SpaceEngine Thread

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Everyone here already knows about space engine slowpoke.

I pirated No Man's Sky expecting something that wasn't fun, but just comfy. I couldn't even find that when playing it. I hope this isn't nearly as boring.

I wish they would combine this game with sim city 4,elite dangerous/Xseries,and kerbal.

Is there a Linux version?

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You're going to feel the true scale of our universe and have panic attacks on how insignificant we are

Hopefully some heartbroken numan fanboys get a refund and invest in spess engine. I'd love to see the MMO that Space Engine could be one day

its still fucking boring but you can get some great screenshots out of it

Space Engine is far superior to No Mans Shekels, because Space Engine doesn't try to lie to you and pretend its something its now. Plus the graphics are superior which is just sad

But its fairly plain, its a virtual planetarium thats 1:1 scale with the entire known Universe and then some, take that how you will

Oh and
CHECK THE DONATION GOALS OF SPACE ENGINE
The guy's hoping to expand the universe simulation into a full scale space MMO with huge spaceships, stations and whatever you can think of. AND he's not pushing preorders and kikestarter-tier shit, just accepting donations to help his work. FFS he's already finished some features that are meant to be part of later "goals"

en.spaceengine.org/index/funding_and_donations/0-26

kind sage because >page 1

Alright, sorta off topic but since I'm an absolute autist I started a little worldbuilding project in my spare time. I painstakingly drew in MS paint the map of my imaginary planet Lilith, which spontaneously appears in a circular orbit between Earth and Mars via a reality restructuring event. This is the base for additional maps (biome chart, elevation/sea depth, etc) and is still WIP.

Are there any online apps where I can upload this image file to have it wrapped around a 3D sphere to get a real Idea of what the planet will look like? I made sure the features on the left and the right edges of the map line up perfectly so there's no ugly "jump" on one side of the Lilith.

Isn't he a slav? Either way I'll wait to see how it plays out.

I tried to make a spaceship and everything is pitch black and I have no clue what I'm doing
halp ;_;

Send help

Ok, it's obvious now that nothing is fucking showing up, and I'm not finding anything about glitch like this. Anyone know if I just fucked something up?

He has just begun to add procedural vegetation, I believe.

He’s a Russian with multiple doctorates in relevant fields of study, so he’s about as far from a scam as a slav can get.

THIS IS MAJOR TOM TO GROUND CONTROL

Hopefully it leads to that madman getting more donations at least. I just hope he doesn't listen to faggots that want MC in space.

kek

So it looks like space ships spawn in some void far away for whatever fucking reason. Fuck them.

Now I'm flying around space at light speed and it's blowing my fucking mind. But here's the thing. Somewhere along the line it zoomed me out a lot so everything is really small.

How do I get back small and how do I STAY small while I zip around?

can't you use make a sphere in like blender and use your thing as texture?

SO MANY OF YOU PLAYING AT ONCE!

Fly into a black hole.
It's trippy.

I remember going super fast and seeing the universe turn into a mess of light and then the game crashing.

I didn't really find anything too cool. Still would play it over NMS though.

Finding planets with life is going to be so much better when there are things to see. It's already my favorite thing to do.

How do I turn off the UI? I found the button to disable the interface (ctrl~) but it only disables the stuff on the top left.

And yes I know I can record or take screenshots with the rest of it off but I want it to be off always.

ok multiplayer?

Click something and press G.

Use blender. Make a sphere. Set that as a texture.
You should be able to find a tutorial for making a textured sphere.

Also, you've made the pixels at the left and right edges match but there's still going to be a discontinuity in the angle of the coast line, at least for the top one. It probably won't be too noticeable.

Is there honestly anybody on 8/v/ who hasn't already tried Space Engine? Everyone here should be in their mid to late 30s and have been following SE since it first went public.

I didn't but thats because I had a shitty computer
I suppose I could try it now.

I had to spend most of last year without it because of a busted PC. Pretty sure it runs better now, get a bit of stuttering at first but it seems to smooth out.

I just tried it for the first time 10 minutes ago, holy shit you fuckers weren't kidding this is strangely intense. I ended up turning off the music and putting on embed related while starting from a planet in ship mode and slowly going faster and faster until I reached the end of the known universe and was all alone in the deep void, this is extremely terrifying.

still wish I could turn the UI off though.

I haven't played this (game?) until now but holy hell it is not comfy.

