Da prolitariat hate commies and love nationalis n shiet

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They were communists and socalists who grew disillusioned with communisms views on nation and culture. You are retarded.

Why is Holla Forums convinced that class (something that is by no means permanent that one can change within their lifetime) has more influence on an individual than genetics or heritage?

Commies in [the current year] really don't understand that the only reason communism and socialism did so well in The States and Europe at a time was when the government never concerned itself with regulating workplace safety and labor laws. Now that 9 year old children aren't allowed to work 13 hour shifts for scraps at the risk of being caught inside of machinery the labor movement has finished its course. The political climate has changed a lot since then.

It's also funny how they keep shooting themselves in the foot. They want the proles to believe they are for the working man yet support the same policies as the Capitalists they dedicated their lives to opposing that replace them with third-world migrants for lower wages.

War traumatised, latent bourgeoise nuthuggers who were "disillusioned with communism" when it conflicted with their person and ideological egos. That's exactly THE crisis of fascism. Even microscopically in the early fascists the crisis of fascism comes basically when the reality of the good and truth about what needs to be done for the betterment of the proletariat comes into contact with the latent bergiouse ideology of nation, culture, beauty, history and so on. At some point you have to realize that the two can't coexist.

Fascism is almost an affirmation of the truth of communism.

You realize those are workers too right? And who said anything about lower wages? Leftists aren't going to suddenly stop when America is 100% "third-world migrants". Leftists are going to keep pushing for a higher minimum wage and more.

Fascism was received so well with the general populace because Communism destroyed any economic, agricultural, and cultural stability the countries fasci took a root in had left. And those things are not "bourgie" class ideas since almost every academic, politician, and CEO tells us about how we should throw away our petty ideas about nationalism to be be more "tolerant" and inclusive.

Again, your head is stuck in the late 1800's/ early 1900's.

Class is fixed because it requires work and effort to change. It's also something you are born into. Sound familiar?

They cant change class by whining and being lazy so thats why they invented gender bullshit, so they can claim oppression AND rise above it. So brave!

They are workers that place the native population out of work you stupid shit. Can you read?

For 2 minutes max as stated in the essay
Yeah that's a development of Capitalism too lol. Whatever esoteric and "beautiful" meaning you want to post-hoc put into nationalism and culture it doesn't change the fact that the bourgeoisie, the aristocracy and degenerate, misshapen, inbred monarchy was if not the only benefactor of the ideology, they were the propagators and creators of it at the expense of everyone else. Why wouldn't a wealthy king who has his life at risk of the people rising up against him make up some bullshit myth about him slaying a bear and conquering a new world to play to the illiterate egos of his people?

disgusting.

The people who are put out of work should be marching on Washington for a guaranteed wage, free housing, education and so on.

Communists support global labor arbitrage, therefore support the number one policy priority of capitalists. Good job retards.

Niggers aren't people.

How many times have you publically said this. Be honest.

Well, they aren't. They're joining right wing death squads and will be killing you in the near future.

So salty so quick. What happened?

Spooks

No salt. Just stating facts.

Practically every day, faggot.
Reported.

The only fact here is that there are no right-wing death squads and right-wingers get punched in the face. What means?

Simply false. That we know better than to organize on facebook like you idiots doesn't mean we aren't here.

Dickie Spencer is not a "right-winger"

Shoo shoo filthy jew, our Uncle Addie was leftist.

Reminder KARL MARX WAS A LAZY KIKE FUCK LIVING OF MONEY FROM OTHERS

If you're going to troll, at least spam your tranny porn folder like you did in the last thread please.

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"Volkish" usernames are gayer than anything on Holla Forums

That wasn't me but you argued like a fucking child, which you are doing now to because you're just copying and pasting shit from a website. Marxism didn't work back then and will not work now. Keep crying.

I don't give a shit about usernames, try grasping for other shit.

The faggots have started early today.

It's being going on all week, the same threads each time. They can't convert 4/pol/ so they try it here. Reminder that they had to shill on reddit to get users and are using bots to be higher on the UIP list. They always have to lie about shit and then weep when their boards was one of the last to be up again.

