Well the attacks on Deus Ex have revved up

He tried to warn us

I really do not get this shit. Its like when they try to make a character that is a woman or a nigger. If they make it not stereotypical enough that the character is a woman or a nigger (either by making her very feminine or making the nigger play basket ball) they get mad and just say its a man with tits or a dark skinned white man.

Too stereotypical you get the same faggots then bitching about the stereotype.

that fucking pajeet needs to be kicked off social media.

he can't be trusted with it.

FUCK AKs Fuck ARs

Yeah, I brought this up last thread. It's just awkward.

because there is no logic to it. they're just complaining to try and get the developer to show weakness so they can take over.

sometimes it's referred to as 'black lives matters'

blm people are fucking illiterate. that's why they support blm. because they're hobos.

Gotta wonder if they have enough self awareness to think 'I'm belittling the rights of others because they're using our slogan.' It's like using MLK's name to say that they themselves are relevant.

They are probably worried this game will reveal what BLM really is.

they look like realistic modern art pieces funded by taxpayers

Inb4 Auggate

There's no way this isn't a reference to BLM though

Why do these people eat themselves?
How does this cross a line in any way? Shouldn't they like this?

WHY IS MOSCOW MELTING
FUCKING AL GORE TURN DOWN THE HEAT

I don't think they like anything unless its themselves self inserting themselves into it

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It sure is a reference to BLM but how is it disrespectful or inappropriate? I just can't think of a reason they shouldn't be allowed to do it. It's time to purge the communists again.

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Hanzers don't have to be your audience. Hanzerz are dead.

Yes it did. What the hell are Twin Towers doing on the Red Square, and why they are melting? Not to mention that Russian protesters don't protest on Red Square, they are protesting on nearby Bolotnaya and Manezhnaya squares (and, as of recent, mass protests went out of vogue in Russia altogether because Russians saw what happened to Ukraine after their protests succeeded).

Only a Jewish mind would design wonky buildings like that, as warped as their mind.

It's an allegory. And incredibly ham-handed allegory. If anything, it's supportive of BLM. Probably because the developers don't understand that BLM is a terrorist organisation.

They should embrace it. Change the name to "Thug Lives Matter". It'd be more accurate.

It doesn't matter what route you'll take of pleasing them or giving them the "Fuck you", they will always deem your stuff to be problematic through mental gymnastics.

They're probably the same people who get upset over Speedy or any stereotypical Mexican character

someone spilt some jet fuel on them.

It's disrespectful and inappropriate for video games to comment on current events and culture. Video games need to grow up and get beyond this childishness.

I thought that the crackdown on the opposition by Putin that did that

Yes, it crossed the welfare line.

If you can't take the side of Purity First in this game it's a garbage game with no real choices.

Let me answer that for you;
It is for the same reason that when the Nice, Parris terrorist attack happened, the BLM morons tried their hardest to get the attention back on themselves.
Its attention.
Making this "AUG's lives matters" thing as a reference will be seen as a parody by the fucking retards who still think BLM is legitimate and not just some hate group.
And so they'll seek to have it removed because it does essentially cool things down. Any time something becomes a "meme" it becomes less serious. the "_ lives matters" is now essentially a meme in the same way "Occupy Wallstreet" became "Occupy ___".

There is one thing I do have to hand it to BLM though, they have made consistent efforts to draw the line and kick all other people with issues who want to piggy back on the momentum of BLM.
Remember, OWS failed because it suddenly became flooded with SJWs trying to make what was an economic issue into their SJW issues.
GG failed because it got filled with pretty much anyone and everyone who had grievances that weren't even video game related.

But BLM may simply fall because it is being "protected" by those same SJWs that couldn't get their foot in the door. Still trying to be "allies" to the "cause" so they'll just further speed up the ridiculousness of it all.

oh man I love that.

Every time I see shit like this, though, I wonder if there are any of those "video games are art" faggots that are now crying about what a horrible mistake they made.

That's a depressing read.

I really hope it's the devs poking fun at BLM. Controversy is good and I know we're all sick of only seeing Rockstar doing it.

Nah, Russian opposition that is supported by general population (such as CPRF) does not protests much outside of Internet, and liberal opposition don't get your hopes up, Holla Forums, Russian libtards are not leftists that the Putin cracked down on is hated by Russians because of the stuff they were doing in 90s when they had power and also because they hate Russians as well.

Fucking hell.

Too bad Rockstar these days is a pussy

But yes, I'd like to see the "Lives matter" become a trivial meme and make Black Cocks Matter more of a joke than it already is being a terrorist group

I got a good chuckle, everyone needs to chill the fuck out.

Already deal with SJW's bothering me at work asking me how I feel about BLM, last thing I need is them to start talking about video games and having me unmask my power level

Hows does the image even make sense anyway? How would people with augmentations even be the disenfranchised group, when augs were these expensive luxury items in the previous game?

I guess you didn't finish it.

The augs were hacked and started killing everyone. now they're segregated for safety purposes

Have we really come to a point in society where "I don't care, I don't have an opinion" is far more taboo than having even a "wrong" opinion?

Maybe that's the parody of it all? People with otherwise decent lives getting pulled into this "I AM SO OPPRESSED" movement?

Yeah, actually I didn't finish it. I guess that makes sense.

Is that subtle social commentary or just a total lack of self-awareness?

I don't like the game and I think it will be shit, but I sent a tweet to the guy Manveer is mad about telling him not to self censor.

Probably won't help, but at least I can know I did the right thing

Oh god, that's gonna be the black male section of BLM in the porn industry.

Carlos!

Just annoys me when I tell people it's no concern of mine and they prattle on "but user you're black, you should care like all the other blacks that care" but then these are the same people that'll pull a one-eighty and scream not all back people are the same and you can't put them in a box.

They always ask me which "side" I'm on and I tell them, my own and anyone else that has common sense that wants to come along

iron curtains

Well, you could argue that the people who came up with that didn't realize they were accidentally equating black people with aggressiveness.
Such things happen when you're not racist. You don't see those racist tropes.

There was a South Park espisode that touched on this. The town flag (pictured here) was up for a change and so the kids didn't udnerstand. Chef (the black guy) and I think like the 3 other black people in the town were all mad about it. The kids couldn't see why. Because the kids didn't see the racism in the flag they only saw 4 people hanging a 5th person.

at least they didn't cross the poverty line or the Mason-Dixon.

Hopefully this will serve as a lesson to developers who try to inject current real life social issues into video games. Nobody wants to see more about shit going on in real life when they're supposed to be having fun.

i think it's fucking funny as shit
but then i've never played dude sex

Its going to be cringe material. ALM will be the good guys who dindu and while they might deny it, it will be chock full of references to blm and how they need to make their own government and take over and all kinds of bs.

Yes those ugly as shit building in the background should not exist.

its not as if this is a new theme when it comes to cyberpunk stuff

Tell them they're being racist for thinking you have to have an opinion on BLM. Like seriously, raise that race card to them.
They'll stop.
They shouldn't be discussing such political things in a work environment anyway.