You may not be able to die, be threatened, see scary monsters, get jumpscared, or really have any resources to give a shit about losing but holy hell it is a special kind of terrifying. I think I knew how scary this was when I decided to fly to another galaxy for the first time and tried to slow down before arriving and overshot it, I can't really describe how it felt but you should definitely give this a go.

ok, i played/traveld for, i don't know 14 houres?

so first i watchd the sunrise on earth

than explored a little bit our galasy and found nice two suns

i explored an astroid near by.

when i turned around i doscovers a big fucking planet

man, i rly need sleep, i type like a monkey.

anyway…

so i traveld away from our galaxy

and jumped into the best next galaxy on a randome planet

nice atmosphere, earth like with vulcans

i climbed one

few more screenshots

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i saw a galaxy with a little galxay in it. ;_;

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fix'd

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oh, that looks nice. Where is this :°)

X-Wing vs Tie Fighter mod when?

he could have wrote down the planet name but decided to be stupid knowing how big space is

I don't actually want to go back, it's just crazy to think about

noyce

There are little pins for the UI stuff that should autohide them unless you mouse over the edges, like the bottom menus.

and for screenshots use F11

Thanks friend, have my favorite picture as repayment

That gets to me sometimes. From Earth we can observe billions of galaxies that all almost certainly have their own intelligent life and incredible systems. However, out of those billions of galaxies and planets we can observe, we can only visit one: Andromeda. It is literally impossible to explore anything outside of the local group of galaxies that includes the Milky Way. Everything else is moving away faster than the speed of light due to the expansion of the universe. Even if we somehow got the Alcubierre drive working we would never catch up to them. What scares me isn't that we are insignificant, what scares me is that there is a unbreakable limit to how significant we can become, and because of that we are doomed to always be insignificant.

Space Engine is perfectly comfy.

en.spaceengine.org/forum/17

welp, theres is more.

You can book mark stuff, next time right click and save it.

this

and if we think about correctly, those who are already far away, those who exist way longer than us, those who we never can catch up with… wait… those who where the very first and now at the front of all happenings, are the most advanced and intelligent beings of the entire universe.

And here is the thing we actually know after we saw where we are:
we are not those at the edge of the univers

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M8, wormholes.

My dream game is for someone to mashup Kerbal Space Program with Space Engine and add FTL capabilities to the end of the tech tree.

I'd never leave my room again.

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negative energy isn't real so wormholes never ever.

You can also ctrl+F11 with it highlighted to screenshot with the planet info if you lose your catalog but keep screens backed up.

git gud

wut?

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Give me some great planet locations.

en.spaceengine.org/load/additional/solar_system_hd/3-1-0-33

neet

worm holes are mathematically possible, ie general relativity allows them but it requires the concept of negative energy or really negative energy density. which has never be observers. negative energy also means things like warp drive probably wont be possible.

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What about entangled pairs, the collapse between superstates occurs quicker than the speed of light, could that, like, be used as a form of truly instantaneous communication?

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you can downloade one planet at a time.

if you do this every day for all planets in this emulation you would be done in a few years

but i tseems the yonly have for oure solar system HD images.

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I've also got a third world hard drive

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earth is 4,2GB small

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I remember in earlier versions of the game, you could go far enough where nothing would be generated and you'd fly around in an endless black void.

uh all those HD textures. This gives me a boner..

still able to do it

But how many quintillion of planets does it have?

holy shit, this is earth in hd? holy shit.

as far as i know, it must have 40k+ more than no man's buy.

All of them.

18 quint and they are exactly all the same :^)

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Good luck getting that bullshit working.

No it can't be used that way. Quantum entanglement does not allow any influence or information to travel faster than light. Without warp technology FTL communication will never exist, and even then things will be complex due to the possibility of actual time paradoxes being created by it. We would basically have to set up a "temporal prime directive" of sorts to keep ourselves from fucking up the timeline.

my PC can't handle it

No thanks, fellow anonymous Holla Forums poster.

Found the newfag.

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Can't wait for the DL to finish!

Where the fuck goes th eshaders ??

done, doesnt work

The galaxies near to the edge of the observable universe have not typically existed for any longer than the ones near to us. We are seeing them as they were ~13 billion years ago, but that doesn't mean that they were created first. It just means that it took that long for the light to reach us. After the Big Bang and inflation occurred, stars and galaxies precipitated out at the same time everywhere. Obviously some have been formed later, but those are also uniformly distributed. In fact, we don't even really know if there is an "edge" to the universe. Just like a circle is a line with no ends, it's possible the universe is a closed surface in higher dimensional space and hence has no 3D boundaries.

how do they take those pictures?

telescopes in orbit looking at one spot for an extended amount of time

9.8.0 is great.

Semi-related: Why are black holes in Space Engine so unsettling? I just quick-traveled to one and it took a bit for the application to catch on. Its appearance really made me flinch for some reason.

We just need some more planets to land on. Kerbal a shit.

I wish someone on Holla Forums would stream the game since I can't play the game.

Will it become true?
Most likely not.

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They are invisible
They eat stars
They grow
They can't be destroyed
Why wouldn't they be unsettling?

could a black hole eat my game if i would feet him enough stars?

It's even more unsettling once you hop to some nearby galaxies. If you stick close enough, you can find the Milky Way if you pay attention. But finding the correct galaxy means basically nothing if your intent is to find a star among it.

i don't get mountains to work!

how do you do this?

It's some quality or details setting. Can't remember off the top of my head.

