanks for asserting something that ABSOLUTELY NO ONE QUESTIONED.

Here's a cleaner version of that meme.

Reported.

Who cares, blacks, arabs, coolies, chinese etc can all become Christians. I wish somewhere a Christian would get this, Christianity is not an ethnic religion, thus dangerous.

It's not so simple. Christianity changed Europeans, but Europeans also changed Christianity, and like it or not (I'm ambivalent), it was germanic Christianity under whose shield and sword Europe conquered the world.

I 100% stand for my race. For my ancestors' beliefs, which were very diverse and often incorrect? Not so much.

>You mean, (((christian))) subversion won.
Millions of Germanics converted by their own free will. Something was obviously not very convincing enough or working with the old practices. I don't necessarily defend this, but if paganism really were so strong and brave as many paint it, people would not have abandoned it.

No it is not. It's bad. Here's a quote from kikepedia:

And I am address the bollocks logic that is being used to ignore this issue. Feminism needs to be destroyed wholesale, and yes there are more problems than just abortion- but abortion is one of the biggest issues and its destruction would definitely aid our cause.

Think about what you are saying, if it was Germanic Christianity and not some other kind of Christianity, then it wasn't Christianity at all, just the Germanic that did the trick.

Appreciate it. I need more updated merchant images featuring the 2015 AWM image set.

I think the Northern Crusades doesn't qualify as converting via free will.
When your peaceful religion is being warred against by a standing army paid for by other converted kingdoms at at the behest of a religious leader, you don't have any choice in the matter.

Just want to point out that the D&C LARPagans who implore us to embrace native European religion and values push barbaric gods of demons and magic (Odin, etc.) and not the philosophy that sustained civilization for centuries (Stoicism).

I'd take them seriously if they sought some kind of Stoic revival as political and cultural ethic.

I've been to the UK. The UK is overpopulated, even discounting all the shitskins. White "rural" parts of the UK are overpopulated. There is hardly any wilderness left at all. There are so many people most of them have to live in apartments, cramped towns or dense suburbia. Without being a millionaire you can hardly afford land to call your own.

There are too many people on that island, living conditions have become undignified. Not befitting white men. Come visit Montana sometime, see how white men are supposed to live.

Not one of them was a jew.

What is charcoal drawing? Fucking pleb.

Agree - I am a racialist, after all. I just pointed this out against those advocating paganism or pagan revivalism.

Should properly be called the Slavo-Baltic Crusades. The Germanics, from the Goths onward, converted more or less freely (often in syncretic forms, of course), elites as well as commoners. I'm not even defending Christianity per se, but even the most hardcore Anti-Christian or paganist has to admit that something didn't work well anymore with the Old Faiths. By the 12th century, even the remotest corners of Europe, even Iceland, was christianized. This is a fact any and all revivialists have to grapple with.

You have to decide - was it now a peaceful religion, or a manly and powerful warrior religion, as many neopaganists assert?

I'm a racialist, so I'd posit it was Christian Germanics fighting other pagan Germanics, Same old, same old.

Silly claim imo. But how does it refute the truth you quoted in even the slightest way user?

Eh yes and no. Most of what Hitler said actually matches up perfectly with Catholicism which makes sense since Hitler himself was born and raised Roman Catholic. The problem was the other things he was saying went against core Catholic and Christian principles. Hitler himself admired Catholic teachings for their strong emphasis respecting Authority and moral code.

Basically if you are going to be a White Nationalist and be CathoDox/Christian do it in the name of the Lord and he will guide you to victory.

In one breath, LARPagans accuse Christians of being weak martyrs, and in the next, of being big meanies who conquered heathen Europeans with the sword.

Absolutely absurd.

When is the last time you went on a crusade?

Are people that reject rabbi yeshua always LARPagans? Serious question. The moment someone expresses disdain for yeshua, do they automatically become a LARPagan?

Also, what is "barbaric god(s) of demon(s) and magic?" Do you seriously follow the soccer mom belief that all hypothetical deities are demons?

