Syria General /sg/: ROAD TO DEIR EZ-ZOR EDITION

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What has you most annoyed;
- the death of the Paris Climate Soviet?
- illegals being kept and kicked the fuck out of the USA?
- the end of the Syrian civil war that will stem the invasion of Europe by niggers?

1cbf3a is a D&C shill

Kikes are getting uppity
businessinsider.com/former-israeli-security-chief-israel-may-take-out-iran-bases-in-syria-2017-7

Netanyahu got caught making comments about Syria and the EU on an open mic, also he tried to influence Hungary into being more pro-Israel as well as admitting attacking Iranian convoys in Syria
dw.com/en/israels-benjamin-netanyahu-caught-on-microphone-slamming-eu-in-budapest/a-39756485
Netanyahu also made a rare public admission that Israel has struck Iranian arms convoys in Syria bound for Hezbollah "dozens and dozens of times." He also made positive comments about the change in US administration from Barack Obama to Donald Trump.

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More Lister extreme butthurt

Useful map of all grain silos in syria, they seem to be some of the best defensive structures in the country.

Kurds need to be exterminated

The maps a bit outdated for sure but it does explain the anomaly of several (((rebel))) pockets and deir ez zor, you can't deny the historical precedent of the grain silo either in military history.

The locations were not secret for anyone with a paid or even a trial version of digital globe satellite images. We had the locations as soon as they started building them. You can't hide a convoy of ~100 US military trucks.

Trump breaking his election promises and involving himself with Syria more than Obama ever did, for one. When he pulls ALL US soldiers, down to the very last grunt, out of Syria, stops supporting Kurds, and hands over the military bases he illegally built in Syria to Assad, then and only then will there be room to talk about him redeeming himself.

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Or it could just be that grain silos correlate to areas with populated areas and the areas without grain silos are mostly empty desert or non-arable lands, pockets are typically not in barren desert areas

This

yes, quite a lot

lets get some sabaton in this thread

No. These threads are for actual news and discussion. If you're going to post music, at least post music related to Syria.

Trump cucks confirmed BTFO. Also, given how poorly Israel did the last time they faced Hezbollah, I can't imagine a few lost arms shipments are going to change their fate. It's nice that their Semitic tricks are revealed for the world to see, though.

true. i don't want to off topic. it's "the price of a mile". which SAA knows all too well.

Sabaton is degenerate Swedish filth, brah.

Now that the Lion's victory is all but assured, my second greatest wish for the region is for the Turkroaches to use the situation to do something useful for once and genocide the shit out of those communist subhumans. Maybe they'll try and portray it as "terrorist removal" and get away with it because Assad won't mind.

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It's all a matter of time. If there's one thing Iraq, Iran, Turkey and Syria can all agree upon, it's that Rojava can't be allowed to exist.

Roaches can't do shit. They were supposed to go into Afrin weeks ago, but they've gained nothing still, just some low energy shelling.

SAA footage from eastern Damascus

Even if it originated on chans it has been entirely co-opted by reddit faggots, its like using doge or "Yo dawg i heard you like" memes after 9gag and normalfags latched onto them

Nice.
Once Damascus is fully liberated by the SAA, I'll be able to rest easy. It's always bugged me that there was significant moderate throat slitter presence right next door to the seat of power.

(should upgrade to T-90MS tbh)
archive.fo/yX687

There's some nice salt from the US MIC about this. I can understand the frustration. Their kids didn't go to war for Israel but they still expected to profit from Iraq because they were supposed to only buy US equipment.

In other words, the M1A1 is a POS and it's impossible to justify the cost even if you're the Pentagon.

Didn't they lose something close to 100 M1's in Mosul alone? I seem to remember reading a report about that a couple of weeks ago. I'm shocked the Pentagon hasn't already come up with a new MBT, since the Abrams really is remarkably outdated by this point.

We're working on another M1 upgrade(A3), but there's no way it will make sense against the T-90. Turkey losing 25% of their Leo2s against the IS in little more than a month while the T-90s performed as well or better sealed the T-90s export prospects. The T-90 has: less crew requirements, less cost, less weight/size, easier maintenance. The Abrams falls short on these and if you fear coming up against NATO tanks the ATGM is a better investment; Iraq and Kuwait don't have much to fear for now. If I were Iran/Lebanon, I'd invest more heavily in ATGM than tank procurement.

To clarify, I meant as an export the M1 upgrades won't nullify the T-90's charms.

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So after the rebels and ISIS are cleared up, what is Assad going to do about the kurds?

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DEIR EZ ZOR TILL END OF SUMMER
Are we taking bets till ISIS is completely destroyed in Syria?
That maneuver from Raqquah towards Deir and encirclement of forces at Palmyra is sweet.

All the shoops originate from Holla Forums you abominable newfaggot

Turkey would have lost 25% of T-90s as well, because they are incompetent retards.

Also fuck off you nu/pol/ Trumpcuck, I used to post on /n/ when it was still about News.

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trump bailing on major FSA groups doesent mean shit.
the only prothe US got from this was trying to better relations with russia and remain relevant, aswell as concentrating on their new proxy force SDF and not having to spill sphaggeti when infighting breaks out among their proxies (FSA), aswell as trying to press on turkey who is ditching the pathetic US bandwagon in the region.

also i cant beleive /sg/ is getting infiltrated by trumpcucks. These threads wre always the most redpilled on geopolitics, and now some fags from reddit think they can just trojan horse in here

Exactly. Why pay more and put an extra man's life at risk?

Great. Looks like mods are banning people for critizing the Goy Emperor's foreign policy on /sg/ now.

Fuck off shill tbh. Do you really not believe in the 6000000D CHESS the GOD EMPEROR is playing to CREATE THE WHITE AMERICAN IMPERIVM? Please ignore the fact his own daughter is literally Jewish and he's already attacked Assad on numerous occasions, this is all just le chess!

Don't you know that the Kurds are innocent victims and ethnostates are okay, as long as they're non-white? Let's keep pouring military support into a separatist state, because that's much better than supporting ISI– Oh, wait. They commit false flags and execute innocent civilians, too? B-but Trump's infallible!

Mccain is still kvetching from his hospital bed, pic related

I knew this was going to happen when i started seeing muh Goy Emperor faggots start posting here and acting like they belong, the mods here get triggered about any narrative they cant control and always try to push blatantly obvious chesscuck narratives

Israel wants the US involved in Syria, this has NOTHING to do with the average US citizen.
BOYCOTT ISRAEL

Euphrates Shield going through turkey to support the newest Roach proxy (Ahrar al-Sham) against HTS. Since I haven't seen anybody elaborate on it yet, let me explain the cause of the current infighting in Idlib, just in case:
Essentially, you got two groups in Idlib, HTS and Ahrar al-Sham. Both seek to coup assad and install an "islamic state in accordance with Sharia law" yet get into bloody conflicts periodically. HTS is a branch of al-Qaeda and is recognised as a terror group, if memory serves, while Ahrar isn't. The recent conflict erupted over two things – one, Ahrar refused to merge with HTS (something they had tried to do several times because muh rebel unity), two, Ahrar started playing ball with Turks, as in is quickly becoming their proxy, as you can see in the pic. In recent days, there has been a number of battalion defections, with the majority leaving Ahrar and joining HTS.

Chesscucks appear whenever any bigger Syria news happen, kvetch a little about how "USA is literally only there to fight ISIS and will go back home right afterwars, for reals! Did you know that Russia is bad and Iran is a global threat?" and then fuck off again when they get called out on their cuckoldry.

Assad, are you trying to pocket some more Islamists?

The kikes are kvetching about the ceasefire for obvious reasons.. Assad winning and solidifying Syria sets their plans back a fucking ton.

But there is a not so obvious reason too. The ceasefire covers only 3 areas, the area around 2 cities on the Syrian border with Jordan and the other city is in Gaza Heights. More specifically it is the city of Quneitra, which the kikes captured in 1967, Syria regained for a short period and then was recaptured by the kikes. After they decided the city was worthless for them to hold they abandoned it but destroyed it on their way out.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quneitra

After the kikes destroyed it Syria refused to rebuild it, leaving its corpse as a landmark to the evil of the kikes.

More recently it is the town that was being used as a base for isis, likely because of its bombed out nature and its proximity to israel. And it is the place where israel bombed the syrians attempting to support isis' defense of their base.

Syria already holds that city, there is no more fighting occurring there, the ceasefire only affects Israel. Same goes for the rest of the cities under the ceasefire. All cities deeper into Syria cannot be attacked by israel without them being lit up by those pesky russian supplied AA missile systems.

I wonder why he's even wasting time pocketing that instead of making a super pocket by taking Deir and Euphrates. He has to hurry and cut off Kurds before they head to the oil fields in the east.

Suknah is strongly defended and will take time, but it makes logistical sense to link up his forces. While it gives Kurds time, I saw reports just a couple of days ago that the Kurds have lost their momentum in Raqqa and are shifting towards more of a siege mentality. Given the amount of territory they have to hold, it looks like they may well have overstretched their forces and the casualties they're going to rack up in urban warfare will only compound that problem. That, combined with piecemeal attacks by the Turkroaches is going to slow their advance considerably when the time comes.

They lost 10. Turkey has more than 40 tanks.

Sand nigger insurgents or any insurgents for that matter are extremely difficult to destroy if you allow them a large area of movement. Mainly because the only way to do so is to occupy areas until they are all destroyed or captured. I have no frame of reference for that map but judging by the layout of the roads on the map, and my experience in the middle east, Id say that when he closes that eastern gap Assad will have minimum about 2-300 square miles encircled.

Oh the map has a reference in it. Ok so the eastern gap is ~60 clicks and the length of that encircled area would be ~150 clicks so ~900 sq km thats about 550 sq miles. Shit I lowballed that by quite a lot.

Thats a huge pocket. I wonder how many shitstain jihadists about about to get surrounded. An area that large Id assume 1-3,000.

they sent 40 into syria, you fucking retard

HTS took the turkish border crossing in northern idlib.

literally kill yourself for being this stupid

going straight to deir ez zor also leaves supply lines more vulnerable in the north. tiger forces would need to dedicate more troops to guarding the flanks as they move towards deir ez zor, and be prepared to leave them there for what's likely to be a longer siege than normal. linking up at suknah makes more sense. consider that suknah will likely draw in some isis from the pocket and from deir ez zor, weakening both for later capture. once suknah is captured we should see a rapid push to deir ez zor and a shrinking isis pocket.

isis and fsa lines are only 5.5 mi apart at hama. makes me uneasy. i'm sure assad has that area well defended and surveilled but it makes me uneasy that fsa and isis could coordinate to break the line. starve the pocket and liquidate it, would free up a ton of men from central syria.

the curse of Assad is claiming another victim.
Why does McCain assume that he would be informed of any long term plans for Syria, given he's a traitorous cunt?

It's pretty simple: their 'muh kurdistan' LARPing sessions is over, it's time to go back doing whatever the kurds were doing before the war started, which is LARPing about kurdistan, in their dreams.

Damn, the insipid shilling, blackpilling, and sheer stupidity is intense in this thread, all these shills copypasting chan memes and using them against Holla Forums is just like their attempt to subvert anime only to backfire on them instead.
'The God Emperor' and '1488chess' really ticked these goons off to the point where they used the 'lets steal their animes to trigger them' formula for a round 2 for failing hard on the /int/ raid, only to fail again.

What an impotent display of low energy thread derailment.

Fuck off cuckfy.

Sounds like there is another sarin gas attack coming right around the corner.

As always, the chesscuck pretends not to read the laid out reasons for why Trump's policy on Syria is asinine, as described here (a post he did quote) and instead strawmans and tries to deflect attention elsewhere.

Nah, they've already tried that a few times over the past few weeks and there hasn't been a peep. Trump's just pouring all those resources into the SDF instead. The old rebels were incompetent and got encircled, but I'm telling you, these new rebels are going to be yuge. A shame they've been slowed down in Raqqa (which will probably take another month to seize, even with all the dozens of US airstrikes each day) and will lose hundreds, if not thousands of fighters. Oh, and their Arab allies have slowly started to desert them. The future of Rojava isn't bright, despite the (((Coalition))) backing.

If you ask me, they'll false flag an attack, most likely an airstrike, by "Government Forces" on the Kurds, and during the attack some Ami zigbots will get killed, too.

Could happen, but I think any serious intervention would require the Turks to stand down and the SAA to push through DeZ and start seizing some eastern oil fields. If the Kurds really get bogged down, the US will have run out of cards and I don't put it past Israel's pet to flip the table if/when that happens.

First oil well in the Shaer fields brought online (900b/d), second coming online next few days
alwatan.sy/archives/112030

General Issam Zahreddine is reportedly going to lead an offensive to expand the security box around Deir ez-Zor airport in preparation for a coming offensive against IS.
twitter.com/henrylec1/status/887913228591742976

Even two different colours for the map now, seems to be a civil war inside of a civil war

Holy shit top fucking kek. Can anyone corroborate this? I want to fucking believe.

BWAHAHAHA isn't the vodka nigger's military export policy to only sell stripped-down, diet-coke versions too? HAHAHHAHAHAHAHA

It's like the "debalstevo cauldron," (or whatever they called that fuckup by the Ukranians) all over again.

Didn't a T90 in Syria shrug off a frontal hit from a TOW?

I don't believe that shit. Video or ivan propaganda
i want to believe though

I found it but with a RT watermark this go around, I remember seeing some (((Media))) kvetching about Russia giving Syria T90's.

newfag
This was pretty well known and even recorded on video, the same tank was also refurbished and was put back into service after being hit with the latest tow 2A variant
southfront.org/tow-2a-vs-t-90-detailed-analysis/
vpk-news.ru/news/29923
2nd article is about it getting refurbished

Like i said the mods get butthurt over any narrative they don't control and try to derail/remove any thread that they cant use to shill the chesscuck narrative and accuse any poster that doesn't fit their narrative of being a goon or /int/

According to Jane's, at least 32 were irreparably damaged in Mosul.
Yep. NATO tanks are so outdated by now that stripped down 24 year old Russian rust buckets make them look like shit. Let that sink in for a moment.

Obama froze all of the programs for new kit.
He put us in a position where our tanks, self propelled artillery, and jet fighters are sub-par.
Not to mention our lack of general technological advancement since the start of the Iraq War.

NOT TO MENTION HOW BIG OF A FUCK UP THEIR STUPID CAMO PROGRAM WAS

They did just that.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toophan

GOOD LUCK ASSAD!

Might as well post a .webm of ISIS destroying an Abrams.

Yeah, and while Russia's advancing with their APS technology, the US has stagnated as said, and is entirely reliant on 37 year old tanks with depleted uraniumeme armor. I'll never understand why NATO never invested in ATGM for their tanks.

twitter.com/guyelster/status/888142685101576194

Detailed analysis of Turkish Leopard 2 losses
below-the-turret-ring.blogspot.de/2016/12/leopard-2-in-syria.html
below-the-turret-ring.blogspot.de/2017/01/leopard-2-in-syria-part-2.html

With artillery in particular we were making stupid decisions well before Obama, pic related

shit like this is why we made britpol go make their own board

al-qaeda is everywhere in Idlib area

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As a burger, I should find this shit fucking horrifying, but I've seen what guys on in defense contractor land: The laziest, least intelligent, and highest paid pieces of shit pat themselves constantly on the back for defending freedom with an endless hell of bureaucracy and red tape.

I've heard stories on the software development side of things that their idea of a "daily standup" is a five hour meeting arguing about which retarded acronym to use.

Daily standups in software land are supposed to be fifteen minutes. This doesn't count the constant diversity and sexual harassment training they know doubt are forced to go through because defense contractors.

These are the idiots designing the "thinking bits" behind the next generation tanks, ships, and fighter planes to export freedom across the world. The real engineers might have the best design ever, but if the software guys are spending all day being retarded, it's patriot missile system 2.0 all day every day.

We spend the most on the military, but that doesn't mean we spend it even close to wisely. Russian tanks outperforming our NATO allies' versions (who I assume are even worse off) makes perfect sense in this context.

Several ISIS vehicles destroyed by the SAA and SVBIED captured

I want to habeeb! Sauce?!

Habeeb it.

25% of the ones they sent to Syria, not 25% of all Turkish Leo2s
Pic related were all unrecoverably damaged, their modified M60s actually performed better

Will Iran even bother with conventional warfare like Iraq did?

They should just go completely sleeper cell on day one.

Or go Iwo Jima/battle of Okinawa/ do what the swiss plan to do in event of invasion.

Scrapheap challenge:Syrian War edition

The US tank crews were expected to have a life expectancy of less than 15 minutes during the battle of fluda gap.

Basically this is their plan, unlike Syria and Iraq most of Iran is actually built on a plateau and rather high altitude with lots of mountain ranges, which all makes operating helicopters and close air support much harder
Additionally they have focused on asymmetric warfare along with guerilla tactics and ATGM/Anti-Ship systems that make occupation much more difficult, especially combined with a homogeneous population with few ethnic or religious/political fracture points
pic related, their terrain is perfect is to turn the whole country into a Iwo Jima type scenario

Let's not forget that hilarious incident of Millennium Challenge 2002, when Lt. Gen. Paul Van Riper, acting as an Iranian commander, won a war games exercise against a far superior USA force.

Except, it's not so funny (nah, it's still hilarious), since Iran seems to have paid attention to that exercise and followed the asymmetrical warfare doctrine perfectly, especially with their navy (in short: fast, cheap and plentiful craft supported by anti-ship missiles and aircraft), while the USA ignored the results entirely because the Pentagon got so butthurt.