Space Engine made me realize two things:
1. We will never fucking travel through space as in movies. Even if we did the impossible and exceeded the speed of light, we still wouldn't get anywhere. Space is just that inconceivably huge.
2. Our solar system is boring as fuck.
For those of you who have 9.8.0: RS 8474-1384-2-53-23 A7

I came for the screenshots, not depressing realizations on an existential scale ffs.

already tried everything, settings, cfg and a few shaders. Nothign is working.

I think it's:
Goes up to 2, but I seem to have it on 1.

Settings/Graphics/Landscape LOD is the setting.
Keep in mind that not every planet has those features everywhere. The loading times also greatly vary.

The LOD +2 is only for 16GB RAM, i read already a lot about this. Actually it just gives more detail on the landscape but what i mean is this
en.spaceengine.org/forum/17-3291-3

shader mods, but as it tunrs out not all shaders are working with 0.980

i know where to paste them
but it doesn't work, even those who got updatet to 0.980

I did something similar recently for my game.

His texture wouldn't wrap correctly, you need to make a 3D planet cubemap like pic related, then make a sphere and set its UVs to work with it (I.E. take a cube, UV it, subdivide it)

We just generated the planet in our engine though using some of our skybox tools.

I remember spending much time in Spess Engine a long while back.

My favourite system I've ever found was this binary planetary system orbiting around a star. The barycenter was well out of either planet, with one habitable, perfect planet with simple life at 1.2 Earth masses and about the same Earth radii. Its satellite was a 0.7 Earth mass/0.8 Earth radius habitable planet with water. Pretty rings too. There was also a habitable planet with water, 0.5 Earth masses, elsewhere in that star system.

The system was well outside the Milky Way with a perfect top-down view of it and the Magellanic Clouds. I think it was more than 150,000 light years away from the galactic center.

The life that formed on this planet will eventually evolve and become sentient. They will find two perfectly habitable planets to explore and colonize with 2000s-era tech, and another to push on and strive for, with the majesty of an entire galaxy to explore.

They are the civilization that will inherit the galaxy. Not us.

Actually, mathematically speaking, space folding is doable.

Aka shortening the distance which we have to travel by bending space so that we can hop through a wormhole.

quora.com/How-can-we-fold-space-time

if you wanna make something great then add some actual (flat) planets you marblequeers.

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Don't forget sim city.

just imagine if Eve online was transplanted onto the space engine with Kerbal,and sim city.

At the moment, we know of several different ways of FTL travel that are theoretically possible given our knowledge and understanding of physics.

Their practicality is basically nil though. Even the most practical options involve using energy inputs on the scale of entire stars, or just diving into a black hole and hoping for the best.

As far as we know, FTL travel is possible but about as practical as the average kickstarter scam like muh solar roadways or muh magical water bottle.

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once again though, we have to figure out how to make negative energy and how to wrap the portions of spacetime in such a way as to be able to connect them, we're talking about superimposing 5 dimensions onto 4 if we consider time to be another dimension.

We spent 22 trillion dollars on niggers through the war on poverty.

Just imagine.

I understand that. I'm just saying…give it a few thousand years, who knows what power sources we'll come up with. Especially under God Emperor Trumps leadership.

Nigger unless we find ways to magically get power by collapsing other universes, the energy requirements for FTL travel is, in the best case, the entire energy output of many sizeable and vigorous stars.

are there any lifeforms?

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flat earthers are Dis-info to make conspiracy theorist look crazy

why is not mars or the moon colonized yet?

not necessarily, stars are rather inefficient compared to methods like particle-antipartle annihilation. A complete conversion of mass to energy, we figure out how to run a self-sustaining annihilation reactor and we'd be pretty dope with just one shitty red dwarf's worth of matter.

All depends on how efficiently we could store energy and actually harvest energy. Mankind has done shit no one thought was possible 200 years ago. Who knows, why throw away all hope is all I'm saying.

Flat Earthers were never a real thing, it was just a thought experiment, they didn't actually believe the Earth was flat.

You say that like there still aren't vast amounts of shit we don't know or understand yet. Open your mind a little.

I know one in RL. They exist. He genuinely believes the Earth is flat.

Whatever you say roundsy

The projects can't be reasonably completed within 8 years and they aren't profitable within a current lifetime. It's not at all politically viable and there's no economic incentive, so it doesn't get done.

user this isn't a "hurr durr this is 1901 we'll never have airplanes herpaderp" situation. Unless the Standard Model is way, way, way more incorrect than we think, most of this shit is physically impossible. And we've been trying our damnedest to break the Standard Model for the past few decades and it just doesn't break. You can talk about keeping an open mind, but having an open mind doesn't mean you just blindfacedly accept whatever shit falls into it.

I guess he didn't get the memo.

OH SHIT

>tfw you're such a nerd you actually know that JSBSim is a FDM.
Fuck me, I need to get laid.

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Sorry anons, but space doesn't exist. It's fantasy.

We live on a flat, stationary, immovable, geocentric earth covered by the firmament as described in the Bible.

Thread hidden because I don't like fantasy games.