Most true Christians are the ones who spread the awareness of Zionism. The Bible was the first book to speak about the Money system being the root cause of all the evil in the world, and it exposed the Rabbis for what they are also.

It is Christianity that literally gave birth to the entire concept of nation-states.

If that is your definition of christian, then christians are so vanishingly rare they may as well not exist at all.

You are a typical atheist trying to ignore all the counter arguments exposing your glaring holes in logic. It's funny nobody accuses the anti Christian bullshit that occasionally pops up on this board of being shills. Lucky if someone calls them what they likely are, a (((kike))).

That's not my definition of a Christian, and the instances a days are less then they were. How many Christian sources do you really look through? There are quite a few that expose Jerusalem as Mystery Babylon and the truh of the hebrews. Just because they also don't openly call people kikes and niggers doesn't mean they aren't exposing the faulty teaching of Zionism.

What’s your point, kike shill? It’s THE definition of Christianity, not a definition. Learn what words are.

You’re saying that because only a few nazis are here–and obviously that only a few nazis exist–that being a nazi isn’t helpful to ideological causes.

Would you like to carefully list them and explain them rather than leave a baseless accusation and see if you can get away with it? Also funny, before I read your post I had no idea I was an atheist. When debating with christcucks you get labeled all sorts of things in place of arguments.
You mean aside from the main portion of this thread and other past threads?
>Lucky if someone calls them what they likely are, a (((kike))).
I don't think you finished that thought.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with a population decreasing, populations ebb and flow. The notion that you must have constant unceasing exponential growth is jewish.

Correct.

Jewish debt-based monetary systems rely on unbounded population growth because they're generational pyramid schemes. Each generation takes on debt which will be paid by the next generation, who pays it by taking on even more debt. This system requires that each successive generation is larger than the last. That's why jews push for unbounded population growth.

When white people get too crowded, we stop having as many kids. That's in our nature, it's part of our biology. But jewish debt-currencies don't work in such a scenario, so the jews cite economics as the reason nations with stabilized populations must import millions of foreigners. The importation of these foreigners causes even more crowding which further depresses the white population reproduction rate.

To end the cycle, you must remove the jews.

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But he's right. I don't even have a stake in that debate, but he's completely right. Call them Hebrews, call them Israelites (although that is a religious, not an ethnical concept), but calling them Jews or even only Judeans is simply incorrect. The very term didn't exist back them. It's just bad scholarship.

This. Glaring inconsistencies, and we're not even talking about the abysmal theology and philosophical grounding of the overwhelming majority of Neopagans. For most it's simply about dancing around trees.

Is this art harmfull? Don´t think so. Unlike what is being pushed in this thread…

"Guys, Christianity is what will save the White Race…."

False. Just look at the "discussion", it ir proof that nothing good or true ever comes from the taint of christcuckoldry.

"R a LARPER, Paganfag!"
"REPORTED 4 Intel!"
"Jesus wasn´t jewish!"

The "christians" shilling this board are barely literate… -)

The useful idiots on the left really crack me up on this one.
Their stupidity and how easily they fall for the kikes' bullshit is almost mind boggling.

You guys say this every time but you clearly do.
By all means, provide "good" scholarship and prove that the "based hebrews" or based "israelites" weren't jewish and that you're not using a technicality to base your argument.

There are no good jews, no matter what you call them.

Can't prove a negative. No, you asserted something, YOU provide evidence for that assertion.

Never said that. All I'm saying is that the Hebrews weren't Jews, for the simple reason that Jews didn't exist at that time. Now, is there some genetic continuity between that founding group and and those we call "Jews" today? Yes! But that wasn't what the other guy claimed. He claimed that the old Hebrews were Jews, and that is clearly, absolutely and 100% wrong.

Meh. The Baltic Crusades were an ethnic as much as a religious event (Germanics vs. Slavs), apart from the profit-seeking motive.

Careful. There were MANY very diverse beliefs before the advent of Christianity.

