Stoicism General

Its like none of you want to become Overmen or something…

ITT we discuss stoicism and its superiority as a personal philosophy for the western world

If I have learned one thing in all my time lurking over the years, on this board there are people who want to be virtuous and take action in their lives to bring about a better state of affairs. The endless debate about which 'pill' is the right pill or if Christianity is more western than Paganism seem like red herrings. Stoicism offers more practical advice, makes fewer assumptions, and leads to a higher degree of self discipline than any system of thought out there. There is no mysticism or baseless first principles. Just practical advice for being a great man. Justify not being a practitioner of it.

Also, I know there is a ton of important shit on the board right now and I hate to slide but this is important.

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you say that like theres ever been a stoicisim thread.
i deeply regret abandoning my studies of epictetus for so long but i have simply not had the time, what with going to school and working simultaneously

post more pics. tell us about stoicism senpai!

If you want to get back into Epictetus but with a more modern flavor I can't recommend reading Courage Under Fire by Admiral Stockdale enough. It just might be the most impressive tale of mental toughness and endurance I have ever read. The man endures years in a Vietnamese prison camp after being shot down. While he was floating on his parachute he is quoted as thinking "I am now leaving the world of technology and entering the world of Epictetus."

Seriously, google this guy bro

If you want the whole thing in a nutshell, this about sums it up user. But of course I'd recommend further reading. Pick up a pdf or a copy of the Meditations by Marcus Aurelius. He wrote it while on campaign in Germany while he was emperor of Rome.

thanks!

It's not because things are difficult that we dare not venture. It's because we dare not venture that they are difficult.

No worries user. This whole board is obsessed with restoring western civilization to its former glory. I'd say the pinnacle of western civilization was Imperial Rome, which Hitler actively emulated in his Reich. All of Imperial Rome's greatest leaders and thinkers were stoics yet Ive never seen a decent thread on it. Just mindless debate between "kike on a stick" and "muh paganism" larpers. Its almost like the yids don't want us discussing literally the greatest ideas western civilization ever had. Go figure.

Rome as an archtype yes, but not in practice. We should take the immense good and leave what was vastly bad. The idea of an emperor is great, but the empire he rules is the important. The conquering of Africans and Semites was Rome's ultimate undoing; we must correct that mistake.

On stoicism; never forget that a good Anglo is always a Stoic. For your reading pleasure, 'If' by Rudyard Kipling:

If you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you,
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,
But make allowance for their doubting too;
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
Or being lied about, don’t deal in lies,
Or being hated, don’t give way to hating,
And yet don’t look too good, nor talk too wise:

If you can dream—and not make dreams your master;
If you can think—and not make thoughts your aim;
If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
And treat those two impostors just the same;
If you can bear to hear the truth you’ve spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken,
And stoop and build ’em up with worn-out tools:

If you can make one heap of all your winnings
And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
And lose, and start again at your beginnings
And never breathe a word about your loss;
If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
To serve your turn long after they are gone,
And so hold on when there is nothing in you
Except the Will which says to them: ‘Hold on!’

If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
Or walk with Kings—nor lose the common touch,
If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you,
If all men count with you, but none too much;
If you can fill the unforgiving minute
With sixty seconds’ worth of distance run,
Yours is the Earth and everything that’s in it,
And—which is more—you’ll be a Man, my son!

Seneca is another great source of reading on Stoicism. He may have plotted to kill Nero, the emperor known for incest and degeneracy. This anons quote is from him. Stoicism has literally been responsible for the salvation of western civilization multiple times throughout history. I cannot stress its importance enough.