I wish we still had monarchies in the west, space projects would be much more viable under them. I mean just think of the possible prestige and so forth it could bring a sovereign.

Nice meme

I like your thinking user. Lets get this party started.

It would be done in the name of discovery, technological advancement and most importantly, spreading of one true Faith through the universe.

And it would be awesome. Alas, kikes pushed US into WWI and now we have no monarchies.

is sean sliding the thread with flat earthers?

Is this the anti-evolution user?

Wait until he pulls out the copypastas.

Useful idiot. The flat earth and reptilian bullshit is meant to be used to discredit people who believe in real conspiracies.

1. Evolutionist makes an article titled: "Misconceptions About Evolution", trying to appear smart and pretend evolution is a fact.
talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-misconceptions.html

2. Creationist makes a lenghty rebuttal, proving the evolutionist wrong.
trueorigin.org/isakrbtl.php

3. Another evolutionist comes, tries to make the readers believe the creationist responses were dumb, gets BTFO instead and makes a complete fool out of himself.
trueorigin.org/ca_tw_02.php

Websites like these remind me that atheists are the illogical and unreasonable ones.
I see creationists caring about arguments and substance.
I see evolutionists acting dishonest, utilizing a multitude of logical fallacies.
This was back in the late '90s, and I see things haven't changed.

Evolution is a religion. Yes, evolution is the faith of atheism because it replaces God with man. When you've conned yourself into believing that some kind of ancient slime morphed into progressively complex and directional life forms, you are in the realm of faith, not science.

newgeology.us/presentation32.html

evidentcreation.com/TRM-Logerr.html

bible.ca/archeology/bible-archeology.htm

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genesispark.com/exhibits/evidence/historical/dragons/
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I don't know user, you think it's bullshit but then you see Hillary Clinton. She's obviously not human.

you know, it's weird how in airplanes or cars, when you're at a stead speed, with an incredibly minor acceleration, it feels almost like you're standing still.
but they do, it's called the Coriolis effect.
I know it's bait, but I have nothing better to do

Don't reply to him. He used to shitpost on Holla Forums, then /christian/ and he left after people stopped responding.

Nice meme

Does any other game get scale or spookyness right? Space engine always leaves me feeling weird if I play for too long

finally, got the HD pack.

IS THIS THREAD STILL ABOUT SPACE ENGINE

Yea.

Lets talk about how the developer of space engine got thousands of dollars and how he hasn't updated the game since.

The engine had updated 2 weeks ago.

bullshit, I checked last week.

WOW NEVERMIND

I've been giving this some thought actually and have come to the conclusion that if indeed traversing great distances through exploitation of negative space were made possible the main challenges to be overcome would be accurately mapping the absolute locations of intended destinations and developing efficient means of travelling through traditional space so that synching orbital velocities won't take decades.

Stars in our neighborhood of the galaxy generally orbit the galactic core at velocities that aren't too dissimilar from our own sun but let's say we want to explore the other end of the galaxy, unless we're able to approach near-c velocities within reasonable time frames it will still be plain impossible to reach beyond our quadrant of the Milky Way. After all, what's the point of zipping across unfathomable reaches of space in an instant if it's not possible for you to insert into an orbit around a body you wish to investigate?

wew, the HD pack doesn't work too!

so, shaders and HD textures are not working for 0.980? great.

A little annoying how a majority of the black holes have accretion disks, aren't these supposed to be rare? I'm fairly certain they are, it's blinding. Pretty neat that you can actually enter them though, and it's done the way it supposedly is in real life too.

I went to 20+ different clusters and galaxy centers, all of them had accretion disks. Kind of ridiculous. As much as I like them, god damn, at least preserve some of them without, I can't even see the one in the center of our galaxy.

Nevermind, apparently it's off center from a ctrl-g.

it werks
i am such an idiot
i had to put up my LOD level

damn, i wish i had a monster pc now but that ok too.

i found so far only one ;_;

Tbh, fuck exploring other stars and galaxies. All of it in the end looks more or less the same because we don't fucking know any of the details for those star systems. I wanna explore our own backyard. We know our own solar system, we have so much fucking data on to draw inspiration from. Look at all this cool shit that could be in a game:

You what? Only one? You sure you're on 0.980? I've yet to find one that doesn't have an accretion disk. I'm sure it'll be fixed in the future.

What about gravitational slingshots around black holes?

Maybe it requires three or four jumps to a blackhole to alter the trajectory 180 degrees without getting to close, or maybe not (I haven't run the math).

Either way, it should be feasible. Just find a blackhole traveling in the direction you want and set yourself up for an intercept via a jump…

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fresh OC

I'm gonna go ahead and say that No man's sky is shit, but fuck dude Space Engine doesn't even have the illusion of being a game?

What's the point of havng this amazing engine and all these really good looking planets if there's no game in there?

Can someone explain this to me? People that play Space Engine and shit on Nu male's sky is kinda like the pot calling the kettle black

There's no way I can run this on my dualcore with 4gb of RAM, right?

