Fuck this movie

Where to begin?

>Tracked through lightspeed where are the cylons?

When has fuel ever been a concern of the Star Wars universe? It's not as bad of writing as a Trade Federation putting a blockade on a planet. But it's bad.

Why didn't the stormtrooper guys jump a ship or two in front of the 'resistence' ships?

In TFA the Republic was destroyed. In TLJ the audience is told that people are made rich selling original trilogy weapons to the 'bad guys'. These bad guys came out of no where in TFA. The resistence was in existence before so we have to assume they were resisting the Republic. But we're never told what they are resisting. Nor are we told who these bad guys are or what their motive is.

The audience is audaciously told over and over who the good guys are and who the bad guys are. The 'bad guys' are so hyperbolic and cartoonish in their dialogue that they come off as saturday morning cartoon villains more so than disciplined military strategists.

Luke had to work towards his insights on the force from ANH, ESB and RotJ. We see him grow as a character. With Rey, there is no build up. Everything is told to her and she just 'gets' it. She is never relaxed. She is never calm. She would be a better dark-side force user with how tense she is all the time. The audience is told that she is good and kind and capable and therefore she is.

We see purple haired dykes, the ugliest woman on the planet, asian women, black men, black women, white women, etc etc. But we don't see aliens. They are few and far between. Has inflation made costumes too expensive to make now-a-days? Has 4k video made making good looking alien costumes too costly?

All of the, 'listen and believe' messaging was gross and overt. Were any men portrayed as heroic in this film other than maybe Luke at the end? Finn was constantly undermined all the way til the end when Leia had to give everyone permission to follow him.

As others have said all of the jokes felt more at home in a Guardians of the Galaxy film. Progs were shoe horned in at every opportunity and the audience laughed every. single. time.

The first 2 hours of this movie are entirely forgettable. The casino sub plot turned out to be a pointless big nothing. And we had to look at the woman with the unfortunate nose way more often than anyone should have to. Did they intentionally cast the ugliest woman alive for that role? Was she a producers wife?

2/10

Fuck outta here retard. Go sell this bullshit elsewhere. Fuckin retard.

New marketing to make ….."the shekels".
If you don't like their poor ripoff of ESB, with odious amounts of cy propaganda and pozz then you somehow don't like new things…..

2/10….. too good user this steaming pile of shit is less than 1 star.

I didn't watch the movie, but how was this played out? We are talking about the dark and deep space after all. How exactly the First Order followed the Resistance?

Resistence ship jumps to light speed, comes out of light speed. Moments later the First Order ships appear behind them. They chase them.

It was like watching a slow speed car chase through LA. First Order tailing the Resistence ships.

It was so boring. My wife fell asleep after an hour.

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You are right on the money except JJ is gonna make the next one very dull by comparison lol

Disliked the video because hes a pleb

Obvious racists and bigots check your privilege Holla Forums

not an argument

Ive been binge watching youtube starwars reviews all day for entertainment and that guys isnt even that great. But I didnt post them to Holla Forums.

Who cares!?

Unless its RLM it doesnt or a really really big YouTuber. It doesnt belong on Holla Forums.

NOT BASED/10

Niegro.

I'm sick of this shit. I really really am. This is used so fucking loosely as to lose all meaning, as if quality and aesthetic have nothing to fucking do with it.

To take a chance to is fully understand the limits of what is acceptable within a given aesthetic and tradition and leap outside those limits in a way that either has not been done before or is so inventive that it has meaning unto itself, outside the aesthetic entirely. But the current use of 'to take chances' when referring to film making today allows for a watered down interpretation; essentially that anything that is upsetting to an audience member can be explained away as a film maker taking chances.

Taking chances is not casting a woman as an Admiral. I remember that point in this shitheap where Poe thinks he's going to be named the new leader after Leia is in the coma, and it turns out that the new leader will be Holdo. After the announcement is made and she makes her shit speech, Poe asks another rebel man, 'is that Holdo? of battle such-n-such (I can't remember the damn line)' and the man answers, 'yup', and Poe says, 'wow…I didn't expect that'.

WHY BECAUSE IT"S A WOMAN INSTEAD OF A MAN?

But you see, this is something that the leftist media hails as taking a chance. This is not taking a chance at all.

Another type of chance they love is when they do something to a character that no one expects. I know, let's tease the audience in the Force Awakens with hints that Rey's parentage is important and will explain why she's so fucking strong in the force. Then, in the very next movie, let's screw that entirely by saying that she's born from nothing. WOW That's unexpected…they really took a risk with that. WRONG! FUCKING WRONG! Taking risks involves the risk making sense to the established limits, even if it goes beyond those limits. This kind of shit simply breaks the limit for no reason…it does not make sense, and it is actually a kind of flaw that reduces the comprehensiveness of the aesthetic. It deconstructs it, but in a way that has no value other than to deconstruct. Which is, in itself, as valueless as to assemble (in its most pure format).

