Can I just take a moment to condemn Bill Maher

so you can't vote for someone if you dislike their policies but prefer them to someone else's?

Bill Maher is literally calling Trump's movement a "slow-moving, right-wing coup."

Campaign promises don't mean shit. Liberals really must have the memories of goldfish after Obama ran on change and just ramped up Bush's worst policies.

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That's levels of myopia that shouldn't be possible.

Is Andrew Kliman a liberal?

Is Andrew Kliman infallible?

Anyone have some perspective on this?

Is Bill Maher right?

No, he isn't. But I asking if he was a liberal for voting for Hillary. I'm voting for Hillary because I don't want to shift the Overton window to Trumps supporters. If Trump wins the GOP could start electing actual fascist in order to keep the party alive while the Democrats will most likely go back to being the blue dog "we're the opposition guys!" party that got us into this mess.

Keep voting for corporate neoliberalist Democrats and that's exactly what the fuck you're doing idiot.

You can't build an opposition to the Democrats when they're still "the underdog". Plus, Hillary was a B████ Socdem during Clinton's first term. It's not like B████ was great either, he's just as much on an imperialist as Hillary. But whatever, keep spewing your pretentious "muh purity" rhetoric. Faggots like you is why the left couldn't build a proper opposition to the Nazi's.

Bill Maher knows that the Podesta emails are legitimate. He knows it for a fact. He believes it.

When he goes on his show and says they are fake, he is lying. He is lying because he believes that it not just permissible, but correct and necessary to boldly lie to his audience if he thinks it will help defeat Trump.

Just something worth noting.

mein wew, and so on

There's absolutely no way you can believe this. Try to be more subtle next time.

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Bernie voted for the 1988 Iraq Liberation Act (and this is what allowed Clinton to initiate the largest bombing campaign since the Vietnam war on Iraq where it was bombed an average of once every 3 days), and then voted to reaffirm it that same year - supported action in both Libya and Serbia and voted to expand the military budget several times including under Bush. I guarantee you if a Democrat had been in power B████ would've voted for the Iraq war. Regardless if his domestic policy is superior to Hillary's, his isolationist rhetoric is just that - rhetoric. I appreciate B████ ██████ but you shouldn't delude yourself.

*1998. And kek, it didn't censor B████ the first time I typed it.

Bernie isn't a Democrat and had no allegiance to the Democratic party. There's no reason to think this other than being confusing him with Democrats who acted differently. S█████ called for an end to sanctions and supported the liberation act as an unsuccessful means to avoid the first gulf war. Nobody anticipated that it would later be used to invade Iraq again and how far it would be expanded from there.

Here is a video of him opposing the first Gulf War.

youtube.com/watch?v=GSi0cz_Xvvw

You stated he's as bad a Hillary "Haitians are paid too much" Clinton, which is clearly bullshit. Sandlers could have gone to Irag personally, and he'd still be not even comparable.

All of your points are backed by theoretical predictions on how events could have or might eventually play out. The fact of the matter is that electing Trump or Hillary is ultimately only defensible as a "lesser evil" by fearmongering that the other one would have resulted in a worse future, which you can retrospectively justify no matter what happens. Your entire thought process boils down to being so scared of fascists that you're okay with capitalists. It's pitiful.

Moralism will override reason every time.

Do you mean the second gulf war?

How are fascist not another substrate of capitalist? Why is it such a crime to not want the left to become weaker when populism goes full autism if Trump wins? A lot of people are voting for Hillary reluctantly, Trumps supporters are dogmatic cultist. Anyone voting for Trump because they're "scared of Hillary" was already a right winger at heart.

Stopped reading right there, you filthy burger.

Yeah, a douchebag bog standard republican (Mike Pence) running the white house is so much worse than someone owned by bankers who will happily start WW3.

But she has expee ree ants

I couldn't picture Hillary going to war with Russia if that's what you're implying. I could however, see Trump doing some sort of military action in Iran.

Bill maher is a Zionist shill and obviously a shill for the neoliberal establishment.
All of your liberal heroes on tv are shills for the neoliberal establishment, daily show, john oliver, etc.
They would never allow an actual threat to capitalism a platform

CTRRRRRR LEAVEEEEEEEEEEEEEEREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

I don't have a twitter, but whoever has - spam this image back at his "just voted Hillary" tweet.
I'm sure they are all perfectly aware of their hypocrisy, but it's a whole different game if they're publicly pushed in front of a mirror.

No, I mean the first one, in 1990. You are talking about the 1988 Iraq Liberation Act.

We need to harness the righteous fury of leftists (and maybe conservatives too) to overthrow these fucks. Conservative ideology is closer to leftism than liberalism is - they just need to flip its alignment so that bourgies are scapegoated instead of poor people and minorities.

I corrected myself in
I meant 1998.

That's not quite the same as taking on someone with actual Nukes.

Got any links to those tweets?

The omnipotence of "having nukes" is bound to dry up sooner rather than later. No matter how you look at it, Russia is outclassed on such a level I bet Hillary and her backers would gamble on it if they liked the odds. Whether you believe in the rumors that the US has a imminently fully functioning intercept system in the works or not, the cold war is over. Russia isn't the competition it used to be. Handwaving away a war between the two like some half-baked conspiracy theory is irresponsible.

The comedians have only made propaganda for their employers, the point however is to turn that shit off.

twitter.com/MMFlint/status/795028528723005444
Most people all already calling him out.

Lots of respected public figures have completely destroyed their credibility for this election. Maybe even most of them in America.
But I'm wondering how permanent this is. Won't people forget and again start glorifying these idiots as critics of the system?

I did it in case anyone wants to RT. Probably should have waited until a more relevant time but w/e.

twitter.com/BossIgnostic/status/795919898354524160

He is also terrible at debating. I remember when Greenwald and Hitchens (minus the neo con) were on and Maher had nothing against them. He went so far as to say the US was justified throwing soldiers into korea and vietnam knowing they would lose because they had to "show the communists we were willing to fight".

Then he got an ulcer when Woopy Goldberg said that East Germany wasn't the equivalent of Nazi Germany.

That isn't even mentioning him trying to explain to B████ what socialism means, which pissed off B████. Then he goes and donates 1 million to HRC.

He is cancer incarnate.

Underrated post.

Voted Green because I don't believe in the "Voting for third party is voting for the candidate you fear the most" meme, but I understand people voting Trump because they're scared of Hillary.
Starting a no-fly zone in Syria is war with Russia; they will shoot down our planes and they have the means to do it. It might even result in a sunk aircraft carrier and, assuming Hillary doesn't just let the deaths slide, that's ww3 right there.
This is my fear as well.

yeah GWB was an "honorable man"

sorry but there are real differences between the candidates, even if they cant fulfill every promise. do you really believe things would be the exact same under romney as under obama? i hate both parties, but im not dumb enough to believe they have the exact same platform.

I thought he supported Chump

you think the bog standard GOPer *isn't* owned by bankers and *won't* happily start more wars?

Learn to read. That's not what the post said.

Maher is a living embodiment of the archetypal liberal douche.

Though I do think Trump could rally popular support because he's a reality TV mogul and knows what idiots like.