SHITSKINS BTFO BY TRUMP

>The Pentagon is considering pulling out of a deal it made with thousands of noncitizen recruits with specialized skills: Join the military and we'll put you on the fast track to citizenship.

>The plan under consideration is laid out in a memo from Pentagon officials to Defense Secretary James Mattis.

>Three Defense Department officials, speaking on the condition of anonymity because they had not been authorized to discuss the memo publicly, said the Pentagon is trying to balance national security concerns with the military's needs for specialized skills immigrants can provide.

>The program has been frozen pending further review.

>The lead plaintiff in that lawsuit, Kirti Tiwari, is a native of India, with a master's degree in molecular biology.
>He was selected as an Army nominee for NASA's astronaut program, but that plan was put on hold when Tiwari couldn't get a security clearance in his first term of enlistment.
For fuck's sake…

Yea, boomers are still a problem, not very big though. Both boomers and libcucks are dying off as an ideology and generation. The new generation of liberals don't have children and boomers gave birth to a new nationalist party, ironically. The future of the United States will be FAR to the right, maybe even NatSoc.

It's completely ridiculous.
And it destroyed the empire. Count your lucky stars the Goths were White.

Nigger, wait until you find out about student visas, holy shit.

Not for long, kek. I foresee student visa's getting Trump'd.

Checked, take that shit back to sand castle town, you mooching fucks.

It's all a drop in the bucket until the ones who are already here and picked up citizenship or residency/work permit are forcibly removed or killed, with their property destroyed/confiscated.

Yeah and it's the exact scenario which catalyzed the fall. Not the best example if you're going fir a positive spin there chief.

No, nigger. The atheist/secular boomers are just as fucking cancerous as the Christian ones. Their entire generation is an absolute disgrace. Luckily they'll all die off soon enough and we can start cleaning up the fucking mess they made without hearing them bitch and moan like the impudent entitled children that they are.

The biggest problem currently are hordes of niggers, shitskins and mudslimes. The only way the future of the US will be as far to the right as you claim is if we get rid of all the fucking nonwhites.

>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_Stock

>Margaret D. Stock (born 1961) is an immigration attorney based in Anchorage, Alaska, and a retired Lieutenant Colonel in the United States Army Reserve.

So… She dropped out of high school before graduating… But a high school counselor got her into a prestigous university… And then she transferred to Harvard…….. Hmmmmmmmmmmmm.

Hahaha, its super fucking ridiculous.
That you brought up Rome in that context only makes you seem ridiculous as well.

The amount of shitskins and niggers really isn't as large as jews and other groups exaggerate. Since the US has a very manipulable voting system it makes voting in people like Trump fairly easy. Niggers and shit skins really don't care about voting and it shows year after year. Even with Obama running for office lazt niggers only voted at about 20-25% of their population. What gives socialist groups their power is white liberals that believe they have to be punished by lesser races and thus vote against their own kind. Securing a far right government in the future really isn't that hard, Trumps admin is a good start but it's still far too kosher at this point.

It's sad as fuck, almost every aspect of American govt, or social structure seems to have some form of gibes built into it. sage for faggotry

I actually know someone from Africa that did this, he was the only nog smart enough to figure out how to use a computer in Ghana and downloaded all the immigration forms, then when he got here, he Joined the military, and then knocked up a white women (who is now a single mom he doesn't even live in the same state as them).

So he got his citizenship. Actually pretty smart guy, but that still does not stop him from doing dindu things.

This is what kills liberals the most. They don't have enough children to pass on their ideals. PLENTY of white American families from the forgotten rural areas to even the cities are numbering 3-5 on average. These children are most likely to get involved in politics, own business's and become law makers. Shit skins and niggers may have equal number of children but they are often killed by their own, by the police, end up in jail or have some other grizzly end. Liberal whites are no different.

>today.law.harvard.edu/feature/stock-trade-ingenuity/

>This census, which showed that about 15 percent of his unit was from other countries—Russia, Italy, Ireland, Mexico, Germany—would turn out to be a seed for her work on immigration and the military, work that was recently recognized by the MacArthur Foundation with a “genius” grant.

…………………………and that man went on to become the president

This statement makes me extremely skeptical of you.

As it should. The amount is actually much, much worse.

I think you mean Israel.

I know but it's the truth. Niggers and shit skins are not only smaller groups than what (((stats))) and memes show but they are also, even when elevated by government, worth far less than whites.

>Soon after she arrived, she was asked to take on what she was told would be a 10- t0 20-hour pro bono case, involving a green card holder who faced deportation for allegedly smuggling a Russian woman into Alaska.

>These days, she is an attorney at Cascadia CrossBorder Law Group in Anchorage, where she works on a wide variety of immigration cases, from helping foreign executives acquire visas to representing “banished” veterans—former service members who have been deported.

>The “genius” of the program, she said, “is that it capitalizes on the dysfunction of the legal immigration system.”