The original Deus Ex had tons of conspiracy theories lifted right from real life conspiracy theories.

This.

But I expect they'll be literally hitler supremacists, gassing people for wearing glasses or requiring crutches.

Hasn't moral ambiguity always been a staple of cyberpunk? I miss that.

Black lives matters will highly likely tweet death threats and dox DEVs

Game jouranlists will openly support BLM terrorism
Calling it now!

If this turns out to be the case then bravo Eidos

I guess there's a right way of doing it and a wrong way of doing it, and Eidos is losing grasp of the right way.

Imagine if the original Deus Ex were made today in its complete glory. All of its content kept in tact, with its libertarian, anti-authoritarian and politically incorrect values exactly as we experienced them.

Imagine all of the news sites that would condemn it for youth indoctrination.

Unfortunately it seems like the last game to ever do things morally grey would have been Mass Effect.
Paragon or Renegade choices…all working in service to the end goal of saving the fucking galaxy. Nothing really that slaps you up and says you made a good or bad choice. Just means to an end.

It is pretty much the 140 character limit. As people learned to compress their thoughts and feelings into 140 or less characters they also learned to discard all nuance. As their attention span dwindled they stopped bothering to read articles and formed entire opinions and stances based solely on tag lines and titles.
I'm real on this one, there have been scientific studies.
Most shit shared on social media that are articles and even videos are never actually read or watched, even by the person sharing it. Just done so for the title.

Warren Spector would bend over so fast he'd get whiplash.

Especially when Even liberals are getting sick of BLM bullshit.

Is it really that hard to make games with the spirit of the 90s or early 2000s today?

I'd just like to see a mod that properly addresses the poor melee combat, gunplay, and bizarre enemy behavior. As an RPG it's the best.

Well he didn't write it, but he'd take all the credit blame for it

Why is it that all truly great games seem to be unfinished?
S.T.A.L.K.E.R, Deus Ex, New Vegas, SotC, the list goes on.

Didn't he disown the gaming industry after Epic Mickey flopped?

Hopefully at the end it's revealed they're just another arm of the Illuminati trying to entrench their power.

Because most games need a deadline or else you end up in development hell.

See Duke Nukem Forever.

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i wouldn't worry about it. 90% of game devs don't actually develop what you'd call a game.

The funniest part about Speedy Gonzales is that Mexicans complained to get him back after people got rid of him.

I'd write that in.

It's just a matter of how the final product ends up in spite of all a bunch of cut content in order to meet a strict deadline.

isnt that what happened with the redskins football team?

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this is really disrespectful to the six million blacks killed every year by racist american cops

this kind of shit which was always a part of scifi dystopia settings has been riddled with "blm references" before it was even a thing.

I don't know, I stopped paying attention to the Redskins.

That'd actually be in keeping with the themes of the original Deus Ex. Too bad they'd never have the balls to put in conspiracy theories that will later turn out to be true again.

What's the Holla Forums consensus on that game anyway?

I haven't played it, but most normalfags and normalfags websites hate it because the level design is "outdated". Does that mean it's actually good?

It's an ugly lifeless mess with shit writing.

No its purely shitty and buggy throughout, with no fun gameplay anywhere to be found. It was made by Gearbox, which should tell you everything.
Stop trying to be contrarian for the sake of being contrarian and sticking one against the "normalfags" sometimes the buggy broken mess that everyone shits on is shat on because it really is shitty.

Same, BLM2, Bullpup Lives Matter too.

Wooah brah, all rifles matter, especially those Black Rifles that has been negatively and unfairly stereotyped in the media.

I wasn't skeptical because of normalfags. I was skeptical because they said it was "immature" and "outdated".

Thanks for the input, though.

It has the personality of older Duke games, the problem is that the game plays like a modern FPS game.

Augmented people are not naturally violent. I'm pretty sure the apartheid happens because of almost every aug going insane for a while near the end of DXHR because of that replacement chip that came with some kind of override that Darrow used to stop the proliferation of aug technology.

In the game's setting, aug lives do matter because of the people who are augmented are being punished by both the government and the people for something they couldn't prevent.
In other words, augs truly dindu nuffin.
And the ones who do damage to modern society in the DX universe, be it through acts of terrorism, murder, kidnapping and such, are operating on their own and not representative of the average aug.

How is MD going to consolidate the multiple endings from HR anyway? It will probably just take the IW route and say that all of the endings were the real ending.

i can't even believe there are people out there who's existence is so fucking shallow that they have to get raging upset over a virtual banner in a video game

for one, black lives matter is a joke, its fucking jews exploiting the negros who they made sure never to educate and thus easier to control. for two its not far fetched that in the future a slogan like that would exist if this future takes real world history into account. and for fucking three, its a video game.

but "oh no its in poor taste, its tone death to the BLM issues' because fuck BLM, all they do is disrupt people who aren't fucking cops. the actions of BLM made me some one who was pretty tolerant of black people into a giant racist who wants them all to fuck off back to africa and see how it works out for them

Except they were degenerate enough to modify their body with machinery, willing to let go of their humanity.

I would say that is wrong and immoral. Replacing your perfectly healthy bodyparts with machines is not natural nor is it healthy or sane thinking.

What if said body parts really are on their last legs?

ever heard of a pacemaker?

Healthy people put them inside of them on everyday bases?

As opposed to their first set of legs?

Luddites pls go.

Same outlash also occurred with the addition of a female assassin in Ass Creed Syndicate. You can't fucking please these people.

What I mean of is said body parts are dying out. I mean fuck that, I'm still gonna live, I'm still human.

when its not enough you get something that can do the job

get a load of this faggot. the human body is riddled with weakness, with the exception of being able to increase your bodies strength through consistent effort, the augments of the DX universe are way superior (unless they've added synthetic muscle type deals, i don't think so though)

and even if you can't strengthen your robo-muscles you can eventually upgrade them., if a robo limb is damaged it could be fixed much faster and with less lasting side effects of humans natural healing processes

humanity has always relied on technology to move forward, the god damn spear was an augmentation of sorts. the only downside i can really see is maybe losing the old sensation of another body heat, but that's for fags anyway

Exactly, just like the "mechanical apartheid" thing that they pushed in a previous trailer.

It's like if the perpetually offended have no idea of what "science fiction" means.

Humanity collectively invented all of the technology. If anything, shedding biological parts and replacing them with human tech is preserving your humanity. It's a useless argument, user, since 'values' like these are subjective as fuck.

I bet you're a christfag

They don't want to be pleased, they want to yell and be mad because that's what gets attention.

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So his core argument is not to appropriate real world events to advertise your games. Wasn't like 50% of DA:I's advertising focused around "Bioware's First Actually Gay Character". Did this moron from Bioware ever talk about Ghostbusters (2016) in a positive light since it's advertising was focused around we're feminist.

