"Fiscally Conservative, Socially Liberal" outed as AstroTurf

A lot of us did, it's the first step out of status quo Liberalism that we get infected with as kids by
modern TV/Movies/Education.

Many oldfags went through a lolbertarian phase the important thing is to now reject that jewish subversive ideology on a fundamental philosophical level.

good eye

What source is this from, OP?

You mean "fiscally conservative, socially conservative", right OP? Because that was their platform, muh free markets plus social conservatism. What looks BTFO is that anyone gives a shit about economic "conservatism" (i.e. liberarlism, these terms are retarded).

What the actual fuck does this mean, were they just using a different wording to mean liberal/authoritarian?

The way I see this, Conservatives tend to be more fiscally responsible

The terms are retarded only because Jews rebranded all the ideologies. Liberal = liberty = less government control, conservative = conserve = government control to preserve. Social liberalism in the traditional sense has whites lynching niggers that fall out of line, Social liberalism in the modern sense is Socialist progressiveism with a new name to avoid cold war propaganda amygdala hijacks. In essence really the social control axis isn't progressive vs conservative but rather the how is the social will of the people going to be executed axis, the same applies to the economic axis but thats a whole other rabbit hole of fuckery

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It's overwhelmingly liberal fiscally. That's a very wide range, and it does include National Socialism (albeit not the same extent as conservatively left-wing forms of socialism). Essentially, it just demonstrates something that we already know - most people don't know shit about economics and would rather blame everything on the capitalism system instead of bad government, since it means they don't need to take any responsibility.

If I took one of these spectrum tests I'm positive I'd be left of centre.

I attribute it to pro-worker sentiment growing on the right. It's not a surprise when you have even farmers getting fucked by DRM in their tractors.

Trumps supporters: high IQ moderates and traditionalists

Clinton supporters: insane ideological communist and beta egalitarians

k, here's what you just said illustrated. i guess it makes sense……..

I actually fall in the bottom right ish and I vote libertarian

i guess there are some dots there

you are my favorite kind of user
never leave
your here forever

The shit part to it is that you get sentiments like this:

When even a modicum of political and economic knowledge shows that the things fucking people over aren't coming from the market, they're coming from the government. Things like patent laws are what fuck over the US, for instance, combined with insane restrictions like "no experimental cancer medications" and other shit meant to "protect the people" which just screws them over.

I'm not saying that the market needs to be entirely free. One of the better ideas that I've seen associated with NatSoc theory which certainly needs incorporation in any system is the issuance of government loans to citizens for housing or education, at no interest. And, of course, combining this with the single most important law - the complete banning of usury (interest) in all forms and degree. Interest is the tool of the Jew to control better men, and a tool for fueling artificial growth - a bubble which will inevitably burst.

Once you understand the necessity of eugenics, you'll change those views.

yeah no, I don't disagree we are not a base but we do exist and we are trying to convince other people to join us.

that being said I've been slowly drifting more and more socially conservative.

trans in the military is a no for me.

but marriage is not a gov thing except when we talk taxes and IDK if two guys should get a tax break… definitely if they adopt but I'm hesitant about that.

oh yeah the nig nogs need to be removed.

liberalism was promoted by Freemasonry. Freemasonry was a fraternity created by Jews to encourage Kabolism amongst the elite and upwardly mobile middle class created during Murchinalism. "Liberté, Egalité, Fraternité" was meme created by Jews to subvert the Monarchies and religious institutions of Europe. The french revolution was financed by Jews. Haym Salomon was a huge financial backer of the American Revolution. Liberalism is intentionally illusive and easily redefined because it was merely a used as political leverage to push their Zionist Agenda. Same is true of Communism, Libertarian and Critical Theory. Zionism is not Jewish Nationalism, it's Jewish World Domination. The only organizations to effectively attempt to stand up to this was National Socialism, Fascism and the Catholic Church. Unfortunate all three organizations where sufficiently crushed by the end of the 20th century.

Yeah it's not actually "free markets" but that "the market is the most important thing", which have become synonyms in politics. That's what people are reacting against.