Man this video is a gold mine of e-fascist cringe.
Hilarious stuff

Not all communists are as retarded as you. Supporting immigration and global labor arbitrage is capitalist. You're a capitalist stooge.

communistpartyofireland.ie/sv2016-09/07-migration-2.html

Of course this guy is still stupid as hell and doesn't understand the entire issue, assuming wrongly that subhuman third worlders would ever be able to maintain an advanced civilization or that migration is merely for economic reasons (biggest flaw in his analysis).

Can confirm, join your University's rifle team. Hell I'm acting president of one and almost all of my officers are unironic nat socs/fascists. Seriously you'd be shocked how many people you can get to organize by just not being autistic.

Leftypol everyone.

shit anyone have that pic of that dumbass hair pornstar antifa getting her shit wrecked

Here's how I know you're a leftist retard: you think people should demand free shit instead of being able to work for it. People like bring productive and having jobs and some sort of struggle in their life. Everything goes wrong when people have too much free shit and life is too easy.

It's what she gets for appropriating black culture with those dreds. Luckily, social justice officer Damigo was on the case, to protect the PoCs culture from being gentrified by privileged white kwallege students.

oh look, the faggot is still making threads on Holla Forums

if you spent half the time reading through what was posted in one of your other threads instead of sperging out like the retard you are, you might even learn something from us. you refuse to. you resort to namecalling and whining like a bitch.

do something productive for once in your sorry life you disgusting piece of human filth.

I'm sorry to tell you guy but there are sometimes disagreements between communists.


I'm not sure if I'm going to watch two hours of this. I have seen the KulturKampf guy before. Isn't he supposed to be some smart guy philosopher or some shit? I'm not going to watch him chimpout on a twin commie he found on the street or wherever.

Someone left this comment though

*twink*

Hi, I repair emergency vehicles like ambulances and have plenty of scars on my hands to show for it. What I should be doing is killing people like you and your masters in international finance like Soros so that we can remove third-worlders and enact protectionist, isolationist policies so that my hard work is enough pay to raise a family on and so my family can live in a safer place that isn't filled with violent shitskins.

I don't want free shit. I turn down free shit. I enjoy working with my hands and creating/repairing/maintaining things. I'd much rather build my own table than be given one. You, people like you, and your thought leaders are parasites by nature and need to be removed.

There are litterally no white people in that pic and somehow that ugly fat fuck has the girl on the right. She's decent

MEANWHILE, IN THE LEFTYPOL DISCORD

Those fools post on leftypol all the time and I know you know it.

That's your problem. First you make up shit, then you just ignore it completely because others did watch it and know you're bullshitting. Every fucking time.

Again grasping for other shit, this about the video and the content of said video, not the youtube comments. Again you pick a comment you fully agree with simple because it benefits you alone.

Marxism has always been an urbanite bourgeois ideology. They have no idea what the proletariats actually want. See the War in the Vendee

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Shelter, food and education aren't "free shit". They are basic necessities that every human should have no questions asked.
Again let's all start from the most basic principle:

Ideology


In Marxism we analyze ideas, thoughts, dominant structures and so on to see if there is a secret conspirator who has an interest in those ideas, thoughts and dominant structures being mainstream. This is why we call culture, beauty, history and so on spooks. Because the statues, buildings, books, ideas dedicated to beauty, history and culture have only one benefactor and that is the aristocracy, the kings and queens, the bourgeois. Your admiration for "hard work", "struggle" and fear that everything will "go wrong when nobody can work" is the logic of capitalism fed to you through mass society, beauty, history, culture and so on. There is no truth to it.

Understanding this definition of ideology is key to understanding Marxism.

You won't though

To add the only ones chimping out and leaving are the ones they are debating, they let them all speak while the commies are stumbling over themselves constantly, it basically boils down to "it's ok if I do it" the same shit you do in other threads. You would know this if you for once take time to watch or listen to something and then come back.

I'm not here posting this shit because I dislike your ideologies or way of thinking, it's fine if people don't share my views. I'm here to make you understand that you're a shit debater and are just blatantly dumping the same shit over and over again and using typical tactics to fool people with empty and shit arguments.


