American Intuition vs. European Intellect

Yet they elected nigger as a president twice.

It’s proven that 2012 was stolen and new evidence has shown that even 2008 may have been totally stolen, too. Try harder, D&C faggot.

Being Canadian I was pozzed as can be but then I desired to travel in Europe as youth generally do only to find hoards and hoards of non-whites, sometimes outnumbering whites themselves, in white lands of origin. It was then I became unbearably angry and other feelings I've never felt before. It makes sense why there would be non-whites in North and South America or outside white lands of origin but Europe? Enraged. I wonder if there are others who felt the same maybe Australians who went. If I could sacrifice all North America and the like for Europe just to save the European race, I would do so in an instant.

Sauce pls?

I personally think a lot of that has to do with America being such a young nation, and one that has a direct blood connection to those that settled and pioneered the territory. To tame such land, such beasts, one must become more in tune with nature, and with natural law, and while beautiful and bountiful, nature is vicious and unforgiving. Not much time is allowed for "informed, well thought out decisions" so one must learn and learn quickly to trust in the natural/savage gut feelings one receives. The subconscious, animal side of Man is attune to more things than we realize consciously.

I have thought a lot about this. I think that individualism is an arguably Anglo concept that is largely sustained by British people (English, Scottish, Irish). I include all of Britain because it extends the view to the US, Canada, Australia, NZ, which are generally free states, and freer than many European ones. Americans are the ultimate source of freedom in the world against Zog, no matter how far we have descended. By all estimations, Americans - as in, descendants of the original colonists - are the people who most understand and desire freedom in the world. In all, I think Celto-Germanic people, together or separate, are the world's best hope for sustaining any form of freedom.

You got me thinking.
Perhaps intuition is an error-controlled regulator that, when properly designed, facilitates correct decision-making, even when we lack the intellectual knowledge to make such a change in our thinking. In information theory, the channel which cancels out noise in a line must have the same variety in transition states as the channel being error-controlled. In other words, I'd say our focus on intuition must be equal to our focus on intellect in order to achieve a perfect signal - if we are imagining them as channels of information.

OP, i believe it to be true. Intellect is a good asset but it's limited. This could be an interesting discussion. I think this intuition is why the "Trump blackpill" shill campaign failed. We can sort of read his maneuvers except on the rare occasion where he does something that makes everyone freak out, like the Syrian airfield initially did.

It'd be great if the Europeans had some of our stuff. And if we had some of what enabled them to develop much of the modern world.

Though, what works when all choices are bad? Remember Bush vs Gore, Bush vs Kerry, McCain vs Obama, and Romney vs Obama? God damn things were awful. I never want to see America like that again.

Britain is an island nation and thus, the British people have always been a sea-faring people. Being surrounded by ocean on all sides inspires a pull to explore - to go where no man has gone before and colonize distant lands. I believe that this latent desire is the source of Anglo-Celtic individualism. In order to explore the unknown, one has to step outside of their traditional boundaries in both a physical and metaphysical sense. The will and desire to explore the unknown is an attribute of individualistic thought. That is, to think outside of the context of the traditions and mores of one's society. In its worst form, this attribute leads to degeneracy and vice but at its best, it produces national greatness.

America was built by the same European pioneers that went to Ancient India, Greece, Rome, South Africa and Rhodesia, with the same will to discover and tame new environments. America was also built with the desire to free the Whites from ploutocrats slavery at heart.
Many American Whites still have this in their blood. Few Whites living in Europe now have kept this.

Not true OP, niggers also make decisions that way.

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Part of the problem has been discussed here before. Modern Europeans are far removed from their animal instincts. Afraid of them, in the worst cases.

And so do kikes. Which is why Europeans are having such a hard time with them right now. Imagine how much better the last French election would have gone if the French could maneuver like us! I refuse to believe that Europeans are incapable though. People who can develop things like Porsches and Ferrarris must be real beasts on some level. How to make Euro cool again?