Would the US be able to take the cities? The US had a real difficult time against irregulars in Fallujah.

Just imagine what Iran could do with decades of planning & prepping like what the British and the swiss did

Iran could have a production line of explosively formed penetrators which youtubers are able to produce.

If Iran was smart they would train their non officers to be like officers to lead their neighbors in defending their country.

the commander cheated.

How, you blithering retard? It was a freeplay exercise, that is, until they decided America could only win if it were entirely scripted.

The horses traveled faster than a b2 bomber.

If he "cheated" that easily then your simulation sucked ass anyway. Thus, zero proof that the navy demonstration had any merit at all.

Hard to say, most likely the US would be limited to trying to take Tehran and possibly a few other strategic areas/regional capitals, i highly doubt they could effectively occupy the majority of Iranian cities/suburbs though and would most likely be limited to regional pockets of control

Pretty sure they already make EFPs on a production line for anti-tank mines but they could certainly ramp up production and have smaller local shops produce similar EFPs

this is literally the purpose of the Basij
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basij

Hes going to claim they used anti-ship missiles that couldn't have fit on the particular boats they used if it was a real scenario
However if it was meant as a Persian gulf simulation the Iranians have a large amount of fastboats specifically designed to carry ASMs with a similar size/displacement

Do you have any evidence to back up your assertion?

Iran needs to spam decoy missiles to eat up the defense missiles of the US military. It's like the Iron dome using expensive missiles to stop 100 dollar rockets.

This is probably why the simulation allowed things like teleportation motorcycles and sanic speed luxury yachts and fishing boats. It's all crypto chess pieces.

Kurdish source but hopefully true information and the Kurds are bout to get BTFO
aranews.net/2017/07/iranian-revolutionary-guards-launch-recruitment-campaign-preparation-war-iraqi-kurdistan-official/

You still don't fit in, modnigger

They practically used US convoys in Iraq as test targets, I've got money on the fact they can crank out tens of thousands of things a day and/or have a retarded amount set aside for a rainy day.

Ahahaha what the fuck, this reads like something out of elementary school

This is how a US conflict with Iran would play out:

Wew.

Slugging down in endless war IS the objective of US military and political class.
It isn't to win.

The best strategy would probably be taking the oil wells, fortifying the border and annexing them to Iraq/Kuwait/independent Khuzestan.
If they're deprived of their oil, Iran goes back to irrelevant status.
It's retarded to occupy a whole country full of mountains,sand and ackbaring muslims with no other important resources.

I think the accusation was that he used motorbike curriers that couldn't be intercepted and made it 100% of the time.
It wasn't cheating, but a big exploit. As you would exploit retarded AI or broken mechanics in any other strategy.

Slugging down in an endless war is how US loses wars due to political pressure. That the defense corporations love this is another matter.

USA literally cannot do this thanks to its own laws about self-determination that they pushed onto most of the world.

They can do anything. Including blowing civilians on land of foreign sovereign countries with drones, personal wars and regime change by open support of opposition with arms.

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Russia is good and Iran would be steamrolled by any modern white nation, barely North Korea tier in terms of a threat.

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Please be real

>Trump is just pretending to stop arms shipments to the (((rebels)))

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The thread is under attack by chesscuck mods trying to consensus crack

the bait is Iran being easily defeated

Another pathetic public speech by Pompeo (first one was on Assange). He went on the attack again against Assad, Russia, Iran and made more comments to reporters about WL/Assange.

So it's a failure on the main objective (regime change) for the moment but the agency won't give up. I wouldn't expect anything else. They'll have the MSM push the narrative that the Russian role is only minor in a desperate attempt to save face. It won't work.

rt.com/usa/397064-pompeo-us-russia-syria/
archive.fo/r0VlP
Transcripts in PDF format (open/use at your own risk tbh lads):
aspensecurityforum.org/media/transcripts/

wasted trips on you shlomo, go suck more cock

Lack of religious fracture points, yes, but ethnic there is definitely potential. I dont know how uppity Iran's Kurds are Azeri are about independence/autonomy, but there's definitely potential and Iran certainly isn't as homogeneous as it could be.

New SouthFront

Azeris are largely well assimilated and are generally no different from Persians/normal Iranians as far as loyalty to the Iranian government goes, i don't see them supporting any anti-government initiatives any time soon. The Kurds are a point of contention and opposed to the Iranian government but the Iranian police/IRGC keep a pretty tight leash on the Kurds in comparison to Syria/Iraq and they're not allowed to openly form armed militias.

What about Lurs? They may be just 6%, but if that map is right, they're sitting squarely on almost all of Persia's oil

Lurs are an Iranian Shi'a population so I doubt there's any sort of separatist sentiment there

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No one seems to have posted this little gem.
archive.is/9PPFZ

learn to live with this agreement

B-but muh Trump

What is the Israeli interest rate, at the moment?

arming the kurds hurts no one but turkey. Assad would destroy them, they have been operating with impunity against only isis who havent even been concentrating on them that much at all. They are just as bad at warfare as any other sand niggers. Using some commie sand niggers as cannon fodder standing in between turkey and a land grab is a brilliant strategy.

The cease fire was not a blanket ceasefire for southwestern syria, it only covered 3 cities and the area surrounding them. That article does not list a single city that was bombed, it just says 'southwest syria'. Of course the kikes wouldnt stop bombing but from that article there is zero indication that the us allowed the ceasefire agreement to be violated in any manner at all.

Also

Nothing like a thread showing Assad doing well to bring out the anti-chess shills.

Actually it does hurt the Syrian government and the more the US caves in to Kurdish kvetching the more it sets the precedent for shilling about muh Kurds if the SAA was to attack them

Nice try, shill

also pic related

HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHA

What reality is this that Ivan is standing up to the zog?

It's called Diplomacy, do you even played the game?

This is what kind of garbage passes for moderation here

Fuck off back to Plebbit you circumcized Trumpaloompa.

Fuck off Imkikefy, and take your MLP-tier animu shit with you.

Kill yourself.
In other news, Iraq stating the obvious.
archive.is/aanG5

Wasn't Al-Maliki very pro American back in the day?

Why no one has posted this, i don't know.
It's huge, like Suheil's lust for gainz and boytoys.
archive.is/DMlpo
cutoff the rival US-backed Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) from snatching any more ISIS turf along the Euphrates River
the SDF had entered Dalha and Al-Aukarishi in previous weeks are untrue
(((Coalition))) eternally BTFO by the Tiger

Wow, this music is fucking gay.

Also, the SAA's, Lebanese Army's and Hezbollah's operation in Arsal has shown some gains so far.
And the battle has been going for barely 2 days.

Why is Idlib on fire?

Long story short, t*rkish funded rebels and Gulf funded rebels are fighting each other for the nth time.
This time around though, it has escalated to silly proportions with open warfare going on there.

Chris Metzen retired from blizzard to do this? Wew.

I guess it's not so great when your country is divided by so many powers, but it's going to funny as hell when Roachland will have to deal with Kurdistan.

sultan erdogan is going to fuck those terrorists just you watch theres no future for them because mighty turkish army will sweep them off the field like spirit of mehmet was there and we finally free the world from kurdish menace no matter what the united jews of america say ottoman spirit is alive and turkey make new empire under erdogan who is powerful and has even scared puny russia and weakling putin off so little proxy state of kurdshit is nothing trust me its all over for those shitfucks but if assad bends the knee he can keep everything we dont capture. sage for Turkroach-tier shitpost. t. proud Turkish patriot.

Because it's likely fake. Also, it was't the Tigers, it was, allegedly, "pro-SAA tribal forces"

Yusha is known to be unreliable.

Erdog pussied out big time.

That makes it even funnier, roaches think they are superior to the Kurds, saying there's no such as thing as Kurdistan, and now there's Kurdistan. This can only lead to impotent rage.

LIQUIDATE THOSE POCKETS ASSAD!

MEANT FOR

Kikes have changed their original plans from removing Assad to breaking pieces off Syria all in the name of greater israel. If this ends with Syria losing territory to create a Kurdistan then kikes have achieved their major objective. Not a laughing matter.

Independent Kurdistan is nonsense that won't happen - literally every nation surrounding them would be blind with fury and either attack it outright, or if USA decided to intervene, then just embargo it – without access to the sea, they'd be utterly fucked and collapse economically. That's not even taking into account that if USA pushed this through, the Roach King would likely leave NATO.

It's far more likely that they'll become an "autonomous zone" that will be, technically, a part of Syria, but that will have its own parliament, laws, militias, etc., essentially being Kurdistan in all but name.

Really, the best course of action for Assad is to stall the Kurdish question for now until he beats both ISIS and moderate terrorists and then attack Kurds together with Iraq. USA would kvetch like mad, of course, but they would have little leverage with all their rebel proxies gone and likely wouldn't press the matter further, seeing as how they'd piss off Iraq and Turkey too, and antagonize Russia further.

new shill guide floating around halfchan

What? This is clearly targeted here. I remember the ISIS economics vid from a few threads back, and the idiot sperging over it.

im guessing someone whos jumping boards and chans got banned here and then tried to spread this elsewhere. and if thhe isis vid thing is true then this cant be older than the last thread (month or two)

Israel all but admits they have been waging war in Syria

news.antiwar.com/2017/07/20/israeli-general-we-wont-let-iran-win-the-syrian-war/

It's the little things.

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You forgot Iran.

No-nonsense kind of guy? I like that.

He was PM from 2006 to 2014 and now VP. (Iraq has three vice presidents or deputy presidents). I think it's safe to say having pro-US views was the only viable option a few years ago so this is pretty interesting. Still a pretty drastic change and highly significant. If he keeps making similar public remarks he's gonna need way more protection.

KURDS BTFO
Assad doing some real 4D chess – tells everyone Tigers are going to As Suknah, even diverts them there for a while, then goes full media blackout, and quickly cucks kurds before anyone notices.

Is this real life?

fukken saved
also why is it written like some RPG game fluff and subtitles from memri tv

no. its the burgers worst nightmare.

are you scizhophrenic?

archive.fo/utAOZ

Jesus Christ, US interests geting brutally raped today.

BURGERS ON SUICIDE WATCH

Holy shit, Assad really is Reinhard. So does that make k*rds the (((Phezzan))) of Syria?
/r/ing a shoop of Assad as the Golden Lion, pic related was the only comparison I could find (source is nationstates.net/nation=greater-syria, seems to be somewhat lulzy in itself)

nvm I read that shit more attentively, shit's reddit tier retarded
polite sage

The Hezbollah units who fought in the siege of the Wadi Barada area, The siege of Maday and Zabadani cities in western rural Damascus, with the victory by FSA deportations to Idlib, who were also part of the cleanup of these areas have now moved north and launched a new campaign to rid the previously held Qalamoun mountains of ISIS and their allied FSA.

There has been consistent progress so far and rebels are turning and running to dug defensive lines, but fail to hold back the sheer force. The Syrian and Russian warplane bombardments are highly effective.

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also:
HUGE EXPLOSION IN IDLIB

put too much snackbars in one place and you get explosive diabetes

Someone tell me I'm not dreaming.

I still can't get over that.
This is IRL trolling to the fucking extreme, the Amis must be foaming at the mouth lmao

Bumping to counter JIDF slide tactics.
Victory to Assad and allies.

Not Syria, but it is the based Houthis again.
archive.is/ke4Fl
almasdarnews.com/article/houthi-missile-strike-takes-saudi-oil-refineries-video/
It seems that the Houthis know where to strike the (((Saudis))) where it hurts.

7000 Ahrar al-sham terrorists defect and side with HTS
they take a granade factory with them, and AAS counterattacks, the explosion might be connected to the event.

THANK YOU HOUTHIS THANK YOU TOCHKA

DeirEzZor BY AUGUST

That shit was very accurate. I hope more Saudi infrastructure is destroyed.

This is what happens when Russian missiles are used properly for once.

holy shit the Tiger cut off american hands on the souther bank of the Euphrates, is this confirmed?

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Feels good, man

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damn that red on the map is speeading faster than Mccains cancer

Kill yourself you dumbass jewnigger

There are leftist idiots who're in /sg/ that chooses the SAA side but does pretty subversive shit like muh drumpf, muh kurds, muh based isis d&c bullshit like (((they))) typically do.
See: and

Go fuck yourself.

gas yourself, kike

He did, also you're fucking retarded and replying to a controlled opposition chesscuck shill

Of things to note: Afrin is no longer shown as aligned with the government, and the Al-Tanf cuckshed has shrunk, with their salient in the west completely captured.
Also, the Salami salient is shown as smaller than expected. It seems that the SAA's media blackout has worked as intended.
Kill yourself.

(checked)
I think the map's inaccurate. Overly optimistic so as to give journos a better picture to show. T2 capture happened only a few hours ago, yet the remained of the road to the boarder is already shown as captured, Al Tanf pocket should be like twice its size, Eastern Qalamoun pocket and Dumair is missing entirely, as is the Western Qalamoun one, Beit Jinn pocket is missing, Darra should be way bigger in the east, and so on. Maybe they only show the most relevant places, as most of the missing pockets haven't been relevant for months, yet they still do exist.

I just noticed the areas that you pointed out.
Interesting. So, it is either what you said, AKA the Russians showing off, or the media blackout is far more extensive than we thought.
I suppose the former is more possible, no?

Things like Eastern Qalamoun are shown on all maps and have been known for months, with plenty of news coming from those areas, so it's not a media blackout. Maybe they just dumbed the map down and only left the most relevant spots? When he talks about the Daraa deescalation zone, the map he shows is very different (pic related).

Wakey wakey, shake and bakey!
What is different in this map?

kys you subhuman

/sg/ was always the most based anti zionist-american thread and fucking murdered any JIDF, slafist, leftypol, chesscuck and other shilling the moment it appeared.

also
trump is arming terorists in syria including commie kurds which leftypol sucks on you absolute abomination.

(((america))) has been cucked for over a century and it a fucking ZOG (((election))) with a patsy isnt going to change shit you autistic monkey

Hezbollah, has been shredding Al'nusra to pieces in day 4 of the Arsal Offensive within the Qalamoun mountains.

whats with the ISIS pocket at the israeli border right now? any news?

It's more of an affiliate group in that it is highly autonomous from the rest of ISIS. They've been sitting there for a long time, doing nothing, until about half a year back (plus minus a few months) when their many sleeper cells in moderate terrorist territory went and conquered enough land to double ISIS territory there. "Moderates" have been trying to retake it ever since without any significant results except a couple dead on both sides.

In recent months, the only noteworthy news about it were when a new ISIS leader there uncovered that his predecessor got murdered by his subordinates, after he found out that his immediate subordinates frequently secretly hopped border to Israel for some (((reason))). Those subordinates then got executed.

See this:

Last month, they've been killing traitors, even captured some 'aid workers' who they chopped their heads in public squares. The group does sporadic hit & run style attacks while seizing soft and hard military equipment as well as other supplies. They did a probe attack towards Hayt to test defenses some 2 weeks ago i believe. FSA can not really do anything against them as the salafist group rivals and even outmatches their military might. Syrian forces together with Syrian and Russian air support would decimate this group. While Israel and Jordan could have destroyed the pocket back in late 2014 but did nothing, instead they used it for their own gain while ALSO giving sporadic support as well as infiltrating the group.

The group is very secretive and is estimated to have upwards of 20+ CIA BGM-71 TOW missiles, a handful of tanks and dozens of flat bed heavy weapons.

i remember that hoolahoops with the commander getting killed and following purges from one of the last /sg/ threads, but i didnt think its important.
would you say the assasination or later purges had anything to do with ISIS accidentaly attacking an israeli checkpoint and then apologising, as in

the group formed by a merger of two smaller groups, and had always been more of an ISIS affiliate independent on the rest of ISIS power structure. I think the leader was just a retard wanting a caliphate, so mossad infiltrated it from the bottom. Else there would be no reason to go through the trouble of assassinating the previous leader. Besides, it's not like Israel has been particularly secretive about its sympathies for ISIS. They know it'll all get memoryholed and will never reach normalfag's eyes.

so it was just a clandestine mess when israel saw it was to obvious for everyone when ISIS appeared at their doorstep and they wanted to (((contain))) the situation by infiltrating.
also explains why the ISIS guys going across the border were dealt with.
well i always spam those articles about terrorists in ISraeli hospitals, terrorists with israeli weapons and ISIS apologising to israel

they already doubled down and started trying to divert the issue by "muh Iran". The official kike story is that Iran is so, so evil that even ISIS is better, so of course they'd preffer ISIS, and you're a really stupid bad goy if you don't see that Iran is literally worse than Hitler and a global threat that will soon use weapons of mass destruction to nuke babies wordwide

Here is another gem. Not the good kind.
archive.is/Dz1Vn

:thinking:

what is OPs webm?

Looks like hezbollah using their stockpile of anti ship rockets that the kikes kvetch about all the time to shoah some illegally floating high interest low down payment boats.

This is the price you pay for (((US))) support these days? No wonder the world's trending towards China and Russia. At least they've got a little bit of sense and decency left in them.

Hopefully these faggots get what they deserve, pic related

gotta virtue signal to all those progressives and fence shitters that you're the moral, moderate force!

I wonder if Holla Forums has its faggots there.

Seems as if anyone can create their own military units in the ME these days.

