Varg Vikernes: Is he right in saying that Christianity is too jewish?

I mean at least he is living the dream. Even if the concept of God comes from a European consciousness inherited by the semites, is their influence on the concept enough for the religion to be purged completely?
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No.

Have you failed to notice that the most religious white countries (i.e. Central and Eastern Europe) are the ones most immune to (((them)))?

You mean the ones who also have some of the most prominent (non (((wiccan))) pagan movements and who simultaneously experienced communism? Also, the Golden Dawn has been an outright supporter of paganism since the 80's

NOBODY CARES ABOUT YOUR E-CELEB

IF YOU LIKE VARG, GOOD FOR YOU. WATCH VARG AND KEEP IT TO YOURSELF.

NO NEED TO BE SUCH A SHIT ANUS ABOUT IT.

Half true. Was it too Jewish at inception? Yes. Was it too Jewish when Constantine made it the official Roman religion? No. Was it too Jewish from about 400 to 1965 AD? No. It is too Jewish as of this very moment? Yes.

Wut?

he's right

lolwut

Poland, Lithuania, and Ukraine all had huge Jewish populations for centuries that dominated commerce and then they fell to communism which is Jewish as fuck. Poland still makes political hay with muh holocaust. Eastern Europeans are good people, but they aren't somehow immune to kike bullshit. Also, their resistance to EU mandated diversity has more to do with years of being pushed around by foreigners than it does with them being religious.

Christianity is influenced by paganism and Judaism. I prefer to dual-practice both religions and put emphasis on pagan aspects. Its difficult to revive old religious practices, but the mythology and morals survive and have been revitalised due to the renaissance. One shouldn't deviate from the social norm without good reason, and dual-practice allows you to deviate from the norm in the most minimal manner (risk mitigation, iterative changes) and maintain contact with Christian friends and relatives (social support.) I see this to be the least radical means of embracing our traditional religions without being alienated from the Christian parts of our society.

Suppose for the sake of argument he's correct:

You'll never convince the Christians on Holla Forums of that, so it's a pointless discussion to have.

This. Only sensible answer to the pagan question, while its diffifcult to create a new living tradition amongst neopagan sects due to the minimal amount of information we have on European paganism (due in part to church politics), its moral structure is still alive and well within Europeans via longstanding traditions still held in modern society. It is still preferable to alienate the semitic portions of faith away from the folk, but it is unnecessary to cause excessive infighting about the problem when their is a greater goal at hand.

That hasn't been the case since the rise of USSR obviously. Today the most religious members from those societies are little old ladies in the country side who stat pad the census. Hardly anything to be excited about.

Yes, that's sort of what I am doing. I am exploring paganism within the frame of Christianity, so that I am not going it alone, and can take some of my Christian fellowship along that path with me. It is social suicide to do things without support, so this is my way of minimising risk. It is an easy path to take because, for example, Christmastide is very easy to revert back to Yuletide.
That given, if there is a decent group of pagans in your area who are not degenerate, then that is also a viable option.

all semitic religions were started by inbred people.

Okay, I'm legitimately curious on how you accomplish this. Do you worship the Old Gods in private while wearing a cross in public? I put on a Christian facade to family and coworkers now because I can justify my obvious anti-semitism to them through bible quotes and Martin Luther.
Some of the best redpills can be pulled from the bible, like the jews being expelled from paradise and forced to roam the desert after sacrificing their babies to moloch after traveling through Pheonicia or jesus referring to the jews as the children of satan.

I turned away from religion a long time ago and only recently returned, not because I found salvation but because I realized that religion was one of the only traditions my family and people have held on to after all this time. I have a hard time holding back my hatred for the weak stance against aggressors i.e. turn the other cheek bullshit and I realize it enforces a slave mentality preventing people from realizing how great they can become on their own. Regardless of anons' views of Christianity, it (unfortunately) is one of the last remaining bonds that exists between "us" and the foreign hoards. Are there other people like this? I know I live a lie but I just try really hard to not be a degenerate and I know not all atheists are degenerates but I'm pretty certain all degenerates are atheists.

Christianity Islam judaism where so inbred they heard voices.

Arabic fan fiction (read: Islam) does not count.

"Fellow White People, we had no civilizations whatsoever before christianity!"

Christianity has been Europeanized over the centuries but yes, yes it is!

