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What is wrong with Holla Forums?

Are you guys more open to discus this?

Basically,
"Communism and facism will never reappear in our lifetime"
So why spend time advocating it?

(And I'm a centrist/liberal aka. what lefties called me)

Enjoy your ban here too. Reported.

You're a fence sitter that doesn't believe in objectivity.

Why call Fascism old when democracies and republics are much older

We don't have time for bullshit like this, there have been thousands of others before you who made pointless threads like these stating that they wanted to be spoonfed on something they did not understand. If you want to understand then lurk the fuck more, that is all.

Not calling it old, just saying that a new national socialist government forming in the west is highly unlikely.
And trying to form it will have the opposite effect.


I meant to say I'm NOT* a centrist/liberal

I'm fairly right wing


Just asking questions m8

But communism is still here (Cuba and North Korea), and fascism is emerging in Eastern Europe.

Pretty dumb idea.

Nope.

Take your drama with Holla Forums to the >>/oven/. Reported.

Forgot to sage last time


National Socialism that was implemented in Germany can only work in Germany other countries will have different forms of Fascist states. While a form of Fascism that's like National Socialism might work in the USA it won't be 100% equal to what NSDAP did. Lurk more that's all I'm feeding you.

I'm not new. I've tried to understand natsoc, but they seem very delusional and paranoid. Most of them.
I just have no hope for their movement. Maybe in a 100 years.


I'm thinking more the west tho. What some 3rd worlders choose to fondle around with, I don't care about…

And eastern europe is just turbo-christianity. They disliking muslims does not mean they're becoming a fascist state.


You need to lurk a bit more outside this place.

well just saying it's current year and we've "progressed" beyond a point where certain political forms are impossible is just not the case.
Greece invented democracy thousands of years ago. For most of that time it was not democratic. Rome was a republic, then became an Empire, then after the barbarians invaded it was a kingdom.
Now, communism failed on its own, it's economy just collapsed. Fascism/National Socialism was destroyed in war. Whether it could survive long term on it's own has not been proven.

World is more stable now tho.
And modern democracy is built around not letting things such as natsoc. reappear.

That's the thing you find strange with them?

Fuck off neoliberal scum.

OP is a cuck

Yes you are, so lurk more.

Well it certainly won't be called "National Socialism", and it won't be exactly the same, but I see no reason why an authoritarian state could not be formed in the west. You must realize that the "democracy" we have now is basically just an oligarchy, with media bosses, corporations, and bankers being the ones who control policy. The fact of the matter is that authoritarian control is what humans naturally strive towards, people do not like having a choice, even if they fellate themselves over how "free" they are in order to conform to social pressure, which is another form of control.

also sage for shit OP

You got a few hours?


I think so, but both ideologies DO currently exist in other countries, so I'm not sure what you're asking. Do you mean in the West? Because the jews are pushing hard for communism here, and we're pushing back to stop it from happening.

You are wrong. Communism and Facism are already appearing, and one will crush the other.

lol no u


Perhaps in armed conflict but economically is a different story.

Yes you are.
No you haven't.
You have a keyboard you idiot. Use it.

You are obviously ignorant, skimming what limited knowledge you have from mainstream media sources. There is a very strong openly national socialist movement in eastern europe, moreso than Europe or America. Use google and try to research something for one in your life.

Are you stupid? Because you type like it. You could say any political system is made to prevent opposing systems from becoming dominant. That doesn't mean it can't happen.

What a fucking meaningless statement. No form of government with the same structure made by different people in a different time would result in an identical government. It speaks nothing to the viability of the ideology itself in the present day.

*once

Yes. Fuck the rest.

Well, what I'm getting at is that modern natsoc. movements are a waste of time. Past history is giving it a huge up hill battle.
I don't see how it can return, so I'm asking to see of this is something that is actually being considered by people.
Or if it's just jerking over past glory, hoping it will just return someday…


Lurking has no benefits, asking people straight up does.
At least for me it doesn't.

Kinda hoping you die right now, OP.

We don't want you get a clue retard.

Every revolution has been an uphill battle.

Can you please provide a fucking argument besides "hurr durr it's huurrd"?

If you're asking if we think that marching with Swastikas and Sieg Heiling would work? Probably not, but an authoritarian takeover has and always will be a strong possibility.

Because you're an Idiot

Anyone whos not a newfaggot understands the socioeconomical situation back then and can easily see how it could happen again.
All fiat currencies will fail, every and each one has and, when that happens you too will understand.

At the very least read the party literature before you start lying out of your ass that you're not new.

It appears our simple minded OP has abandoned the thread

Well I'd say the Antifa I've putsch around are fairly Commie and wouldn't have a problem in reenacting Stalin's regime. I'd consider myself National Socialist to their Communistic and while the fight is only limited to hitting and yelling once the International Capitalist Regime falls because of Jewish divestment then you will see some real shit.

You might even get monarchy from Libertarians, I don't see why you don't think any of this will come to pass.

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How is the first post literally always a shill good God

What about the countless preventions that has been implemented after WW2?

It's not stupid to say natsoc. is dead. It's the most logical conclusion.

Not in our lifetime, unless we get some form of massive trigger. But I don't know what can trigger a new, natsoc. movement of magnitude. People who live in the west now, are not like those who lived in the 30s.
Maybe an entire generation living under poor conditions can trigger it…


That's good tho. That means you think I'm stupid and I can be easily proven wrong and you can feel good about yourself for proving that you're intellectually superior.

What's your evidence for this? Even if it doesn't appear on the mass scale that it did in the 40's during our lifetimes we will still struggle and advocate for a society in which some form of ethnonationalist national socialist state can exist, and so the current problems plaguing our nations can be mititavistockd if not outright solved.

Also National Socialism calls for all of its followers to have almost religious fanaticism and faith in the ideology and the hope that our heaven on earth can be achieved.