This might even be partially true, but doesn't change the fact that the paganisms lost and/or were abandoned. No way around that. Germanic Christianity as practiced in the Middle Ages is a good enough compromise for me.

Hebrews were filthy evil semites.

So are you going to kill those of us who its not good enough for unless we convert? I can work with Christians if they don't institute religious tests but typically Christians demand religious purity.

If we're going by that then actually it was 6370ef's job to post that since it was his "assertion." But since you seem to know, you (in all caps), could have provided that evidence on his behalf. We're all just knowledge seekers, aren't we? Unless that knowledge is problematic? It's already a problem that the "hebrews," rather (((hebrews))) fabricated the passover story because not even their alleged being in Ancient Egypt can be substantiated.

Just another baseless victim story. How very jewish.

So you're saying that genetics does not matter even though in reality it does? Protip christcuck, it doesn't matter what the jews call themselves, let alone if they call themselves your savior, they're still jewish and they're still a problem.

So you're suggesting that the northern crusades might have been motivated by profit? That just adds to how malicious the catholic church was and still is.

So basically shit happens? Tough shit? Because it was lost or abandoned means it doesn't matter anymore even though it's a major sign of christian subversion and coercion? I can see why your reaction to the Baltic Crusades gets a resounding meh.

What you prefer as a compromise does not matter. Why did you even bother mentioning that?

I agree. An interesting thing that might be worth artistically focusing on is the weird psychological effects that occur when a woman reaches a certain age and still has no viable offspring… They start trying to fill the gap left by the absence of children with other things. Pets. Dolls. Objects. In their mind, and they may not even realize it, very inappropriate and downright unhealthy things become their children. I once knew a childless woman who carried an 8x10 inch stuffed pillow around with her everywhere she went. She would cradle it and couldn't go anywhere without it… She was very protective of it. Imagine how much she freaked out and how debilitated she became when she lost it one day. This is what happens to many women. This phenomenon is interestingly not limited to humans either.

Important to note is that this effect is not limited to women… It manifests somewhat differently in men though.

I know you hate it, but read the new testament especially sometime with the following understanding: It's a giant red pill for those not conditioned to reinterpret certain elements of it in a special way. Read Titus chapter 1. Paul, a Jewish convert himself, refers to the Jews in extremely unflattering terms as, "those of the circumcision." Christianity is antithetical to rabbinical values and ideals. That's why they're trying so desperately to eviscerate us. They know we're the biggest threat and we always have been. Why?

Because one of the central claims of the New Testament writers is that YHWH has completely abandoned Jews as a collective group IN FAVOR OF GENTILES.

They know that and they HATE HATE HATE that. It means that they're not special anymore. It deprives them of their identity as a people.

Also worth looking into is the "scandal" of Martin Luther's "antisemitism." You have this optimistic, isolated monk who never had to deal with Jews because-think about it-monks generally tend to live in monasteries… The general consensus among the people was that Jews are bad news, but Luther shrugged this off. Luther, optimistic as he was and hoping for eschatological fulfillment, wants to convert them. Then he gets popular for other reasons, the pope turns on him, fast forward a few decades… Now he's talking about locking them inside their synagogues and burning them to the ground. Why? I'm going to go out on a limb here and suggest that maybe he finally got to see what rabbis are really like. The rose colored glasses came off and he could finally see them for what they were: a bunch of depraved psychopaths that have no place among actual Europeans.

Please, I beg of you, stop fighting us and let's work together. Our energy would be far better spent making zionist-brainwashed Christians aware of their true heritage. It's the kikes/communists that want us divided. Divide and conquer is their game.

Because it was a major competing jewish religion that won the popularity contest against the pharisees/talmud jews
Wow that's amazing. The jews who wrote the new testament claim that their jew god loves them more than the other jews who follow the same god.
Actually it's just petty jew infighting. Put yourself in their place if you were a jew at that time. One of the most insulting ways to get back at the other jews who doesn't follow your cult is to say that their god abandoned them and then write it down for new followers to read.

