Hitler's questionable/outright confusing acts in world war II

Sorry if this thread is a repost but I haven't seen a single thread addressing this.
Does anyone have any explanation for Hitler doing things in WWII that didn't make sense or that were simply outright counter productive? for example (off the top of my head).
Unfortunately there is not nearly enough information on this around the internet and I believe this helps serve kike interests as it allows them to perpetuate the idea that Hitler was insane and had no idea what he was doing.
Now I'm not inclined to believe this at all because Hitler was a good tactician and leader, however these actions simply have no immediate justification in my mind. Which begs the question, why?

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He didn't really ally with the USSR. It was an agreement of non aggression. National Socialists and communists never really got along and the agreement assured USSR wouldn't attack if Germany invaded Poland (right away). Then Hitler did the pre-emptive strike against them before they were ready because he knew the non-aggression would never last. It was extremely successful and the front lines were far into Russia. He spent a lot of time in Stalingrad trying to take it because not only would it have demoralized the Soviets for taking the city that is named after their leader, but also for the oil supply lines. Most moves were extremely calculated carefully but there's only so much you can do when the world allies against you.

never happened, they had a non-aggression agreement which Hitler eventually broke
Russia wasn't Russian controlled as much as America isn't currently American controlled - he knew the backstab was coming and tried to take them by surprise; the war would've been very different had the Germans managed to go past Stalingrad. Hell, even the Russians themselves would've never experienced the horrors of the USSR

Tbh at the time it's easy to understand why many would think it's a power grab and would oppose Hitler, but history's proven him 100% right

It was a nonaggression pact with what he believed was a powerful foreign state. Germans remembered having to fight a war on two fronts in World War 1 and didn't want to divert manpower from France. As it turned out, France crumbled with barely a fight and the British ran away. He witnessed that the Soviet Union was a paper tiger during their invasion of Poland and war with Finland. Furthermore, he earnestly believed the English couldn't possibly be such good goys as to betray their people and empire for kikes. He was wrong and his peace offers were spurned by an obese alcoholic traitor masquerading as national hero.
The war with Britain seemed largely over. If the Japanese had kept up their side of the bargain and kept up the pressure, instead of gobbling up islands in the Pacific, the Axis forces may well have won.

Op needs to read a book. There is alot of information on this subject. There are whole sections of libraries and bookstores devoted to this topic.

The internet is awash with documentaries on the subject.

Simple answer, Germany did not want to open a second front with Russia whilst fighting the Allies. Russia was woefully under prepared and wanted to buy time to industrialize and arm up before declaring war. So it suited both at the time but a non agression pact, not an alliance.

Germany got wind of Russia s planned attack and pre emted it.

But you're wrong, the Commies broke the NAP by moving troops into Slavic countries, Poland aside. There was almost a war on-the-spot between NSDAP and the Commies in 1939 immediately after the "invasion" of Poland to reclaim native German lands.

The Germans were not dumb, their aerial photography in the East caught the Red fuckers as soon as they started mobilizing troops outside of Russia. The agreement was that Russia wouldn't make ANY attempt at expansion to the West, period. While Hitler wasn't allied with some of those nations, the very second that Stalin allowed soldiers to leave Russian borders was a violation.

As usual, even redpilled people here still believe Jew lies about WW2. Germany never ever did anything wrong, literally all they EVER did was try to get back their shit that was stolen from them post-WW1.

So bearing all of this in mind, what was the cause of the massive fuck up that halted Nazi momentum in Russia? I've heard it had something to do with Hitler having to redirect troops to Greece, which was invaded (badly) by Italy; against Hitler's wishes/without his knowledge.

Two premises:
1- Don't be condescending, user.
2- I concede I did not read the original text of the treaty and hence am potentially subject to distortion.

It seems your objection hinges on "germany broke the non-aggression pact"; I claim that moving troops at the border even in a seemingly hostile fashion is heavily different from an actual invasion or fucking blitzkrieging your way through a nation.