You do realize black holes emit an awful lot of microwave, x-ray and gamma radiation, yes? You're not getting these zany ideas from interstellar are you?

you have a point.
I see it like this, nuh male sky is trying to hard and force a gameplay in it that isn't one. The dev even forced the muh-nice graphics with too much of everything just look all the noic gismos flying around But in th eend it is just copy/paste shit without any to discover.

and thats where the bull has the balls.

What you can do in spaceengine is exactly this, explore and discover star systems and planets. They all have data/wiki entrys and it is not just a skybox or an interactive screensaver.

And yeah, let's be honest her, NMS isn't a game too and yet it trys to act as one. All these hppsterdev walking sims ar enothing more then a souless BETA of nothing.

And that's the difference between NMS and SE.
SE is 'not' a souless money grabing product for sheeples.

Yeah only suppose to be there when the hole is absorbing a lot of matter. Other than that it's a black dot

Galactic centres if they do have an disk, they should be a quasar too. Since o small amount of matter would make a disk appear on those bad boys.

Shit like this is why NASA absolutely hates some Sci-Fi movies even if they were okay. Every time I read about movies NASA recommends and doesn't recommend dumb theory movies like The Core are always in the "Don't believe this shit" section.

There's a difference between something that calls itself a game and something that doesn't. If neither are games, then the former is just lying about what it is.

That and Space Engine isn't $60. It's $0.

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what are some nice after effects for music that it sounds like i would be in space?
Something radio distorted? Hall effect?

i want to listen to cowboy bebop with a fully immersive experience!

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Well you see NMS is pretending to be something it isn't (a game) while instead being nothing more than a sandbox for you to explore procedurally generated star systems in (does NMS even do orbits???).

Space Engine is the same fucking thing only without the nonsense grind of having to gather resources to visit the next system.

I got you covered fam

that was in my mind too , so, radio distortion than?

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is this r-real?

en.spaceengine.org/forum/10-2707-1

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EVE has its own host of issues that make it a bad idea. Here's my take.

You start off on a planet with a moderate population inside of a colony. You do citybuilding, really basic shit, but you have to incorporate resource and production chains and whatnot in order to expand - build a smaller village a distance from the main city to bring in a specific mineral, for example, and arrange transport for it. Ideally, you'd want to abstract a fair bit to decrease processing power needed lategame. Once you get far enough, you can build a space program.

From then on out, it plays like KSP - except that instead of money, you're limited by the number of resources you can bring in with your city. You can fuel your labs by doing science KSP-style, and perform long-term research for new ship parts. These are also dependent on the types of materials you have access to - missing important minerals will limit you.

But, and here's the kicker, there's an actual point to exploration, as opposed to KSP's sandbox nature. When you land enough ships with live people on them, with the right kinds of modules (mining, production, etc) on a planet, you can then found a colony. And you get another citybuilding exercise. It'll start tiny and you'll have to work on shipping resources and people to support the new colony until it's fully self-sufficient. For the purposes of abstraction, you can take a ship and essentially create a macro system where you'll define an exact route of flight and the AI will copy it, abstracting things away and adding some dice rolls, so you're not manually hauling over 50 ships worth of unobtanium.

We'll have to break away from realism here for a little bit, but other planets will have other ores and science to discover. These will allow for your top-tier techs. Things like FTL flight and hyper-efficient engines. Then you're building supermassive colony ships on low-gravity planets or orbital ship facilities, sending them off to other star systems, and constantly, continually spreading.

around 10^24 planets
or 5555.56~ x No Man's Buy s size.

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YOU WILL NEVER FINDE THESE PLANETS HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

What kind of bizarre space phenomena can I find in this game? Can I see comets flying in space? black holes? actual stars you can navigate to and die horrible before even coming close? twin, dwarf, blue and neutron stars? gas planets? quasars?

Yes.
Yes.
You can't actually die but you can watch the temperature of each planet go up to crazy levels as you get closer to wolf-rayet stars.
Yes.
Yes.
I think so?

youtu.be/SzSkCCs34MU

And I'm sold, thanks

I found out about if for the first time one year ago pnly because I was browsing astronomy forums. Dont hate me.

i'm 20 lamo you turbocuck, muh okdfag circlejerk

I want to go to Titan and have a playground tier Dragon Ball fight with a couple other retards.

The problem with high velocity travel is mass. The quicker you're going, the more mass the object your in is going to have. There's nothing physical that'll ever survive going light speed. It'll just turn into a bunch of atoms.

Also good morning.

time dilation could be useful in this situation. If we could some how harness the vast amounts of energy need to travel at close to the speed of light then we could easily travel around the galaxy in less than a human life time. At least from your point of view. when you got back to earth hundreds of thousands of years would have passed. that could be ether a good or a bad thing depending on your interests. in that time earth would be some hyper advanced hive world or humanity would have died and given rise to new alien forms of life.