And yet he couldn't see that the reason why the pope hated him was because he wasn't a good goy. This happened to many christian scholars that thought too far into the religion. You start seeing the holes in it and its flaws become too overwhelming. Luther saw only a part of the solution but only got so far as why the jews were bad and not that the whole jewish religious system was bad.

Then why not spend your energy on going after the zionist-brainwashed christians instead of trying to convert Holla Forums? You're wasting your time trying to get those who have redefined antisemitism to new heights to follow a religion based off of worshiping a jew. The D&C thing is way over with in case you haven't noticed. With the amount of Holla Forums threads on /christian/ it's easy to see their priority is getting Holla Forums to follow the jew rather than ending christian zionism. You're better off as a mutually exclusive ally, but you won't commit yourself to that and that's all too revealing about the nature of the /christian/ board.

False dichotomy, shlomo. You're good at those.

I've never heard of false dichotomy being used as a buzzword but you did it. You forgot to say reported for intl.

Reported. Not for intl, but because you're a kike.

I'm not trying to convert you. I don't even believe that I can, I'm a Calvinist. I'm trying to show you a more effective strategy that we can cooperate on while remaining distinct. You love trolling Christians, right? Let me help you, I know the system. You can troll while waking them up about the kikes.

?????? I'm aware that /christian/ is run by Catholics, probably Jesuits, which means they're either kikes or kike sympathizers. I don't really know or care enough to bother finding out as I haven't so much as looked at that board in months. I'm sure they probably have some kind of agenda, but I have nothing to do with them.

…Please, please, please think critically. You possess enough sense to realize that race is real and it matters, so please treat this matter with equal sincerity. You're letting your hatred of Christianity blind you to what I'm saying.

I'm trying to hand you an incredibly potent ideological weapon.

Ephesians 6:12 (NIV)
For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms.

You do realize that doesn't change a thing, right?
I don't troll christians. I debate with them.

That still doesn't change anything. Regardless of /christian/ moderator ownership they are first christcucks and their first obligation is to their religion.

You didn't say anything. Your first post was typical proselytizing which is the fancy word for converting others.
If anything I was leveling with you on saying that your end should be ending zionism amongst christians but somehow you're glancing over that and saying that you're offering something else. This is like that retard from several months ago that claimed that the KJV bible was somehow the killing blow to the jews and the panacea of all of whites problems. The jew book nor the jew religion does anything to help whites. Simply reporting back on what they do, have done, and plan to do is enough for people to rightfully hate them and guess what? Christianity will be collateral in the process because no one who sincerely hates the jews wants anything to do with their brand.

These people are anti-death penalty and pro-animal rights too, are they?
Either way, artificial wombs can't come soon enough, then there will be the best of both worlds- women who can terminate her pregnancy and the father or whoever that wants to take in and raise the unborn child.

It's out of context, it doesn't mean die (though retards often think it does) it means don't act like a nig when someone offends you, a slap on the cheek isn't a bullet in the head.

Admittedly too many christians are pozzed by this, but many of these are the "God loves fags" retards that think God's love means take it in the ass

this is true but at the same time the message is everyone is also a massive piece of shit without God.

This is what I am willing to call a Christcuck inspite of myself being a Christian, any Christian that is not for the removal of the jew is pissing on the lord himself. Jews hate Christ, so to be pro semite is to be anti Christ

No, it doesn't mean that, either. It stems from the diffeents effects on a person's honor by different kinds of slaps. An open-and slap hurts, but isn't considered dishonoring, while a slap with the back-hand is a direct attack on the honor of the receiving person. So if a higher-ranking person, e.g. your father, slaps you with the open hand, and you "turn the other cheek" - thereby possibly provoking a back-handed slap, i.e. a de-facto disinheritance in ancient times -, you are in fact saying "do it faggot. I dare you". A gesture of defiance. This is not my personal interpretation, but was the common view before the advent of romanticism and the invention of modern child-rearing practices.