Taking a chance is what Memento did (as an example, though perhaps not the best one…just the first that came to mind) in terms of storytelling; to tell the story backwards/forwards. Fucking fantastic idea, not necessarily the first of its kind, but it could easily have all fallen apart for the production and for the audiences. It's unusual, it goes outside of the aesthetic entirely of filmmaking, and it has a serious potential for failure. Also, the aesthetic is contained; the risk is calculated and worked out so that it makes sense, even if you have to watch it repeatedly.

Perhaps I'm trying to say that taking risks involves thinking about the consequences of actions, and making damn sure that the consequences still work in an established aesthetic. If you're doing pure creation without any establishment from beforehand, you can do whatever the fuck you want as long as you clearly communicate the limits to your audience as the movie goes along, so they learn the limits to recognize when you break them. But if you're doing something like Star Wars that already has very clear limits, you can't just break them for no reason and expect the audience to enjoy it. I hate these fucking hacks.

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lol didnt read either.

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My life, in a nutshell. The sound of my words becoming fainter…all the time, fainter…

So much this. The man babies want the same stories, with the same characters. Let’s also point out that many of these man children can’t stand to see a powerful woman, and a minority cast on the big screen. Not to mention the romance between a strong black man and an Asian woman is enough to enrage many of these shitlords, because it hurts their fetish.
Ultimately this is one of the best Star Wars movies ever. You really need to see it in IMAX for the full effect. And you really can’t understand the subtle plot points without seeing it a minimum of two times, maybe three to be safe.

I actually did read 😙, :^)

😋

TFA barely gives importance to Rey's parentage.

ya know what OP. Just clicked ur video. I was confused thought it was another black guy that pannedvit Id already seen. A few minutes in now and this negative review is fairly kino. Consider this bump an apology. Guess they all look the same to me lollol

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Shirley you can't be serious. The parentage angle was being pushed not only in the movie but by every single media outlet that was attempting to deflect or contradict any argument put forth that Rey was a Mary Sue. 'Don't worry, she's super powerful, she can learn faster than anyone, she has knowledge that her upbringing couldn't possibly afford her, and you'll find out why in the next movie'. (the other angle of course was that she was a student of Luke's). Just a shameless example; how the fuck in TFA can she fly a piece of junk ship as big as the Falcon, let alone do so with extreme precision; not only is flying a ship a difficult skill in this universe, but to do so with an old 'piece of junk' that perhaps is not reliable in controls or may have things not working properly. Think about it…it's like riding a motorbike for the first time through the streets of Mumbai without knowing the condition of the tires or brakes, oil and gas feeds, throttle sensitivity etc, and still managing to avoid every shitter in the streets while outrunning the police. Bullshit.

All the shitty 'mysteries' being put forth were part of the same problem…that this is somehow required or compulsory in order to get people to come back to watch the next installment. As if there was doubt that the first installment would achieve a high enough quality on its own that people would be begging for more.

TFA hints at the importance of Rey's parentage…the media overblows it to compensate for the Mary-Sue factor, and the plebs eat it up because it's the only fucking explanation that fits into their previous canon. Now TLJ just throws it out the window…which means that Rey is officially a fucking Mary Sue, because there's no logical or rational explanation IN THIS AESTHETIC UNIVERSE that makes sense to anyone.

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Good post. Got my noggin joggin about what it means to "take chances/risks" and how that even applies to this movie.. Is it a risk to put a woman in the protagonist role of a fantasy/sci-fi movie? Because that's been done before. It's not even much of a risk when you count all the hyper successful YA novels-turned-movies. It's certainly not a risk to put blacks and asians in primary roles. Plenty of movies to that.. Is it a risk to cast some hideous purple-haired she-beast as the misunderstood hero when she's really just a shitty leader? Are we supposed to be awed by them killing off the big villain in a high anti-climactic way that doesn't reveal a single thing about him or his goals? I guess it could be argued that it's a risk to tell a story that absolutely doesn't matter and refuses to acknowledge its own pointlessness.

Is the message that it's risky to pander to feminism and cultural marxism? Because maybe that's the truth here. They took a deep plunge into the kool-aid hoping that the mythical hidden demographics would embrace them and stop them from floundering.. but that's definitely not the case. So besides that, what did this movie really risk?

But this goes without saying. When people praise something for being unique, they are also saying it's a good kind of unique.

Also I don't think that communicating to the audience about the limits is enough. Most people go to the theater with certain expectations, they are paying for a product after all. Memento did well because it was niche, but do you think a Star Wars movie with a "backwards/forwards" narrative would be accepted? There's certain limits that can't be broken; this varies according to the culture, the product and the audience.

I didn't watch the movie tho

I need more reviews that trash this film.