Nuanced post, user. I do not know if Britain being an island nation is the source of our individualism, though. For example, we had to get to Britain first, suggesting we already had this spirit to explore. Furthermore, there were other nomadic types, and plenty of other island nations that never developed a high culture or individualism for that matter. Anyway, your point about the desire to explore the unknown as an attribute of individualism with the degenerate potentialities is interesting. We have to walk a fine line between rabid individualism and soulless collectivism.

I have been researching this line of thought, user. Such as that the Old Celtic language is similar or the same as Phoenician; the stories of red-haired and blonde-haired conquerors of old around the world; the genetic relationship between some Ancient Egyptian Pharaohs and Western European males, and some Western European mummies in China. Are we the remnants of Atlantis? (Based on my current understanding, I would see Atlantis as the epitome of our intuitive civilization whereas today we are reaching the epitome of intellectual/rational civilization. Does sustained success, avoiding the fate of Atlantis, require a merger of the two civilizations?

This is also something I have wondered about. How much of Europe's vigor was lost through migration to the Americas and Australia? Sometimes one might be hard-pressed to believe that Americans are genetically European because our views on certain things seem starkly different. For example, I am not sure that any people in the world prefers small government more than those who identify only as "American" (and are of Colonial stock).

No. What you call "intellectual/rational civilization" is a meme that only prevents the human spirit from exploring new ways of thinking, finding out new discoveries, and engaging new fights. We're basically being bullied to think, act and work conforming to non-natural (((standards))) and this is going to change dramatically. It's not wishful thinking, we're just following the cycle.

Not to D&C but fuck the British anglos, and being of Celtic blood I refuse to lumped in with those niggers than completely ruined the modern world.
Sage for offtopic but seriously fuck the British and fuck you for equating my people with those niggers. British anglos are next to kikes and Britain deserves all the muzzie rape she endures for her past crimes against the Celts and Germany.
Again FUCK ANGLOS GET RAPED TO DEATH BY MUHAMED

That's a very interesting analysis. I remember reading a book called "The Decline of American Intellectualism" when I was still a liberal retard. Even at the time, the premise seemed off. Every example of the right wing's overreach and hysteria that was brought up missed an arguable dissenting opinion. The reasoning behind something like not covering pornography under the first amendment was never even touched upon. That book was eye-opening to me, even in my leftist stupor, because it showed the complete lack of basis the left operated on. It gave me the impression that they were scared of an argument rather than attempting to engage their opponent.

Sorry for the rant, it just is so indicative of the mindset right now. I'm an American and I see what you're saying, what I would add is that European logic-driven thought is just subverted right now in a different way. European sensibility is now perverted in a pathology with the veneer of intellectualism. Europeans have a ton of great qualities that are sorely lacking in many white Americans but some of the subconscious queues are not addressed in Europe.

Rotherham is the example I always jump to just because it's illustrative of what I'm trying to say on a huge scale. There are 1,400 little girls, almost exclusively native European, being preyed upon. The government didn't want to do anything about it and the travesty continues right now. Every other horrible detail aside, what does that say about the values of the people in charge? We pick up on self-worth through many vectors, parents, society, and a ton of other sources. This necessarily will come from without and not within, simply because there are far more things outside yourself than within, you only have one center of self-worth while the larger world has a million different ways of showing what you mean.

Rotherham is a value statement in an unmistakable way. This is where demoralization comes from, everyone who sees this fucking atrocity or the Swedes letting off child rapists, or the new years mass-rapes and doesn't see any effort to stop these things will subconsciously be shown that they are just not worth it, that Paki rapists are more valuable in the eyes of collective society (represented by the government because people think democracy works) than their victims. We're social creatures, crave hierarchy, and knowing our roles so when folks see that kind of garbage being perpetuated again and again, they lose the sense of 'my people matter'. Instead, they may be saddened by those heinous actions but have difficulty seeing why it shouldn't happen. Sharia law and talmudism both push this sort of sensibility on conquered or subverted peoples, when enough randomized brutality is inflicted the collective worth of a people goes down the drain and they will work instead to ask it to stop (giving their will over to others) instead of retaliating. It's the same sort of dumb bullshit that gets under everyone's skin without them consciously being aware of terms like "white boy" which emasculates white men or disgusting cuckoldry like the "BBC" (both the network and porn term). It's all semantic word games to reinforce social conditioning.