The problem is that it's typical Jewish word-wrangling. Israel IS the kingdom of God, only that by "Israel" isn't meant some piece of land in the Levant, but the community of the "anointed". Since the Hebrews and thereby the Jews lost the covenant with God, "Israel" in a Biblical/New-Testament sense refers to those believing in the Messias, i.e. Christians.

Here's all the newer AWM stuff:

8ch.net/awyattmann/res/1.html#1

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Pagan/Gentile Reverence for Nature is Seen as a Direct Threat to Urbanite Jewish Spiritual Hegemony

I would like to invite discussion and criticism of this article which offers a Jewish critique of the pagan worldview:

jcpa.org/article/neo-paganism-in-the-public-square-and-its-relevance-to-judaism/

archive: archive.is/WxZsU

The Jewish author writing for the Jerusalem Center for Public Affairs understandably criticizes several aspects of cheesy neo-paganism and modern superstition, but then he goes on to say some striking things which explicitly identify the traditional and organic pagan/gentile reverence for nature as a direct threat to urbanite Jewish spiritual hegemony (advocating instead the Noahide laws as the correct alternative for gentiles). Here are some key quotes from his polemic which struck me the most:

1.) "The ancient revulsion with regard to paganism felt by adherents of Judaism links up with the need to take stock of these contemporary phenomena…Nature is not sacred and its laws represent barbarity; the Noahide laws represent civil society. There are many reasons for Jewish observers to watch attentively which direction the powerful, renewed interest in nature will take, and what consequences this may have for world Jewry."

2.) "Few people realize — and contemporary German Greens prefer not to be reminded of it — that the first major nature-protection laws were issued, of all places, in Nazi Germany…"

3.) "So soon after Nazism, which proclaimed the same, one has again forgotten what dangers the elevation of nature as a norm brings with it for the handicapped, the sexual outsiders, the elderly and inter-racial societies."

4.) "Halakhah is the antithesis of the laws of nature. The latter are cruel: there is no charity in nature; there is no mercy. There is no safety net in nature for marginal beings….There is no equality in nature or anything resembling democracy. Nature should be feared." (Oy gevalt!)

5.) "Furthermore, I postulate that no nation in the twentieth century has lived as much 'in harmony with nature' as Hitler’s Germany."

6.) "Anybody who places nature as the central value in society must be suspect in the eyes of Jews. One should not lump together neo-Nazis, neo-pagans, and extreme environmentalists. Yet all should be watched carefully by Jews, even if the degree of worry they cause greatly differs."

7.) "So what does the return of paganism mean for Judaism? It forces us to focus on the importance of Jewish law and tradition, which proclaims that nature is not the dominant force in the world, nor is it sacred….Nature’s laws represent the world of the savage and barbarian; the Noahide laws represent civil society."

8.) "The Jewish agenda is a very long one. Many things assimilated Jews consider important should be pushed down the Jewish agenda. The new outside reality should help us understand that propagating the Noahide commandments to humanity should have had a higher place on this agenda a long time ago."

9.) "Nothing good for the Jews — nor for society at large — can come out of a worldwide strengthening of paganism."

K, I'm convinced you're a shill now. No honest, white pagan would be this unreasonable and disingenuous.

REMINDER THAT LARPAGANS AND FEDORAS WILL NOT EXIST IN THE 22ND CENTURY

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Neither will whites, but I'm sure that there will be plenty of godly niggers for the palest mongrels among the "European" Christians to self-flagellate over so I don't really understand why semite-worshipers would object.

Blow your brains out.

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You have to be pretty fucking retarded to be atheist Hell the Romans used to execute people for being Atheist.

The First Way: Argument from Motion

Our senses prove that some things are in motion.

Things move when potential motion becomes actual motion.

Only an actual motion can convert a potential motion into an actual motion.

Nothing can be at once in both actuality and potentiality in the same respect (i.e., if both actual and potential, it is actual in one respect and potential in another).