Fear not, user. 98% of the people on this board never experienced that anyway.

Daily reminder that eye is installed backwards. YOU HAD ONE JOB GOD

Muh transhumanity.

Fuck off with this bullshit. Humanity is created by relationship between you and others rather than the amount of flash you have

I personally thought it wasn't that bad. The game has a fun story and the DLCs are alright. Sadly Gearbox really rushed it once recieving the license and removed a lot of stuff that was supposed to be in the game.

One thing I didn't like was the night vision's very high frequency noise. Bothered my ears.

eye is the same forward as it is backwards

My biggest disappointment with cyberpunk is how little of it is about actual human weaknesses. It's always about muh strength and muh speed and never saccadic masking or pattern recognition.

Are you a fucking retard? Google "human blindspot" and then look up cephalopod eyes and how they are a hundred times better in every conceivable way.

Squenix is a cucked publisher no way they'll not cave or just act ass controlled opposition.

don't do it, one little taste of intimacy and your weak brain will crave it forever

of course with augs there's the off chance that those with personal appearance issues be it just being a fatass, or being born ugly or too short or whatever could be solved by augs.

assuming augs inrease the average persons life span, it also means it would be a good excuse for birth rates to be reduces, so the average person could focus on self fulfillment instead of supporting their leech children, and with the assistance of augs, one could have children at an older age when they decide to without the risk of them being little autismo babies

strength and speed are our most blatant weaknesses compared to animals

Wait what? That actually happened?

I would think in this day and age where places are becoming more PC, they'd see that as a good thing

Not to derail this thread, but if you actually do look at what everyone considered a god at the time the myths were being formed, you get a whole lot less than the modern interpretation of ALL knowing, ALL good, ALL powerful.
From what shows up, you actually just get something that is MORE knowing, MORE good, MORE powerful than any given human or collection of humans.
Remember, the jews had to carry God around in a box (arc of the covenant) for a while.

So all the arguments against there being a God actually melt away once you get rid of the concept of this thing being so illogically all powerful/knowing/good.
You end up with a God that is much like how us humans are gods among lesser creatures. The lesser the creature, the more god-like power we can exert over them.
With that said, the concept of an eternity is probably all relative too.
Compared to a family of dogs, any given human (with an average life span of 80 years) is some all-living eternal being.

What i'm saying is…god probably existed in some sort of cosmic dick-head of an entity that fucked with humans for a while.
But its also probably long fucking dead now.

nah if you want me to care youll have to spoonfeed me

now that I notice it my autism hurts

The list does go on. Morrowind was meant to feature all of Morrowind and not just Vvardenfell, that's what Tamriel Rebuilt was formed for.

Only because I enjoy explaining science. Your eyes have some big blind spots in the peripherals. With two eyes, it isn't usually an issue, but they're quite inefficient compared to, say, an octopus's eye.

When do we ignore these fuckers or at least point out how few people are actually mad at this instead making multiple Holla Forums bitching about SJWs and shit journalism all day.

Ideally shouldn't all games be libertarian I mean shouldn't the player be free to make whatever choice they individually choose to?

The reason why we have a blind spot at all is because the optic nerve gets in the way of the retina, because the retina is fucking BACKWARDS.

If God were a game dev he'd be EvaXephon.

And what I'm saying is that back in the day people didn't knew why there is a lightning, so they decided that there is angry guy sitting on a sky throwing some really cool spears or something. So here is your cosmic entity - it is called ATMOSPHERIC ELECTRICITY. You can of course say that the ATMOSPHERIC ELECTRICITY is a sentient being that we just can't understand, or that it wants us to think that it is a natural phenomena, not a sentient being, but this line of thinking is stupid and will eventually lead you to solipsism, and we all know that solipsists are faggots and should be mocked constantly.

Guess what - game companies weren't forced to make games diverse and SJW by some law, they are doing it out of their free will, because they think it will be more profitable for them. And yesterday you were celebrating GOVERNMENT court shutting down Kotaku. This means that SJWs are more libertarian than you.

Resistance is the only thing humans have superior respect to any animal

One of the bigger problems could be loss of touch or feeling to act as feedback and aid movement.

For an example, lets say a person has robotic hands. This person wakes up in the middle of the night and needs to get out of bed for some reason, but they need to put on their glasses first. Since they have no sense of touch in their hands, finding their glasses in the dark would be much more difficult since they couldn't tell when they touched them.

less physical augmentations would probably be easier to make and more popular. For example, I remember hearing about an implant for diabetics which would measure glucose levels and give insulin as needed.

Eh, just an observation based on the fact that all the arguments against the existence of god that attack these modern interpretations of an ALL POWERFUL ALL KNOWING ALL GOOD ENTITY fall apart when you replace ALL with "more" or "most".
Also a good amount of that shit crumbles when you consider that God may not actually be ALL GOOD but mostly evil.
After all, why make a universe where suffering is the default due to inaction?

inb4

I'd say that intelligence is obviously our only real strength, with endurance coming in a far second, but you're making a pretty good case for humanity being dumb as rocks.

They are already making prosthetics that can sense variable pressure.

Eeeeeh user. The concept of sensitivity is a good point but we can increase and reduce sensitivity of mech as we please. Think about a machine that can measure the weight of tons and milligrams

It will be raw at first and shit will get broke but after more advancement even sensitivity will be done correctly

aren't like gorillas more durable than us or something?

i assume in the DX universe theres some solution to tactile senses in the limbs, that or its just overlooked

pretty sure the augs are hooked up to neurodes, so yeah it is solved in some way.

Magnets and EMPs

We have superior intelligence, our stamina is non too shabby, our upright stance was giving us some advantages in hunt, and we are amazingly omnivorous.

You see, there is no place in current world even for a mostly powerful entity. There is no proof for its existence aside from one book written by, guess what, humans. Religion is not really about god anyway, if you thought about it. Back in the day, it was empowering the government and was generally used in place of ideology (which is still true for Islam), while now it is supposed to strengthen the community (which works for Jews).

I don't see how what you posted has anything to do with what I posted. Also the government shut down Kotaku that sounds really fucking scary.

Useless stat

bullets and grenades. man will always find new ways to kill one another, and new ways to not die, so that's a kinda poor argument

I assume he is referring to gawker running out of money because they couldn't afford to pay damages to Hogan. And Kotaku isn't closing, it's assumed they will be sold to Ziff Davis or something.

Religious texts as a whole are a moral guideline for society more than anything.

i am only argumenting in favor that they are weak on other aspects, Deus Ex technology is still pretty far from being "the next step of evolution".

This is my favourite meme

Oh I knew about that shit which really isn't anything like that. Somebody posting a pornographic film of a person they had no knowledge of even existing isn't free speech. I mean even if it wasn't in a state with revenge porn laws they would still get nailed down on copyright. Them getting sued for posting that and making money off of clicks after being told and warned numerous times to take it down seems perfectly ok. Now if Hogan was aware he was being filmed and relinquished the rights to whoever gave Gawker the tape then yeah they have every right to post it and the courts deciding against them would be free speech issue.