Friedrich Hayek's argument for the natural evolutionary development of social institutions aka Survival of the Fittest for cultural and business institutions in a competitive market and his support for Pinochet is what lead me to Fascism. Fascism is what lead me to reading Mein Kampf, Julius Evola, Plato, Aristotle, René Guénon and the Protocols of Zion. That and a friend of the family who was a relatively high ranking official in the US Armed forces and first responder at the Pentagon during the 9/11 attacks and he swears to this day that it was a missile launched by Mossad and that the Jews run the United states government. I used to think he was just a bit crazy or was trying to pull my leg. But then I learned about Irving Kristol.

The horror! If only the church had more influence we would probably have twice as many third worlders being imported to our nations, not only that the pope could impeach that mean old Drumpf.

Virtually all censorship in the US is coming from the free market. Millions of foreigners are being brought in by the free market on work permits. It's companies like Google, Twitter, Facebook, Reddit that are censoring us. It's the free market that is firing us from our jobs if are views are known or holding the threat of firing over us. 90% of propaganda and degeneracy being pushed is coming out the free market like Hollywood. There's not one corporation pushing anything we want either with propaganda or finance. The number of corporations pushing out propaganda against us and financing against us are legion. Name one corporation that supports us. Media outlets are constantly pushing out propaganda against us and 95% of these are from the free market.

Like I said. I'm not going to cuck for international capital. It doesn't serve us to help Jews make more money and to be able to more efficiently destroy us.

The church traditionally was against miscegenation. The Tower of babble It wasn't until after Vatican II did the church became the cucked institution it is today. Christianity was founded on antisemitism. The Babylonian Kikes that killed Christ.

"When the most High divided to the nations their inheritance, when he separated the sons of Adam, he set the bounds of the people…" Deuteronomy 32:8

Actually most of them are being brought in by churches with tax exempt status

was a cautionary tale in the bible warning against the evils of globalism.

I don't care about what happened hundreds of years ago, all I'm saying is I'm glad the current popes opinion only matters in third world countries.

well there in lies the problem you dumb nigger. If you understood what lead to the decline then you would better understand how to fight against the current trends. Instead you spew low energy ignorant memes.

what is the source of this information btw?

You picked the wrong guy to push the NRX view with. The very existences of Lutherans shows the problems with any church having excessive control of the state.

btfo by

History is the root, politics is the fruit.

I want summer to be over

Nah. its just showing too many outliers. The point you draw the axis is arbitrary because conservative and liberal are relative to eachother.

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I have a better one

Very nice sir.

High concentration zones:
There's a surprise…

Tip Top Cuck.

Neoreaction is Jewish you retard. I am a Reactionary and a Fascist. Anderson may be a heretic but even a heretic is capable of telling the truth and the truth is the Bible warns about the evil rebellious nature of the Tribe of Judah and it does not condone miscegenation.

A fair number of Holla Forumslacks go through a faggoty libertarian phase, the important thing is that you grow out of it.

Tbh, 31 sounds nice. Naturally natsoc/fascism will rise to the top in such an environment.

it's almost like they have absolutely no creativity.

Time to lurk summer kid.

ngiga do you even know how much government funded all 3 of those
how much government continues protecting them
you think government is free market? only in a retards understanding

Is that an actual advertisement?

lmao, literally hitlers . i love it

The red is clustered around the center right.

That's not true at all. The left are heavily into a stronger central government. That's how they get socialism to work until it eventually tanks the country. The right are far more into a weaker central government and stronger state governments.

The biggest opponents to Communism are it's own alienated supporters. That's why they get shot first.

What about neomasculinity? Founder is not jewish but a 100% semitic pozzlem.

That, and
gas the kikes race war now

What market? The market doesn't exist independently from the government. Government funded universities create leftists. Government regulations and credentialism make it so that these leftists get jobs. Those leftists then use their job positions to spread their leftism in the market. The government is the source.

It was the "fine, fuck each other in the ass but don't take any money." response. But that deal was never on the table.

you can go ahead and try to reform Xtianity to something that isn't about a desert jew telling everyone they are equal before G-d
And instead some pro-white aryan religion deserving of worship
you can pretend it isnt about getting together in a cross shaped building to get on our knees and beg, BEG ON OUR KNEES, a crucified jew to
FORGIVE
us. For what I'm not sure, for being alive i guess.
I mean go ahead, perhaps you can ask Yeshua to give you some tips on how to further subvert the natural spiritual tendecies of whites to the gain of a pedophilic privately, celibate publically cult.