The only reason we're any different is because we know history and know about race. We're all taught liberal guilt and revisionist moralizing just to keep us from realizing the one simple truth:
We matter

Even though things seem dark in Europe right now, once the ball gets rolling over there things will change very rapidly. America is in for a much more drawn out social conflict due to the same reasons that we may seem less afflicted with cultural marxism.

Kikes utilize a pretty standard playbook and script. This is evidenced in the meme Holla Forums was right again the only way this meme can exist is if the Eternal jew is highly predictable. Another meme that suggests a pattern of behaviors is "kvetch" which some of us have identified with the natural reaction of a kike to being called out. One reason that the jew seems to operate on an intuitive level is that their scheme has been developed over millennia, gotta give them props for thinking through the whole world domination thing. Also, they co-opt greedy Whites to their cause and thus piggyback off of White intuition/ingenuity.

I see your point about it being a meme, but I don't think we should just leave out rationality as a component of a Golden Age Yuga. Of course, the overall cycle implies what will be will be.

Methinks you should direct your hostility toward the British Anglo aristocracy. I think it's a tough position to argue that Englishmen, Scotsmen, and Irishmen didn't constitute the core elements of the American Founding Fathers. Then, the English, Scottish, and Irish composed a great deal of the American Colonial population. Germans were arriving early on, too, but I am not aware that they played as large a role in the direct construction of American government. In other words, sorry pal, but as an American with English, German, and Scotch-Irish ancestry, I gotta say yer wrong.

If we can stop immigration now I think we can assimilate the hordes of non-whites. Americans have a key advantage over the continental Europeans: many people want to come here to adopt the concept of being American. Problem is, they only have a McDonald's-tier idea of what it means to be American free, and the descendants of the Colonials are apparently too cucked to say anything about it off of image boards. Real Americans (Colonial descendants who only identify as American, primarily they are of British (English, Scottish, Irish, and to a lesser-extent German) descent) must step up and show the hordes what it means to be American if we hope to assimilate them. If assimilation is not in the cards then

You're in the wrong place, go back to T_D. This is a racial issue, not a cultural one.

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I'll admit it is the British Anglo aristocracy but the point remains that they did their damnedest to exterminate the Irish and I still refuse to be lumped in with their filth.
The British are the lowest class of whites. I'll take a brit over a shitskin but I'd rather have anyother white.
Trying to genocide the Irish then destroying Hitler's Germany means the British are permanently in the shit book and get no sympathy for whatever retarded leftest policies of importing shitskins brings them.

Whilst I like to see some inspirational threads, I'm not entirely sure I agree with this one. Seems to be more a case of Americans do that thing Americans do best; bragging when they have no right to.

The USA is, unfortunately, in a worse state than any European nation (potentially Germany and Sweden are worse - the fact they refuse to document anything makes it pretty much impossible for us to tell).

This is an interesting post and there's certainly a difference in the character of the Anglo when compared to the rest of Europe. The Anglo has an obsession with 'fairness' which makes it difficult to push them too far once they become aware that there is a problem - although they do seem awfully slow in their ability to realise that there is a problem. I think it's unfair to a lot of other Europeans to claim the Brits have a claim to 'FREEDERM' - as whilst obviously Mel Gibson movies present it as a uniquely Scottish phenomenon; you'll find that 'freedom' has been an ideal of the French, Spanish, Portuguese, Italians, Polish, Hungarians, Greeks and really just about everyone. Many of these nations were under the yoke of islam for a time and thus bred a 'freedom' culture which still, to some extent, persists to this day. Those that didn't like France and England nonetheless were still obsessed with the concept - the French literally naming themselves after it (Frank means free - "Let me speak frankly" means "let me speak freely") and the English have had laws maintaining their freedom as "Slaves cannot breathe in England; if their lungs, Receive our air, that moment they are free,They touch our country and their shackles fall."