In fact, on this, you're being a fanboy and making excuses - why the hell would the USSR (regardless of whom controlled it) feel comfortable and secure with that agreement while Germany grew and expanded? A show of force isn't the same as a declaration of war

This isn't to say "hitler did something wrong", mind you, but I see no grounds for denying that he broke that treaty.

As mentioned; it was a non-aggression pact which neither side had an intention of keeping. Because Poland was in the middle, they shared no common border (which was needed for a war). Hitler wanted to take Russia and destroy the (((bolsheviks))) before they invaded Europe.


Hitler found out that Soviet was planning to invade. They had a fuckton of military stuff on the border to "Germany" at the time of invasion, outnumbering the Germans by FAR in all aspects. If Hitler had waited for an invasion, he would have been outnumbered (which he was anyway) so the only way was to blitz-strike, take out their air-forces (within bombing range) and make them retreat. It was a huge success.

Pic related; official numbers from Wiki, but many sources claim Soviet had even more than this. When they crumbled, their policy of machine-gunning down retreating troops cost them a lot…

And also

Almost no one declared war on Hitler yet, it was later with British assistance that her old colonies and allies declared war.

...

WRONG.

It was a NAP, which the Soviets broke by invading Finland and the baltics. The reason Hitler invaded the USSR was because they were planning an offensive to take over Europe. The Germans beat them to it by a week, absolutely destroyed their invading forces, and launched operation Barbarossa to take out the commies before they could outfit an army with decent weapons.

3 reich need wheat, oil, coal….that type of stuff. At the time they were under sanctions and soviet union was only country willing to deliver who had that type of resources. In exchange soviet union received weapons, military technology and civilian machinery

you can find more here

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi–Soviet_economic_relations_(1934–41)

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German–Soviet_Commercial_Agreement_(1940)

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German–Soviet_Credit_Agreement_(1939)

For example ural motorcylce was "modeled after a late-1930s BMW sidecar bike called the R71, which Nazi Germany provided to the Soviet Union after the countries signed a nonaggression pact in 1939."
3 reich stole all gold it could but it did not have enough to pay for delivery of goods. And they attacked insted of paying their bills.

You should know that 3 reich was at the time broke. reich mark was worth nothing and there they could only trade in gold. And gold was transfered through switzerland to some other parties. It is explained in this documentary
youtube.com/watch?v=veQfroRUWdM

it was georgian controlled. Stalin was from georgia. He either transfered jews to far east or killed them (trotsky, Kamenev) or imprisoned them (Zinoviev)

No, it did not. soviet union didn't even think about attacking 3 reich. Why would they, soviet union just delivered:

Between January 1940 and date of the German invasion, the total Soviet export to the Germany estimated at 597.9 million Reichsmarks. The German deliveries accounted as 437.1 million Reichsmarks.[1] The agreements continued Nazi–Soviet economic relations and resulted in the delivery of large amounts of raw materials to Germany, including over 900,000 tons of oil, 1,600,000 tons of grain and 140,000 tons of manganese ore.

hitler was thinking about invading sooner but italians did not secure greece. if you look at the map you have to have greece to secure you flank

Absolutely fucking false. The Soviet documents detailing their invasion plans have been declassified years ago.

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Even in the midst of the worst pograms, Jews ran the Soviet Union. Jews were the only people in that country who could come and go as they pleased. On this particular point, about two decades ago, I was shocked to (personally) learn that Jews could enter and exit the Soviet Union freely. I was already redpilled on the JQ, but I didn't fully realize just how thoroughly their lies twisted everything around. With their constant complaining, and the bullshit their media tells us, they made out that they were being persecuted under Soviet rule. In fact the exact opposite was true. Jews ran the Soviet Union like their own personal human zoo.

Jews love to be the victims so much that they make up stories about it.

There are also documents detailing the plan of America annexing Canada at the same time, what is your comment on that?

If you really know that much about soviet union you could answer this simple question:

These are members of the first Politburo (7): Lenin, Zinoviev, Kamenev, Trotsky, Stalin, Sokolnikov and Bubnov.

How many are jews ? how many survived purges and how many were imprisoned ?