A lot of augs were people who had lost limbs. Many of them were veterans. The moral question was over deliberately cutting off your healthy limbs–but there were loads of people for whom augs were emergency procedures or medical treatments after accidents and injuries. It's not a clear-cut issue.
Also, the entire point of Human Revolution, that nobody seems to talk about, is that the morality of augmentations wasn't really important, and that the bigger threat to humanity was that it allowed the elites another avenue of control over society.

They were the easiest way to dictate laws, morals, and general advice to live to largely uneducated people at the time. I mean it's why they're against eating pork because at the time in that region pork carried a lot of diseases and was unsafe. Of course nowadays those are largely out of date to various degrees and thinking that people can only be moral with religion is a really stupid argument.

You realize that the first pic is a symbol of faggots that never make ANYTHING new and just play mechanic to old rotting tech, right?
Here's where you really want to be.

couldn't care either way.
Remember the memes in HR in that "hacker guy"'s room? Anonymous X?

Yes, have you? People dont replace their hearts with pacemakers for the luls. Hanzers amputate arms and legs just to replace them with powerful mechanical ones because they are lazy degenerate scum who refuse to work towards achieving greatness and want a shortcut in life.

Turns out their body rejects those unnatural mechanical parts, because it was not meant to be.

That's not a good excuse for literally amputating your bodyparts and replacing them with machines instead of you know, doing what evolution meant you to do, TRAIN YOUR BODY.

Humanity has always advanced technology to move forward, but if you replace your body with machines you are no longer human, thus you are going backwards.

You are all wrong. A human is meant to perfect their body through training, and to use technology, not BECOME technology.

No it's not. It's objective.

We'll just have to shoah you anti-humanity weirdos if you ever make this a reality, no hard feelings eh.

i would prefer joining to the earth caste

what's human then?

Not an argument. Obviously a human is a human - a cyborg is not.

the human lifespan isn't long enough for that, we can improve the bodies we get but we won't witness any evolution while alive without technology assisting

Maybe if you're melanin-enriched.

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Oh sorry, you wanted some fancy claws or wings? Fuck off faggot

Agree in all, but intelligence isn't really a thing. If we could per brain mass whales are better. We have the sapient part that's on our way, that means we can make a spear and a bow instead of having a branch and throw a rock but again, is nothing compared to social group and endurance

Not really. There was a study by a German dude that demonstrated how an average male human can walk for 72h with brief pause

of course is not an argument, i am asking what is needed for something to become an human, where is the line?

If an indie studio had done it it would have gone down fine.

With your line of logic, people with any prosthetic parts at all for any reason are less human than those that aren't.
Now tell me in practical terms, what consequences does this have? Does this give us the ability to deny them any rights?

Acktually they didn't agree with pork because it needed lots of water to grow and all.

I think you mean dogs for all the disease

You what mate? Nowhere did I say training your body evolves the human species. I said evolution meant humans to better themselves through training and experience - not by turning themselves into cyborgs.

This is proven by the fact that the human body does in fact, reject prosthetics and other technological additions into the body. You're simply not meant to have those things in your body, and the human body will not stop rejecting them.

Depends if they need those to live. Obviously it makes sense that someone with a shitty heart has a pacemaker. They need it to live. This makes them weaker and less useful than healthy humans.
You only have what rights you take for yourself. No such thing exists as human rights.

You know that Christfags are inescapable

I'm too drunk to type this shit

Prosthetic limbs aren't needed to live.
But are they less human?
I never said they do. I asked if they should be afforded less rights than other people already receive.

If they commit obvious crime like battery, robbery, and homicide with their augs then yeah.

What the hell are you saying kid?

Not all games, no. In a way, art is the process of putting limits on imagination, and this works for vidya as well. In general, the author has to place barriers one way or another, whether out of practicality like invisible walls, or out of artistic license. A point and click wouldn't necessarily gain anything by being open-world.

If you've lost your limb because of circumstance, then obviously a prosthetic limb helps and is a good thing. People wanting to amputate healthy limbs and replace them with prosthetics are mentally sick, degenerate people. Different thing. These people do not deserve good treatment or tolerance.

The ones who want to become cyborgs certainly are.

The ones wanting to become cyborgs should.

A fact? There is no such thing. Are you capable of explaining what human rights are, where they come from and how do they exist? There is no such thing. You've only been taught to believe that they exist, but they are just an invention by a globalist organization called the UN, invented to promote a specific agenda. That's all the term means.

So people are unhealthy or deserve to be persecuted because they want to have prosthetic limbs that make them more useful than normal humans?
So it's not circumstance that determines whether you're less than human? It's literally 'feels' that change 'reals'?

oh so i guess none of us are actually using the internet right now since you can't explain how it works or where it comes from

He'll just block you without ever replying, and say that your tweet was "harassment." It's all they ever do, like clockwork.

Morrowind was deliberately made to be set on an island, to avoid invisible walls.

Journalism and education are usually exempt from copyright restrictions. The case against Gawker contended that the sex tape was neither journalism nor in the public interest. They had also been ordered to take it down by a court, and refused, long before the lawsuit.

I've read a theory that the prohibition of pork was because human meat actually tastes (and smells) a lot like pork, so forbidding it was seen as a preemptive way to make sure nobody could ever engage in cannibalism.

46 chromosomes.

How's it feel when your pandering blows up in your face? A Dude Sex game hasn't had anything to say in over a decade. Fuck the franchise and fuck SE.

Yes. This would be obvious if you were a moral person. Obviously wanting to alter or replace your body with machinery is unnatural and sick. Cutting your arm off and replacing it with a mechanical one because you want to be a cyborg is no different from cutting your dick off because you want to be a woman: it's mental illness, and you deserve to be treated like an insane retard.

I guess you don't understand the meaning of those terms, since I am the one supporting the side of 'reals' here and you not.

Not an argument.

This. Human Revolution was already an SJW game.

Sweet. Trial by fire. How the devs handle this situation will tell me if the game is worth a shit.

No I meant pork I was probably just misinformed.

I don't think that's the case I mean then what would stop "journalists" from just posting entire documentaries. I mean you could easily make an argument for a lot of documentaries to be important for the public to know. I mean I think if Gawker reported the existence of the tape that would probably be fine but actually posting and hosting the thing was the issue.

Cutting off your dick because you think you're a woman despite never being able to become one is in no way comparable to cutting off your arm because you can improve your arm with a superior prosthetic.

You're the one who said you're less than human after receiving a prosthetic if and only if you actually wanted one for reasons that don't include health. Sorry to say but things aren't 'real' just because you pulled arbitrary criteria out of your ass.

lol okay on to the next thread

Then that wouldn't be journalism anymore, it would just be reproducing somebody else's work. Or at least, you'd have to argue in a court that posting a work in its entirety (without comment, public interest, or relevant news) counts as journalism. The court would probably disagree.