And yeah, you're doing the exact same, just copying and pasting shit.

Explains to us why instead why. The whole "no questions asked" is always retarded to say.

Did you read the thread?

No, and most people won't, because you spent a whole thread ignoring information about 30 minutes ago

Everytime.


Have you? Do you even think about the shit you copy or question it? Because I'm sure you fucking don't.

Because you need food to live, because you need a house not freeze to death, because you should be able to read and write.

Lol
Your Loaded Asshole is leaking

What is the name of the discord?

Go out and do it then. Let's see those RWDS in action.
You know you're mad when you reply to a comment that wasn't even for you.

You're still not explaining why you're just stating basic needs.
We are giving Africa food, housing and education and it gets nowhere. Why would I wanna invest in people or something that add nothing at all or make advancements. It's just making them live on lifesupport, a costly one at that. You're now arguing with feelings and no logic. It's the whole r/K theory all over again.

Who cares. Their attempts at subversion are so bad, we should just let them continue to flail impotently

Only leftists would thing calling a tactic "loaded elbow" wasn't the gayest name for wrenching someone

Why would I wanna act like a degenerate and mess up things? I'm not you.

I'm just replying in a thread where you are claiming all these things, you're the one coming here all the time posting your shit and are unable to defend it. Not me, but it's clear you don't ever think and just let your feelings do the work.

Hana confirmed worst girl.

The entire problem of Africa began when the capitalist mode of production was exported there in the colonial era. So we still have a problem of Capitalism (i.e African tribes are antithetical to a competitive profit driven society). That's the entire reason for the African population boom. Tribes don't just explode in population for no reason, they were affected by something.
lmao you're just confirming what I posted about ideology. You are literally driven by profit motives and deadlines. You can't imagine something done for something other than money, science or "logic". We're back again to the entire point of fascism. A totally farcical appeal to the working classes that clashes violently when the working classes ask for a little too much, then you go back to being a salaryman, capitalist thinking about investments.

user for thousands of years there was no guarantee to that shit. the guarantee of opportunity doesn't mean the guarantee of success. the founding of the US as a frontier nation meant that colonists could stake their claim to whatever land was available provided they could defend it, and that would provide their living or die. given that there isn't any more land to be taken the question today is what does opportunity mean today in the spirit of the freedom the founders wanted. does it mean the defense of property and of laws or of redistributive shit for "social justice".

inb4 the lefty niggers start talking about anarchists in greece

In roughly 100-150 replies this thread will be full of /leftyfurrs/ cuck folder just like the last one.

What did you honestly expect?

Funniest thing is that it would be also the case with full blown commies.

Wrong, Africa was a shithole way before Europeans ever went their. In fact under European rule Africa prospered a lot more.
The Europeans used the resource from Africa, which the Africans never used because they never knew how to use it. The boom now happens because we keep giving them food, water and shelter simply because they don't have to do shit anymore. Again this links back to the r/K theory, in this case Africans are the r-side of things.

I can, I help people in my daily life for free without expecting anything back so you're wrong with that. But at one point you have to ask yourself why you would help someone that doesn't do anything himself. If you give everything to everyone constantly people get lazy not just for economic reason but lazy as in not trying to improve or help themselves out, then they start to live like cattle. Why do something if I get everything.

He is quoting a commie.

Yeah and the entire history glamorising the struggles was convinced, made, paid for, and propagated by the people who were privileged by the inequality inherent in scarcity to be born in families that didn't have to go through those struggles. Don't be spooked.

It means we're going to literally beat you to death kike.

HOL UP
YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
HOL UP
SO YOU BE SAYIN
*smacks lips*
WE WUZ KANGS AND SHIT

Even Marxists don't know what they spew.

Prove it.

By who's standards? The Europeans who didn't even know what an African was?
Prospered as in Africans got their hands cut off if they didn't pick some inbred kings cotton fast enough.
Who cares? They were happy not using it. They survived and lived happily without diamonds or whatever the fuck. Only Europeans went to war with each other almost literally going extinct because of fighting amongst themselves over gold and shiny shit.
And you can't not give them food now because you have to trade with them to satisfy a profit deadline. That's Capitalism.