For example, name, date of death and cause of death, prison in time of purges (yes or no). And of course are they jewish

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_offensive_plans_controversy#Points
sott.net/article/354367-Russian-MoD-declassifies-documents-on-Soviet-Unions-preparedness-for-1941-Nazi-invasion


I'm not educated on that particular part of WW2, but it does sound plausible.

The fact of the matter is, Hitler saved europe from the commies.

I was trying to kike you out on saying "but its preparation plans" to shut your other statement down but now I realize I should've said it outright; so allow me to repeat, it is simply a preparation plan as military strategy requires preparing for all possibilities.
So that's why commies took more land straight after WW2 you idiot? And also why they're around right now? If anything Poland and Finland """saved""" it more than Hitler.

>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_offensive_plans_controversy#Points
from the same article
While most agree that Stalin made extensive preparations for an eventual war and that he exploited the military conflict in Europe to his advantage, the assertions that Stalin planned to attack Nazi Germany in the summer of 1941, and that Operation Barbarossa was a preemptive strike by Hitler, are generally discounted
Give me something else. not opinion of defector who is writing fiction books
>sott.net/article/354367-Russian-MoD-declassifies-documents-on-Soviet-Unions-preparedness-for-1941-Nazi-invasion

The answers show disparity among various units, some of which were poorly-suited to perform their duties, while others managed to mount counterattacks. Some officers recall a shortage of trained officers and materiel, lack of communications equipment and transport, and other factors plaguing their troops and HQs.

There is nothing in there about planing attack on 3 reich. it is report to analyze performance. it actually shows that soviet union wasn't ready for attack by 3 reich. And they were not planning to attack.

I know what I ran into: Soviet citizens vacationing freely in certain places in the world, such as Brazil. I had a long conversation (I knew enough Russian to recognize it) with one group of them over drinks, sitting in the shade. I was so certain that Jews were persecuted in Russia, how was that they were vacationing in Brazil? Whether it was the drinks or the heat, they disavowed me of the myths I had grown up with: that Jews were victims. Instead, they convinced me that the Soviet Union was their playground, that they ran it for themselves. Indeed, I was sitting with proof of that Soviet Jews could travel about or even freely leave the Soviet Union when no one else could.

That's what I know.

>(((most agree))) Hitlah was a genicidal maniac who gassed everyone who wasn't 7ft tall, blonde & blue eyed, so your evidence means nothing
I can't be arsed to spoonfeed you historically illiterate burgers. I'm not here to tell you what to think, i'm here to get you to question the kosher approved narrative. Do you faggots even know about the thousands of Finnish jews fighting side by side with the ebil genocidal nazis against the communists? Of course not, that's never mentioned in your kiked out history classes.

There were soviet citizens going on vacations around the world at different times in history. Soviet union wast closed country. This is nothing unusual.


Nothing unusual in that


This is because MSM (jewish?) propaganda ?
Some jews were persecuted in soviet union. Thruth be told, stalin did not like them. he even removed them to far east en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Autonomous_Oblast

But at latter times they were treated as all other citizens. it is a different topic if we are talking about post 90 period. In that period jewish influence was very strong and they basically were running the show- this time youtube.com/watch?v=uD4qNG8I1E4

Not soviet union. Maybe you are thining about time after 1990 ? before putin came to power ?

it is not true. There were restrictions but people could travel. It was not unusual. bigger problem was money (as exchange rate) then permission to travel.

i am not calming you are wrong. But i think you have some assumptions that are wrong.

>(((most agree))) Hitlah was a genicidal maniac who gassed everyone who wasn't 7ft tall, blonde & blue eyed, so your evidence means nothing
Irrelevant.
Presenting an exact same scenario to show your double think.
And I'm not here to shit fling with a paki faggot so argue or fuck off Ahmed, I'm not a Burger but you're none the wisest since both Britkikes and burgers are the same as the entry bar for posting here only requires speaking your mother tongue, why you're both so retarded.