Maybe the people who write these things should just kill themsevles so they don't have to deal with any views they find distressing ever again. Clearly, block lists, censoring content & turning off comments/ratings isn't enough. Mass euthanasia is the only remaining solution for such people.

Fuck with the poo in loo and tell him how niggers are treated in India. Also ask him if India should be flooded with africans.

Worked on that jew and israel we trolled a while back. Showed his true jew colours.

So I can just get at your place, fug your kids and let you watch then leave an anthrax gasbomb since laws and human rights are real due to being made by humans?
Noted.

Well, is fairly easy to spot /nupol/ shitposter.

Most likely. Pork was because to survive needs a lot of water and in the desert that would mean death for humans. Dogs for being dirty and rabid

im a theologian that's why I know most of the reason of dogmas in all te holy books

I was replaying the series to convince myself not to buy the new one and it worked. I finished IW this morning and dropped HR after an hour this evening, I just can't take it anymore. DX only needed to be one game.

I can't believe how racist BLM has made everyone. Not just myself but most of the people I know including hardcore lefty types. How many times IRL or online do I hear "I wasn't racist until BLM?", these terrorists should just fuck off back to africa if they hate it here so much and whine so badly about their shit treatment. Literally the ones who get shot and killed the most are every single other fucking face, the highest being Native Americans and they're already going extinct as it is.

So people with down syndrome aren't human?

There are some other factors.

Yeah but above being offended and all that other stuff these people are so vein and arrogant they get really upset when people enjoy stuff they are not enjoying. So they must demand that it either not exist or tarnish it so much that nobody else can enjoy it and speak publicly about it.

Oh really well either it was there for a practicality reason and not because God deemed it so.

No

Those buildings look like they come from Zootopia.

I love watching SJWs tear other SJWs apart because they're not progressive enough. It's hilarious.

First of all, latin america isnt PC at all.
Second, speedy gonzales is a beloved character for latin americans.

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It's not hard. Just make a faggot media account with some non-white picture. Proceed to tell every white nu-male or tumblrina to check their privilege, that they aren't allowed to even fucking talk because they're white (make sure you keep reminding them this very important "fact" that only exists with the leftard SJW mentally insane mind) and then cripple them until only braindead niggers are the ones talking.

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But the writers are against SJWs, aren't they? I remember when one of hem even went to KiA. Or am I remembering the wrong devs?

you cant outrun your sins, sonic

While it isn't as good as the original game I still really enjoyed Deus Ex HR.

I know

I wish the bedroom I had growing up was as big as Sammy's.

god i love that fucking kid hope he grows up alright

Most of religion is to explain a "mystery" or have a practical reason or set morals of society. like why Hindu can't kill cows or why Jew can't into shellfish or why Tuareg can't remove then vest or why mudslim make Ramadan only fedora tippers thinks are fantasy story and only nutjobs thinks are real.

How much have you had to drink?

Nigger Lives Matter would be more appropriate.

Except it doesn't contradicts the fact that it IS a fantasy story, it's just you are forced to believe that it is true, especially in Abrahamic religions, which are worst cancer. The point is that we don't need religion no more - we have science to explain "mysteries", we have laws that evolve with society, and the main purpose of religion back in the day (politics) is no longer relevant because every civilized country is secular.

The vast majority of humanity is religious. There are more theists than atheists so one would say being atheist is abnormal.

Here's another thing. Religion does not exist among any other animals. It's always regarding in popular (((media))) as dumb but in reality religion does not exist among creatures of lower intellect and base instincts. So is religion not proof of higher thinking?

Well…even the Atheist is prone to dogmatic thinking.

What I think it boils down to is that human beings, being of the highest of all social order of animals, bond on this level through ideology.
We have more primal bonds which would go into "race" but truly what brings us together is a shared ideology.
Ideologies, of course, arise out of complex language and such. These can often transcend race.

please use archive.is/sciencetech/article-3475816/Is-proof-chimps-believe-God-Scientists-baffled-footage-primates-throwing-rocks-building-shrines-sacred-tree-no-reason.html

The vast majority of humanity lives in poverty.
Communism does not exists among animals either.

I don't have a problem with social commentary in games as long as it isn't one-sided.

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Before the enlightenment, religion was an extension of existentialism, mathematics, philosphy, the lock and key to the sciences and greater learning.

A species that can ask, "Why are we here?" is definitionally intelligent.

Then what are ant colonies?

Monarchies, you retard

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Yeah he really walked into that one I mean they have a fucking queen.

I like to think of the queen ant as a little Mao.

Mao didn't make all of his people work so he could give birth to all the Chinese dumbass.

Recent events have made me hate leftists and vote for the most far right parties in my country (who are winning/won) when before I did not care about politics and just wanted to play my video games and BLM just made me and everyone else infinitely more racist when I used to be the opposite.

Truly amazing character development in such a short span of time.

Well the queen of England didn't have mandibles that could lift heavy objects either, but that didn't stop Biologists.

dont forget bee

Developers could've sided with gamers in 2014 and we'd be defending them, but let's get real - the devs will side with the leftists to avoid losing the sales they wouldn't have lost anyway and we'll be stuck with censorship because we're the ones who get fucked every time always.

DON'T BUY SHIT

it's still going, nigga. In fact it accomplished it's goal of putting SJWs on the constant defensive. And it's still running because it doesn't have a reputation to rely on because all operations are user.

Them using Gamergate as an aimless boogeyman, with no one to point to but "those misogynist cis shitlords", which makes them look less credible then a tinfoil. You can't tell WHO is gamergate, but it has awakened people and it won't go away just because you said it failed.

If it was a protest group, then by god it'd be dead. Because it would rely on protesting instead of opening a dialouge with advertisers, and affliates of corrupt companies, who don't know of their corruptness.

Gamergate is "dead", but the bones are still walkin' the earth, baby.

That's conspiracy shit nigga.

Just investigate the controversies that happen with the company, and if they're shit, don't buy the game.

What you should never do, in fact, is buy on day one. It's retarded and there are plenty of people willing to do that for you so you can test the waters.

How many of the unemployed niggers who burn down the local quicktrip when a feral gets put down were clamoring for the next Deus Ex?