Some major points of note

- Pro-Assad forces have captured Dalhah, cucking the """SDF""" in their crude attempt to roll down the Euphrates

- SAA reportedly only 26kms from Abu-Kamal (or Al-Bukamal, depending on naming convention)

- Elimination of the pocket east of As-Suwaida and apparent rollback of the Al-Tanf OIR standard fuck party's zone of control.

- Significant fortification of the Iraqi-Syrian frontier

LOL, this is hilarious. It's like Syria has become a containment zone for all kinds of crazies. Surely there is a way we could induce feminists to grow their ranks

Ba'athism prevails again as the least degenerate political system and the most complete version of a national socialist ideology, although inherent Arab pandering is present considering its intended audience at the time
albaath.online.fr/English/index-English.htm

ah, before I learned to shitilly obscure the watermark

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Could someone please enlighten me as to why the war in Syria started? I know this a proxy war between USA, Russia and perhaps China. I know this is a war to rid Israel of one of its enemies.

But what else? I heard it was also about a pipeline and the petro dollar but I've never seen any evidence to back up that claim.

LINKS PLEESE

There's plenty of reasons, the most obvious at the time was the colour revolution wave known as the arab spring which sought thru much foreign (see CIA) meddling to destabilize nationalistic stable states in the arab world such as libya and syria ostensibly in the name of furthering democratic ideals. The Israel connection is many fold, firstly the regime in syria is a strong unified state which disputes a border (the golan heights) with israel, secondly they have strong long running ties with Hezbollah one of the few paramilitaries in the region that has proven victory over the zog military and lastly because of the strong support and connections with Iran that Syria has grown to boast during the conflict. The Chinese connection I'm at pains to corroborate I believe you might be confused with Iran which is a major player not really subservient to Russia or the united states.

On the issue of the pipeline which is undoubtedly connected to the earlier information. Iran and Syria have an open proposal for many years prior to the civil war to construct a natural gas pipeline from the Persian gulf thru Iran, Iraq and then Syria to be used by all three and then extra to be sold off. Qatar in the Arabian gulf sought to construct a pipeline of its own thru Syria for mainly profit, this proposal was denied by Syria due to how it would influence the price of Russian natural gas. The Syrian Iraq pipeline mainly seeks to supply those countries it would go thru rather than be sold on the market while Qatar is purely aiming for a more efficient delivery method.

With the recent consolidation of Saudi power in the gulf (or attempts to) combined with the obvious support they've given to various groups affiliated with or plainly ISIS its safe to assume the Saudis would build the Qatar pipeline with them in control, which would place them in sole control of not only much of the worlds crude oil but natural gas and since they aren't nearly as reliant on this source of income (natural gas) they could afford to severally undercut Russia on the price. Turkey has recently shifted to a more radical Islamic lean and strengthened their connection to mecca which makes Lebanon and Syria the sole opponents to this idea considering Jordan is almost swollen to burst with so many random shit skins it can't be guaranteed to aim for its own interests.

With the recent shift in borders and not so recent shift in Iraq to a US vassal state the only way forward would be thru kurdish territory which no doubt will shift violently once the rest of the war against ISIS and then the (((moderates))) is finished.

>(((those))) who stand behind them

rt.com/news/397380-maliki-russia-iraq-isis/
archive.fo/3L3Qq

what am I looking at

Seems As-Sukhnah is going to be attacked today by gov forces, only major point left on the central road to deir-ez-zor.

ASSAD IS CUCKING SDF OUT OF ITS TERRITORY SOUTH OF RAQQA

SDF AGREES TO HAND OVER TOWNS TO SAA AND TRIBAL FORCES ARMED WITH TANKS

Not surprising.
It's better for the Syrian army to concentrate on the west bank and kurds on the east.
The enemy is ISIS. Kurds are trying to get as much favors as they can for the peace conference.

And oil is the main objective now and a bargaining chip later. Get as much as they can before ISIS collapses.
Probably one of the major reasons for Deir ez Zor drop.

There are many factors at play for the salafist group near the Golan. For israel, it's a great intelligence asset to infiltrate, with IDF standing by to take action if it need be, however there is certainly a risk for the israeli's who larp as arabs that go into the lions den. The Israeli's back in 2015 did send special forces into the jahidist held area, to raid some buildings according to the official story; most likely to rescue their inside man who they lost contact with. These jihadi's rarely instantly kill someone unless it is in battle, most prisoners get interrogated for weeks if not months.

When they attacked the Israeli checkpoint, i believe they tried to prevent a infiltration attempt, though there is no proof and this is me just speculating. Their official apology towards Israel proves there is mutual benefit, again, if Israel wanted to; the IDF could absolutely steamroll this jihadi group with very minimal israeli loses.

Israel gave them ample supply in arms and the CIA helped with this as well, they also received medical aid in Israeli's hospitals, after which they are sent back.

Don't forget the RAT lines of OIL convoys to Israel in this location, Turkey did the same up north.

The sim literally forbade him to use fucking landlines to communicate with his forces, which he circumvented with the motocycle messengers. Because hurr durr god forbid REDFOR is anything but a bunch of stone age morons.

The thing that will be very significant in the future is the retaliation of muslim states that didn't support ISIS.
It's obvious that they traded them oil for weapons, logistics and air attacks and every government in the ME knows it.
If the pissed off oil states like Iraq, Iran and Syria start supporting groups in Israel and Lebanon, we're gonna see a very interesting future.

The peace conference should also be interesting.

USA just slapped more sanctions on Iran

/sg/ may be anti-kike, but apparently shills from all over have a real good hold on you faggots when it comes to mentioning President Trump, and a good number of you fell for their ziopuppet and trs chess trigger word meme crap, hook line and sinker no matter how much you try to shrug it off as a 'non-argument'
kek

Are you implying that Trump somehow didn't want to invade Syria? Because that's exactly what he did. He went further than fucking Obongo, even, sending troops and building military bases, not to mention the various strikes on SAA. You can't blame this on Obongo holdover because Trump fucking spearheaded this shit. He even appointed Mattis, who considers Iran to be the greatest threat in Middle East and refuses cooperation with Russia.
This is a Mattis quote, just so you know.

And you wonder why /sg/ doesn't suck Trump's dick like half of Holla Forums.

ok, say it. say it exactly as you mean it. say:
"trump is not a ZOG puppet president and the elections in the US of A work exactly how bluepilled normies think they do, and the US has, with the latest elections, turned into something othef than the biggest ZOG tool in human history."

just say that and we (or i atleast) will forever stop arguing against chess posters.
do it.

Not only that, sanctions against Russia will pass through as well.
The reasons are funny.
And of course, Crimea, years after it happened.
Why does this administration have such a backwards external policy? Not even Obongo was this bad.

I don't understand it either. Trump promised bettering of relations with Russia and an end to wars in middle east and policy of regime change, as well as bringing the hammer down on China. Yet what's happening is the exact opposite. Russia's getting slapped with sanctions, syria got invaded, saber rattling against Norks and Iran, China still on good terms… I applaud Trumps achievements in domestic politics, such as limiting immigration, sinking TTIP, (hopefully) starting the wall, refugee ban, etc., but his foreign policy is just Obongo 2: Electric Boogaloo.

Exactly, user. Either President Trump never really meant what he said while campaigning but was merely speaking to issues that he discerned were hot. Or, he was 'convinced' buy Deep State/MIC/ZOG either because he is a lot weaker internally than his external signaling- or they threatened him to 'get with the program.'

Plebbit, make no mistake, up to the point of the 'hey let's have a limited ceasefire/let's stop funding (some) Jihadis', the Trump Administration did what Obama could not: Direct strikes on Assad's forces and open invasion of (parts of) Syria. Now the ceasefire was more for show because Russia had already brokered that in the Astana peace talks. I think both Assad and Putin want to prevent any complication with things involving (((THEM))) opening up a new can of worms. So they deftly navigated Tel Aviv into a position such that they will have to literally openly take the side of Jihadis in order to enter into the fray directly. Taking Deir ez Zor and the Euphrates is much more important than getting into a tit for tat with kikes in the southwest. It's not fair, and yet another example of (((THEIR))) abominable behavior, but the better move is the 'long game.'

However, Trump acceding to the cease-fire and announcing (whether he means to enforce it or not) that the US will stop supporting the 'rebels', does put things 'off script.' But, T_D plebbitor, make no mistake that Deep State is just doubling down on the """SDF""" Kurdish plan to break up Syria. The Kurds aren't even a majority of the population in areas that they claim. And as others have posted, they are attracting circus freaks (LGBT brigades? Wew…)

I also agree with user that 'Muh Based Mad Dog Mattis' is one of the dumber things that Alt-Right people latched on to. Mattis is a Boomer MIC par excellence openly promising fresh Gentile blood for the state of Israel.

Something for fans of 1488D chess theory to consider: Trump's strikes on Assad have been 100% illegal. The powers that be brow beat him into ordering the cruise missile strike to 1) induct him into the cabal (he shed innocent blood -during Holy Week no less- and is now party to murder) and 2) so that they could burn him at any time. White House legal reasoning for the strike was at first non-existent and later became a cut and paste job of Obama's legal reasoning for the strike on Qaddafi.

SAA footage from around Homs countryside

New South Front video

You can't be anti-kike without being anti-American.

That map really needs to be updated.

Why is the USA so fucking wasteful during wartime? You'd think with those dozens of daily airstrikes they'd at least manage to kill a handful more of them. I mean, I know the SDF is playing tiddlywinks with Daesh, but come on!

you sound almost as if you dont trust in the bureocratic two-party nomenoclatura of american representational democracy goy, remember; if you dont vote youre a nazi

Trump and the PM of Lebanon are saying that Hezbollah are the bad guys…

The fuck is going on?
Is the Lebanese selling his country out to the Jews?
It isn't embedding.

youtube.com/watch?v=Z6M3hfUyUSk&feature=push-u-sub&attr_tag=qfCbqM8JmoY5ULyx-6

>(((militants))) surrender to the Syrian army in the northern Hama countryside

rusvesna.su/news/1500918932

He probably doesn't want to get on Israel's bad side, now that it has the perfect new (((ally))) in the face of tr*mp.
Now that is bizarre, since the Lebanese army is co-ordinating with Hez closely to defeat that one HTS and ISIS pocket in Lebanon.

this tbh.

He spoke against Assad too at the 18 minute mark.

"i won't let Assad get away with it"

Lebanese government doesn't really have that much of a control over Lebanon. The country is divided among many political and interest groupings, of which Hezbollah is just one (albeit one of the most prominent). Lebanese PM is, for example, a sunni muslim who leads the sunni political group in Lebanon, he was buddy buddy with Obongo, and had clashed with Hezbollah politicaly on numerous occassions.

You shouldn't take anything the Lebanese government says too seriously, as it really cannot do shit – the moment it'd try to do anything too controversial is the moment the various interest gorups would drop their support and cause the government to fall. This already happened in 2011 when the very same Lebanese PM got into conflict with Hezbollah (he accused them of assassinating his dad), after which Hezbollah withdrew its support and caused the government to fall. This Lebanese PM also has a Syrian arrest warrant on him for supporting rebels, and is heavily anti-Assad.

Now, given all this information, are you still surprised that this guy calls Hezbollah the bad guys?

wikimapia.org/#lang=en&lat=35.820319&lon=39.245224&z=12&m=b&show=/17457789/Huwayjat-Shinan

What do you see this situation developing into?
Did you watch the whole video btw?
Some answers by the PM were in Arabic and the translation mic didn't come in the final video.
Maybe some arab news outlets are reporting on it.

Nasrallah right again. Funny how a muslim sayed is someone i would actually like and agree with. must be the Aryan genes in Persian genotype.

Also Trump stole all the credit for "major victories against ISIS in Syria and Iraq"
This isn't chess. This is petty thievery.

This isn't chess. This is petty thievery.

Wrong, he's playing chess against Obama. Every time he mentions ISIS its a jab against the democrats.

lebanon has that autistic yet effective shit with a PM always being sunni, president always shia, MoD always christian or something like that to keep the country stable right?
if it wasnt for that and the fact that lebanon is a rich mediterranian country compared to other arab states they would be aleppo2.0

english.almanar.com.lb/311485

almayadeen.net/news/politics/61242

Yeah, he jabs against the democrats… for not being even more kiked! He's criticizing Obongo for not invading!

Correction:

Putin meeting the Iraqi PM, Maliki today, more Russian-Iraqi cooperation expected
This comes days after he called for more cooperation and support from the Russian military and said the US was responsible for helping create ISIS in Iraq
presstv.ir/Detail/2017/07/25/529599/Iraq-VicePresident-Nouri-alMaliki-Russia-ties-Moscow-Valentina-Matviyenko-Sergei-Lavrov

Even if he is attempting to jab at Obama, the gains against ISIS in Syria and Iraq have been overwhelmingly due to Iranian/Hezbollah and Russian support in spite of US efforts

Basically. If any of the groups tried shit, it'd get dogpiled by all the others, so there's this sort of uneasy peace. It's also because Lebanon is far more westernized than the rest of middle east, so even the sunnis there are significantly more moderate than in other areas. That is not to say that it's all peachy there or anything – every time tensions rise, in the region, bullets start flying in Lebanon, but it stays at that – some public disorder, sometimes a small bombing, but no actual armed clashes. Things were quite serious there when the civil war was starting, especially after ISIS got big, but have mostly calmed down since.

Anyway, the fact the Lebanese PN is openly hostile to Hezbollah, yet Hezbollah is free to do whatever the fuck it wants should give you an idea about just how much power the Lebanese government has.

Yet he hasn't invaded Syria, he's opened up a line between Russia and the "SDF" so that they don't step on each others toes during operations.

Trump wants the war over, Clintron wanted a no-fly zone so she could invade iran for WW3.

Doesn't matter. Normalfags will see the Syrian war end and attribute Trump with overseeing victory, not Obama. Thats why i think Trump keeps attacking Obama and the DNC's credibility.
If Trump succeeds where Obama fails, it takes even more wind out of the democrats sails.
Who are they going to run for president in 2020? Kamala Harris?

pic related, 5 of these did not exist under Obama

Also the problem is US support for the SDF or any other rebel group to begin with you dumb fuck
There should be no excuse for the US to have any advisors in Syria and a deconfliction line is not acceptable when Trump explicitly ran on less foreign intervention in Syria

disabled that shit in HoI4. swedecuck metal

The fact that there are still people on this board who take the '88D Chinese Finger Trap' meme seriously is mind boggling. Trump may have been a better alternative to Clinton, but that doesn't mean his foreign policy isn't neocon-lite garbage that belongs in the trash.

Okay, retard.

Fuck off and stop shilling.

Don't forget the Al Tanf cuckshed.
The US even has MLRS systems there.

Not only there.

You talking about Kurds? There's no fighting right now between SAA and SDF. They are fighting the same common enemy. Trump is maintaining leverage in the area. Don't be dumb.
Special Forces and Air Strikes don't qualify as a military invasion anymore. See: Crimea

You're just not accustomed to this level of strategy, i get it.

Since when isn't sending troops into a country whose government expressly forbid it, building military bases there (also illegally), arming anti-government insurgents and bombing the government military not considered an invasion? He's negotiating ceasefires because Russia and Assad are wiping the fucking floor with US-backed insurgents.

So he's pandering to jingoists? I don't want USA to get involved in foreign wars. Trump should have done what he said pre-election. He should have said "fuck Syria, I don't care", pulled all US resources from the region, and instead used all of the money that would have gone to fund the war to improve US infrastructure, create jobs, etc. He would have easily crushed democrats with that, because the average american really doesn't give a shit about the middle east, but he does give a shit about roads in his area getting fixed.

Wow how do the SAA still exist in those areas if the US is invading to remove Assad and the Ba'athist government?
Wow most of those bases border Turkey
Turkey is actively trying to take all the areas that the US occupies

Don't be a fucking idiot.

He bombed SAA numerous times afterwards, especailly around Al-Tanf, which you'd know if you visited this thread more than once in a blue moon, you fucking faggot.

So, you don't deny they're building military bases in Syria? Looks like Trump betrayed his campaign promises, doesn't it?
You obviously haven't paid any attention to this war, or else you'd know about the US airstrikes on SAA forces during the same time.
They're a self-proclaimed sovereign state that just implemented its own tax plan, you fucking mongoloid.
Nice D&C attempt, Moshe. You'd know all of this if you had paid attention to anything other than Trump shilling threads in the past two years.

Nigger you must be new here.
Turkey, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Turkmen, Arab jihadists, Uighurs, France, etc. are all operating without the governments consent because the jews have completely destroyed all notions of civility.

You really think that Trump is arming the same people Obama and the (((globalists))) armed? You're out of your mind.

we're not going to invade syria, faggot. we're just using the Kurds/YPG/PYD as leverage against Turkey

What makes you think the Russians won't depose Al-Assad? Herp derp.

SDF and SAA may have official neutrality between them, but that doesn't mean they aren't fucking enemies you moron. SDF's interest run in direct counter to Assads (and in direct alignment with Israel), and there had been several border incidents between them already. Hopefully, after the rebels and ISIS are dealt with (((SDF))) is going to be next to get massacred.

So you admit that USA occupies those areas. If turks slaughtered the kurds there, they'd do everyone a favour, btw

Dude, leave. Go back to Plebbit where that kind of idiocy might be tolerated. You chess morons have built a cult of personality around Trump. You cannot admit, like we have, that whatever juice we might get from the Trump Administration, it will be accidental to Deep State's primary goals. Trump folded April 6th:

You cannot find yourself on any logical footing when you claim that the campaign message of 'We should leave Assad alone, he fights ISIS, which we support' and 'No missile strikes on Assad; gas attacks are fake news' is in line with "muh beautiful gaz babies I saw on CNN", OIR bombing militias that were closing on literal terrorists (again, literally guarded by USMC), and now "Assad won't get away with it" threats.