I s'pose you had to be there, user. Abunch of Jews clammoring on about how They could travel freely, when the Soviet Union was a closed country, with closed borders, specifically (and they emphasized this point) because they were Jewish. They seemed to me to be bragging, relishing my confusion, rubbing my nose in it. I haven't forgotten.

What year was that ? What part of svoiet union ? or it was russia ?

c. 1990 - 1991
Mumbai, Madras, Delhi, etc.
Russian Jews here n' there

c. 1993 and 1995
Brasilia, and outlying regions
At the time, the place was crawling with Russian Jews - 'tourists'.

c. 1996

enough, you get the picture

'Russian' Jews - amend that to 'Soviet' Jews, for accuracy

Jews with a passport of x country. Jews are stateless internationals.

Doesn't roll off the tongue really well

I get the picture. It was time of perestroika. it is clear now. At time jews from us of a were flying large amount of freshly printed dollars to moscow and buying everything they could lay their hand on. You can read about it here books.google.hr/books?id=0OICAAAAMBAJ&printsec=frontcover&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false

Jews were running the show back then.

part of the article

New York Magazine, January 22, 1996, pp. 24-33.

The Money Plane

Five nights a week, at least $100 million in crisp new
$100 dollar bills is flown from JFK nonstop to Moscow,
where it is used to finance the Russian mob's vast and
growing international crime syndicate. State and federal
officials believe it is part of a multi-billion-dollar
money-laundering operation. The Republic National Bank
and The United States Federal Reserve prefer not to
think so.

By Robert I. Friedman


It's a darkening afternoon. The usual assortment of
passengers mills about Gate 14 at John F. Kennedy
International Airport, waiting to board Delta Flight 30
nonstop to Moscow: American businessmen prospecting the new
Russian capitalism, Russian entrepreneurs returning from
investor hunting, expatriates going home to visit family,
tourists. One passenger, though, is there only for the
nine-hour flight, and knows something none of the other
passengers knows: that the plane will be carrying 1 million
fresh hundred-dollar bills in its belly.

The red, white and blue Boeing 767 is on the tarmac when,
at about 5 P.M., a cream-colored armored truck drives up.
While Delta workers casually go about tossing luggage into
the hold, two armed guards begin placing large white canvas
bags on a conveyor belt. In the bags are stacks of
uncirculated new $100 bills, all still in their Federal
Reserve wrappers, dozens to a bag. And there are dozens of
bags.

A few minutes later, another armored truck rolls up and
unloads another series of even larger bags. In total, this
flight will carry about 2,300 pounds of $100 bills, or $100
million.

The plane departs JFK at 5:45 P.M. Throughout the flight,
an unarmed courier for the Republic National Bank of New
York unwinds in the passenger cabin while the money "sits
all by its lonesome" in the cargo hold, according to one
law-enforcement source. Upon arrival at Sheremetyevo
airport at 10:55 A.M. Moscow time, the money is transported
by more armored trucks to Russian banks, which have
purchased the $100 bills on behalf of clients, who
typically pay for the cash with wire transfers from London
bank accounts.

Rather remarkably, no one has ever tried to hijack Delta
Flight 30, even though it has left JFK at the same time
five days a week – rarely carrying less than $100 million
and sometimes more than $1 billion – for more than two
years. Since January 1994, federal authorities estimate
more than $40 billion – all in uncirculated $100 bills,
hundreds of tons of cash – was shipped to Russia. That far
exceeds the total value of all the Russian rubles in
circulation. All that money has remained safe only partly
because of security; another reason is that anybody who
might be inclined to pull off such a heist is also well
aware of who is buying all those $100 bills.

i highly suggest that you kill yourself

That's right. They instead planned to attack Europe.

In 1941 most (all except soviet parts) of europe was under control of 3 reich. there is a map from that year somewhere in this thread.

I honestly can't find any justification for this.

To buy time, even a nigger could guess at that.
Stalin only allied with him to gain Poland, then to buy time while Western Europe exhausted itself fighting, before he invaded. Not sure how new or how retarded you have to be to not be able to figure this out on your own, or from lurking:

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