Immigration is not something the market can take care of - it's a matter of the government. You bring that up as an issue, but you clearly fail to understand it in its entirety. Let's look at two things first:

The first is a simple economic model. Under theory alone, the higher the number of workers, the more competition in the market, and the more labor is available. The wealth of the nation increases. Hence why you see a few liberal apprentice economics who latch onto this, and claim that immigration is a great thing. Libertarians often fall under this category as well.

The second is the viewpoint you and others give, which is that immigration results in a flood of foreign workers, which hurts the economy. The first part is right, but the second is only half right. These workers, at least according to theory, are helping the economy. It's the practical application where things become more obscured.

The practical application is this: When new workers flood the market, they come in willing to work jobs at lower wages than the citizens already present. This has been repeated in the US by the Irish, the Italians, and in the present day the Mexicans, the Indians, and the Chinese. This alone does make the economy healthier - notice how the US boomed as a result of immigration from Europe. However, our current model makes this unsustainable, for a few reasons:

1. The US government provides numerous welfare programs. There is no longer an incentive for these individuals coming from abroad to work, as they can live a better life off of the state than they could doing an entry-level job.
2. The US government enforces a minimum wage. This causes a shortage in the number of entry-level jobs available, which also leads to the existence of jobs targeted towards illegal aliens. It also makes it harder for young persons to find entry-level jobs, pushes inflation, and is rapidly driving the push to automation.
3. The immigrants being targeted for lower-wage jobs are not English speakers, unlike those brought in from Europe. They refuse to adapt to American culture, and more than tat, they bring in waves of crime, enough that the damages inflicted to the country every year overwhelming beat out the advantages.

Who benefits from this? The wealthy - mostly Jews - who sit at the top of the major corporations. The same organizations that always take advantage of massive tax cuts and subsidies from the US government, while at the same time giving kickbacks to the politicians, who push for laws which are advantageous to them.

Immigration reform is a necessity. Alongside the banning of usury and programs to incentivize white births, it is one of the three most important issues that you can have. However, it is not a matter of the market - it is a matter of the government. And regulation of immigration, though it has an impact on the market, is not regulation of the market. It is a protection service - which is what the government exists to do. To protect the people of the nation, and never to hold dominion over their lives.

If you look at the corporations that are causing problems, you'll note that nearly all of them have reached that point through lack of competition - a lack of competition supported through the government. The same goes for education, and so long as universities receive backing from the state, subversion will remain. And all of this, of course, starts in the government run public schools.

To this:
Is a bit wrong.

The whole gimmick of Christianity is that you were already forgiven, and you're supposed to accept that. You ask for forgiveness when you knowingly commit a sin, but it's not a matter of begging. Nor is it a matter of being on your knees.

That misunderstanding was one pushed by the Catholic Church - an institution which, despite some who claim otherwise, has been corrupt for a very long time, and arguably from the very sort. In Revelations, most of the letters Jesus asked to be sent to the early Churches were all critical of how they were interpreting his teachings, and it was those Churches which he was critical of which carried on their teachings to become the Catholic Church. That great men arose from it was not a result of it, but in spite of it. Further, the Whore of Babylon is meant to serve as a representative of the (at the time, future tense) Catholic Church, which has long lost its purity. Reforming the Catholic Church is a lost cause.

But I digress - the Catholics pushed that sort of viewpoint, up until Martin Luther came along and called them out on their bullshit. The Reformation should have meant an end to those issues. But Luther wasn't the only person who got in on it - and a lot of the others were not scholars in the same vein as he was. Thus you ended up with insane viewpoints like those of the Calivinists. Further, it also greatly weakened the power of the Church by splintering it, which led to a rise in irreligion and immortality. Or, rather, allowed what had been hidden just below the surface to fully display itself.