Oh look, the sanctions passed. What a surprise.
archive.is/1nL97

Really activates your almonds.

Are you actually trying to argue that the US government is not openly trying to remove Assad?
see pics related for Mattis cuckery
The fact is that the US openly wants to remove Assad and his government but all previous efforts have been a total failure and its not feasible aside from a major war with Syria with much larger numbers of US troops which isn't going to happen after the Iraq disaster

>You really think that Trump is arming the same people Obama and the (((globalists))) armed?
Yes, the arms sales to the Saudis confirm as much
Take your weak bluepilled shilling elsewhere

>like (((we))) have
Fascinating theory there, shekelstein.

You are a nigger, faggot.

We got a live one here boys

>You really think that Trump is arming the same people Obama and the (((globalists))) armed?
The forces Obama armed got obliterated, so he's arming SDF now, who are just as bad. Your point?

Holy hsit you're retarded. Leverage against Turkey? Kurds were what even got Turkey involved in the first place. It's what's pissing Turks off to an insane degree and what caused them to drift away from NATO. How is this a "leverage" against them? It's a fucking provocation that USA suffers to keep leverage AGAINST ASSAD

The fact they've been the ones who saved him from getting couped and supported him ever since?

Kill yourself.

I think the most hilarious thing is how obvious and out of his depth he is. Look at the claims he's making – he doesn't know about half the shit going on in Syria, he literally only knows the MSM headlines (thinking there was just one strike on SAA, that there weren't several subsequent gas attacks, etc.). I'm beginning to think he's just baiting

Because it was obvious that Russia completely shields Assad from direct conflict. Hence, no more false-flags. Hence, the needs for another way to weaken Syria. Hence the k*rds.
There are "moderates" fighting together with the "S"DF (the marxists who trump backs), not to mention the subhumans in Al Tanf. Who, despite being trained by the US advisers there, lost half their territory to a simple pincer attack.
A literal meme.
They literally just passed new sanctions against Russia. Read the thread faggot.

Why are you implying that the US government and Trump are the same thing.
the Trump administration appears to be in open war against (((foreign intervention))).

(1) obligatory (you)

Kurds aren't as much of a threat as an Israel/CIA backed international "islamic state" you dumb fuck. All of a sudden ISIS starts up in Marawi after Duterte is elected? fuck off.

Turkey hates the kurdish people and wants them genocided. Perfect way to keep the turks out of Nato and the EU.

Yeah because it stabilizes the region. They have no loyalty to Al-Assad, but they realize the implications of leaving him in power.

You think i want the SSNP/Ba'athist out of power? wrong. i'm just thinking big picture.

come get some, shitberg.

T_D cuckshed dwellers cannot keep their narrative straight for even a single post. So you admit that we have invaded Syria? What, do you think that it doesn't count if we only squat on 10-20% of the territory?

This is not the case and would back absolutely no sense in any respect. Pivoting to the Kurds to split up Syria was clear to anyone months ago (unless, like you, you happened to have neocon penis in your mouth.) Threating Turkey, at random, with a Kurdistan, just because, would not serve any interest. Turkey would simply do what it is doing: pivot closer towards Moscow.

I guess to embrace this sort of train of reasoning one would also have to consider that slicing open your cock, stuffing it back in, and calling it a vagina is a 'lifestyle choice' that should be respected or at least studied.

He doesn't even know there was a claimed gas attack in Damascus just this past week. Sometimes, it startles me how little people know about Syria. It's like Ukraine all over again.

This

Haha yeah. SAA/IRGC/Russia/Hezbollah is going to win in the end which is probably the best thing.

twitter.com/abdullahawez/status/889747122140192768

Yeah exactly, so why would i automatically assume that Trump is behind it. Congress is clearly controlled by the deep/dark/jew state.

>the Trump administration appears to be in open war against (((foreign intervention))).
LOL, good one
see
He went further than Obama did

WRONG
they are worse, most people and nearly all countries are against Salafist Jihadists but not Kurds, Kurds are far more of a long term threat to the stability of Syria and are more likely to result in its Balkanization and provide a US excuse to stay in Syria

This is a good thing, everyone should hate the commie Kurds and want them genocided

Yet they have supported his family for the last 40+ years and did far more to defend Syria than any other ME country the US invaded

And so are you along with anyone else that supports commie D&C faggots that are the Kurds
>>>Holla Forums

We live in total warfare. Economic, social, cultural, religious, etc. There isn't peace to be found anywhere.
(((They))) false flag all the time to justify their actions. The israelis shelled the SAA because the jews are obviously using the rebels in Qunietra to protect their illegal golan heights gains.
Why would you think that international law is relevant when Israel even exists?

Russia would support whomever would keep the country and Russian interests intact. Whomever Iran and Lebanon would ally with. It is a conglomeration of interests. It's not particularly about Al-Assad. Bashar's greatest asset is the Syrian people's allegiance. For that he will survive. Same with the US. The issue is that our interests aren't legitimate, they are tainted by the jews.

>the Trump administration appears to be in open war against (((foreign intervention))).
He literally just showed you an example of someone from the trump administration, who trump picked, who is a staunch neo-con. AKA that weakling, Mattis.
They are even worse you fuck. They want their own completely independent state, despite making up a vast minority in the areas they occupy. A weakened Syria like this is precisely
what the jews want.
Pick one. I fully support Erdog's endeavor in smashing their skulls.
Which is why Russia threw herself in the open to defend him. Holy shit neck yourself you dumb shill.

Baseless conjecture that was a common (((MSM))) shill talking point 1-2years ago about what they hoped, no Russian gov source has ever claimed such and with the situation much better now for the SAA it is even less unlikely

This, subhuman K*rds deserve nothing but to be exterminated

ISIS did help Iran. Thanks to ISIS, Iran has a huge amount of influence and control over Shia territory in Syria, Iraq, and Lebanon. persians aren't stupid, they've spent the last 50 years developing their infrastructure for just such an occasion.
You're just taking the quote as if Mattis thinks that ISIS was created by Iran.
Yeah, and credit to them for actually caring about their international relationships, even after the USSR fell. Putin deserves credit for that.

Good thing it looks like Turkey and the PKK will have a fight in the future! Great opportunity to remove kebab.
D&C Turkey and the PKK? sounds good.

what the jews want.
Jews wanted Syria completely destroyed, and all arab countries split up by ethnic lines. This is not currently the case.

I fully support the conflict that consumes both turk and kurd.

You are either Plebbitor or a fanboy of a particular 'Alt-Right' podcast whose job it is to shill Trump to us.

Now, you ask why no new gas attacks? There were claims, complete with video and the media tested them. The reaction was so bad (even Cernovich/Milo tier types rejected Nimerata Haley's blanket threat against Russia), that they backed off. I think the new justification will be "oy vey, Hezbollah missiles hit Israel!"

Oh really? So they evacuated the Al-Tanf garrison? Not last that I checked. You'll have to forgive me if I apply a little 'trust but verify' on this. But I will say that I suspected that we would officially wind down support for the FSA because it was such an untenable position to be in. But I may ask you why was the US military flying in your "moderate jihadis" to SDF controlled territory? What do you think the intention was to that, Clauswitz? Maybe, just maybe, this was a long planned pivot to confuse retarded shit-in-diaper chess morons such as yourself? "No dude, we stopped supporting FSA! SDF is for freedom, we should support them!"

We had a glimmer of life with Trump talking to Putin like normal leaders are supposed to. As I wrote already, the ceasefire was already brokered in Astana. Moscow and Damascus knew that Israel would not stop lobbing bombs if the SAA drove ISIS/other jihadis back to Israeli territory whence they came. Deir ez Zor and the Euphrates mean much more than getting sucked into a tit for tat with Merchant by the Golan. But reign in your delusions: Trump just threatened Assad directly and Hezbollah as they literally are on the ground fighting ISIS. He took credit for victories that Assad's forces and allies, not us, won. And the Administration has not returned Russian diplomatic properties yet.

Yeah dude, I agree. Congress is worse and on some level Trump may not like playing Deep State/ZOGs bitch. But it does not change the fact that he is acquiescing to it.

Yup. This is exactly what I thought of reading 57ae9a pabulum.

Alright with the Mattis bullshit he's really making it obvious now. Total shill.

At this point its clear you're a shill with no cognition of your own
literally parroting baseless (((MSM))) lines unironically
Nope, he made it quite clear that they didn't create them but did benefit from ISIS
Which was still an Obama/Hillary talking point and exposes him and any supporters as nothing other than co-opted neocon trash that deserves to be necked
archive.fo/So7FV
No, what you are doing is coming here to sperg out because the anti-Trump posters hurt your fee fees and now you're trying to justify your retarded narrative and attempt to D&C /sg/ in general
That is precisely the case of what the Kurds are being used for

This much is quite clear

If Trump is trying to get rid of Assad, then explain what moves he has made to do so? Seems like the entire Syrian misadventure has done an about face since Trump has been in office. I remember being platinum mad when Trump launched a missile at the SAA, but nothing came of it.

No new gas attacks because they don't work anymore? Would that have been the case with HIllary? Of course not.

CIA should be completely disbanded, with their command handed over to the military. Do you really think that Trump is the one calling the shots at the CIA? The southern front collapsed, Hezbollah is taking back Arsal. The Southeast is being taken back along with Deir Ez-zor. Of course the CIA Niggers are trying to pivot to the SDF region. They're not going to win. Russia already won the war, now i'm looking forward to the international diplomatic conflict that will arise. Thats why we're getting all the pro-kurd propaganda. "its our time for a state" etc. etc.

Thats why Hezbollah and Iran are operating in areas where international law prohibited them before? It's like you don't understand the Sunni-Shia conflict.
They did benefit from ISIS. They basically are the ones in charge of the militias fighting on behalf of Iraq. Thats why the jews are so butthurt about ISIS being defeated.

No, lol. I'm legitimately looking forward to the PKK/Turkish conflict. I don't like Turks.
So once that is settled, whats the next step in the jew's master plan. What other ethnic D&C can they establish after the war is over? They really fucked themselves. I bet the next step is the collapse of the gulf states, which helps Russia/iran/syria.

Nigger, they were invited by Assad to come help him, international law is perfectly fine with that.

Full transcript: Defense Secretary James Mattis’ interview with The Islander
mihsislander.org/2017/06/full-transcript-james-mattis-interview/
archive.fo/So7FV
June 20, 2017

Are you seriously trying to imply that Hezbollah was not in Syria before the civil war, or that they were not already in Iraq after 2003? Muh "International law" is a fucking retarded meme, i bet you also think Hezbollah disarmed in 2006 in Lebanon because the Israelis and the UN told them to
They were there before ISIS you dumb fuck, look up the Hashd
they were mainly fighting the US before
Kurdnigger confirmed
Turks are shit tier but still better than the Kurds
Now youre trying to conflate Israeli foreign policy initiatives (Kurdistan) with Russian/Iranian ones (anti-gulf states), the Jews are likely to push for an independent Kurdistan in Iraq and later Iran if it works in Syria

But that cannot be, right? It has to be 88D underwater subspace Romulian chess, right? It just cannot be that Trump caved to ZOG, right? I can't debate this any further. If you are seriously seeking truth and not just being a baiting sperg, find me on normie book. I'll gladly debate you: Jon Dave is my name there.

DeZ soon

Jews are good at lawfare, not warfare. So i'm not going to suddenly sperg about Mattis making a statement of fact in regards to ISIS helping Iran.

Nigger, read the thread again and check who said that international law was a farce.
They were there when Saddam was in power. They were there the whole time. the US put the shiites in charge, ISIS led a sunni uprising, and now the shiite militias with the help of the IRGC is destroying ISIS which puts Iran in charge. Hence, ISIS helped Iran. It just wasn't intentional.

No, i'm saying that the frontline of the Sunni-Shia-Israel conflict will be in the gulf state territory when the Syrian war is over.

Trump could have caved to ZOG, but the amount of butthurt going on in response to Trump makes me think otherwise. inb4 trumptoucheswall.jpg

Meanwhile, the SAA in DeZ are taking a break and repairing a BMP they captured from ISIS.

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nooooooooooo my weakness. dammit, trump is a kike i knew it. he takes orders from george soros through kushner, the damn kike wormed his way in.
i hope he put a picture of dickbut into the little envelope thing

are you literally from reddit?

Safe to say hes a (((trans)))plant from /r/donald

reddit doesn't invent anything. the meme came from 4chan like 10 years ago.

Just stop responding to it. The fact that it hasn't left means this D&C shill isn't your run of the mill Reddit chesscuck. He's a dyed in the wool zealot for the golem-emperor.

See

>literally parroting baseless (((MSM))) lines unironically

>Safe to say hes a (((trans)))plant from /r/donald
obviously
The trumpcuckery and the muh 4chan original shilling though makes it seem more like a mod/puppet since that is part of their narrative

see

I'm amazed at how you don't understand what Mattis is saying.
Nothing mobilizes civilians into militias faster than terrorism. Therefore ISIS indeed helped bolster Iran's operations by centralizing opposition leadership in Tehran. How do you not understand this?

I'm not disagreeing that Iranian influence grew in Syria/Iraq but trying to portray it as "ISIS helped Iran" and using it as a pretext for attacks on Iran/Hezbollah is disingenuous and a kike tier political move
Further anyone that still defends Mattis after his statements and unironically parrots (((MSM))) media is a fucking shill that isn't worth listening to
The problem is that Mattis is unironically parroting Hillary/Obama and (((MSM))) talking points and anti-Iran sentiment, the fact that you are acting like him doing so isn't an issue exposes you as a fucking shill

Absolutely.
Is that what Mattis is actually doing? Whats his goal? The USA basically has no business in the middle east aside from oil which is still kike petrodollar scheming.

read the full article from

Hes cancerous as fuck and unironically parrots the muh Iran #1 terror threat along with Israeli talking points and still pushes for Assad to go

Assad must go, no Hezbollah presence in Syria, "democratic elections" when the population is 70%+ Sunni and Russia out of the Mediterranean
Which all folds perfectly into the Yinon plan

from

Ah its the good ol' regime change program so that we can bring democracy to arab countries.
Holla Forums is always right.

it's the same old spiel
fuck Mattis

i can understand how burgers naively fall for the new burger king and his bullshit. i dont really care if they persist in their false hope and circlejerk in their US topic threads.
what pisses me off is that they feel the need to just go to other threads, especially those who they know are anti-american, and then shitpost about some ADHDchess bullshit and try to fool others as they fooled themselves.
and no, they dont learn in one thread. in one month. no, they just spam their bullshit thread after thread, every thread they can find.
/sg/ fucking destroyed their retarded meme the first time it appeared there, and what happened? they just waited for another /sg/ to come and they sodomised it again. and again. and again.
and every time its the same:

i mean these people are retarded. theyre literally a stereotype of bluepilled burgers.
going to elections and voting to get fucked in the ass, and what do they do? vote again. and then some more times. and do they acknowlidge that they will get fucked again? no, they think the next one is gonna be a god emperor or some shit.

i called it out in august last year, that i cant wait for those naive burgers to get their dreams shattered when trump beats that cunt and gets into office.
but instead of enlightment and repention they just went for damage control.

seriously chesscucks;
you arent making america any better, youre just making Holla Forums worse

user, I was a little hard on you in my criticism and I do apologize for the more insulting terms that I used. It looks like you're open to information that could disrupt your narrative. I do hope that you're right that President Trump has a sort of strategy to combat Deep State/ZOG. It is clear that he and Tillerson really do not want to sign this sanctions package, but the GOP House and Senate members showed that they are just as owned as the DNC caucus. The trouble is, even if Trump is unwilling, his Rose Garden statements were signals of something other than chess. I'm sure that that is how Moscow, Damascus, Baghdad, Tehran, etc. took the words. But we'll see.

In the meanwhile, you're welcome to continue the convo with me on my normiebook that I gave out. But really do some homework on the Kurds and the open, in your face, no hiding Israeli backing of Rojova.

You're working this hard for one fucking dox? Stupid kike.

Die in a fire, kike.

Nice try chesscuck, you will never be a part of /sg/ and will never blend in

everything he said is true. you fucking degenerates ought to fuck off from /sg/. The only D&C that happened here is when a bunch of dumbass burgers took the bluepill and chose naive goy food over the truth.
Youre fucking apostates, and your posts are abominations.
/sg/ always was and will be tge based anti-ZOG board that rejects shills, no matter how subversive tgey are

Meanwhile here's some none derailing information regarding the Arsal Offensive.

Hezbollah has given Ha’yat Tahrir al-Sham (HTS) Jabhat Fatah al-Sham Al'Nusra Front al-Qaeda in Syria, or commonly known as Al'Nusra a deadline to negotiate POW trade and a safe route to Idlib after day 4 offensive. The HTS is a group who are called the Organization for the Liberation of the Levant, commonly referred to as Hayyat Tahrir al-Sham (HTS), which is a merger between Jabhat Fatah al-Sham, Nour al-Din al-Zenki Movement, Liwa al-Haqq, Ansar al-Din Front and Jaish al-Sunna. HTS is a faction within ISIS who have a fragile collaboration effort.