I dont know if im just tired or some of you actualy think entering a black hole is possible. A black hole doesnt just fuck with things around (by pulling them in, breaking them down, etc). It also distorts time to a point that to you, you would die of old age before you even got to the half way point to the actualy black hole, even then you would starve or your ship would break. The further you get in the slower time passes, some spectulate that when right next to a black hole time pretty much stops when compared to something outside of the field.

On top of that even if you do magicaly make it to the black hole you will instantly die, think of it like a child adding play dough to a bigger ball, you will be squished up, broken down and just added to the black hole without you even realizing it.

Also, friendly reminder that we as a species will most likely die out before we even see any of this up close or even achieve space travel of any great value other than our current "blast from planet and drift to destination" tactic.

There are galaxies out there colliding in massive explosions and spectacles that we will never see.

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there is one thing that can survive, information! You could send a pack of data/information.

its not even a golf sim, get out of here with your gray hair

That's an interesting concept…I guess we can send data through optical fiber at the moment…perhaps something similar without physical components in the future?

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Sleep snug, smug

Just get an SSD.

just say that you want spore but what we were promised.

i found a TERRA Planet

it is gigantic!

well, yeah, information have to be stored on some device but than again, that device (HDD or what ever form of stone writen stuff) would be destroyed.

But what is with th epure data, 010101110101 and stuff like that?

What exactly are you asking? The fastest type of information is light, which always goes the same speed in a vacuum. The path of light gets bent by gravity, which is why it can't escape if it gets too close to a black hole.

Post yer space exploration music.

so, we need an even faster way than light.

something that can't get bant by other sources.

no he's talking about the information paradox concerning black holes.
In QM information should be conserved a bit like energy. however if you have two black holes of the same mass and spin then those two black holes are identical (black holes have no hair theorem). or another way of saying it is that when something falls into a black hole the only thing about that object you could observe after the fact would be its mass and spin. all other information would be destroyed.
The old resolution to this paradox was that as an object falls towards a black holes event horizon the time it would feel gets slower and slower. if you were watching a clock fall into a black hole you would see the hands ticking slower and slower until at the horizon it would be frozen. also the light would become redder and redder. because it would take this imprint and infinite amount of time to fade to invisible it would therefore still be possible to extract all the information from the now destroyed object. at least in principle. the problem arises with the introduction of hawking radiation and black holes now have a life span. black holes emit light via hawking radiation. as they do this they slowly loose mass until (eventually) they will evaporate into nothing and thus all the information contained within would be destroyed. as far as I'm aware this is still an unsolved problem in theoretical physics.

Oh boy you're in for a surprise in a couple of centuries when information is gonna be fucking everywhere at all time free for the taking thanks to quantum entanglement.

The movie was overrated but god damn the soundtrack sure wasn't

when i think about; CERN and their little black hole experiments just did that
but only if we take berestAin srsly
what all these BerestAin events have in commen is, it is a change in information, letters, movie scripts and so on

another thing is, black matter and what it does to light. Couldn't this be used to trick light and transport the information the other way around?

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What if the 'information' is hold in a body that doesn't get effected by gravity?

And this body get sent to a black hole.

the information is no longer in connection to the known dimension/time and could maybe easily travle through a black hole.

Let's use Black materia for the body.

we don't even need to travle to space, CERn can just make one to sent infos through. or receive information
and since there is no time, all the other information from other intelligent beings are still there

You think it's a loophole, but it isn't. Information doesn't travel faster than light.

ok, than how about this;

depending on - Light and information is not the same. Light is light and information is information, two different shoes. But one of them isn't faster than the other.

ok, so,
a black hole is able to deform light, what 'if' the information is hold in the center of a black hole in a body that doesn't get effectet by the blackhole itself, i don't know what maybe 'black matter'? And this packed get sent through time then!?

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Okay, if the world is flat or concave or whatever, why would someone try to convince us that it's round? What would be the point?

Also the reason that the "blue marble" image has changed over the years, and has copied assets is because it's made from different images stitched together. It's a commonly known fact. NASA doctors a bunch of photos by changing the color not for deceptive reasons, but for aesthetic reasons so people take interest in space travel. In real life a lot of the stuff you see in space is a lot less colorful.

I really don't know what sort of conversation you're looking to have on hypothetical space travel when you demonstrate such ignorance of basic physics.

Simply going fast won't kill you and even hitting 0.003% c (required to synch up with highest velocity stars known) will only have negligible effects on time dilation, oh and it'll only take twelve days of acceleration at 1g to achieve those speeds. The trouble is of course that such a feat is impossible if we're still limited to chemical propellants and no near-future technology offers the specific impulse required.

It could be worse.

To put things in perspective, it'd take 2½ days to hit synch speeds with an ordinary star across the galaxy from us (at 1g acceleration).

uh

Both are shit. Kill yourselves you casual faggots.

I wonder if an Orion style space craft could achieve these kinds of speeds. Its got quite high isp.

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Perhaps, it still wouldn't be all that terribly practical but nuclear pulse propulsion could certainly get the job done. All this is of course assuming means of traversing wormholes were developed in the first place.

Are you even trying?