Now returning to the original point, Christianity is a religion where begging and crying are not part of it. There are no sacrifices, because the basis of its theology rests on the idea that a "final sacrifice" has already been performed, by God himself. Instead, the mindset which the New Testament suggests is a very simple one: look for a wife, find your wife, join together as two person with your wife, have kids with your wife, and eventually die and go to Heaven. Along the way, don't steal things, kill people who didn't have it coming, or put your dick somewhere it didn't belong. Try to get with other followers and talk about things from time to time, and help out people who are worse off than you are. Work hard, and be the best you can. Don't be prideful, but don't deny what you've accomplished or show false humility. Pray every once in a while to show you care, ask for forgiveness if you did something wrong, and share the Gospel with those close to you.

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Yep, there's no way to have a progressive society free of hate without massive wealth redistribution.

Proof against the contrary: Southern Europe lost it's blond aristocracy and South-America experienced racemixing from the beginning, that and Christianity started amongst racemixed people in the Roman Empire.

So no, Christianity was not anti-racemixing.

But [people] seem to hate even more when they're given gibs.

ofc they weren't, but that's only because they didn't know about the nigger, ant-people etc…

Stop.

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no

Nobody ever said niggers were smart.

What horrible labeling.

They don't see it as a gift. They view it as something they are owed. Take their gibs away, and it is as if you have stolen from them. Make them aware of the gibs, let them see people receive it instead of them, and they will feel cheated.

What garbage dump did you drag this piece of shit chart out from?

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If you haven't been an edgy fedora liberal, a full on commie and a libertarian at some point you've never really felt the full Holla Forums influence. Lots of us have gone through phases all over the spectrum, and natsoc tends to be the destination. No matter what you might believe right now.

If one doesn't buy wide brim then one cant complain about looking like a faggot.

*experience
Excuse my brain flatulence

"The churches" aren't responsible for the Hart–Celler Act, you fedora sniffing spiritual Jew. Take your religious D&C bullshit somewhere where somebody might actually buy it.

Where are all these low quality fedora shills coming from? Is proof that we were right all along about the demographics of American ideology really something to warrant this level of attempted conversation subversion?

user you completely avoided the central issue of my post. American kikes redefined political ideologies to avoid the stigma certain ideologies gained in the 20th century. Prior to the immediate present, nobody but Americans called leftists liberals.

I'm pleased to say that I only went through the lolbertarian phase for a little over a month. It was a that time that I purchased Atlas Shrugged. Agonized my way through most of it and then finally just resorted to skimming through monologue after monologue. I realized at that moment that the free market had already failed me and that I would never get my money or time wasted on that book back. Ayn Rand is still one of the best female writers I have ever read |:^)

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Why is it upside down

It's not.

well, what do you expect - that's literally Jew-land and they're only 2% of the population (and many signal commie)

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sicut_Judaeis

Sicut Judaeis (Latin: "As the Jews") was a papal bull setting out the official position of the papacy regarding the treatment of Jews.

The first bull was issued in about 1120 by Calixtus II and was intended to protect Jews. It was prompted by the First Crusade, during which over five thousand Jews were slaughtered in Europe. The words sicut Judaeis ("and thus to the Jews") were first used by Pope Gregory I (590-604) in a letter addressed to the Bishop of Naples. Even then the Pope emphasized that Jews were entitled to "enjoy their lawful liberty."[1]

The bull was reaffirmed by many popes including Alexander III, Celestine III (1191-1198), Innocent III (1199), Honorius III (1216), Gregory IX (1235), Innocent IV (1246), Alexander IV (1255), Urban IV (1262), Gregory X (1272 & 1274), Nicholas III, Martin IV (1281), Honorius IV (1285-1287), Nicholas IV (1288-92), Clement VI (1348), Urban V (1365), Boniface IX (1389), Martin V (1422), and Nicholas V (1447).[2][3]

The bull forbade Christians, on pain of excommunication, from forcing Jews to convert, from harming them, from taking their property, from disturbing the celebration of their festivals, and from interfering with their cemeteries.

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It was a thing back in the early 2010's, when people were saying it. Same story as libertarianism - White people who realized that the current setup was a raw deal for them, but still believed there was an egalitarian solution.

Once they realized that there wasn't any incentive to play the moderate, they became "edgy libertarians", then gradually dropped the libertarian part entirely. It helped that the statistics involving gay rates of pedophilia and HIV gradually became more mainstream.