Dozens of Al'Nusra went to the Lebanese army who has been guarding and defending the Refugee camp filled with Syrian and Palestinian refugees during day 3/4/5 and surrendered from the sheer shock campaign in the preceding days. Many salafists abandoned HTS and went into ISIS territory and joined them. Negotiations have been undergoing to deport the remaining HTS to Idlib and to trade some captives, those in Hezbollah and Lebanese army custody too would be given amnesty for their crimes and not uptake arms in Idlib or face death penalties. Tonight, if not extended, the deadline is reached regarding the negations, tomorrow Arsal Offensive Day 7 will push the remaining HTS pocket and proceed to attack ISIS.

There have been no OSINT signals for the Saraya Ahl Al-Sham FSA group who reportedly were fighting Hezbollah, Syrian and Russian bombardments in the early hours of Day 1 of the Arsal Offensive. In the afternoon they declared a one-sided seize fire and stated to be retreating. They were a much smaller group merely there to keep up the charade of rebels fighting the government. It is currently assumed they were exterminated or made the day long hike into hardened positions within ISIS territory, which have already started to receive artillery and aerial bombardments since day 4 in preparation for the coming offense, but even in this ISIS territory these FSA might face a unknown fate.

Arsal Offensive - Confirmed loses:
Day 1 - 15 Hezbollah fighters KIA
Day 2 - 2 Hezbollah fighters KIA, 4 IRGC KIA in Syrian land, 1 Syrian POW from Homs to HTS.
Day 3 - (Major withdrawal from HTS - Syrian territory only has to worry about ISIS) No losses were reported.
Day 4 - 3 Hezbollah fighters KIA
Day 5 - 3 Hezbollah fighters KIA, 3 Hezbollah POW by HTS.
Day 6 - 2 Hezbollah fighters KIA and ongoing
Day 7 - …

Current confirmed reported loses total - 25 Hezbollah KIA, 3 Hezbollah POW, 4 IRGC KIA, 1 Syrian POW.

Arsal Offensive - Confirmed kills:
Day 1 - 48 militants KIA
Day 2 - 30 KIA. 1 POW.
Day 3 - No kills reported (HTS withdrawal)
Day 4 - 36 militants KIA
Day 5 - 45 militants KIA
Day 6 - 21 militants KIA and ongoing
Day 7 - …

Confirming 150 militants KIA since start of Arsal Offensive.

These figures exclude many salafist deaths as they can not be confirmed. Many of these unconfirmed kills are from artillery or aerial bombardments and their bodies are not retrievable or noticeable due to their bodies being buried under rubble.

keep up the d&c though, it makes everything so obvious.

Fuck off Trumpcuck

>"Oh my gawrd if dem h'white yuropoors don't all love each other after literally thousands of years of conflict it must be D&C agents behind it!"
now quit derailing, tommy
sage for off topic

New South Front video

Behold the amazing results of the great Turkish offensive! After about a month since declaring it, turkish-backed forces have conquered an entire village! Truly a feat worthy of sultan Erdogan.

Reported.

you burgers are the fucking eternal anglos. you try to keep europe weak and under control. both in geopolitics and on 8chans pol.
when europeans get strong you try to D&C, and when that doesent work you try to push your shit memes down our throats.
the only difference between you anf the classic eternal anglo is that you have jews with their hand up your ass running you like a puppet.

exactly how is anti-americam sentiment in a perpetually anti-american thread D&C?

fuck off to your contaiment subreddit

reported for spam and shilling

feels good man

>>>/reddit/

good luck getting anywhere with the chesscuck (((mods)))

i know. i and two other posterd have been looking at the admin log and so far the biggest cuck was that resurrected player who banned people that were reported by chesscucks for shit like mentioning US elections are rigged.
whereas 4pol is compromised vy the sheer shit quality of posting and the anarchic number of shills,
8pol is beeing compromised hirearhically.
its like having to choose between mad max and 1984

Hezbollah troops fighting ISIS in Arsal, Lebanon

American Green Berret Special forces get slaughtered at King Faisal Air Base by Jordanian Military base guard. This is the same location where the CIA is running a covert program to train the syrian rebels.

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Play by play
The shooting begins at 0:50, the first truck which is green is fired upon and Staff Sgt. Kevin McEnroe died instantly while driving truck #1.

In Truck #2, Staff Sgt. Matthew Lewellen was shot several times in the chest, lost consciousness after a few minutes and would choke on his own blood in the half hour to follow. This happened in a matter of seconds. The other Jordanian guard then proceeds to run away for cover, this guard will sit behind his roadblock for the entirety of the video and will later meet up with US soldier #4.

It takes over 10 seconds for Truck #3 & #4 to react to the shooting, so much for their elite training, while they are merely armed with handguns, with their infantry gear is in back of the trucks.

The unidentified soldier in Truck #4 takes cover behind a roadblock while Staff Sgt. James Moriarty in Truck #3 steps out and aims with his handgun to return direct fire to the guard who is prone merely less then 100 feet behind roadblocks, no shot hits their mark. When the Jordanian guard returns fire, James is hit in the lower stomach through the front door and bolts for cover behind the road block.

At 01:20, the guard shoots the truck at the driver side again, most likely due to not able to see inside the truck and he might have lost sight of them.

At 01:50 the guard takes direct aim at the soldiers who were looking over the blocks where the threat was.

From that point forward the Jordanian guard kept direct aim at them and put shots on target while the soldier tried to shoot back with rounds whizzing over them and against the concrete block barricades.

At 02:20 a military vehicle approaches with soldiers in the back of the truck and the US soldiers motions for it to come to them, the vehicle hears the gunshots and drives away.

At 03:03 the guard almost gets a head shot on #3.

At 03:18 the unidentified US soldier from truck #4 raises his hands in the air as a symbol of his surrender.

At 03:30 #3 James also moves to the same roadblock as #4 and also raises his hands in the air, while they both start waving their arms frantically while yelling they surrender.

At 03:36 the reply from the guard is more direct fire which he misses. #3 & #4 can feel the heat and sound of the bullet whizzing past them and the bullet impacting the roadblocks.

At 03:40 another car approaches and drives past casually, intrigued by the cars inside the checkpoint.

At 04:10 both #3 & #4 seem to haphazardly yell something to each other and then make their way past the cars to the other blocks that line the base from SVBIED attacks.

'''At 04:22 the guard who has been shooting at them becomes visible as he makes a aggressive dash towards them as he saw them cowering away.

At 04:29 the guard stops at truck #3 and yells at them to stand up and or to surrender, while making a lifting motion with his left arm while aiming a rifle at them.

At 04:35 both soldiers #3 & #4 again look over the barriers and raise their hand as a symbol of surrender.

At 04:40 the guard moves towards the front of truck #4 while again yelling at them to surrender, there is now verbal contact between them, the guard fires at 04:46.

At 05:10 the guard moves to the side of truck #4 to prepare to flank them.

At 05:18 the guard signals to others to the right side of the screen to out of view of the camera to stop or to not come close.

At 05:20 the guard starts shooting again and at 05:23 a the barrier where soldier #4 is located. He misses the soldier.

At 05:24 the guard rushes soldier #4 location and misses him completely, #4 ducks for cover to the opposite side of the barrier, the guard shoots at #3 who is also aiming a gun at the guard, the guard kills the #3 US soldier Staff Sgt. James Moriarty. He roles for cover and tries to duck away, but as he was shot in the head he begins losing consciousness he slumps over and dies. Soldier #4 gets up, while the guard is shooting #3, and the #4 soldier shoots the guard directly in the shoulder.

It seems the other guards may have been aware if not complicit in this act, one of the other guards then comes into view of the camera and yells for him to surrender, most likely as a effort to save the Jordanian guard. The #4 US soldier raises his hands in the air and then backs away. The random guard seems to be called back by someone. The guard who killed 3 US soldiers received a life sentence.

It also seems there was some misunderstanding and that the soldier acted to a threat to the base for them carrying weapons which was not allowed and presumed it was a attack.

read up on it and found this gem (pic related)

It seems some people hate burgers enough to slaughter them even without having ties to any terror organizations. Maybe USA should finally take the hint and fuck off from Middle East.

It's the little joys in life, like American SpecOps getting shreked by second rate soldiers that get me through the day

Russian Imperialist Scum.

Smelly, dumb, bolshevik scum.

Where did you get that from? Look at the red and black again and sit in the corner.

Oh sorry, what special snowflake brand of communisim do you follow then?

wtf i'm anarcho-animeist now

This shouldn't happen with how much we spend on them. The only soldiers more expensive to the military are the trannies.

Look at the RED and BLACK.
emerge -av anarchism

wtf i'm a syndicalist now

Trannies just got banned.

Question is just how overpriced everything surrounding US military is. Given the massive military-industrial lobby in the US, I expect the US to be paying through the nose even for normally cheap shit. Amount spend doesn't guarantee quality received

About just as shit as commies.

I wish my country had such based president like Bashar Al-Assad. He genuinely seems like a well mannered guy who is doing his best to help his people. We truly live in a twisted world when Gulf States leaders are praised as paragons of justice where Assad is portrayed as epitome of evil.

Any other anarchism is just idpol with the exception of stirner.
At least you don't have a faggot anarcho-queer in this thread.

Suknah getting stormed as we speak

=YES

IT'S HAPPENING!!!!!!!!1

The element of surprise is very powerful against anybody. Even so-called special zogbots with years of training. The pentagon can keep funding pedowood movies and various TV shows but ultimately they're aren't all that special.

AlmasdarNews:
BEIRUT, LEBANON (11:30 P.M.) – The Syrian Arab Army (SAA), spearheaded by the 5th Assault Corps and backed-up other pro-government forces, has just established full fire control over the ISIS-held town of al-Sukhnah in eastern Homs.

Today the SAA and its allies advanced deep into the very last mountain chain that stands before them and total fire control over all approaches to the the strategic town. In doing so, pro-government forces secured all key hilltops within the mountain chain, moved to within seven kilometers of al-Sukhnah and established total fire control over it.

With every howitzer, rocket launcher and field gun available to the 5th Assault Corps about to be trained on al-Sukhnah, any attempt by ISIS to try fight for the town would only result in unnecessarily high losses for the terrorist group and, even then, it could not hope to hold onto the settlement.

With this being said, al-Sukhnah is expected to be abandoned by ISIS within a matter of hours and left for pro-government forces to liberate. It is quite possible that the town is heavily mined with explosive traps.

The specific operation carried out by pro-government forces today to secure the last hilltops before al-Sukhnah resulted in the death of dozens of ISIS fighters as well as the destruction of five vehicles belonging to the jihadist faction.

I came

John Bolton kvetching over Iraq-Iran relations

Lol!
Invade a country under blatent lies. Set the infrastructure of a country back 40 years, destroy the social cohesion and fracture it which took hundreds of years to create, Iraq now is ruled by local warlords. Destroy Iraq's economic might and decrease the standard of living for the average citizen back to the stone age, give power to Taliban like never seen before, even during the occupation.

And then this fuck-all senator who most likely supported the false lies for the invasions says, oy vey why don't you like our "foreign aid". When will they realize they are the bad guys?

fucking this. night of the long knives when?

You seem to forget that historicaly what became Iran was always multicultural in the traditionnal sense, unlike the USA who's multicultural in the modern sense; the first method is truely more unifying than the second.

Kek, exactly. The moment US troops fucked off was the moment Iraqi relations with US tanked, since they no longer had a gun put to their head.

Fuck off back to leftypol you subhuman anarchist piece of shit.

it doesent matter how much the govt spends on them.
the US is already trillions in debt, and there is virtually no bottom for that debt to hit.
the pentagon wont run out of money. theyll run out of people to die for wars that make that money worth something.

hey you fucking anarcho-mongoloid, get this:
YPG is a US imperialist proxy
ASSAD IS THE BEST FUTURE FOR SYRIA
were coming for leftypol

reminder that Holla Forums's retarded userbase is being shot dead by shithadists in Syria.

Assad is a russian proxy.
What side do you what to go with, ISIS?

>green zone attack by (((CIA))) "vetted" shitskins
kike.

Imagine really believing this

We're all fucking puppets.

>therefore we must support all based (((USA))) and their kurdish proxy!
Kill yourself.

The enemy of my enemy is my friend, then he'll be just a enemy.

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>(((CIA))) "vetted" shitskins
You clearly didn't research this story at all.

Either you're a CIAnigger or woefully underinformed.

I know I'm derailing the thread, I just like to bitch around and see the reaction.
I don't go on pol very much.

The individual that shot him though wasn't part of the US vetted Syrian rebels, he was just a random member of the Jordanian army
They were training rebels at that base but it wasn't one of the rebels that chimped out

twitter.com/Syria_Conflicts/status/890328394390437889

shot them rather

It's okay if you don't understand, but don't pretend that you know.

Are you seriously trying to imply he was part of the rebels or had connections to any terrorist organization when both of these points are blatantly false? Seriously nigger?
Yes, for all intents and purposes he was the same as any other member of the Jordanian military and had no characteristics/connections that would lead anyone to think otherwise before the attack

We can see that. Now go back to your containment board and take your retarded views with you. The fact that retarded shit like anarcho-capitalism actually has followers is mind-boggling.

Clinton News Network CNN "reporter" Ryan Browne states:
US-led coalition told local Syrian allies they must only fight IS and not Syrian Gov forces, prompting the exit of an allied group Liwa Shuhada al Qaryatayn from al-Tanf. The group baulked at the Coalition's restriction and exited al-Tanf to carry out independent operations against Gov forces.

As to where they exited and or if they are now going to a death/suicidal last ditch effort to attack Government forces is unknown.

US might be "officialy" trying to distance themselves from their own puppets. Needlessly to say, if they become a nuisance, Russia's pepefoot planes will come in and swat them like flies.

IMO the most likely situation is that the US has finally given up on its goal of removing Assad/SAA and told the rebels at Al-Tanf to cut their shit and to stop attacking the SAA and only ISIS which they sympathize with and have no interest in fighting, so they left

user, Al'tanf is surrounded by Syrian forces and their vast allies. What ISIS is there left to attack? Jordan side has no ISIS, and the Iraqi side is also controlled by Iraq army and PMU forces. Al'tanf is litteraly a safe zone, except that the FSA are the hostiles and the US is protecting them.

No they haven't given up they are making a major push in the media because Drumpf cut off the CIA program
The media kikes are especially angry that Kurds won't/can't be used to overthrow Assad
Don't know about sympathize with
I mean the al-tanf FSA lost a lot of men capturing all that desert from ISIS only to lose it to SAA in a month

christianpost.com/news/isis-genocide-christians-removed-state-department-documents-193327/

HTS has gone full Semite after getting raped by Hezbollah, claiming to have killed 200 Hezbollah fighters, wounded 250 of them, and captured 1 fighter, while only losing 8 of their own. They also claim to have been hit by 10,000 missiles every day. I'm starting to think HTS is just a cover for the IDF at this point.

Not only that, but apparently the stories of faggots fighting for the SDF were a hoax. Looks like Daesh is moonlighting as comedians after their years of successful shock jock routines.

The cuckianity retards in the US gotta be kept angry about muslims killing nigger Christians in Africa.

Muh poor poor niglets.

Someone tell him that women can drive in Iran as well.
I hate Mattis so damn much.

Coincidence?

Seems like the US is trying to convince those rebels north of jordan to join the kurds/SDF and stop hostilities with the syrian army. Seriously doubt it will work out but its troubling to so blatantly steal more syrian land by co-opting long standing belligerents under this Kuckistan flag and forcing the hand of assad when dealing with them later.

the precise area

They aren't even hiding it anymore. Kurds are opposition 2.0 and USA tries to salvage its failed op for any and all resources.

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Fuck off Trumpcuck

Really makes you think.

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That is some heavy Talmudic 'reasoning' that is best contained to leftypol.

CAN'T MOSSAD THE ASSAD!

New South Front report
youtube.com/watch?v=ThgmnPe3uOM

Why is Idlib covered in flames? Shouldn't it just be green?

Yeah dude they've practically taken Raqqa, ISIS in Syria is just a stretch of the Euphrates plus some towns to the west. What I wonder about, is once ISIS and al-Qaeda are cleaned up, what will be done about the Turdish menace? Will the war keep going on for years, or will they accept ceasefire in return for local autonomy and concessions or something?

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Take your commie pro-Kurd faboyism back to >>>Holla Forums

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When I said "Turds", I meant "Kurds". I could see how that could get confusing though, kek.

Possible Deir Ez-zor offensive map

DEZ offensive likely confirmed, Kurds are getting cucked before they can finish the Raqqa operation
twitter.com/SARReport/status/889482665086394368

Fair enough, also digits checked
TBH they are both a menace to be faced after the war but the Turks are already politically much more compliant with Russia/Assad

But there is media blackout by SAA. The SIRI coalition are actively sowing disinformation. Tiger forces said first to be heading to Suknah, they turned around and headed east and gave flank cover to tribal forces cutting the kurds off.

The problem now for Tiger forces is that the Euphrates route is lined with town after town, city after city and rural building after rural building. These towns and cities aren't empty either, they will be filled with populace. Destroying their infrastructure will mean a humanitarian problem and is going to set the forces back. These urban densities, would be familiar to them as in the Allepo style combat, but it would be an obsolete slow progress to claim, especially since ISIS is staying in place and preparing to be martyred. They have set up IEDS and other traps. As such it does not seem like the military choice to make if the objective is Deir'ezzor. If they get the city back, they got a new forward operating base where new air support can come in and help with the reclaiming of towns and cities, especially moving Russian assets there to aid in attacks. THe further Syrian forces move away from latakia and Palmyra the less effective the air support becomes.