Go do it then. I'm tired of you talking shit on the internet. Go make the RWDS meme are reality.

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Cool meme

We tend to not break the law, but now that you're being labeled domestic terrorists it perfectly legal to defend myself in public from terrorists. ;^)

READ MARX
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PEACE

No by their own records. You know you can write down history right? You know that people can tell what they went through right?

Which happened mostly because the Africans where the ones selling their own people the most to Europeans. Blame them as they also traded and sold their own people way before Europeans ever sat foot on Africa.

We did, they didn't, we used what we needed at that time. Their own problem for not understand the use of the resources they have.

What about the Chinese? What about the Japs? What about the Africans killing and raping tribes that didn't want to fight? What about The Indians killing and murdering other tribes because they could? Again you ignore everything because your arguments fail.


Then why are we still giving them food via programs constantly? The only profit those programs can make is the money they are given and have to pocket themselves illegally. There is barely anything to make from these programs to begin with


Meme or not, it is still true.

first of all how can you be privileged by the "inequality inherent in scarcity"? and because some peoples parents were successful on the frontier that means everybody needs free shit? is that what you are trying to say?

Yeah, run again now that none can spam your shitty thread up with jewish porn. Typical

When you give all this free food, housing, and education to everyone who pays for it? Because we already practically bankrupt the US just doing this for niggers and they are only around 16% of the US.

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because he inherently values life instead of only valuing life that is worth something. doesnt matter if youre a drooling idiot who cant figure out how to use a shovel. you need to be provided free food and housing because in the past white men were successful in building civilization.

Well yeah I understood that but I wanted him to tell me how he expects to feed and house everyone for free when 16% of the US population nearly bankrupts the country when we give them welfare.

That's what they all say. That's what their whole ideology says. You're not allowed to have it better but everyone is allowed to have it worse.

communists are nothing more than tools for the international capitalists who seek to transform humanity into a sea of consumers with no identity

Simple, he thinks that getting rid of capitalism well solve all those problems. Which it wont, communism is a huge trap that is avoided by people that think twice.

Well, they did a bad job with regular communism then. Cultural communism worked wonders, however.

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Pretty much this. There is a saying the best Communist are Capitalist because they actually read Marx and understand it so they Captialize on the dumb masses.

Friendly reminder that people like are the reason Filter ID exists.

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The funniest thing is Communisim will never ever work in a country like America. The idea of individual freedom is to strongly ingrained into the people along the idea any person who works hard can rise from nothing into the wealthy which happens a lot more then the Kikes and their puppets will ever admit. It's why the Kikes had to turn to subversion and eroding the moral base of the country they simply can not win without brainwashing. Fucking Kikes and their slaves.

Communism well never work anywhere.

Yes they are as someone has to PAY FOR THEM.
no the entire problem with Africa is NIGGERS. Did the white man steal their IQ? The funny thing is today there are still more valuable resources in Africa than the rest of the world combine yet niggers slide further and further toward the stone age again as they kick all the h'whites out. The chinks on the other hand who are moving in don't have our morals and will rape the continent blind not building a single hospital or school for the locals.

We never should have suffered them to live in the first place. Had the countries of Europe imitated America's Amerindian policy, we would never have been in this mess to begin with.

and flood the place to force everyone into overcrowded cities where they become degenerates

Dude, NOBODY FUCKING CARES!

Gommunism is the worlds biggest failure, and nobody gives a shit about it except a bunch of freaks, adult children, and vermin.

I was under impression that the SA Bantustans were essentially like the native american reservations in the US.

My point is that we should have slaughtered them to irrelevance.

Off topic for this thread but currently in lit and philosophy departments in wackademia "professors" consistently use marxist.org as a "research source". I called my profs out in front of the class on it and they tried saying "but user it's just the name of the site they aren't really promoting marxism". In turn I wrote topics emphasizing the importance and morality of eugenics using that shitty cesspit of an ideological site. Fucking commie faggots getting paid 60k+ stipends to talk about labor and moral inequality, gets my blood up I tell you.

Why do you think they've done everything they can to turn America into some Brazilian freak show

(((World War I))) happened though.

Nothing new here

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lulz

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