Just got to youtube. Look up, last jedi sucks, and filter for 24 hours, friendo.

The media? Yes. The movie? Barely.

Also she is a mary-sue regardless of her parentage.

good idea.

thats what i did half the day

Thanks…this thing just makes me so fucking upset, but it's not the movie's fault…it's the misuse of language that plagues all extreme leftist thinking. The redefinition and usurpation of standard language solely for political purposes makes me angry more than anything else, because it's so insidious, and so astonishingly easy to accomplish. It's the first step of human control…you change language and the meaning of communication, because this is what defines behavior in a society; if you control the language, you eventually control the behavior.

Regarding your thoughts about 'taking risks' in a politically correct way, this is part of my language polemic in the previous paragraph. It's like how right now every woman is 'brave' for saying anything on Twitter, it doesn't matter what the fuck it is. 'I like Hamburgers' That's brave, because only men like Hamburgers. 'I got an abortion and I'm proud of it'. That's brave sister, for telling everyone you made a mistake with contraception. 'I allowed myself to go to Weinstein's hotel room 30 years ago when he offered to give me a career…now that my career is dead I'm gonna say it was inappropriate'. That's brave. Bravery means NOTHING in this context, because they've extended the meaning so far that it means everything, and thus, it means nothing.

Telling a story that absolutely doesn't matter and refuses to acknowledge its own pointlessness is only valuable as an artistic exercise. There are pieces of literature and music that do this, but the whole point of these pieces is to make the audience confront what the meaning of 'meaningless' actually is. This can be done in several ways of course, but the point is that the focus shifts away from what the artwork 'says' to the audience to what the actual construction of the artwork. Instead of seeing the mix of colours on a canvas, we're seeing the canvas and frame.

It's not risky at all to pander to feminism and cultural marxism because that is the current trend today in the west. It would be risky if they did this in China, Iran, or Russia. That's a fucking risk. How about trying to preach feminism in Saudi Arabia? That's a risk. Doing this in North America….it's child's play. It's not a risk if you're doing something that follows the trajectory of social expectations. And remember, fans of Star Wars are not part of the social trajectory…they're the part of the social fabric that modern progressives are forcefully encouraging all of us to leave behind.

Why do you think there's so much shit in this movie about destroying the past, breaking with the past, incinerating knowledge (even though it didn't actually happen), death….there's no creation of any kind in this film, no hope of any kind, no friendship, comradery….nothing that is life-giving.

This movie didn't risk a fucking thing. By making characters act in a way that is inconsistent with their history as we know it, it's a flaw, not a risk. This is a constructional flaw…not an artistic flaw. God it makes me so fucking angry.

The more general risk would be failing to balance propaganda with market expectations, and thinking the latter secures the reach of the former without consequences. They thought they could tweak a fundamental formula for all entertainment and expect the memories of the franchise to keep it alive. What they have forgotten is that even if you're set on to promoting an agenda, good storytelling, fan loyalty and subtlety are key for truly effective propaganda. Disney was too ambitious and reckless with what they tried here and it's starting to backfire.

Yes, a backwards/forwards would be fucking awesome in Star Wars; imagine they did something simple, like in Citizen Kane, where Luke says something somewhat cryptic which the audience has to figure out the rest of the film…it's cliche now, but it's never been done in Star Wars (and if done properly, it works magnificently).

The arguments people have with this bullshit is that things in canon now don't make any sense at all. If Leia can fly through space, why couldn't the Emperor when he was thrown down the tube in Return of the Jedi? After all, he was far more powerful…wasn't he? If Yoda can manipulate the physical world as a force ghost, why can't any other ones…Anakin…Quigon…Obiwan….and why did this happen just now? Couldn't Yoda have manipulated serious shit after dying?

These are what I'm talking about…limits that show us what people can and cannot do. If you fuck with the limits, then we don't know what is not possible, and therefore we're not surprised at all when fucked up things do happen. We simply ask, 'okay…so…why not before?'

Nothing new

lol
except the new trilogy is every bit as formulaic as every SJW film out there, where the plot has been predicted by Holla Forums.

I can accept that; the movie didn't push it as much as the marketers. But it was still there, if you look closely (it's in the dialogue, mostly)

As for her mary-sueness regardless of her parentage, this is an issue that for me has only been confirmed with this latest movie. I tried to be fair and hold out that there would be some explanation that would allow for everything. All the skills and knowledge that she possesses as a ship owner (she can fly and repair) could have been memory wiped or something like this. Her skills with the force (suddenly knowing how to force persuade, which incidentally we only see Luke doing by the third movie, not in the second….also, notice how much trouble Luke has at the beginning of Empire Strikes Back trying to pull the lightsaber from the snow as he hangs upside down….that wouldn't have taken Rey so long at all) could have been explained by her being trained in the force when she was young, but again, memory wiped…or at least that she's a Skywalker product or even an Emperor product….that could be believable.