The logical step now is to go south and that the tiger forces use the middle route and link up with Palmyra forces 50 kilometers south from Deir'Ezzor itself, and from there spread out again to reclaim most parts of the Deir'Ezzor city. The deciding factor is going to be determined whether the tribal forces are effective in urban combat and or is the Palmyra front with a whole lot more air support going to break the ISIS strongholds. If they can not do this, the tigers will have to either divert south and help in breaking the stronghold or have a battalion or two leave the tiger forces and go assist in Palmyra efforts.

from what I've seen so far, it seems like Tigers are going to bypass the euphrates towns and go to Deir through the desert, whyli the tribal forces are going to try a slow advance along the river

rt.com/news/397758-russian-air-force-syria/
archive.fo/kyZ8d

The k*rds deny it, because if this info reached the millions of arabs that reside in their areas, you can bet that they would revolt against the k*rds for being so supportive of horrible degeneracy like this.

Beep beep!
Negotiations were extended last evening and night from day 6 to day 7 of the Arsal offensive as the Syrian and Lebanese Government had to agree to the terms regarding Nusra's surrender. The fighting had already stopped mid afternoon of day 6 as negotiations started to ramp up.

Ultimately, both governments agreed and a ceasefire went into effect at 6 a.m in the morning of day 7. As a result of this agreement all the Al'Nusra fighters and their families will be deported to the Syrian Idlib pocket. The complete details of this negotiation are not made public. the POW's Syrian soldier from Homs and 5 Hezbollah fighters were released. The HTS fighter taken captive by Hezbollah will also be deported to Idlib.

The Lebanese army is creating a blockade around the Qalamoun mountains within Lebanon to block the jihadists from escaping. Hezbollah is regrouping for a now offensive within the Syrian and Lebanese mountain ranges.

Excellent work by Hezbollah as always. They have proven themselves to be by far the most effective fighting force in the war.
However, Lebanon's remarks against Hez and Assad are still worrying. It looks like everything is falling together for a 2006 v2: electric boogaloo "Russians arms and training edition"

White helmets make fake video of chemical attack with fabricated pretext

For new US strikes on the Syrian army that is

First video about Russia-US relation.

Somehow, a US MSM retard managed to get there. The rule was ONE question for everyone but as usual, the self-important cunt assumed it didn't apply to her. So what happened? The Finnish President switched to English and told her she was out of line (second video).

Is that Finland President Man?

>(((((Saul)))))i

Why is a finish president a kike?

A few days old and not Syria but "Yemen’s Saleh calls for his supporters, Houthis to continue fighting."
middleeastmonitor.com/20170725-yemens-saleh-calls-for-his-supporters-houthis-to-continue-fighting/

What do you guys think?

its the pentagon that backs the SDF, CIA backed alqeada groups you embicile

that saudis cant sleep at night?

You can't win when the people you oppose are deploying guerilla tactics. If there were a standing army vs standing army the outcome would be rather quick. The houthi population supports the houthi cause almost unequivocally. The saudi's are not going to win hearts and minds after what they have done for years. The eastern side of Houthi is infiltrated by Saudi's and they create fake support for Saudi rule especially by the fraudulent election of the president who is in favor of saudi rule. The saudi's will either have to kill the overwhelming majority of houthi's in a genocide or ultimately admit defeat. If they opt for the first, this will spark a reaction from Russia, who itself is also continually sending humanitarian aid to the Houthi's.

This on going war is most likely a effort to prevent the houthi's from developing advanced self defense and first strike long range capabilities because the kikes started to kvetch. The recent short range ICBM that took out a Saudi oil refinery and then targeted a main saudi military base really showcases this point, granted some of the tech is Iranian. It's also clear by the ground based cruise missiles / suicide attacks that severely damaged Saudi naval ships and even attacked the american USS Mason frigate that fled the coast after dozens of missiles were launched at it and it began to run low on countermeasures to defend itself. A embarrassing moment for the americans, in return the US bombed some radar sites.

Ultimately the houthis will win, especially since Iran is backing them. It will come to a great financial cost to the Saudi's and many lives could have been spared. The saudi's will most likely lose ground. The Sauds have proven themselves to be incapable, requiring extensive US support and backing to even put up a fight. Regularly the houthis have invaded full blown military bases along the southern eastern side of Saudi Arabia, tens and tens of miles into saudi land and wreaked havoc. The houthi's have destroyed millions and millions of dollars of equipment with simple explosives. The simple cost–benefit analysis from this speaks volumes.

It seems we were both wrong. According to reliable OSINT sources, such as @IvanSidorenko1 the Tigers have moved further east along the Euphrates laying siege to a wide area by controlling the hills over looking these towns and cities from Sabkah to Maadan. The tribal forces control the Sabkah hills while the Tiger forces control the Maadan hills. It seems a effective strategy to cut off supply routes and to lay siege to these population centers.

However, it also proves that the Tigers are going the long slow route along the Euphrates; which means the Palmyra front is expecting a hard and long fight all the way to Deir'ezzor.

Whether the information as to Tiger whereabouts is true or no i can not confirm.

There is still a extensive ISIS force present in the desert hills from Hama to deir'ezzor who might still retreat and amass in one single battle, which is what Russia was hoping for so they could bomb them during they convoys. It seems the ISIS fighter are more inclined to stay in their defensive positions and fight till their last bullet.

Not entirely unexpected either. Agreement or not, I suspect SAA wants to block Kurds everywhere it can quickly, since agreements get broken fairly often during wartime. The Palmyra front had been moving sluggish ever since the offensive began and goes through the most unforgiving terrain. Plus ISIS had been preparing for it for months, so its likely they mined everything and dug in. I wouldn't be surprised if it got diverted north after Suknah to pocket the western ISIS prong, too.

Today a US Kurdistan Symposium was held in Washington with key players to discuss a Kurdistan Referendum and a possible move to get international support to enforce a referendum outside of Iraq's sovereignty. Some noticeable statements were made. It is assumed due to the Kurdish people having spread out over the planet in the last few decades that the vote will be internationally held by digital voting. In this regard, they have followed the way of the Jews footsteps.

Michael P. Pregent |Ex-Paratrooper| |Analyst| {{{current Policy Advisor}}} (Hudson Institute Think Tank) stated:
- "Defeating ISIS is easy, but this enemy is simply a phase, one of many to come." //War against Iran?//
- "I am told by (((contacts))) in the region that: "we are more worried by the Shia militias." //Iran, Hezbollah, Houthi//

Kurdistan Regional Government (KRG) Governor Najmaldin Karim stated:'
- Believes a majority of the Kurdish people in the region all support a referendum.

Kurdistan Region Security Council Masrour Barzani‏ stated:
- "ISIS is not the problem, … there are many deeper rooted problems that have existed before ISIS and will exist after ISIS is defeated."
- "Our commitment to fight against ISIS and international terrorism will continue regardless of our political affiliation with Baghdad." //Allegiance statement to Israel//
- "We must make sure Kurdistan is protected by international law. We must make sure Kurdistan is a sovereign state. It's the only hope left."

Former US ambassador Peter Galbraith {{current Policy Advisor}} ^CORRUPT - OIL^ [[ networth 128M ]] [[ influential I ]] stated:
- "Independence of Kurdistan is inevitable, … it is in the United States best interest!”
- "The regional impact for the surrounding countries and the US relations will have to come to accept and adjust the reality of a (((independent))) Kurdistan."
- "It is important for US and Europe to avoid the mistake of Yugoslavia."

Arizona Congressmen Trent Franks [[ influential II ]] stated:
- "Iraq is a arbitrarily created country, the Kurds should have the right to be free and pursue (((our dreams)))." //This same argument can then be said for Syria which some of it's borders were drawn up by the Sykes–Picot accord as well.//
- "Iraq's sudden pro Russian stance to let Russia drill for oil is a clear a Iranian manipulation." //Black sheep Iran, Israel Foreign policy//

US Congressman (((Joe Wilson))) ^CORRUPT - BRIBE^ !LINKED CIA! [[ networth 17M ]] [[ influential II ]] stated:
- Offers his support to the Kurdish people.
- Expresses himself poorly and is quoted by saying that there is 'a need in "liberating" the impact of the oil industry in Iraq'. //Merely interested in economic benefit, coming from a jew what a surprise!//

Douglas Layton {{current Policy Advisor}} [[influential IIII]] [[Political Activist]] (NGO) stated:
- "For Kurds to achieve independence, the Kurds will need to win the (((hearts and minds))) of Americans, not just Congress!"

Retired US Brigadier General Ernie Audino [[ influential I ]] stated:
- "ISIS can not be destroyed, and kept that way without the Kurds!"

Retired US lieutenant general Jay Montgomery Garner [[ influential I ]] stated:
- "Sykes Picot is dead! We must end the One-Iraq policy, … and support the Kurdish independence!"

Retired US General Anthony Zinni $ANTI KIKE$ ^INTEGRITY^ [[ influential II ]] stated:
- "In today’s environment, where we question allies willingness to burden share and assume equal risk, we have never had to question that when it comes to the Kurds." //NATO fair share//
- "The Kurds are a model for all persecuted peoples of this region."
- "a thriving and prosperous Kurdish society can grow based on our shared values."
- "The Kurds provide an excellent example of what can be. By supporting them and investing in their continued development, we can help create a model for stability."

Kurdistan is the bane of virtually all involved factions. Their role against ISIS does not give the Kurds even remotely enough leverage to pull this off - Ankara in particular would go full apeshit at the prospect.

Oh gee, a US puppet is becoming an obstacle for peace in the region.
Who would have thought?

Those fucking cunts, so used to having their way that they act as though their approval is all that matters. Iraq, Iran, Turkey, Syria, Russia… none of those countries will suffer Kurdistan to exist, and they have far more influence in the region than USA does. Shit, US influence there is so small that it's barely enough to keep the other parties from attacking their puppets! US can't even use (((UN))) because Russia will just veto any such bullshit, so what leverage do they have? They're shitting sanctions all over Russia and Iran – what threats do they have left against them? War? They don't have the public support to pull that off. The only thing that could make Kurdistan a reality would be its own military strength, but it doesn't have that despite the US support, not when literally every country they border wants them fucking dead. Is USA hoping that Iraq and Syria will be too tired of war to push for the finish? Nonsense!

US is digging its own grave in Middle East with Kurdistan. First they fucked Iraq over with Saddam, throwing the country back into stone age, now they're trying to steal vast parts of its territory, and dare wonder why Iraq suddenly became massively pro-Russia? And the Turks – they too are getting tired of being pissed on by Kurds and despite being in fucking NATO, USA is only barely managing to stop them from bombing Kurds off the face of Earth. Think those would let this fly? That's not even counting Iran, who would definitely intervene with more than just militias now that USA declared a diplomatic war on it.

Kurdistan is the kike's wishful thinking. A dream that they hope will become real if they talk about it enough. In the end, even if we were to assume a very positive result for USA at the peace table, Kurds cannot ever hope to get more than some sort of an autonomy, and Russia would have to make quite a concession to allow even just that.

Seeing them unite the entire Middle East with bumbling foreign policy is the most heart warming and side splitting thing I've seen in years. If the US maintains its presence in the Middle East, I really wouldn't be surprised if some sort of official regional coalition emerge.

Kurdistan is just another golem. Let's help the kikes out and not allow it.

Whenever I show Hezbollah vids to US soldiers, they think I'm showing them vids of US special operators. Apparently, people don't believe that militia forces can train to become such an effective fighting force.

Embedded is probably why a lot of our infantry guys think Hezbollah vids aren't focusing on a scrappy militia. If our pros are this incompetent, I guess you'd think Hezbollah are motherfucking delta force in comparison.

Nusra went full dorf fort

Nursa Turned into VC

are the reports on tiger forces intending to cros the euphrates to cockblock the kurds true?

just incase anyone still doubted they were orcs and washington was sauron

The league of Nations was the precursor to the (((UN))) and it only worked when it was the western world who used it to reach a consensus, and even then it could barely agree on anything. When the (((UN))) became internationalized, these same countries then used the security council to get their way. When the SC became internationalized they used NATO's strength to force their wanted outcome with military might and a vast media propaganda in their own mostly closed block of the world to claim the moral high ground and sell their invasions as if they were doing the right thing. Yugoslavia, Kosovo and Libya are the example of those one-sided policies other nations around the world opposed in the (((UN))).

Just as other countries recognize some countries the rest of the world does not, North Korea only recognizes Palestine and not Israel, i believe one of the last countries to do so. Russia and some of it's allies recognizes South Ossetia and Abkhazia while the West does not and sees those vassal States as sovereign land from Georgia. Russia uses it's military might to ensure they are independent by controlling their borders. For example, Russia put up signs signifying a border in south ossetia, creates border checkpoints and removed archaic roads to prevent smuggling routes, Russia even created border fencing in some areas.

There is a reason why the US has been building military infrastructure in northern Syria, but they are also doing this in Iraq. The US is going to use it's military might to separate the Kurds from the rest and then defend those borders with force. This will also act as a further Iran buffer, which is what Iraq was under Saddam. They will hold some fake international election of which we already know the outcome to use it as a excuse for their occupation. While the international community bickers on whether this action is justified or illegal while the Kurds will be "independent" in their own country.

In this case, those who use force, will win and it's a clear signal to the rest of the world. Arm yourself with nukes and maintain a strong military to prevent those with equal or better military forces to make decisions for you that your own country would not like. It is the same reason why the kikes to this day are able to occupy the Golan, because they used military force to take it, and then use military force to defend it while using media to win over the local populace. Destruction of the Republic of Syria would mean the Syrians would lose their claim to Golan which was one of the main factors the point of the Syrian destabilization scheme. Now that this has failed, the Israeli government wants to win hearts and minds of the Golan people to vote for Israeli rule. The Iraqi invasion was primarily in favor of Israeli foreign policy, not because of uranium rods or yellow cake; WMD's, it was all a lie just to sell the war to the Americans.

The Turks failed to do what they should have done which was take massive swatch of land such as Afrin, Ayn al-Arab, and taking the north eastern side Qamishli and Malikiya in a Euphrates style shield way back in 2015/16. For their unwillingness to act, the Americans will push forward with Kurdish independence. From that point forward, YPG / PKK attacks will be commonplace in Southern Turkey as these same Kurds will start to push for the Turkish land and those Kurdish people to also be able to join Kurdistan. These Kurdish fighters will then be empowered because of their safe haven Kurdistan that will give them immunity if not a safe place to hide. This means nothing but eventual destabilization for south eastern side of Turkey. If Turkey does nothing, they will ultimately have to go on the defensive and start building much more border walls to prevent Kurdish infiltration, which will be a grave economic expense to police. Ultimately having to concede to allowing large swaths of Turkish land to be given to Kurdistan. The US might even pressure Turkey to do so. To note that the Gulen revolt was a US backed coup which backfired and we still haven't really seen a Turkish reaction other then their internal cleaning and grip.

Your scenario would be indeed correct, but you fail to account for the agency of the other parties, who also have significant military might and who will likely attempt to prevent such an outcome. US "military might" is weak in Kurdish territory – it's mostly air support (which all the other parties have as well), military hardware manned by glorified militias, and a meagre force of special units. The US has no land or sea route by which to send in reinforcements, should Iraq and Turkey decide to prevent it (as they likely would in the case of independent Kurdistan). The only real might USA has in the region is diplomatic one – all the bases they build have only two purpoes: air support for Kurds and a deterrent to Turkish and Syrian offensives, since should such a base get obliterated, it would spark an international incident. At the same time, however, America isn't actually willing to commit itself to a war should Kurds get attacked, especially not when Russia is heavily involved. Right now, both Iraq and Syria are busy cleaning up ISIS and "moderate" remnants, and USA has so far not put forth an official demand for Kurdish independence – after the terrorists are removed and USA starts pushing for Rojava, it is quite possible that Assad and others will call their bluff and simply attack Kurds.

I am also quite curious as how the hell are they going to sell Kurdistan, when the vast majority of Kurdish territory in Syria is not, in fact, inhabited by Kurds.

I wholeheartedly agree that no party in the region will allow an independent Kurdistan. Even the Kurds know this, so I'm expecting them to settle for a solution not too dissimilar to Iran. The way they've been complying with the SAA as of late leads me to think that if they haven't hashed things out already, the Kurds are at least leaning towards some form of reunification over independence. Of course, I could be dead wrong, but I'm of the belief that a handful of US bases, while a nice gesture, isn't going to prevent much in the long run.
Assuming everything goes off without a hitch, they'll hold a sham vote, say the Syrians really did hate evil dictator Assad after all and plow right through with it. Of course, they'll ignore the ethnic purges committed by Kurds and the flight of natives to Syria, producing an economic downturn, resulting in a greater seizure of Syrian oil reserves by American corporations. In essence, it'll be Ukraine all over again.

Just wanted to drop this here, /sg/ is one of the last bastions of quality on 8ch.

hahahahahaha

I just want to point out that there are less than 50 km to Deir Ez-Zor

ISIS must be furious that Ma'adan is going to become victim of another pocket. Not only were they outmaneuvered by the Tigers, but nobody's even bothering fighting over their massively built up fortress town. It really shows their level of thinking that they're raiding to the west, instead of trying to break through the salient. That said, it's not like they have much life left; Suknah's bound to fall within the next week and it's a clear run on DeZ from there. With the level of (((Coalition))) and RUAF bombing up and down the Euphrates, I doubt they have much fight left in them at all. Can't wait for the SAA to push into DeZ oil fields while the SDF continues to play tiddly winks with ISIS in Raqqa.