It is the character of fair-play that marks the Anglos out, and when they think they are being screwed they stand up against it. This likely has roots in Magna Carta and the idea of 'Common Law', something alien to the rest of Europe - and sadly something that no longer exists in either the USA or the UK with people deemed 'too rich to jail' - its spirit persists with the everyman however.

Burn in hell kike.

Sorry my deluded Ameribro but they do not. Your Spics speak Spanish, your Negroes do not work, even your Irish still insist on being referred to as Irish-Americans. There is no integration - its apparent existence comes only from there being no dominant culture left for these other cultures to clash with. There are of course a few who go to the US with a desire to live in that culture - just as there are a few Indians and Poles who go the UK desiring their culture. At the end of the day however they are minority, and even if they were not they can never truly belong because they can never truly see the world as the natives do.

You know the Irish literally genocided 99% of Scots, right? Keep crying about a famine from centuries ago you potato nigger.

Whilst I like to see some inspirational threads, I'm not entirely sure I agree with this one. Seems to be more a case of Americans do that thing Americans do best; bragging when they have no right to.

The USA is, unfortunately, in a worse state than any European nation (potentially Germany and Sweden are worse - the fact they refuse to document anything makes it pretty much impossible for us to tell).

This is an interesting post and there's certainly a difference in the character of the Anglo when compared to the rest of Europe. The Anglo has an obsession with 'fairness' which makes it difficult to push them too far once they become aware that there is a problem - although they do seem awfully slow in their ability to realise that there is a problem. I think it's unfair to a lot of other Europeans to claim the Brits have a claim to 'FREEDERM' - as whilst obviously Mel Gibson movies present it as a uniquely Scottish phenomenon; you'll find that 'freedom' has been an ideal of the French, Spanish, Portuguese, Italians, Polish, Hungarians, Greeks and really just about everyone. Many of these nations were under the yoke of islam for a time and thus bred a 'freedom' culture which still, to some extent, persists to this day. Those that didn't like France and England nonetheless were still obsessed with the concept - the French literally naming themselves after it (Frank means free - "Let me speak frankly" means "let me speak freely") and the English have had laws maintaining their freedom as "Slaves cannot breathe in England; if their lungs, Receive our air, that moment they are free,They touch our country and their shackles fall."

It is the character of fair-play that marks the Anglos out, and when they think they are being screwed they stand up against it. This likely has roots in Magna Carta and the idea of 'Common Law', something alien to the rest of Europe - and sadly something that no longer exists in either the USA or the UK with people deemed 'too rich to jail' - its spirit persists with the everyman however.

Burn in hell kike.

Sorry my deluded Ameribro but they do not. Your Spics speak Spanish, your Negroes do not work, even your Irish still insist on being referred to as Irish-Americans. There is no integration - its apparent existence comes only from there being no dominant culture left for these other cultures to clash with. There are of course a few who go to the US with a desire to live in that culture - just as there are a few Indians and Poles who go the UK desiring their culture. At the end of the day however they are minority, and even if they were not they can never truly belong because they can never truly see the world as the natives do.

You know the Irish literally genocided 99% of Scots, right? Keep crying about a famine from centuries ago you potato nigger.

You're right, I shouldn't be posting at this hour. For some reason, I slipped into a romantic ideal of a bygone era.
This is true, but I hardly consider them "immigrants" since all they did was hop a fence to get here.
The ethical question of what to do with our forefathers' leftover farm tools is one for the ages.
Maybe some newfag Irish, or the ones who have stuck in dense enclaves, like in Boston. But I have Irish ancestry that predates the Union and me and my people are only American. I am confident that all NW European ethnic groups have found their place in America, and I believe they all have their rightful place. Everyone else…

The fuck are you talking about anglo aristocracy?
The original aristocracy comes from the Norman's and the aristocracy for the last 100 years has been German-Jew hybrids.