Orion craft could easily maintain an average of 1G, but due to its relatively crude propulsion method it would be a shaky ride that would probably tear itself apart after a week of constant acceleration, when years' worth would be needed for any interstellar travel. This isn't really a problem because most modern theories now downsize the bombs to clumps of atoms detonated by ungodly lasers, but it still would require both tons of fuel and tons of radiator to dissipate the small sun your currently using as an engine, along with frontal shielding because going through space at 10% c means plowing through space dust at 10% c.

In other words, early expeditions to nearby star systems are going to be done by flying a skyscraper with a small sun on the back at speeds where classical physics no longer apply, while hoisting glowing radiating sails like the sailing ships of yore

Yeah dude, like fuck the oldies right? xDD fucking old farts xDDD

So their next goal with $80,000 is:

Single player space exploration game
- Gameplay based on space flight simulation, space exploration, research and building
- Realistic spaceflight physics with both hardcore fully manual controls and handy semi-automatic controls
- Various spacecraft models
- Build ships, space stations, and bases on planets
- Collecting data about celestial objects using probes and satellites

Why aren't you guys shilling the fuck outta it?

This is all in the context of negative space travel being possible and it only being necessary to match velocities with your intended destination.

Because SpaceEngine isn't a game you fucking imbecile. It's a model viewer and screenshot source material.

just came from another exploration trip.

using a mod to get more exotic planets.
en.spaceengine.org/forum/17-1979-1

actually it is just an cfg file with some randome nummbers for colore and so on.

Here we have a Terra Planet. You can see there was long time ago an ocean on this planet. It is gone now, temp. is around 90°C

The mountains are huge, you can even see them from orbit.

Why the fuck can't they add some animals, put in a spaceship, add some guns and let you kill them.

and just before i wanted to exit the game, i jumped somewhere random into the galaxy.

keep in mind, you will never ever find this planet! Maybe something similar…maybe.

It is another Terra Planet, the atmosphere is already toxic and the water turned red.

Oh. For that purpose all you would have to do is warp as close as possible to some random star in a way that its gravitational pull is the same direction as the velocity of the target star, let the stars gravity decelerate you while you zoom away, and then warp again to your desired destination when velocities are matched

Come on now, I could at least say that about something that's actually a lie, like evolution.

we may not have an archive but 4chink does OP

boards.4chan.org/v/thread/348247318#p348247318
boards.4chan.org/v/thread/348202515#p348202515
boards.4chan.org/v/thread/348202515#p348202515

user, this thread is slow and already two days old. calm down!

You should post the names of these interesting planets so Holla Forums could experience SpaceEngine multiplayer, No Man's Sky style. Meaning you don't see other players, you can't interact with them in any way and you're not necessarily even in the same point in time. :^)

yup i'm probably overeacting , i bet it's just (((pure coincidence)))

user, take off your tinfoil. Not everyone is a shill!

halfchan has an daily SE thread going and just because people enjoy it and post abou tit doesn't mean it is shilling.

go back to your 18 quintrillion planets, sean.

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only (you) mentioned One Man's Blunder in here shill-kun

Do you at least enjoy being their bitch ?

So we just use such enormous gravity generators that we created a mini black hole? Or are us suggesting we travel through sub-space?
We WH40k now

RS 0-0-0-839-25291-6-112348-1127 3

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_in_special_relativity

This is what I was speaking about.

To quote "Relativistic mass. In special relativity, an object that has nonzero rest mass cannot travel at the speed of light. As the object approaches the speed of light, the object's energy and momentum increase without bound."

So yeah. Crushed to fuck way before you hit light speed.

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Lets hope the Ether theory proves real.

ok, just looked what this is.

do you have more to this, user?

This is probably where the jews are from. There is an abundance of non-jew blood.

Only that it has been around for fucking ever.

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The planets orbiting Betelgeuse are goddamn insane

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Also, here's a scorched desert orbiting a blue star., with no less than 3 fucking layers of clouds

nature.com/nature/journal/v322/n6080/pdf/322590b0.pdf

Seems like bullshit tbh. Had a little look into it.

Everything being connected, I thought, was quite an accepted concept in modern physics.

Spacetime is everything. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_foam

It basically encompasses us all, even the space between an atoms electrons. Nothing is empty, empty space doesn't exist. So yes, we are all connected.

On a side note Star Citizen is suppose to be showing their procedurally generated planets in a few days at gamescom.

it'll be shit.

will the planets have anything on them?

As far as know it's procedurally generated planets, then they will hand make points of interest like a landing zone or something.

Oh and I think they want trees, animals, weather and maybe cities too, but idk if I am remembering correctly.

can you mine them? can you attack the stations in the fps module? can you control one planet and demand protection money?

It's already out and it's gratis, for starters. It also runs pretty well and supports mods.

While it's true that with quantum entanglement we can have two pieces of data synchronized, that data would be completely random due to Heisenberg's uncertainty principle.