The US has MEU and seaborne Carrier Battle Groups, U.S. Navy’s George H.W. Bush Carrier Strike Group (CSG) is constantly close to Syria. While NATO Maritime Group 2 (SNMG2) is permanently stationed at the Mediterranean Sea. Russia themselves also has a Battle Group off the Syrian coast excluding an aircraft carrier. The US can upscale reactions within 24 hrs and can relocate massive forces within 72 to 164 hrs across the planet and gain air dominance in a region within 96-240 hrs. Since the Russian Syrian intervention, the US has a carrier group within striking distance. Since these bases consist of Air power and FOB's with extensive artillery positions, the basic work that Marines usually do has already been achieved. Merely up scaling for more troops and more air assets is simply required.

The Kurdish aren't asking at this point, they went around Iraq and Syria's back and are now groveling to western feet. If the West chooses to intervene and backs their independence, then the region is shit out of luck. While they could resist militarily speaking, if the US is there with NATO it will give them validation to put actual boots on the ground and then Assad and the hostile Iraqi government gets regime changed through invasion. The US has been desperate to sell a middle eastern war but is incapable.

Kurdish coalitions have already expressed the same multicultural cancer support to other minorities within what they consider their region. Leading representatives of the Christians, Yizidi's and others have expressed their support for joining Kurdistan and it's referendum elections.

Kurdish-led administration in Syria sets election dates:
BEIRUT (Reuters) - The Kurdish-led administration in northern Syria has set dates for local council and regional assembly elections, an official said on Saturday, in an apparent move to consolidate its growing autonomy.

Kurdish groups and their allies control swathes of northern Syria in areas held by the U.S.-backed Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF), an alliance of militias spearheaded by the Kurdish YPG. But formal self-government by the Kurds there alarms Turkey, which regards the YPG and the dominant Syrian Kurdish political party as extensions of the Kurdistan Workers Party or PKK which has waged a three-decade insurgency against Ankara.

Elections will be held in late summer for bodies running local communities, in November for bodies running larger areas and next January for the region as a whole, the Kurdish official said via a social networking feed. The dates and rules for conducting the vote were agreed by a council set up in December to form governing institutions and prepare for elections.

The dominant Kurdish groups in northern Syria have carved out self-governing regions since early in the civil war, but they say they are not seeking independence from Damascus. Syrian President Bashar al-Assad has tolerated Kurdish control over parts of the country but says he opposes the decentralized federal system they espouse and has described their ruling councils as "temporary structures".

Source:
reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-syria-kurds-idUSKBN1AE0LQ

fucking hoholmaps

cmon Tiger, cross the river, cut them off

boiiii

wew finally some fine maneuvers after all this city fighting

I can't wait for Assad to stabilize the country.

Obama, Hillary, John Kerry and McCain are going to cry bitch tears! Not to mention the calls for prosecuting the war criminals!

Why the butthurt, megoonka?

McCain isn't

Add Mattis and Brett McGurk to that list as well

hopefully he is dead

t. D&C (((modnigger)))

The Iranian leader is already called a president and is elected in national elections. If you meant the ayatollah then he is also elected by the counsel of elders or whatever they call it who are themselves chosen by the clergy. Iran really is a functioning theocratic republic and not a tinpot dictatorship.

rt.com/news/398019-putin-us-diplomats-sanctions/
archive.fo/HkxRp

y u mad tho

By the way in case anyone is wondering, by "diplomats" they mean CIA agents. There's an election coming up in 2018.

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Don't worry Putin, it's just 6,000,000D chess by our 'God Emperor'.

t. chesscuck

mods here definitely have a controlled narrative and obviously try and D&C any thread with a narrative they cant control, see

Get your eyes checked chaim, those genetic problems really did a number on you
That's a video of the Russian navy

y u mad tho?

Fuck off Imkikefy.

see

stop breathing my air you heathen

This only further confirms that mods are chesscucks and Holla Forums anime shitposters.

Gas the mods.

They got shrekt because they made the mistake of trusting the Jordanian liason to properly communicate their presence to the base security. It was almost like the scene from Dr Strangelove where the army attacks the SAC base.

how can one outjew the jew? so far from what i know mods have been recruited only by other mods via facebook where they were goyfriends. to become a mod without the chesscuck rethoric youd have to pull somesubverisive shit.
other than that you can solve the problem by either spamming the board to change the consensus and paradigm like the chesscucks are trying to do on /sg/, or just wait them out which is pointless

the only reason /sg/ managed to hold out this long (unlike most other generals) despite mods being against it is because so many people on pol arent cucked and wouldnt take kindly /sg/ getting killed.

God damn these sand niggers are annoying. It's like they only know 3 words, and 2 of them are "allahu" and "ackbar". They're like orcs that think painting things red will make them go faster; if they just chant things enough the tank will blow up.

New South Front

what jewery is this?

It's only a pocket when it's surrounded by enemies user.

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>ISIS pretending that it isn't just a tool for more (((western))) intervention in the Middle East

kek. saved

Watching these forces attempt to fight Assad and the Russians is like watching gnats against hornets at this point.

ISIL
Didn't have a chance.

If the military leaders of ISIL/ISIS had any sense, they would have fallen back to much more defensive positions MONTHS AND MONTHS AGO!

It confirmed for me that ISIL is nothing but a straw-man force when their military movements and tactics showed that they served as nothing more than cannon fodder and a distracting military force incapable of real front line warfare.

(((ISIL))) have served there purpose of acting and creating the maelstrom intended unfortunately.

Assad is on the way to Victory,

But think about the cost of it all in comparison to what was expended by the agitators (((Israel))) (((USA))) (((Europe)))

Syria has now been carved up. I believe it was intended to be carved into 3 portions, the West from north to south, the Eastern territory to an islamic state, and the north to the kurds.

Hypothesis; Some force-recon detachment just drove around and got to the bridge, which caused ISIS units in that pocket to panic and just yolo-rush out of there. Force recon detachment was then either destroyed or they disengaged and decided to let Russian and Syrian airforce to interdict those moving ISIS forces.

Either way, it caused ISIS front line defenses to collapse, if we assume that bulk of their defenses in that built up area was oriented towards the main road to north west.

Their forces act like a complete guerrilla army with little training, communication, and command centers to function. It's almost like… someone else is doing that for them. And they are just a facade acting as a puppet… Hmmm…

Any military leader or person wise to strategy, would see that they left themselves wide open to be 'rolled up'. After Turkey entered the combat arena in Syria. ISIL would have been able to successfully keep and control much of their territory if they fell back to defensive positions. Now… I'm not saying that they are literally leaving themselves WIDE OPEN. But, what I'm saying is that their (((military leaders))) are only stalling… and choosing specific positions to create friction for the enemy, but never able to stop them when it comes down to it. So, stalling for what though? North Korea? Another 9/11? Hmmm?

TBH that aircraft carrier looked utterly abandoned, they probably bought it themselves to shrekt it for the video propaganda purposes, where the fuck were the escort frigates?

Also those explosions were fake as fuck.

the aircraft carrier was a outfited expired cargo ship, and it was a live fire excersise.
fyi the US ran a wargame recently where they simulated the iranian atttack boat swarm (as in the video) assault against a carrier group, and the carrier team suffered such a humiliating defeat that the wargame was "reset" with a weaker attacker and a stronger defence and with predetermined menouvers, so that the "good guys" won the match. somewher in the thread some user mentioned this and gave a sauce, to lazy to look for it.
as for the last part with the shoah its an israeli propaganda video with the message "oy vey you wanna prevent anuddah shoah? join IDF"

It's likely just the site admin being retarded with his map painting

They are doing two things:
1) stalling Assad and giving more time for US to have a pretext to be in Syria
2) scrubbing evidence. While the leadership is heavily CIA/Mossad, the lower ranks aren't – the ones who know important things need to be quietly disposed of, and those who are in on the whole thing need time to arrange new identities and quietly jump the ship right into luxurious retirement – all those agents didn't spend years in a desert shithole among radical headchoppers just for their usual salary. They're likely going to swim in money for the rest of their lives, all to make sure they don't talk and to show the other agents that doing all this shit is worth it. None of this would be possible if there were documents about their activities left behind – all those traces need to be gotten rid of, and all those agents have to fake their own death. Just notice the various high ranking ISIS "dying" in random airstrikes over the past few months.

Wow! What an astute observation! With your keen skills of deduction I can tell that you must have been at the top of you class!

scrncapped

Slow news day?

In other words, yes, a slow new days.

Syrian Minister of Defense Stated: The Tiger Forces who with support of Tribal forces have completed a first stage of a several smaller succesfull operations in eastern Raqqa. In the last 3 days, the successfully captured Al-Dhiyabat, Al-Jabaly, Al-Musatahat, Al-Rabiat, Al-Rahbi, Al-Sabkhat, Hawijah Shannan, Ghanim Ali, and Shamrat. Including many oil wells. In total a region of some 90 square kilometers of land was taken from ISIS along the Euphrates river. In total some 330 ISIS vehicles were destroyed and a large number of ISIS fighters were killed and several hundred were confirmed to be wounded, exact figures are still unknown. Some POW's were taken and are being interrogated for intelligence. The operations of the past week~ in eastern Raqqa had several loses who are under reported, it is estimated some 15 Syrian soldiers lost their lives and many dozens of soldiers were injured including Colonel Younis al-Yunis who hit a IED in his truck.

What's to be done about Idlib? Westerners might want to turn it into another "autonomous region" like they're trying with Kurds

That's exactly my point. They are just stalling due to the tactics they are using. If they actually wanted to hold onto their regions long term they would be employing completely different tactics and defensive positions.

The pretext for USA going to war with boots on the ground in Syria has been out the door since Trump came into office. It's now entered back into the shadow war category, just under cold war.

Syria has been severely weakened compared to it's pre-civil war state and will likley remain unstable for another 10 years.

The investment by the Western forces in opposition to Russia/Syria/Iran/China wasn't as much as the cost that Syria and it's allies had to pay.

The Western forces 'won' the moment Turkey entered Syria, giving them future pretexts if needed to 'assist' their allies, as the Kurds wouldn't be enough alone, BUT they expected the cost of Syria/Iran/Russia to be much greater, which to them… is a loss (Especially because of Aleppo).

There isn't much left for in the realm of evidence, but leaked sources and underground material will eventually rise I'm sure in the next few years.

Like I said before, they wanted to chop and split Syria into three, possibly four regions post civil war.

HOWEVER – There is, I believe… and underlying plan to help aggregate and accelerate a context against Iran and Syria in another 4-6 years.

With Israel being the 'victim' against Iran and Syria. Allowing Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Israel, and it's western friends to remove Russian allies in the M.E.

twitter.com/Ali_Kourani/status/892789149656375297
lmao

ANNA News report
youtube.com/watch?v=yZvgl8Qrazk

Idlib has, thankfully, solved itself, courtesy of Nusra (or HTS, or Al Qaeda, or many other names). The faction in control is recognised as a terror group by the West and as such there won't be any diplomatic jew-jitsu regarding them. It will stall SAA for quite a bit, however.

That's where you are wrong. When Obama admin was in their final months, they used reapers to bomb extensive C&C of top HTS [al'queda] and ISIS in Idlib. HTS fell apart and began internal fights with FSA and other factions. ISIS pocket without leader ship then had some final internal battles and eventually picked up their shit and left Northern Hama/Idlib to join ISIS in Deir'Ezzor. It was clear that the administration wanted no witnesses left to tell the tale of collusion with US intelligence, as that would be treason per US law.

how does that counter anything I wrote?

You're stating it solved itself, it didn't. When Obama knew Hillary did not win, they took clean up action to shatter the support and the top down command and control structure that was winning these terror group proxies the war against Assad. They are now rife with internal struggles to the benefit of SAA/Russia and sometimes they make packs or merge but it always falls apart because of internal conflicts, internal power grabs from certain warlords or other factions scheming against them.

Recently southern Syria FSA merged into one group from several factions, this following Trumps direct result of retracting support for this proxy group and moving it's support to the SDF forces.

Had Hillary won, nothing would have changed under the Russian intervention and Hillary would have doubled down with more proxies and more escalation towards Russia, perhaps even WWIII escalation type events. They would have gradually declared no fly zones above their FSA or other Idlib groups and continually shot down anything that came close to their proxies while yelling how Russia wants to start world war 3 and the poor poor chemical attacks after staged chemical attack.

I was actually reffering to HTS obliterating Ahrar Al Sham in the past weeks

Sorry if this is off topic, but to the actual Syrians in this thread: What do you think about Pan-Arabism and a potential dissolution off Syria as a nation-state somewhere in the future?
Do you think Syria has developed a real sense of nationhood since the becoming independent from the Ottomans/France in its current borders, or should it dissolve in favour of a larger Arab or Levantine nation?

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Just asked an Iraqi historyfag familiar with Pan-Arabism/Baathism and the culture/politics in Syria and Iraq
Here were his responses, also an interesting proposal about a Russian backed Syria/Iraq/Lebanon union
pastebin.com/u3Nc60KZ

wew, FSA/SDF rebels eternally BTFO

Wow, thank you and Kebab(kek), that quite some conversation.
So he thinks of something like a smaller Greater Syria or Mashriq(like pic related)? That's pretty interesting, I knew the region was basically artificically divided into states by the French, British and later Israelis, but it'd be pretty cool if the cultural links that existed in the levantine region still existed so many decades later:
I'm pretty interested on the whole topic of nationalism, and think it could be really benificial for the region to unite in a way that Italy or Germay did in the 1800s, among coherent cultural borders.
Anyway thanks for the respose, that's already more than I expected.

pretty much what i think and there is even more detail on that if you like, im the kebab btw

Rollin rollin rollin
keep Green Buses rollin
Keep Green Buses Rollin Assad!

Don't try to understand 'em
Just Drive rope 'n brand 'em

Movin movin movin
though they're disapprovin
keep Jihadis movin Assad!

Move 'em on, head 'em up
head 'em up, move 'em on
move 'em on, head 'em up Assad

This is good goy thinking; you can win if you ethnically cleanse them—just ask the Romans, the Americans, or modern day Israel.

t'd be pretty cool to know more about the topic. I see the conversation was mostly about the history of the region. Do you happen to know how much the existance of the modern states hs shaped the natonal identity of the people living in the fertile crescent region?
Is there still any potential for a pan-nationalist movement or are the people loyal to the modern states by now?
I'm from Germany, and a unification of our country and Austria has become pretty much impossible after WWII. Not too long ago Austrians would have considered themselves Germans, while now they have a pretty strong national Idendity. So I guess a similar thing could have easily happened in the many years that Syria, Iraq etc. have been independent nations.

It'd be pretty cool to know more about the topic. I see the conversation was mostly about the history of the region. Do you happen to know how much the existance of the modern states hs shaped the natonal identity of the people living in the fertile crescent region?
Is there still any potential for a pan-nationalist movement or are the people loyal to the modern states by now?
I'm from Germany, and a unification of our country and Austria has become pretty much impossible after WWII. Not too long ago Austrians would have considered themselves Germans, while now they have a pretty strong national Idendity. So I guess a similar thing could have easily happened in the many years that Syria, Iraq etc. have been independent nations.

just add me on steam to chat
because this is a lengthy subject

Huh, don't have steam unfortunately, so I have to install that first. Do you happen to have time sometime later?

i have the time now but ill be brief on this

mostly the borders that was drawn by the Sykes–Picot Agreement was to help the british and the french not to step on each other toes
iraq was always known but its many names and sham region was always the sham region

and i would say its still there in modern times, a proof of that is Antoun Saadeh greater syria movement
the thing is in the fertile crescent region we acknowledge that our renaissance was denied after the fall of the Islamic caliphate thanks to the fucking Turkish roaches (just our luck)
each time there was a chance of that happening some catastrophe happen or some collectivist or empirical shithead come to ruin this
in this case the pan-arabic unionist killed most of the SSNP leadership because "it will ruin the pan-Arab unity to fight israel" which was always confusing because they include Sudan and other African nations too

syria is again doubling on this as well like some edits to their constitution regarding the mentioning of how Syria is "Arabic" and also leaving the arabian league seat empty even when Egypt is trying to persuade them back

i would say the situation of the middle east is a fertile ground again for this unity to happen because not only we share same religious secularism values and rich history and culture
we also shared the same plight of fighting isis having a common enemy in the gulf sunni and the sunni nations brought us even closer in solidarity

i wouldn't actually compare it to this situation since there was some competition between both of your countries and both attained different achievements
also Austria beat you into convincing the world that Hitler is German and Arnold Schwarzenegger is Austrian
they always seem one step ahead somehow

that map is bullshit
;^)

Thanks, that's pretty informative.
Ofc the situation betweet germany and austria isn't really comparable, if anything it would be closer to pan-Arabism, in that the goal of german nationalism was to unite all the german-speaking people.
I think ideally, especially if you don't want to antagonize the entire international community a untited Greater-Syrian Nation would have to incorporate Jews, Kurds, Lebaniese Christians etc. too, sort of like the french approach to nationalism that tried to incorporate every people living in an area with clear-cut natural borders; the Cascadia movement would be another example of such an approach I guess.
You're definitely right that the fight against ISIS could bring Syria and Ira(and through theHezbollah involvement in the war and the many Syrian refugees in the country maybe even Lebanon).

kurds have no legitimacy in most of the land they took from isis in northern syria they pretty much using USA and liberated syrians from isis as a leverage to acquire more lands also to create a base of their operation against krg and talabni and turkey
also according to the league of nations laws that set syrian borders, it confirms that kurds are a minority that is just a pastoral people moving to syria
kurds have no trace in syria before 1948

also the idea behind fertile crescent union is to build a country on nationality and religions secularism, Christians of Lebanon,Iraq and syria are an essential part of our community
religion is simply not a way to distinguish people here as observed on how Lebanese christians join hizbollah its pretty much just labels at this point we have a common enemy in the political threat and ambition of turkey,israel and the gulf
we are just not that organized against them
until someone come along like hitler i guess

Oh yeah I'm aware that kurdish people in Syria greatly profited of cooperating with the Ottoman empire in the Assyrian genocide,
but eventually, like with the Jews now living in Palestine, we'll have to forget the injustices of the past and try to reconcile the interests of the people lliving in the region right now,
even if this might be difficult while much of those responsible for the atrocities of the past are still alive. But only by incorporating Jews and now Kurds you can take away the Argument the USA uses to supporting Allies against their "enemies" in order to prop up states like Israel.
The only viable stategy I see against this ivide and conquer is not to let yourself be divided anymore.

ill drink arak to that
but im not forgetting that they slaughtered a third of my countrymen

Forgetting about it would be horrible anyway. Thank you friend for taking the time to answer to me, knowing the opinion of people actually living in the region is pretty invaluable.