I live in a Lutheran country and I've been trying to drop Luther quotes about the Jews, but the face of modern Lutherism is so far removed from what Martin Luther wrote about that many people just say that Luther was an anti-semitic hatemonger, while still maintaining that they are Lutherans. Modern Lutherism is degenerate in many ways (gay priests, woman priests, refugees welcome, negro adoptions, etc.). People have no idea about Luther. Of course, if you told them about the Jews and convinced them Luther was right they would just say that Jews are ok if they become Christians.

lol you believe Mohammad.

Varg is trash.

This thread is trash.

Your weak-ass b8 is trash.

Try harder, you shill trash. Hidden and reported.

Trust me on this one, the actual nationalists in Eastern Europe see Christianity in it's current form as a problem.

The reason for that is because as a people, we can resists migrant propaganda, libshit subversion, and mindless leftism, because we have a living memory of where those things lead.

But when it comes to faith, religion and spirituality, a sphere where you are not supposed to be switching your allegiances as if they were clothes, we are very vulnerable. Christianity was a very strong force that kept us together and in many ways, motivated to keep on living. Now that well is poisoned with egalitarianism and how we should embrace and accept migrants.

It's a shitshow. The only way Christianity can survive this crisis is if it breaks even further apart. And I would support that, because the way the vatican handles this issue is despicable.

Notice how the kikes get out of the woodwork.

Where I live, there are three types of lutheran churches. The most cucked are the evangelical ones; they are responsible for basically all faggotry outside of the catholic church and the biggest refugee importers. The Missouri synod is also cucked but not as bad; but they are also huge jew sympathizers which is unforgivable. I claim Wisconsin synod. They make no apologies for Luther and the Christmas sermon was held in January because, as the pastor put it, "it was the jews who decided to celebrate christmas in december and we are not jews, we are christians. Jews have nothing to do with christianity." It was pretty sweet to see all the heads nodding in agreement. But unfortunately there was a nigger family there so that kinda ruined it.

First post every single time


It's not that Christianity is TOO Jewish. It's that Christianity IS Jewish.

Reminder that this is literally a leftypol tactic.
Fuck this thread though.

Shills use images and words people normally do not use here. It's obvious, the jew lies but is bad at lying.

More D&C. Find something better to do with your time.

You realise that slavic countries have strong pagan roots, right?

Lithuania and Poland especially.

Found the christcuck.

Again, find something better to do with your time.

Spot the female jew.

I personally despise Christianity for a variety of reasons but religion doesn't matter in the current year the same way it did a thousand years ago. Many of my allies and yours are going to be Christians and there's nothing we can do to change that. I'd much rather live in a land ruled by Christians than Moslems, Jews or commies. Besides, these threads always lead to some of the worst ignorance and autism found on Holla Forums. There's nothing productive about that shit.

If think the thread is d&c then why are you still here? Don't you have something better to do with your time? Maybe read your bible?


Unfortunately it does matter. Christians are not, and never will be "allies". Their only interest is preserving their religion.
That's some serious weakness or shilling right there.

Did you not read the entire post?
That's some serious retardation or shilling there.

Christianity, mainly as in Catholicism and Orthodoxy, have always been on life support because of their adaptations over the original pagan faiths of their respective lands, mixed in with Judean mythology and "philosophy" (if you can convince yourself a collection of desert shepherds' scribbles were philosophy). "Changing" your religion from these to your native pagan faith isn't that difficult if you know where Judaism is exactly expressed.

This becomes worse the more Judaized your religion becomes, e.g. Protestantism (sola scriptura, AKA even more Judaism) and Mormonism (WE WUZ jews). Don't get me started on the different batshit flavors of Israelisms out there (WE WUZ jews and WE STILL IS jews today).

Even if, in the end, you're not willing to be convinced after your findings, you will at least find out what is truly Christian in your belief and what's merely a mimicking of something entirely different.


Many consciously and willingly cucked to Christianity to gain more followers. Even its leader, who wrote (still accessible today) pagan poems, doesn't recognize the Hellenic faith as a legitimate religion. Whether these are legitimate beliefs or were adopted because of muh PR is up to debate.

Not with your shitty attitude, that's for sure.


This.

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This isn't a pro-Semitic cult thread at all. I promise goy! (((We))) Europeans never had a concept of God before they gave us one, right? So is it enough to burn buildings? Ignore the fact that the word God is a Germanic word for Godin.

Ignore the fact that Christiniaty, Judiasm, Communism and Islam are all slave cults. Let's talk about this fucking metal head degenerate who doesn't even care about his race.


This isn't something posted every day on 4chan at all.

We have no allies in race mixers. There is nothing you can do to change that.

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"European paganism" is arguably connected to Hinduism. He doesn't even know what the real European values are, because most of our values came from all over the globe, such as India, Mesopotamia, Israel, even China and Africa.