Don't do this. Assimilation is just Brazilification.

Cool your jets, man. I mean whoever is calling the shots.Your average Anglo has no desire to eliminate the Irish. The Irish and Anglos have been marrying for centuries.

Would be cool if we could retroactively remove citizenship from all non-Europeans who have arrived since 1965. As for blacks, the question of what to do there is a bit different given the context of how they arrived it's tougher ethically. Maybe restore the subject-citizen distinction, making all non-whites in America subjects of the state rather than citizens, and offer free trips to Liberia?
Sorry for double post

We relied on rationality and logic for the whole thing, you fucking moron.

Brits are also the only whites to genocide subhumans when they deemed them so. The wogs in Australia (to the last man in Tasmania) and the Native Amerians in America. And from that genocide arose two first-world powerhouses.

Good post. I agree with you. People seem to have no idea how well the have beem programmed into helplessness. Even people who I know are aware of how kiked the media is still consume some of the more innocuous mainstream stuff because they feel that they are smart enough to see through the propaganda. They might see through the obvious shit, but even people that I consider fairly bright seem to underestimate how much subconscious anti-white propaganda is actually present, if they think about it at all.
I would like to add that many European people are pseudointellectuals and basically parrot what the news and universities teach them. They know there are problems but don't know what the solutions are and most would refuse to try anything even if they did because many have a firm belief that the governement will fix it because it always knows what's best (this idea is particularly common in the Nordic countries). They are demoralized and just waiting for someone or something to make it stop. Any rebellious individuals are kept in check by peer pressure, and those that overcome it are ostracized by their fellow citizens and, at worst, persecuted by quasi-police state governements. That's western and northern Europe at least. Central and Eastern Europeans are more aware of reality and more understanding about what the problems actually are. They are just blackpilled as fuck because of years of getting pushed around by corrupt, shitty governements.

European jealousy isn't very attractive, is it.

I agree with the sentiment, but the issue of resources arises.
If europeans only had europe, they would be short of some very important natural resources that would put them at the mercy of those who do have them, for example oil producing countries.

Reminder that Isaac Newton, Tesla, NatSoc scientists and basically all truly great scientists and inventors heavily studied the esoteric.

This is a known phenomena.

If that was actually true you would think there wouldn't be more kikes living in the US than Israel

Good posts. If there's anything about the boomers I hate more than their laziness, it's their enforced blackpilling and how suddenly they drown themselves in distractions to forget the awful truths they just learned. And if anyone decides to retaliate on the behalf of the white folk, the very same boomers rat them out to the cucks in charge for a small dopamine reward or some petty cash, and go right back to the daily news and sportsball and yell at anyone calling out the tv's lies. They are so fucking soft, and they side with our invaders while hating their guts, because they subconsiously believe they will instantly go to jail if they commit one act of wrongthink or one act of self defense.

It's getting bad in Canada, Toronto especially. I would not be suprised if it became protocol for RCMP to hold down white women for shitskins to rape them, they are that cucked.

This is a great post, and something I've been thinking about a lot lately, especially given the data-driven (((scientistic))) materialist culture of the university in which I currently find myself.

With everything from cancer, to diet and exercise, to political decisions and opinions, I've found myself relying more and more on an intuition based on certain premises than on relying on (((studies))), which my bio friends mostly tell me are not even repeatable half the time.

These few premises, such as nature, whites, freedom == good, the opposites of those == bad, allow me to make decisions about things that work out in a good way.

E.g., this led me to support trump before I knew much about specific issues, it led me to develop a diet and lifestyle that has made me much healthier, and the list continues.

I was even joking to my based friend the other day about how I've developed a "sixth sense" in determining whether things are bad or good, and this is in large part due to hanging out on here.