Apology and censorship in 3… 2… 1…

either you mix with the niggers like the fucking spics (mestizaje) or exterminate them, there is no other option

liretally telling artist what should and shouldn't draw lol

Ant queens aren't rulers though.
They're more like reproductive slaves.

its not the negro community theyre going after, its the super smart activists who might actually buy it instead of the people who would rob a store when they could just pirate it

I pray he won't grow up like chris-chan

Tsk. user, you want to see how humans behave whitout religion? Look at millenias. They have all degenerate god I hate to type this bullshit thoughts, they don't have respect of authority or anyone outside of themself. Humans whitout a "upper power" have no direction.
Plus science doesn't exclude religion, almost 80/90% of scientist are religious, because they know that science just explain things in practical and religion explain it in theory, think about it as philosophy for your mind.
plus science still have lot to answer that no one can actually say whatyet have I to remind you that 20y ago people deny excistance of ayyyy and multi universe and now is common knowledge.

are you saying I'm a pig? if not I'm barely on the limit of alcoholism. Being a professor teaching to a class of radical religious that can't open their mind to learn other cultures history because "heathens LoL they get to hell" and fedora tippers that try to challenge me in discussion after reading a buzzfeed article of old dogmas and dismiss settings without even exploring the concept of God or Primordial masters. It brings anyone to the bottle user

I have more respect to agnostic than both of my average students. At least Agno keep the mind open and can learn other stuff even if after they still don't know to believe

Yes. Animals are driven by sole instinct, humans are the only ones questioning that instinct. You are right to say humans are the only with religion and you know what? siddartah said that

or me

You want to see how people behave WITH religion? Look at muslims.

Look, this is pointless and it's a cyclical argument. There will always be shitty people, no matter the generation or the time or place.

What matters is not letting those assholes ORGANIZE. Because that's when the heavy shit starts.

It's usually not the ideal that makes a shitty person (unless adherance of those ideals leads you to kill and promote suffering, like Islam does), it's the shitty fucking person.

Get over yourself.

That's bullshit and you know it
Penguins are commies. Ants are commies. Even some species of birds are commies
Stop eating lies user and research

Ant queens are hardly slaves, no member of the colony is so valued as her highness.

Instinct is the true pupeteer behind the insects, this much is true. However, the queen carries with her a scent of commanding magnitude.
She comes first.

Christfag here, I'd replace my limbs if the replacements were superior. If I ever lose a limb in an industrial accident, I'm getting the most bitchin' replacement for it and then DIYing the shit out of it, hacking together my own firmware, making custom attachments for my guns, etc.

shes comes first because of what she does, not because of authority. babies come first, she just happens to be a baby factory

while you are right, she has pheromones that utterly control the other ants.

By that logic all ants would be slaves. This is not the truth, but it is not necessarily wrong.
If instinct is the condictor, then surely the master would be death, extinction.
The ant's purpose is to make more ants, to further the species, to expand and out-pace the cold reach of the void.

Correction. They are at the same level of Christian Baptist nutjobs, or the cults members like in Scientology. They take the text as plain words and truths instead of being a guidance for morality.
You want to actually know how people behave with religion? Look at Einstein or at Rita Levi Moltancini or madre Theresa or even the other Swiss guy that found "gods atom". They make great things aiming at achieving God side.
Don't blame the idea, blame the fallacy of humans.

Are they gonna keep doing the 'Are augmented people still people?' shit for every Deus Ex game they make?

So, you are saying that religion provides guidance for morality, but it only works for people who don't need that guidance anyway?

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Well look at that, they are making technological progress equal to sexual orientation. Good job, Murrica.

And likewise, the ants will herd the queen to ensure she stays put. Bees are the same way, it's hardwired instead of one controlling the other. Swarming, when a queen leaves the hive, is a joint "decision" caused by hivewide pheromones as a result of overcrowding. New queens are produced by workers when a queen leaves or dies, and the virgin queens will fight to the death, with the winner flying off, mating with drones to receive a lifetime supply of bee jizz, and flying back to serve the colony by producing new eggs for a few years.

Can't recall if the bees will ever kill off an aging queen or not, but it wouldn't surprise me, since they're capable of producing new ones as long as they have eggs that are less than 3 days old, since the introduction of royal jelly will affect development in a way that produces a new queen rather than a sterile female worker.

Bee sexuality is actually incredibly fucked up. Males, or drones, are produced simply by unfertilized eggs. The queen will select whether to lay a fertilized or unfertilized egg based on the honeycomb - drones are larger and require larger cells; you can actually force drone production by providing a baseboard with larger cell sizes (plastic sheet with raised honeycomb pattern that the bees build off of). If a queen dies and there are no suitable eggs for a new queen, worker bees will actually develop to lay drone eggs themselves, but will be incapable of laying fertilized worker eggs to continue the colony, as they have never mated and are incapable of mating. The hive will eventually die, as there's no new source of worker bees.

Now, as far as slavery and control and whatnot, here's another weird tidbit. You can introduce a new queen to a hive that has lost theirs. You can even separate and kill the queen if she's too old. Monitor the hive and destroy any queen cells you find for a few days, and then you can introduce a new queen manually (usually done to change breeds). But the bees will attack foreign queens, so you use a little wooden box with screening on the sides and a candy plug. There's a queen and a few attendant bees from the queen's hive. When the bees pick up queen pheromones in a queenless hive they'll initially be hostile, but can't attack through the screening. Over the course of the couple days that it takes them to eat away the sugar plug, the queen will adapt to their pheromones and go native, or the bees will get used to the queen's pheromones and turn friendly. When that happens, they'll accept her as a new queen. If you try to introduce a new queen to a hive that already has one, though, the old queen will seek her out and kill her.

So in the end it's far more complex than just one controlling the other. The system is best thought of as a true collective, where the queen is nothing but another asset to the hive as a whole.

t. had a dozen hives when I was a kid

yes.

on another note, when people "convert" after realizing they're assholes, they do so as penance, because being a dedicated church guy is considered very moral when in fact they're over compensating because they realized they're assholes and feel really shitty about it.

now thats a hell of a hobby

Jews aren't christian.

user, c'mon. She is started as Catholic, whent full atheist and was only sympathetic with Jewish

*have started.

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Wanna try again?

Parents owned a small farm. Hives were technically my dad's, but I was the one with the touch. I could handle them with my bare hands (was never comfortable taking off the veil) and had a good feeling for when they were agitated, how much smoke to apply, etc. Got stung once over the course of 8 years. My dad got stung so much despite the full suit that he developed an allergy, which apparently is a thing, although in the end he worked with them a lot more since I had school and shit. I always enjoyed working with microhives and shit and would have loved to get into commercial queen breeding and artificial selection/crossbreeding. Wild honeybees are crazy disease resistant, find a hive that's been established for 5 years without human intervention, cross them with the better imported (usually germanic, iirc) strains and you can make bank.

You remember all the paranoia a few years back about colony collapse disorders? That wasn't neo-nicotinoids or global warming or any such bullshit, it was mostly because the FDA hadn't approved any new mite treatments for 20 years, and the mites had gotten resistant to the handful of existing treatments. That makes the entire hive susceptible to more dangerous diseases like foulbrood (the solution to which is to dose the hive in gasoline and throw a match at it and pray that it hasn't infected your other hives), and more significantly, causes bees to become confused and get lost. No field workers means no food, no food means they die in the winter. Or during cleansing flights (on warm days in winter, almost the entire hive will fly outside solely to take a massive shit) they'll get confused, fly into the white snow thinking that it's actually sky, and freeze to death. Both of these result in bees seeming to mysteriously disappear, which led to a lot of paranoia. Get a strain that's resistant to mites though, and you'll save a fuckton of money - first-year hives can't generally be harvested for honey, and you're not paying $60 for a 2lb box of bees (plus queen) for half your hives.

