How do we make the radical left angry again?

How do we make the radical left angry again?

I see that all the anger of the working class is being derailed towards racism and not towards the true enemy (🐷).

Derailed towards racism? Where?

White nationalist movements all over europe, trump getting elected because kicking the browns will solve everything.

And blacks being racist against whites too in stuff like BLM (only some people).

The racism is just a reaction to the idpol libtards constantly painting them as devils for being white.

The only thing that needs to be done is to kill off idpol once and for all, but it's frankly so ingrained into this scum that I have no idea if that's even possible. They honestly sound like robots to me, incapable of giving anything but the coded idpol responses.

Has it ever occurred to you that perhaps working class feels threatened and attacked by an influx of brown people from other countries that contribute nothing and take lots of welfare?

I'm glad to help my countrymen and women, provided they are only taking welfare and aid so that they can later on do something for me, or in return offer something of value to society.
What value to society, or personal gain for me in my future (like retirement) do brown immigrants that pay no taxes and take tons of welfare give me?

Why would I NOT want to kick them out if all they do is leech? I care about equality only as long as everyone plays their part, these browns are not playing their part, so they can go fuck themselves and leech somewhere else.

If you consider this racism, you consider self interests to be racist, in which case fuck you and fuck off.

We're aware of that fear, but it's induced from the very elites you support AND it's based on nonsense and feelings.

What elites? What I hear from the elites is "love the immigrants, let them in, don't be racist, they're just like us, borders are a social construct, help those in need".

And how is it based on nonsense and feelings, do I have to bring up crime and income statistics, birth rates, etc?
I support no elites, because as I see it their interests do not align with mine.
Prove to me that not wanting brown immigrants that take tons of welfare and do nothing but have children and take from the locals is based on nonsense and feelings.

Hate brown people on welfare derives the hate to the real parasites, the ones creating the wars that make inmigration happen, the ones that exploit you and the workers around the world.

Who says I don't hate both.

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I don't consider social parasites to be working class, bud.

follow your leader stormfaggot

I'll be willing to partake in your socialist utopia when everyone actually contributes something.
So far all I see is that my taxes, taxes taken by pigs and kikes upwards from me, go to not me. Some go to my kin and people I have sympathy towards, and many don't.

Why do people from other countries have to get in on my socialist utopia without doing anything? I'd like a socialist utopia, but with closed borders. I have no time or desire for freeloaders.

Since when is this main talking point nowdays? It's terrorism and fear of being replaced. It has nothing to do with muh welfare.

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Has to do for me.
I'm all for helping my fellow workers when they're in a bad slump, I'm all for giving to the elder that can't do anymore after they've done something for all of us all their life.
I'm NOT for giving to freeloaders, either local or foreign. Ever wondered why I have no issue with legal worker migrants, only welfare leeching ones? Think about it for more than 2 seconds and try not to pin racism on me.

follow your leader stormfaggot

Hitler is not my leader.
Nice arguments btw, really convinced me.

follow your leader stormfaggot

Not an argument.

so you're a Asserist ?

As it stands right now, I don't indentify with any large political ideology, past or present.
I did love Stirner and Mill.

I live in what you could call a socialist country, but I don't like it, because I feel like the "other socialists" are not filling in on their end of the bargain. I have no time for pigs just as I have no time or sympathy for fake proletariats that actually don't do anything but take from the system in place.

Pick one. Even if they were unemployed, they're still being used by porky as the reserve army of labour. Their purpose is to create an oversupply in the labour market, meaning that workers dare not stand up for themselves since they can be easily replaced by immigrants who can easily be taken advantage of. The bad guy in this situation is the porky who engineered the whole thing to break the working class, not your fellow proles.

HAHAHAHAHAHA

radical left is always angry.
To make them angry, just have a succesfull life yourself and you will see how quickly they will turn agressive and angry towards you.

i was a former leftist

I didn't say they were taking our jobs, in fact I specifically mentioned how I have nothing against working immigrants that partake in society.
I don't think any syrian migrant would ever take my job, nor expect it to happen, not my concern.