Therefore nothing can move itself.

Therefore each thing in motion is moved by something else.

The sequence of motion cannot extend ad infinitum.

Therefore it is necessary to arrive at a first mover, put in motion by no other; and this everyone understands to be God.

The Second Way: Argument from Efficient Causes

We perceive a series of efficient causes of things in the world.

Nothing exists prior to itself.

Therefore nothing [in the world of things we perceive] is the efficient cause of itself.

If a previous efficient cause does not exist, neither does the thing that results (the effect).

Therefore if the first thing in a series does not exist, nothing in the series exists.

If the series of efficient causes extends ad infinitum into the past, for then there would be no things existing now.

That is plainly false (i.e., there are things existing now that came about through efficient causes).

Therefore efficient causes do not extend ad infinitum into the past.

Therefore it is necessary to admit a first efficient cause, to which everyone gives the name of God.

The Third Way: Argument from Possibility and Necessity (Reductio argument)

We find in nature things that are possible to be and not to be, that come into being and go out of being i.e., contingent beings.

Assume that every being is a contingent being.

For each contingent being, there is a time it does not exist.

Therefore it is impossible for these always to exist.

Therefore there could have been a time when no things existed.

Therefore at that time there would have been nothing to bring the currently existing contingent beings into existence.

Therefore, nothing would be in existence now.

We have reached an absurd result from assuming that every being is a contingent being.

Therefore not every being is a contingent being.

Therefore some being exists of its own necessity, and does not receive its existence from another being, but rather causes them. This all men speak of as God.

The Fourth Way: Argument from Gradation of Being

There is a gradation to be found in things: some are better or worse than others.

Predications of degree require reference to the “uttermost” case (e.g., a thing is said to be hotter according as it more nearly resembles that which is hottest).

The maximum in any genus is the cause of all in that genus.

Therefore there must also be something which is to all beings the cause of their being, goodness, and every other perfection; and this we call God.

The Fifth Way: Argument from Design

We see that natural bodies work toward some goal, and do not do so by chance.

Most natural things lack knowledge.

But as an arrow reaches its target because it is directed by an archer, what lacks intelligence achieves goals by being directed by something intelligence.
Therefore some intelligent being exists by whom all natural things are directed to their end; and this being we call God.

You don't even need to believe in the Christian God for this to work.

Yes, this is classic theology, and we're not even entering via negativa/apophatic theology here. The large majority of atheists cannot argue their way out of a wet paper bag and are seriously lacking in basic philosophical education. It's a huge scam, perpetrated by halfwits like Dawkins and others of the self-fellating "new atheism" crowd.

That you must invoke tortuous logic to justify the destructive tendencies of Christianity is all I need to know. Were Christianity a true belief, God would have preserved it untainted. Christianity now is the seed of Christianity then; a good tree bears not corrupt fruit. The failure of your religion to preserve itself, and to protect western European, and her scions in America, Canada, and Australia, is all the proof one needs to form the inevitable conclusion that Christianity offers but false salvation.

Just look, look at the fanatical support for Jews, and Israel, among modern Christians. Look at the modern application of "charity" which leads the blackened masses to our doorstops.
Look at it!

THIS is your legacy!
This is your cross to bear!
Your kind, O snivelling, simpering, limp-wristed purveyors of "forgiveness", have given the Jews a nigh-impregnable redoubt, protected by the very people who might have otherwise formed the bulwark of a higher cause. Because of you, the path to a future where the fourteen words can be truly fulfilled is interminably lengthened, filled with darkness, shadow, brambles, and doubt–and you have the nerve to argue that you have a place among us!

Begone! You have no place here.

It is, and he did. Try harder.

Holy fuck, could you BE more obvious?

These arguments are embarrassments – abortions of logic.