Fuck, it's too late here, I need to stop ranting. It's crazy nostalgic to think about beekeeping though, that was a good period in my life.

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Religion provide a guide for morality, call it karma or yinyang or whatever. people that need it believe it, and if they don't believe it then they usually need it. It's inertly I'm each humans a certain degree of "good morals" and "bad morals".
If they don't belive and don't need it I yet have to met

Yes and no. Reborn believers usually do it for a trauma or fear. The former they actually become more a saint than original believers because they want to make amend or because they had a flash that need to be followed, the latter instead will still be the same shitty person but preaching with another voice see the pedo priest

i would have thought it would be the opposite.

Naaaa I'm too drunk for that. Hope you still got the concept tho

It usually is, but bee venom is different. Enough exposure to it can actually cause worse reactions. He gave it up after he had to use an epi-pen for the first time in his life. He'd probably been stung 50 or 60 times at that point.

There's not point in augs.

The usual sci-fi BS of "I'll stick this bionic arm on me, and now I'm SUPER-STRONG" is fantasy.
You're not gonna be lifting cars.
The human body is a supremely complex system of parts that interact.

Want to lift a car? Better make sure you shoulder join can take the weight, unless you want to rip your own arm off.
Oh, and the spine is going to have to support whatever you're lifting, so replace that too. Etc..

And while you're chopping yourself to pieces and putting in parts that are foreign and shit, I'm gonna lift that car with my forklift and beat the living shit out of you with power armor.

Because humans conquered nature by using superior tools, not turning themselves into tools.

that's why in the first DE all the good augs were nanomachines, as people quickly realized that the mecha ones were rather shit, and dropped them as soon as the tech was available.

If anything, it might retread the same subplot of HR, where the protesters were stirred on by Illuminati shills, because they wanted a referendum on prosthetic regulation so they could put mind control malware in it.

psst I'm going to let you in on a little game development secret:

Do you what you think is cool and fun. It doesn't matter what other people say. They will bitch and moan about your game regardless, because they make their money through clickbait. They'll say whatever they can to get views.

The guy on the left foreground is obscuring the S in "lives".
I thought this was obvious.

Candidates for real life monster girls are slim.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_organisms_by_chromosome_count

They have no defined metric since everything is based on feelings, so it is impossible to please them. The only way to win is to not play.

I like this guy, and I really like your mischlings bullpup!

Yes yes yes yes, do it do it do it do it.
I'll buy 5 copies.

If there's one thing I noticed HR does different from DX, it's considering the factor of radicals. People beyond reasoning who do bad things for a just cause. Most of the NSF and other 'terrorists' were good guys who dindu nuffin and were only oppressed by the state. There were your everyday thugs and criminals, but none of them acted out of ideological reasons.

The whole Humanity Liberation Front is essentially the IS to muslims or what BLM will soon turn into, because they think all augs r baaaad. The whole aug debate is controlled by the Illuminati anyways with the HLF acting as just another pawn, just like real life. The terrorists aren't necessarily the good guys in HR, nor would any radical armed group be.

When you think about it, augs truly dindu nuffin. They were turned into mad zombies by a third party, and they are actually the victims in this situation. You never see augmented people actually oppressing normal people (unless you count armed forces like Belltower and the Tyrants, though in this situation augs are more of a means like guns), and basically the whole debate is overblown and rooted in people's irrational fears.

That's the thing where the whole aug debate mirrors reality, we want to prevent any negative hypothetical situations, so people often discriminate and protest because they don't want this group with a few bad apples to run rampant in society. There were some cases of people getting augmented to go on a rampage in HR (I think), so it's not as if people's fears were completely unfounded before the broadcast incident. If anything, HR is more reminiscent of the refugee crisis even though it was released long before that. In-game you had little reason to care about the whole debate which unfolded in the background anyways, but that's another story. Like muslim refugees, they didn't really have any say in the actual debate other than for emotional appeal by any of the two largely non-augmented parties.

When you look at MD, there's even gangs of augs who banded together to carry out acts of terror after being constantly discriminated against and even separated to aug-only zones. It does not justify their actions, but you can understand where they are coming from. Mankind discriminated augs out of fear, and so certain augs decided to act in the way everyone saw them as. If you think this is victim pandering on Eidos' part, suit yourself.

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But muslims are dangerous and relentless, not weak or dysfunctional.

Of course they won't let bitches screw them over, but that's a sign of intelligence. And of course they didn't start the industrial revolution, but it's not like we're in the 50s anymore. Dubai is a marvel. They love their identity and their family which is something we have completely lost.

All you need to do, is to keep them out and at bay and neither of you will have a problem. But no, on one side you desperately need their natural resources, and on the other you're so cucked you can't help but let their troops in.

Another case I can do it but you can't. I don't think there was this much stink about District 9, when that was a clearly ripping off inspiration of the Apartheid. Though, that was the least of that movies problems.

Chris Chan sums up everything that is wrong with modern society.

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user with your post you made me want to know more shit about animals. Thank you have some tits

Daily reminder that there were devs pretending this wouldn't be about augs being blacks and yet you have shit like AUG LIVES MATTER.

I wish beekeeper user was back, I really liked reading about it

On the otherhand;

Keep in mind people who got shafted (as in can't pay for the drugs anymore or can't make the cyborg-zombie incident go away) are mostly middle class white collars who had to have them to keep their desk jobs and blue collars who had to have power tools and other stupid shit just to get employed. They are people who wanted to keep up their productivity but still got shafted and decided to take part political and/or armed action.

Now real-life "x lives matter" cannot have their slogan stolen by game-people who get discriminated because they wanted to find or keep their jobs but still got shafted, can they?

Here comes the anti-violence
You are about to be peacefully protested

Wow. Spiderman has really fallen on hard times.

He's standing punching up for social justice

Pretty good read though, I think it says what needs to be said clear enough, only time will tell if anyone learns anything

Better idea: Make a game where all the goofy extreme-left SJW/blacktivist/feminazi/Gaia-treefucker/etc conspiracy theories are actually true. Remember that the original Deus Ex was made by leftists, but played (mostly extreme-right Bircher/survivalist/sovereign citizen/etc) conspiracy theories straight. There is some grade AAA material in there.

Nigga you seriously need to look up the definition of a classical liberal

Maybe you need shitty plastic western rifle that can't hit right side of barn even with bipod, extended barrel, and 17 tacticool scopes

He is right
The original was very anti authority anti establishment

Classical liberalism was leftist, going clear back to the Levelers in English peasant rebellions. Even the modern lolbert/randroid phenomenon is, like neoconservatism, the ideological offspring of dissident Trotskyites.