They are not my fellow proles, end of story. They're not part of my class.

Yeah, I know your type.

Let me ask you, who drains more from society, the guy who lives on welfare, whether voluntarily or involuntarily (not every immigrant is a freeloader), who uses most of his money to pay rents and loans and groceries; or the guy who makes billions leeching off the labour of thousands of workers, who doesn't pay a dime in taxes, who uses his money to influence the world to the benefit of him and the detriment of you, and who leaves the majority of his earnings in offshore bank accounts, never investing it in anything?

The problem of immigrants and welfare queens is a false problem. Its effects are mostly inconsequential to the broader economy. The real problem, the real welfare queen, is the 1%.

Cool story, brah.

Obviously. This is why we gas the kikes.

So you actually agree with me. The problem is that you bring up that just because welfare queens are a "minor problem" they're not a problem at all. And I don't think that is so.

Again, I hate the 0.1% as much as you do, I just don't believe that social parasites are "fellow proles" or "in my class". To me they're in another class, the leech class that is as applicable to the 0.1% to Achmed from Morocco and his three wives and 7 children, who pays no schooling, no taxes, no food, etc.

If you don't stand with them, Porky is going to make them stand against you. Remember when unions were segregated so the elites could just send unemployed black people in to break strikes? Then the non-segregated IWW appeared and they had to assassinate their leaders and put the rest in prison to stop them.

So I stand to get them the fuck out of my country so Porky can't use them to stand against me.
Where's the secret?

You won't be able to, since every moment you spend not defending from the Bourgeoisie is a moment the Bourgeoisie is attacking you without a defense, and even if you could get them out, by the time you'd have done that, you'd have so few rights that they would be bringing new immigrants before you could even start organizing back.

Imagine having a 2m tall black guy with his dick right between your ass cheeks, and trying to get another dude to hold you, before proceeding to use you for the exact same thing.
Your strategy is to try and fight the other dude, which puts effectively a 9" dick right in your rectum, instead of convincing the other dude to repel the rapist.
Unless you like to take cocks up in the ass, I urge you to reconsider your strategy for a better living standard.

The thing is, there will always be leechers. There will always be leechers even if you ship all of the immigrants out of the country. Because that shit is universal.

When you take part in the right-wing narrative, you help alienate those 'working immigrants' that you say you support. Better to rally those who do work to help take on the big fish, Capitalism, rather than linger on the small fish, the leechers and the petty criminals.

So you agree with me that keeping the borders closed is good for me because it helps keep people porky would use against me in case I wanted to make a stand and change things. Good to know.

Why is this a racism issue again? As I stated earlier I act and talk on my self interests, and everyone here has done nothing but agree with me over and over, except when they were busy crying racism, of course.

Now is when you call me a fascist, but I'm of the idea that the leeches should be sent to labor camps and put to use forcibly.

Keeping the borders closed increases the chances of jobs being outsourced and wages being lowered, it's what people with no economic forethought whatsoever want to happen.

Racism, besides being stupid, impedes you this collaboration you need.
And no one has agreed with you, you've just put some kind of weird strawmen that you defended instead of bashing them

Except porky is relying on you opposing them, both to destract you from opposing porky and to make sure that they have no problem taking your job. You are being weaponized against each other. The unemployed are one of capitalism's deadliest weapons against the workers, and it's only overcome through solidarity.

And what would it gain, exactly?

Forcing people to work in camps ends up costing more than getting them to work by other means, that's why slavery and serfdom disappeared in the first place

I'm not the share happy kind of person, and never will be.

ITT: Holla Forums attempts to poison the well with racial theology for the #93902390230929th time

it's never going to work you proselytizers, give up and go back home

Damn. Busted again.

{spoiler]dismissing ideas you don't agree with does not make them go away[/spoiler]

Shill detected.

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