So while I was looking through the election results and found like three or four different socialist parties. Is there any ideological difference between them? If not, why don't they just form a single party?
So while I was looking through the election results and found like three or four different socialist parties...
Lucas Campbell
James Young
Sectarianism is for snowflakes
if the cadres of those parties were younger they'll be on tumblr with amillion pronouns
Connor Gray
While all anarchists are socialists, not all socialists are anarchists. Also, disagreements on whether the state are a means or a goal to full communism. Reformists have it backwards, as they believe in changing the system from within. Infoshop had a meme on this topic that got banned on Faceberg.
Connor Morris
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Henry Taylor
What meme and why did it get banned?
Michael Mitchell
The only parties I'm aware of that ran Presidential candidates were
Socialist Party USA, which is a "multi-tendency" radical socialist party which is opposed to vanguardism, putting in opposition to the other three parties
Socialist Equality Party, which is Trotskyist
Workers World Party, which is Marxist-Leninist and Proletarian Internationalist
Party for Socialism and Liberation, a party tha is also Marxist-Leninist and Proletarian Internationalist, because it split from the WWP due to a squabble over leadership. The PSL is essentially the Gloria La Riva Party.
Easton Johnson
Where is the reply button.
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Caleb Turner
I hate sectarianism, so I'm trying to find a way to make anarcho-Lacanian-Leninist-Marxian-Stirnerism work so I can get along with everyone.
Josiah Bell
SEP is the only actual Marxist party on the list. The others are just different flavors of liberal and tankie.
Brody Green
That's what many are trying inside the Greens anyway.
Jaxson Murphy
Greens are just liberals.
Josiah Myers
Not anymore.
Chase Sullivan
And many would have taken issue with that label even in the '80s and '90s.
Adrian King
That's just re-branding to appeal to the Bernie crowd and the politically confused. In Europe there are tons of parties claiming to be "socialist" or "anti-capitalist", but they haven't done shit and when they do gain power they've just sold out. The reformists have stabbed workers in the back every chance they've gotten and you'd have to be completely ignorant of history to think otherwise. Greens are liberals and no amount of lip service will change that.
Doesn't change the fact they're liberals.
Cameron Robinson
And here we can see why they don't just form a single party.
Matthew Russell
They just passed an explicitly anti-capitalist amendment to their platform.
Jeremiah Williams
Let me repeat myself
Matthew Evans
Holy shit that documentary was awful when it came to Marx(ists).
I mean, it was kind of shit in general. It's pretty telling about the entire perspective of the documentary that it ends with the fall of the Spanish Republic, it was the worst case of wanking of to the dusty bones of past glory I've seen in a long time.
Jace Murphy
This is fucking stupid
we should make another party to unite all socialist parties tho
Jackson Ward
Holla Forums november 9th 2020:
"So while I was looking through the election results and found like four or five different socialist parties. Is there any ideological difference between them? If not, why don't they just form a single party?"
Ethan Morgan
I imagine the revolution will be spearheaded by a coalition rather than a single party.
Christopher King
You're wrong.
Luke Flores
Proof? You want me to list off all the times reformists have betrayed workers or enabled/supported fascism? Do I need to explain why voting is pointless? Maybe you should sit down and study the history of the left and how it got to where it is today before you throw your support behind a bunch of opportunist liberals that will capitulate to capitalist demands the second they get a taste of power.
Leo Thomas
The anti-capitalist amendment was written by genuine socialists and passed with unanimous support at a summer convention that was also teeming with genuine socialists and even communists. I'm a socialist. I'm a Green now. I'll do my best as I know many others will to steer them in the right direction. It must be so convenient to sit on your hands doing fucking nothing when you resign yourself to the inevitability of history.
Austin Morris
Just like all the genuine socialists and communists involved in and supporting the SPD or SYRIZA or Podemos or Labour or..? I wonder how that worked out.. :^)
Registering for the Green party and voting for their shitty candidates every once in a while isn't doing shit. If anything it's worse than doing nothing because your giving legitimacy to an illegitimate system. If you fucking cared about doing anything you'd be busy organizing on the grassroots level with some half-decent organizations, but you've never read an ounce of theory, studied ANY of the left's history, or spent a single day working toward any meaningful change. Useful idiots like you are what allowed fascism to take root and you will once again aid the capitalists in redirecting the anger of the working class. kys fam
Elijah Torres
Doing a lot more than that fam. I'm building an eco-socialist party, finding candidates to run, and engaging in activism for very things as many Greens do.
Christopher Diaz
And I am btw. Believe it or not it's possible to do both at once.
Jacob Young
99% of the time you'll be party building. Hope you realize the mistake of reformism faster than I did. Particularly so for a party as shitty as the Greens. Would like to see your local party leader's reaction if you brought this up.
socialistwebzine.blogspot.com
Should read this as well for a little insight into the mistake you're making.
thecharnelhouse.org
I certainly hope so. Maybe you'll be able to offset the damage you're doing by aiding the enemy.
Parker Miller
About to watch the series.
Can you point out the flaws just for reference.