Anyway, the old Deus Ex devs quite simply were leftists. Not frothing-at-the-mouth SJWs or their whimpering cuck slaves like you'd see in the post-2007 world of today, just normal people who were politically left-leaning.

Evolution = mutation + survival of the fittest
Cybernetically altering yourself to become the fittest is therefore a form of evolution fuck you

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Not quite, it has to be a specific kind of mutation. One that adds new type of functioning information to the system.

Not really, if the mutant manages to survive even with a useless or even bad mutation then that would be evolution as well

THIS, physical augmentation as a concept is retarded on a fundamental level, the appearance of mental augmentation in the backstory happened because the writers realized how dopey their premise was. Making augmentation the central feature of the plot only happened because it's the most immediately obvious aspect of the old games' setting on a surface level.

Yeah, evolution isn't "survival of the fittest", it's "death of the not-quite-good-enough".

[citation needed]
fucking americans.

THE SIGN SAYS AUGS LIVE MATTERS NOT AUG LIVES MATTER

STOP GETTING IT WRONG

IT'S TRIGGERING MY AUTISM

Mutation is random, cybernetics/genetic engineering is putting all your eggs in one basket, hence shit. It's as asinine as a communist's 5 year plan.

augs lives matters still doesn't work.

However, it would work gramattically as "Augs Live" Matters. "Augs Live" being the name of something like a policy or group.

I'm just stating facts, user. You don't believe me, read about the people who wrote the story and their other works:
Dialog:
mobygames.com/developer/sheet/view/developerId,19546/
Additional dialog:
mobygames.com/developer/sheet/view/developerId,4980/
Ingame text:
mobygames.com/developer/sheet/view/developerId,19547/

This was a surprisingly civil thread. Highly educational too (especially the bee story).

I'm quite speechless to be honest.

I don't understand this. Isn't this a pro-socjus move?

This user is perfectly right, actually. Augmenting the general population is a terrible idea. Just think about the wider picture here:
solved by augmenting them earlier and even more thoroughly
I do not like this vision of the future.

I'd fund it

This does not happen. Pick up a biology textbook sometime.

Hopefully other user didn't literally mean genetic memory, and actually meant that genetic defectives who would be stillborn today would instead survive to reproduce and pollute the genepool.

I guess we still have a tail, then? And let's not forget all the disadvantageous mutations that would spread. A disadvantageous mutation usually leads to the affected individual not passing on his genetic information (in the animal realm, they get eaten/die of dieseases/otherwise perish, in our society it is somewhat mitigated, but even here such things lead to having a hard time finding a mate). If we simply augmented them, they would spread that mutation onwards, as the natural barrier preventing that from happening would be gone. Look at it however you want, augmenting the general populace is a mistake. It should be limited to replacing lost/faulty limbs and organs, and perhaps to some very few professions.

The very essence of degeneracy, and mental sickness only the retarded have.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speedy_Gonzales#Concern_about_stereotypes

Saved, thanks!

I'm back and awake. First time in 3 months I've been able to sleep as long as I wanted, and I'm looking at two weeks of vacation ahead of me. Feels fucking great.

Here's some nifty info about the lifecycle of your average bee.

So the egg gets laid and lives for a few days off of its yolk. It'll then hatch into a stationary larva that looks like a maggot. For just a little bit, it's fed royal jelly - I was actually wrong about that in the first posts. All bees get royal jelly for the first few days of their life, what differentiates new queens is that they get it constantly. They literally live in a bath of the stuff during the larval stage (pic related). Royal Jelly is simply a mixture secreted by the worker bees.

After that, workers are fed something called "bee bread". It's a mixture of raw pollen and honey, worker bees make it and pack it into cells around the brood areas. They'll be manually fed that for the remainder of the larval stage, which is a little less than a week. Growth in this time is incredibly fast, over the 9 days they'll go from a barely-visible egg (0.132 mg according to wiki) to a maggot-sized larva weighing ~155.2 mg. After that, the cell is capped with wax and the larva turns into a pupa. I think it stays in that form for about two weeks, then the newly hatched bee emerges into the hive. As soon as the wings dry and harden, it begins working. It first cleans out the cell it emerged from, tidies it, and polishes it for a new egg. Over the next several weeks, it takes on specific age-based roles. Sometimes these roles overlap, but as a rule, it's cleaning for the first few days, nursing worker larvae and disposing of dead bees, sometimes attending to the queen (cleaning and feeding), then a total shift to collecting nectar from field workers, fanning the hive to keep it cool (they'll stand at the entrance, hook themselves to the floor, and simply flap their wings at top speed, really neat to see in the summer), guarding the hive by attacking intruders and flying patrols around the outside of the hive, and producing beeswax. After 2-3 weeks of this, they "retire" and become field workers. The rest of their lives are spent flying out, collecting nectar and pollen, and returning it. They'll visit several hundred flowers per flight, and have an operational range of roughly two miles - after that, it takes too much energy to make the trip to justify the amount of nectar collected. You can vaguely judge how old a worker is simply by observing the wings - the more tattered they are, the older the bee.

Use of an appendage or organ has nothing to do with what you pass to your offspring. By your argument horses that eat tree leaves for generations turn into giraffes because they stretch their necks. Or white people with a tan will produce black children.

Also, we already incentivize detrimental mutations, modern science has made sure of it. Why are there so many lactose intolerant people? So many people allergic to gluten? So many people with genetic diseases are kept alive due to the efforts of modern medicine that natural selection operates completely differently when it comes to the human species, selecting primarily for social skill,and how wealthy your parents are. If you're afraid that augmentation will make weak genes flourish, wake up, it's already happening.

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Isn't it the other way around, though? Adult animals are not supposed to drink milk, but humans evolved to do so.

the only thing they did wrong here was that this game looks like shit.

kek.

Even with all the pseudoscience revivals going on these days, I never expected to see someone seriously arguing for Lamarckism, bravo user.

I love how speedy is problematic but he's basically the coolest guy ever in mexico

His point is perfectly valid, even if he did express it in a retarded way. The ability to simply replace organs with implants whenever they were to become an issue would result in far less selection pressure against the defective and malformed. Someone born a cripple could pass on his genes more easily and thus in a couple generations result in a far larger number of people with severe genetic conditions that would make them actually need those implants to survive rather than having them as mere improvements. Even without augmentations we have a fuckhuge number of people being born crippled and/or with autism, imagine how much worse it would be with that kind of technology available.

This is already happening in Asia, especially Korea, but with plastic surgery instead of augmentations.

Yes but your example only applies to appearance, not to shit like having your spine collapse in on itself.

Guys, this is deliberate bait on their part. You honestly didn't think they KNEW the yellow press is gonna jump on that shit giving it a ton of fucking exposure? Have you forgotten about the preorder shit for this?

Fun in vidya? What are you, a bigot? It's the $CURRENT_YEAR

All that matters to me is if it has Denuvo or not.