You can not use logic to prove God exists; of course, neither can you use logic to prove God exists not.
The existence of a higher power is axiomatic.
The easiest justification of the belief in a higher power is that there are too many questions or concepts which cannot be answered, nor even defined, without the assumption of a higher power. There are other justifications, but I doubt anyone reading this will have the basic level of intelligence required to grasp them. Let's just stick with "you can't define 'right' or 'wrong' without assuming a higher power" since that is, by and large, sufficient for our purposes.

There is no moral justification for atheism, on the grounds that moral values are fundamentally incompatible with the atheistic modality; hence, if one assumes atheism is correct, nothing one does can be morally wrong. Atheists who object to the religious are hypocrites; because it is impossible to define "right" and "wrong" in purely physical terms; there is nothing inherently better or worse, in any absolute meaning of either term, to any particular configuration of subatomic particles or energy states, as opposed to any other. Hence, by their own logic, the configuration of energy states and particles which causes a person to practice Catholicism, or totalitarian fascism, or Satanic ritual murder of infants, are not particularly "better" than, say, the configurations resulting in a person who gives to the poor or cares for the sick. This is, incidentally, proof of atheism being a religion, because they meet the basic criteria: they aggressively proscelitize their beliefs, they attack "non believers" without physical provocation, they have a canon of saints and sarviours (Dawkins, Hawking, Kurzweil); they even have a "rapture event" in the form of the Singularity, complete with intangible and unprovable all-powerful deity figure who punishes the unbelievers etc etc–but I digress.

Christianity is an embarrassment, and a failure, but atheism is a travesty and a joke.
As for the right path–I couldn't tell you what it is. I just live on this planet; I'm not god.

No. Your religion is not untainted; it began tainted. I don't feel like reiterating what I've posted in other threads, but the short version is that Christianity has caused enormous harm in the past 1700 years. The old ways had their problems, but they didn't result in the emasculation of man, the acceptance of divorce, or hundreds of other ills.
Considering the near-total dominion of the Catholic church and its children, in the not-so-distant past, I hold Christians fully accountable for the way things are now. It was your belief system that got us into this mess; hence I reject it, and I reject you.
SJWs, niggers and women voting, and Jewry in every corner–this is your legacy. Now, choke on it.

Much huffing and puffing, not a single argument. Typical kikery. That you types despise Christianity and attack it wherever you can is proof enough for me that modern Europe should, at least implicitly, stand by its Christian roots.

Right, we should become christians because of haters and not because of some good reason.

Jews are not children of Abraham. Christ says this explicitly. They are descended from the Pharisees, who are children of the devil.

But they are. The Christian right directly supports Israel. Youtube censored atheists, not christians.

You completely ignored his arguement.

There are no unpozzed Christians, only otherwise sane people who happen to also be Christians.

It's like the great scientsts from the olden days.
They were great scientists despite being Christians, and, in fact, often had to oppose the church, etc.

In another thread where someone points out all the pagan influences in Christianity:

The CQ is simple. Would you rather whites go extinct or Christianity go extinct? Both cannot continue to exist.

Don't argue with SJWs, they will lie lie lie.

Kill yourself, kike.

No Christian supports Israel, just as no Holla Forumsack supports Israel.
No, paid shill, what you see is the equivalent of people posting on Holla Forums and claiming to be Holla Forumsacks while supporting Israel.

Go blow up an abortion clinic you christcucks. You cry about babies being murdered for decades and literally do nothing. Fucking cowards won't even try to save babies you claim are being murdered.

You'll want to shill harder than that, yid.
lol no
Neither did Christianity. Shill harder, YID.
So not Christianity, got it.
Shill harder, yid.
Yes, the belief system that says "jews are literally demons and should be given no quarter" totally let the jews take over. Sure thing, YID.
Enjoy dying in a fire with the kikes who pay you, then.
Literally the exact opposite, but I wouldn't expect a yid to have ever actually read the Bible.

What are you even trying to say here?

Great come back Aquinas, Jesus is proud of you.

Have an actual argument, yid. You've yet to post one.

they're eternal cucks, praying help from above, and not doing anything, I have more respect to people honestly murdering unwanted or retarded kids than christ cucks

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