I suspected you were the Iraq user from /k/. Mesopotamia is Greek and 'between two seas' would be Mesothalassia, or Intermarium (but the Poles already used it en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intermarium ).

This is some shitty civnat thinking, user. You're advising to fight the PR war against someone who owns the media – if one pretext is no longer applicable, they'll just find another. Muh poor opressed jews is no longer applicable? Well then let's call the enemies undemocratic and "liberate" them. The country is fully democratic? Call it a Russian proxy that cheated at elections and "liberate" it. They can pull anything out of their ass as pretext because they control the media, and USA doesn't give absolutely any kind of fuck about international law, unless it can leverage it for its own advantage. "Incorporating jews and kurds" yeah, right, that would work so well.

this works for me
many thanks

gold.

twitter.com/Extranewstv/status/893059979665707008
There are reports of Egypt apparently working out a truce deal with Russia over rebel held areas of rural Homs, no English reports yet

this tbh
However outright genociding them isn't an option at first, an Iran type solution where both have no political influence, the Jews are not allowed to spout their holocaust narrative and the Kurds are kept on a tight leash and not allowed to form militias is the best initial solution with the population slowly being assimilated, those that refuse could be "dissapeared" which the Mukhabarat should be more than capable of. Most Iranian Jews are Haredim/Neturei Karta which consider the state of Israel as an affront to God since it isnt supposed to exist until after the coming of a 2nd Jewish messiah and they hold holohoax exposure conferences yearly.

New South Front video
youtube.com/watch?v=_qqjWidwY-A

Do ISIS-occupied areas still have any functioning civilian infrastructure?
If so, are they still maintaining it in any capacity?

Video related, a deal was signed in Cairo
Russian military police will monitor ceasefire zones in Homs, ISIS and Al-Nusra fighters in this area are not included in the ceasefire
youtube.com/watch?v=Z7D8Oprsxqo

Certain infrastructure like dams and water plants are maintained by government employees that stayed behind and ISIS mostly doesn't bother in order to simply maintain some degree of public order/sanitation in some areas

they keep the infrastructure intact since they have no reason to destroy it, up until the enemy draws near. Remember that they tried (and still try, to some degree) actually govern the territory they took, collecting taxes etc. They're also trying to get good PR with the population in order to recruit more terrorists. Destroying the infrastructure just because wouldn't make much sense.

Desert Hawks Brigade sidbanded
they were a pretty efective force, thats too bad.

to recap the whole deal:

What business does a Sunni nation like Egypt have in Syria and why is it being allowed to make deals relating to Syrian territory?

I'd also like to know this. All I managed to find is that including Egypt was initiated by Russia

it probably has something to do with the muslim brotherhood and saudi arabia (they backed it in sanctioning Qatar).
anyway egypt is getting alot warmer with russia

Kek
Also somebody should just glass (((Somalia)))

lol no. they fucked up US and UN peacekeepers and give china and russia pretext to send ships to the coast of east africa.

If pic related in your post is true, then answer me this?

Why does nobody think ahead? Why don't the Strong Men band together and kill everything that lives so that no more Weak Men ever arise again? Why not just make everything suck even more forever so that no more Good Times ever happen?

Why does nobody think ahead? Why allow life to arise just so the pointless cycle can go on?

Reports of a new local ceasfire in Homs
Rebels started laying down arms and accepting amnesty in parts of Homs after russian forces came to supervise the negotiations
intermagazin.rs/senzacija-u-siriji-sever-homsa-polaze-oruzje-rusi-napravili-dogovor-sa-teroristima-videomapa/
*article in serbian

because that is the folly of man.
with anything great that doesent get destroyed from the outside,it gets destroyed from the inside.
revolutions turn into oppressions,
democracy turns into bureocracy,
etc.
younger generations dont have the same values as older ones, as they were born into a world created before them, and were not a part of thechange that led to it or the times before it.
its and entirely different rethoric.
the only way to beat this is by being sectarian and scheming by nature, so theres your anwser why a (((ceartain group))) of people managed to get this "far" in world society trough millenia

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Their warmth with Russia means nothing. They gave two strategic islands to Saudi which means Israel gets more influence on ships coming and going to Palestine.

theyre getting warm with russia because they want to be flexible in alliances. they know the US and gulf states are dangerous (aeab spring) so they need a backup.
iran is ofcourse off the rable, but russia is perfect since it appears as a "neutral" outside force, plus it has turkey in their pocket meaning no muslim brotherhood problems (which is why they also supported sauds against qatar)
right now egypt is just trying to be friends with everyone and stay out of trouble, seeing how proxy wars and twrrorism is all around them

except they're getting fairly involved in Lybia and pissed Sudan off quite a bit because of it. Egypt is slowly shaking off the drowsiness from the coup and starting to look abroad, thinking which side to join.

SUKHNAH NOW

With that said, here is a map of the current situation. After Sukhnah, ISIS resistance should be far lower, and with the lack of any bigger towns on the road to DeZ, the coast will be far more clear. Unless the SAA decides that the Salami front needs to be closed of course. But the disbanding of the Desert Hawks brigade (who have been very shitty lately and deserved the axing, they just sat back and chewed up money like the dumb merceneries they were) shows otherwise.

New R&U video

They might also try quickly connecting the Raqqa and Sukhna fronts before heading to DeZ, as we know ISIS is focusing all its manpower on DeZ right now in an attempt to take over the whole city before SAA arrives. They won't succeed of course, but they'll be a nuisance and cause more fights and causalities. It would be safer to prevent those in Salami from running away and heading to DeZ. But then again it wouldn't be easy to escape from those mountains in that case eother, and such a large pocket might strain the front lines even more.

I heard the ceasefire was broken in some parts. Any sources?

yeah, nusra is trying to get the fighting going again because aslong as theres peace the syrin forces have time to regroup and redeploy and prepare new offensives. nusra doeent do those because

Which ceasefire? No. 5,999,999 or No. 6,000,000? The instant a ceasefire is signed, whether at Astana with major powers or not, it is broken by "pro-western rebels". Remember when (((they))) used to refer to them as such? Bashar the Lion does.

the general ceasfire zones are still up, according to some interview by assad recently, there are clashes however in some parts however, yet you need to take into account that you mostly only hear news about clashes, not greenbuses and shit, so it appears s theres mostly clashes going on

New South Front report
youtube.com/watch?v=1Hq0QjK1AzU

Burgers are at it again, PMU troops in Iraq bombed near the border with Syria "mistakenly" by the US
twitter.com/A_Ozkok/status/894638682178801666
twitter.com/Syria_Hezb_Iran/status/894615041319763968

another source
twitter.com/WaelHussaini/status/894645180229406721

The weak men are the strong men's children. The strong men rid the world of difficulties so their descendants can take it easy, thus, creating the inevitability of hard times. This is not that hard of a concept.

anyone got the webm of that german girl that went to iraq to marry an ISIS fighter and then got captured and raped by Iraqi soldiers yet?

makes me laugh whenever dumbasses like her and that jew that went to best korea do something retarded and it backfires tenfold

Iraq's relation with Syria,Iran & most importantly Russia just improved. Way to go zogbots.

They were Iran-backed shiite militias fighting with Iraq against ISIS near Al-Tanf. ISIS happened to attack that very area today as well and killed many Iraqi soldiers (68, they claim). All this happened very near Al-Tanf, a border crossing between Iraq and Syria that happens to be under Iraqi control. USA wanted to prevent Syria and Iraq sharing border so much that they sent massive amounts of military hardware to local rebels and even built a military base there, bombing any approaching Syrian forces several times. Syrian army had bypassed the area since then and controls Syria-Iraq border to the east, but Iraq does not so there is still not a free route between Iraq and Syria. For the past months, ISIS had, of all the places in Iraq, decided to attack this border crossing many times with extreme ferocity, devoting large amounts of personnel and hardware, with USA not bombing them a single time there (even though they have this neat military base with a big airfield and many jets a stone throw away). All despite the crossing having literally no strategic or economic or any value for ISIS whatsoever. I'm adding a map for refference.

There's no way this was an actual accident. USA did this deliberately, and the entire situation seems to scream US-ISIS cooperation.

The Great Satan; not even once.

How the fuck do they get away with this? It's about time the SAA or Russian airforce 'accidentally' bomb these fucks.

The US has the advantage of being a global super power. You can't just bomb their artillery positions and not expect a strong response. The only solution is to get around them; which is what the SAA did precisely. Unfortunately, the PMU is considered by the US an Iranian proxy, and therefore they can't let them open the way for Iran to directly arm Hezbollah.
It's all kikery to the max.

we can just wait for ISIS to get purged from iraq, so that the iraqi forces establish the final link in the iran-iraq-syria-lebanon corridor, and then wait for the US to go full autist with funding alqaeda again to stop militias like the local hezbollah and mahdi army.
the problem the US has is that most northeastern iraq is shia, which means the US will only potentially gain control over areas in iraqi kurdistan, around kuwait and major sunni southwestern areas like basra etc.

Sadly Iraq doesn't plan to do that any time soon. The next target is Tel Afar pocket, and I assume the Al Hawijah pocket will be next. they probably want to control Kurd border as soon as possible so that Kurds can't stake out more territory

the northern areas are crucial, ofcourse.
but the US doesent have any proxy on the ground in the southwest, where SAA already linked up with the PMU once.
unless the US can pull Alqaeda 2: the moderate coalition partner edition out of their ass those border areas will be just waiting for the iraqi forces to take them

twitter.com/OIRSpox/status/894777003571904512

we dindu nuffin

forgot pic

Didn't SAA and Iraqi forces share a border already?

Some sources claimed so, others claimed their didn't. Seeing as how Iraqis get attacked near Tanf every other week by ISIS, and how there were no reports about an offensive or advances in the area by PMU, I doubt they do.

did and didnt, the border area is mostly desert, so even a small ISIS raid/mortar attack can change everything.
its why the US took that al-tanf are, because they knew that you need settlements and roads to hold land.
but from what ive heard syrian forces are already dug in in their makeshift bulldozer outposts there.

GOTTA GO FAST

The Ghouta pocket is absolutely showcasing the complete untrained incompetence of the SAA command in that region if not the generals on the ground of the Syrian Republican Guard. To attack straight into a front where the jihadists scum are fighting "moderate" rebels themselves who have been sitting in extremely fortified networks of tunnels for the past 5 years is nothing short off stupidity.

Why were they able to launch so many bombardments after losing so many men. Why not just op for the mass scale bombardment in the first place and then send in the cavalry.

Southern Damascus was regained by the 4th division with merely tanks and other hardware with artillery as support to destroy a specific area that shot them with TOW's. These tanks would constantly be engaging and shooting buildings and turning almost everything into swiss cheese while only when there was a firm grasp on a street/block did the infantry come in and charge. The ANNA news network had video documented these strategies extensively. Why the command structure choose to storm massive hordes of men at an area filled with tunnels, trenches, hidden pillboxes and interlinked buildings is beyond me. This is not Allepo where defensive lines and buildings were sporadically created in order to hold entire districts. Ghouta is filled with street after street with such defensive lines and reinforced buildings. There were distant buildings who had clear line of sight for kilometers and were engaging with heavy weapons upon infantry. The Qabun district was fairly easy to capture due to it's more openness and it's fruit tree yards.

Hundreds so far in this new offensive have died and they have gained nothing! These kills have invigorated and restored hope for the scum in the Ghouta pocket. These fucks are pocketed, they aren't going anywhere, even now that Russia has a northern watchpost/deescalation/pocket creation. These jihadis are driven underground and were desperate at the end of 2016, they've been resupplied arms by smuggling in lots of arms and goods which was finally put a stop to due to the army patrolling with police.

Once the eastern side of Syria has been recaptured back from ISIS and driven back to Iraq, who is playing the long game in regards to ISIS, then these massive forces along with Tiger and Tribal forces can crush the remaining pockets in the south, with the Tigers experience in close street urban combat this would not take long. While leaving Idlib for last. I do NOT comprehend what the 4th armored division is doing in Ghouta nor what the 105th SRG is doing. They changed tactics since 2015/16 and it's costing way to many lives.

I don't get the incompetence, just sit back with a tank on the highway and start blasting the nearest buildings continually for months, the population will move away from it while luring fighting who want to take put shots at the tanks untill the areas is turned into dust, then shoot the next building and repeat while gradually moving forward. Take a hint from WWII, when Russia attacked Germanic defensive lines, the germans killed battalion after battalion that was charged at them, the Germans lost ground because they simply ran out of ammo which was the only reason for their retreat to other lines, but the Germans killed millions upon millions who charged at them. Or when the Germans tried to attack the Russians in their own heavily armored city of Stalinggrad killing lots of German troops.

If the Syrians want to attack this fucking Ghouta pocket, they should attack from the east which is far less dense and gain the two hills for oversight and fire control within the pocket, making rapid troop re-deployment for reinforcment within the pocket impossible and forcing them to go further on the defense. The attack should be executed on more open terrain on the north east of the pocket, where defense is far more difficult and where attackers have open areas with sporadic building cover to easily take it. At that point, they start separating the pocket in smaller pockets, especially Duma from Utaya and Nshabiyah and then cut right through the pocket in the less urban areas taking Bayt siwa and Mudayrah. When they become separated then the desperation starts setting in.

I think SAA has a ceasefire with some of the rebels, so they can't go from east or north. There had also been numerous attempts to advance in the rural areas, but had no success.

This is pretty much bullshit TBH, yes the Russians did do a lot of stupid shit and waste men early in the war but the kill/death ratio wasn't as disparate as some like to make it seem
David Glantz does a entire lecture and wrote a book about this
sti.clemson.edu/publications-mainmenu-38/commentaries-mainmenu-211/cat_view/33-strom-thurmond-institute/153-sti-publications-by-subject-area/158-history

New R&U Videos
youtube.com/watch?v=pwJfZdjXDCE

So Syrian Warfare is a pretty realistic game.

because ghouta is of much lesser importance than say the palmyra or raqqa fronts, and the best commanders and units are always deployed on those. the terrorists cant launch offensives, so theyre just a token.
the ghouta neighborhoods in damascus were radical sunni ghettoes before the war, and alot of peoplestill living there still support the terrorists. along with being dug in and prepared for attrition and assymetrical warfare the terrorists are in an absolute advantage when it comes to defending the streets, especially if the syrian forces dont want to indiscriminatley bombard civillian housing and provoke another Aleppo and madaya or whatever in the global scene

New South Front
youtube.com/watch?v=6TmN9lXf-ZE

gotta keep em ISIS allies moving over the border to syria goy

Suknah had apparently not been fully captured yet. Also, big ISIS counteroffensive in southern desert

ANNA news report on a weapons/ammo manufacturing workshop operated by pro-Assad militias, looks like they're mostly making mortar shells and AK magazines
turn on captions for eng subtitles

>Kissinger: Defeating (((IS))) Could Lead to Iranian Empire

archive.fo/StGK9
tasnimnews.com/en/news/2017/08/09/1487031/kissinger-warns-trump-defeating-daesh-could-lead-to-iranian-empire

What is this retardation. Kissinger is disconnected from reality, only a complete moron would think this is how modern diplomacy works.

mass circumsisions in kurd areas
someone explain thi to me?

Marking them as Jew slaves obviously.

Probably for hygiene, sandniggers hate water as much as the Jews.

Kurds are Sunnis after all and the majority of Sunnis do practice circumcision, for both males and females

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The audacity of this kike.

ALL HAIL THE SSNP AND THE SHURIKEN SWASTIKA (Barely any fighting, just comfy music and footage)

Greater Syrian Reich when?

Were you born this way?

Sieg Heil

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hes a anarchofag from leftypol. the millenial anarchists and autists there cant accept that SDF is an american project to destabilise syria, so they go with strawmans such as

its pretty autistic there, leftypol has utterly no concept of geopolitics and diplomacy, all they care about is who sais hes doing a revolution and theyll suck his balls for it.

New South Front
youtube.com/watch?v=Dtx_PbfipP8

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