But now none of it is, and that's the fault of the showrunners. They don't understand that we accept and grow to care for characters not for their successes but for their faults that remind us of our own. When we see them fail, we remember how we failed at things, and when we see them overcome their failure, it gives us hope that we can do the same.

With Rey, she never fails…ever. And in this movie, she never fails EVEN MORE! And somehow…somehow I'm supposed to like her, relate to her, and see her as a heroine? Fuck that. Fuck this shit.

Based nigga

Agree with you completely, but I think I have a cause as to why Disney was pulling the trigger so quickly. They are seeing the death of Cinema that everyone is seeing, and they want a piece of the pie before it's all gone. Hollywood is in its death throes, for the simple reason that it's too slow, it's not interactive, and the younger generation has no interest in it, which means the demographic is also disappearing.

Because the hard leftists are the most vocal and are the most involved in the Hollywood world, the assumption amongst writers is that this is what the GENERAL population wants. Not so…the squeakiest wheel always gets the grease…but that is not an indicator of the condition of the other wheels.

This is why Ghostbusters sucked…why STD is sucking now, and why anything they throw this leftist shit into will be guaranteed to fail. Hell, the videogame community proved this without question statistically years ago, and recently the comic book industry followed precisely the same line.

Great art is made. Minorities see the profit made. Minorities claim they are underrepresented in the said great art. Great art is changed to include minorities. Majorities stop buying it, and the minorities who never bought it to begin with don't start. Great art is ruined and goes bankrupt. It's so predictable and so stupidly obvious that you have to ask yourself how it's possible to have people so uninformed, so dense 'running' the show at all. Idiots…all of them idiots.

Yup, you just pointed out the fundamental flaw of the critique against fans who hate the film. 'Fans just want something predictable'. WRONG! They want something that fits into their pre-established canon. Why was there near universal love for Dark Forces II, or Knights of the Old Republic? These games are not predictable at all if you're playing them for the first time…but they follow the in-world rules and limits that have been established in the Star Wars Universe…you can do this, you can't do this, etc. That tells us where we are on the spectrum (another word that has been commandeered and raped by the pink-hairs); it gives us a frame of reference.

Great adventures can always be written; sure, they will always be derivative in some way to other stories from history, but as long as the things that are special to this universe are kept special, then everything seems new. Imagine if Episode 7 found Leia and Han happily married with kids, Luke teaching a new Jedi order, Lando working with the Rebel Alliance to forge a new republic….and then, 20 minutes in, something assassinates Leia, with Han getting severely injured trying to save her. Luke comes back, and then Han and Luke go on a mission to find out what the fuck caused this, Han wanting to go for revenge, and Luke wanting not revenge (because he's a good Jedi) but understanding of what this may be a bigger sign of.

A simple concept, I don't care where it goes, but it fucking fits. It's something we've never seen before in Star Wars (aside from the attempt on Padme), something with real consequences (leia is dead), and something that affects the characters and causes them to react according to their character traits that have been previously established. Don't tell me this simple (sorry, I just made it up now) idea couldn't work, and that Star Wars fans would eat it up.

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all the posters defending this movie sound the same. is it just one bored dumbass in every thread?

t. disney shil

Wow, imagine how good the new trilogy films would've been if this is what had happened.
Two friends going on opposite ways because of a tragic event, finding themselves on opposite sides because of the event.

I think the ultimate flaw is that when you have a perfect character, there's no ability to truly have any empathy for them. Natural flaws in a character give them a sense of life and make others appreciate them when they finally strive and prevail. Even if you write about a person who became a god-like being, it would still be useful to explore the more philosophical consequences of having too much power and the psychological effects of it, and find flaws people wouldn't normally consider.

This concept is easy to expand because you can introduce new characters without forcing them down people's throats. Who is Luke going to have as a lead padowan to help him find Leia's killer? Who is Han going to get in addition to Chewy to help him in revenge? What is to become of their children (or perhaps, 20+ year olds…are they strong in the force?)? What about Lando? Does he return? There are so many options.

You don't need to create a Mary Sue….you don't need to have a Han Solo substitute, or a Darth Vader substitute….or a Boba Fett substitute. Just have new characters who happen to live in this Star Wars world. Lucas tried to do this in the prequels…and the writing was terrible, but the attempt was there.

But these new films…each character fits the stereotype that muh currant year freaks want it to. Every position of power on the good side is female…every position of power on the dark side is male. Every smart 'I told you so' character is female, every dumb commercial-father-type is male. It's so fucking transparent as to be actually sickening in its inception and execution. I fucking hate these movies, and they'll be making a new universe one every fucking Christmas from now until Hollywood dies. Fuck them all….

Agreed fully. Nice post!