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tried this too but i guess the dev couldn't the actually Universe/Galaxy simulate. How much power does a pc need to simulate an expanding universe?

this is your brain on /vpol/

I could say yes, because they probably have that planned, but whether or not they actually have any of that in the works at the moment idk tbh. Although I'm not sure about the protecition money thing. I think they wanted it so you could control points, like a station or factory, I suppose you could threaten the owners of points on a planet for protection money, or control all the planets points yourself and rent them out, but this is just speculation tbh, who knows what the final game will look like, with the way they are releasing the game I'm not sure they have a "final game" point in mind, just continually adding more features and things.

There’s a history of the locations you’ve visited, genius.

16 gigs of vRAM or 16 gigs of system RAM?

>THAT MUST MEAN THE ENTIRE CONCEPT ISN’T DISINFORMATION, BUT A LEGITIMATE CONSPIRACY THEORY THAT WAS CREATED BY PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY BELIEVE IT
You are mentally ill

Learn literally anything about black holes.

welp, Vram, you heard it right. videocradRAM!

normaly it is at -2 or 0 using around 512mb up to 1GB, the amount doubles when you go up to +1. Still you can use +1 for making screenshots but not to fly around, it will sooner or later crash. Going up from there you will endn up with around 8 to 16GB if you want to use it to fly around.

how would it recreate rality that hasn't been discovered?

WHAT THE FUCK IS ALIVE ON THIS PLANET

flying jews

Does anyone know how to play this in wine using the mesa radeonsi driver? I heard it works with the closed source drivers but mesa doesn't seem to know what to make of the glsl shaders.

I like my software freedom but I'm getting real bad SpaceEngine withdrawals.

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i hope they are still there in 0.980
dumping planet cords:

Terra/terra-moon:
RS 8403-169-8-16093784-784 3.1

earth like terra:
RS 8409-1796-7-32-670 A4

big green terra:
RS 0-5-17221-548-18301-6-146799-4 3.1

trips terra:
RS 8403-326-8-4874380-72 4

more terra:
RS 8404-1353-8-10944047-105 A3

Black hole terra:
RSC 8549-0-0-0-8552 6

brown dwarf anomalie
RS 8476-1353-8-10944056-660 2

14 stars and one black hole:
RSC 8409-5656-0-0-0

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kek

I do find it interesting that the handful of retards who spammed shit and attempted to blame it on various other boards on /k/, Holla Forums, /a/, /n/, /n+/, Holla Forums, Holla Forums and /monster/ with the intent of starting interboard shitfights found no traction there, yet on Holla Forums they just have to pretend to be Holla Forums and they get you all riled up.

dont know whether its Holla Forums, freech or fucking what at this point, but what you have to realise is that shit like is blatant bullshit

he admitted to browsing 4/v/ does that sound like Holla Forums to you?

majority of v is little kids plus its summer.

Jews are like humans, which need oxygen to survive. I doubt a jew would be able to live in such a planet. I imagine that life in that gas giant are like flying whales. They use helium in their bodies to be as light weight as possible.

Jew living on this planet makes more sense because it's filled with blood. The blood is probably caused by all the wars they have started between the non-jewish populations before they were all completely wiped out. Since all the non-jews are dead, they can no longer profit from that planet and they moved on to another planet to spill the blood of their next victims to profit from more wars.

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I merely used the 4chan archives as a reference because Holla Forums has no archives of it's own and i noticed that since the NMS blunder happened there was an increase in threads shilling this shit in both places ; but please , by all means , continue to ignore everything and stick that head further up your ass ; just like NMS i'm just here for the salt and to give you the 'told you so speech' when this thing inevitably goes belly up

Bullshit.

Then why do they look like humans?

>is shit everyone who wasnt onna hype train knew this

This is a chain of events that every nigger in the world could understand, so you know what i no longer think you are one of the retards trying to divide the boards, i think you preordered no mans sky or you made it

ships model damn awesome, going to mod a ton of ships in the game now!

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I wish the mods would do something about the spamming goons, or at the very least that the real anons would stop responding to them. It's pretty obvious who they are with their "sage is a doenvote" and flatearther schtick.

Space Engine is something that can theoretically be used as a frame work for a space game, or at least can be used immediately as a substitute for Noctis. Unless you don't think Noctis style is a game in which case >>>/ovens/

It is also free.

Speaking of Noctis, looks like that guy is trying to emulate the INBOX function of that game through the Forum.

Don't care. You can already see a blue star barren Terra around Eta Carinae.

Now. Can you find the Terra that orbits around a black hole that I found that also has an ESI north of 95%? It's within 1500 LY of Earth.

Git gud.

Sounds just like the average user's library already to be honest.

Fun fact, that star's on it's last legs. Enjoy it while it lasts!

wait. Stars/planets can die while i play SE?

Oh, no. Stellar exhaustion isn't in SE yet (although I'm sure something will be tossed in for it some day). I was just talking about Betelgeuse IRL.

My guess is that won't be for a while, probably the next version will probably focus on relativistic jets and actual primitive life modeling so that not every Terra you visit has a CO2 atmosphere.