However, when it comes to most other Americans (specifically those OP is discussing), I think much of their patriotism and religiosity leads them to similar conclusions "even if they don't know the real reasons for it".

E.g., all the patriots in most of the states have been buying up guns in record numbers for decades. If you talk to most of them, they aren't racist, and they have an unquestioning support of the (((neocons))) in the federal government. Nevertheless, they are stock piling weapons because of what I would say is a "gut feeling" that something is or will be wrong, and they need to protect themselves.

Similarly, their wariness of abortion is founded from a potentially tenuous theological perspective; however, the conclusion is right in that abortion and birth control will reduce the number of white babies being born. They don't know that these are the consequences of their thinking, but that's not the point. They know that it feels right.

The same thing with muslims– these people most likely are not 1488ing on the internet all day. They probably don't like living around blacks, but they aren't about to start a race war either. With the muslims, it's different. Even though (((they))) will cite statistics about this or that number are peaceful, the American's who were discussing take one look and hate them, saying "they don't like freedom" or "they're heathens" or some other thing.

Where this whole intuition thing goes wrong, however, *and I think Holla Forums improves upon this* is the lack of engaging with the intellect or Logos, as another user said. This is how they fall prey to our (((overlords)))– they are either unwilling or unable to engage with the intellectual history of their people and religion which would ultimately lead them to the unfortunate conclusions that are so difficult to accept. Getting them to read more books and open their minds to uncomfortable ideas would help in this regard, but unfortunately the modern Christian tendency to close the minds of its followers will make this difficult.

As a final sidenote, there are three things at play which I believe need to be integrated for this to work and a people to succeed:
First we have the intellect, which is the obvious one but the one that Europeans have been focusing on to their own detriment since the Enlightenment. In hinduism this would be "gnani" which means knowledge (similar to the greek "gnosis").
Second is the intuitive sense that is being discussed in this thread. This would be "bhakti" in Hinduism, which in that context more specifically means "devotion", which we can think of as just feeling the power of the creator, without necessarily thinking about it.
Lastly is action, which is what we rail against the blackpills for their lack in this regard. If you have the knowledge and the intuition, but fail to do anything about it, then that gets you (((nowhere))). In hinduism this is termed "dharma".

It's pretty interesting how this trinity is dealt with similarly by Hinduism and Christianity, the former of which is quite clearly indo-european in origin, while the latter is thought to be semetic but may very well not be entirely, given the uncertain anthropology of the original Israelites and the tenuous connection between the New and Old Testaments.

One more thing– all three are needed in a society that wants to prosper, and the best example of this is in the Hindu caste system; which, ironically enough, parallels the hierarchy put forward in Plato's "Republic" and in the traditional hierarchy of all indo-european societies. This is usually fulfilled by the priestly class representing "gnani", the warrior class (rulers) representing "dharmi", and the merchants/artisans/everyone else representing "bhakti".

For more on the indo-european thing check this out norse-mythology.org/indo-europeans-matter/

Also in the same book, Plato's whole purpose is to discuss the nature of the soul, which he claims has three parts: the spiritive part, the rational part, and the apetitive (animal) part.

This internal division of the human soul reflects the external division of his society.

I believe this originated in the early days of American colonialism. While European intellect is great in a stable and settled environment, Americans had to contend with an unexplored wilderness filled with hostile locals and wildlife. In situations like this, quick thinking with a "gut feeling" can save somebody's life. This "gut feeling" is what an American falls back on when they are pressured. In times of calmness and safety, Americans can use intellect just as easily as a European can.

This is not to say that this intuition leads to bad decisions, it is usually based on prior knowledge and knowing approximately what the best solution could be. This usually leads to an acceptable solution. A European could find a better solution than an American could, but would take far longer to reach it.

This intuition is not just unique to Americans. Europeans also have it, but usually prefer to use hard intellect to solve problems. Other colonised nations, such as Canada and Australia also have this intuition.