In fact all of our religions are entwined and have been for several millennia, since we recorded our culture and history. There's a global religion hiding under the masks of all these religions. I don't think it is wise to ignore any religion.. then again normies and other cattle aren't smart enough to swim between these religions. They're too easily captured by ideology.

I would like to see concepts like Samsara and Nirvana become more entwined with European paganism and Christianity. But the problem is these "masters of puppets" called church leaders.

You have it backwards:

Most of their values came from Indo-Europeans. These transfer of values include peoples like: India, Mesopotamia, Israel, even China and Africa

Lurk more. There are threads up right now that will tell you this.

He has 6 Aryan children. Well, he has 5 Aryan children, and he fathered one additional Aryan child that he didn't raise and is who now much older.

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This. Christianity has become pro-humanism, pro-multiracialism, pro-globalism, and pro-miscegenation. Christianity wants everybody to be a 'good Christian' and get along, not secure their homelands as ethno-states to prevent mixing with "their neighbor"'s blood.

Jews are normally quite good at lying. They wouldn't be alive if they weren't. However, their interpersonal skills do not appear to translate well into an anonymous platform like this where only the content of a post is judged.

100% correct, Cucktianity is a branch of Semitic traditions which are themselves degenerate versions of Indo-European beliefs warped so that they support Canaanite tribalism by way of slave morality. The entire memeplex is based on subservience rather than ascendance. Yeshua's reformation is no better, and certainly has nothing to do with Indo-European idealism. All of the traces of goodness in Cucktianity result from the incorporation of European religious practices during the subversive phase, after which Cucktians turned around and slaughtered all of the adherents of the true religions of Europe while destroying their legacies.

Semitic hegemony cannot be overthrown by those who worship a Semite and a Semitic deity while partaking in Semitic traditions. All Christcucks are race traitors.

but the meta religion is some african bullshit

It's not that simple.
All ideas came from all those places, including Europe.
Hinduism affected European values, but I also think European values would have affected Hinduism to a degree.

As I said, the masks cover the face of a global religion that has been present since widespread migration and trade has occurred.

No the whole world has been developing a global religion, it's progressed on new understanding and new mechanisms of philosophy.
And eventually they effect ALL religions.

It started in Africa, but it then developed globally and has influenced development through the exchange of memes.
Religions are like ways of thinking about the world around them.

Science has religious origins. And now modern religions will take it into account like we do with "esoteric kekism".

They are not. The problem is that people take everything they say as face value simply because they are jews.

Only those that "see" can spot the lies.

The rest don't drink the water.

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I don't want to worship the god of the semites, and follow desert iconography and traditions.
Judaism, Christianity, and Islam have no place in Europe.

To add to that:

That theory is irrelevant, the point is that memes spread and mutate to new ideas globally.
That's the global religion.

Retard, don't tell me what's simple when you have a simple 8th grade education. You're on Holla Forums now. Not your normal group of idiots.

Veddas created Hinduism. Hinduism is a bastardization of the Vedda Aryan thought.

And Veddas came from Ukraine/Romania and farther North.

Aryan religions were spread to the lesser races, and later corrupted. Our values came from our own people, who were spread across the globe.

Varg has some odd ideas, or at least expresses them in an unintuitive manner which can turn people away.
His ideas about tribalism versus civilization seems like retarded luddite nonsense, but what he actually means is that urbanites are decadent scum completely disconnected from nature who turn the land that they should regard as sacred into a desert. So, he wants people to abandon the city life and form more close-knit, traditional communities. This is also kind of similar to the MPC idea of SCALE; Varg wants to reduce the SCALE of human communities in order that the negative consequences of modern society (alienation, mass multiculturalism, balkanization, etc) can be avoided.
He opposes christianity because of it's non-european origins. He does not oppose the wealth of european-derived traditions such as easter, christmas, halloween etc. He just doesn't want to worship what was originally a jew god, because it's cucking. vid related.

Personally I think that christianity needs to be drastically reformed in order to serve our race in the future because as it is it will be a non-white religion in the next century if not sooner.

The NSDAP had the old Positive Christianity thing going which is the right idea.

Christianity is a semitic religion currently being followed by majority spics and niggers. It can't be reformed. How many times have whites castigated themselves trying to "reform" the flaws out of a semitic religion? It just can't be done. You have to create a new god in the image of an Aryan man, not a hebrew man.
Christianity has a jewish soul and everything that comes with it. You can rebuild a house over and over but if it's over rotten foundation, it's just a waste of effort.