SHEEEEEIT

>Niggers and shit skins are not only smaller groups than what (((stats))) and memes show but they are also, even when elevated by government, worth far less than whites.

The second part of that statement is undeniably true. The first part you completely pulled out of your ass. Mixing truth with horseshit is a very jewish thing to do.

that bitch sounds like fucking cancer

>harvardmagazine.com/2014/11/harvard-portrait-deborah-anker
harvardmagazine.com/2014/11/harvard-portrait-deborah-anker
>twitter.com/alannogee?lang=en

Cancer breeds cancer.

Bullshit. If anything, the numbers are worse than presented.

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A bullet is a cure for so many problems. Just saying.

Oh shit, last bit got cut off. She appears to be married to some kike-looking fuck in the 'clean energy' industry.

"clean energy that's not good clean shit like nuclear and leeches off of govt subsidies" I bet you mean

Boy you're a dumb one if you honestly think that'd ever happen.

Only if men have the courage to walk a path does that path have any meaning. And at present, people are just too fucking comfortable, too cautious.

It really kills me on some level.
How bad are things going to have to get? I mean, does it have to actually come to the point wherein internet and television and all the nigger tech are disabled or destroyed? Is that what will do it, finally?

I look around, and I see comfortable men, constantly concerned only with what is possible, constantly justifying to themselves that which is merely good.
But the future is dogshit, as things stand. Absolute dogshit.
I hear men and women whine about how they cannot take action, because they have a family, they have their own personal hopes and desires… Yet none, even those who are 'redpilled' seem yet to have realized that they have no future. They fear for their children growing up without a father or a mother, but their children's future, as it stands, even with such, is to become a minority, surrounded by those who hate them, subject to a system that serves those hateful mongrel invaders… What kind of future is that?
I see men and women afeared of taking action, for want of the law's punishment, afraid of the rape-cage… But, one need only turn their eye to the future to see that the entirety of these peoples' nations will become rape-cages - for their children, if not for them.

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FIrst, they die for Israel, Second, most of them don't take combat arms jobs. Supply, fueling, etc are controlled by niggers.

Jesus was Greek and lived in Greece, eh? He wasn't some swarthy mongrel living in the asshole of the world?
Seems legit.

The Jew Fears the Viking, Not the Crusader

Jesus didn't invent Christianity nor write the Bible. The Greeks did. Jesus was an Israelite not a Judean, but yes he became a Rabbi.

The Jew and LARPagan fedoras fears the Christian; because (((they))) know the Christian is right.

Oh.

The issue is that boomers saw demographic shift as a long distance, almost laughable issue. When America was 95% White, a few wetbacks or zipperheads becoming American citizens "didn't matter" because:

A) At least they weren't niggers.
B) They were never going to effect or alter the culture at large.
C) Whites were ALWAYS going to be at the top of the totem pole so it didn't matter that the demographics shifted, like South Africa or British India. Whites would always be in charge.

And Boomers are all old as fuck now, only interact with people in their age group that are mostly White with exceptions of their mud domestic employees. They probably wonder why they play so much Pitbull and Selena Gomez on the radio but don't stop to think about for what reason there's a cultural shift.

This is just sad m8. Very sad.

Christianity is entirely foreign to Europeans, a faith of traitors, and the worst thing that ever happened to us. And you know I'm right. And it pains you.

Ah.

The methods to achieve it are all extremely cheap and readily available. It's really nothing to throw molotov cocktails into every single non-White business you come across. It's not like shitskins can hide what they are. They are obvious and apparent.

It just takes being willing to slaughter the military and police who would enforce their mongrel presence among us. Once they are out of the way, the real fight is straightforward, intimate, and local.

Global report for intl.

A religion invented by white Europeans is not foreign.

Watching you squirm because you can't argue against my facts is hilarious. Pretending that you're screencaps counter factual history is sad. Implying that you are correct and that I know it is delusional, Rabbi.

Remind me again, faggot, what did Odin's worshippers do to the Mudslimes invading Europe? aside from get raped and beheaded by them

That's one smug and comfy merchant

My parents are upper-middle class giga-liberal boomer morons living in Fagachusetts. They only hang out with other white liberal boomer morons with the exception of a couple token east asian liberal morons. They don't have the faintest fucking clue what the rest of the country looks like and they don't give a shit to learn either. They've never even spent a minute of time in close proximity to a fucking nigger, street shitter or mudslime outside of the random "talented tenth" exception to the rule that perhaps showed up at one of their faggy cocktail parties or in the work environment. They are the embodiment of the cancer that allowed the kikes to destroy this nation with gigantic shit eating grins on their faces. Boomers cannot fucking die fast enough.

That's right! If you let your enemies crucify you, you win!

You'd be writing Arabic, talking in dirtspeak, getting raped, or fucking goats if you lived in Europe and Christianity didn't exist.

When (((your))) God martyrs Himself for (((your))) people… you can come back with your snide remarks, summerfag.

Lol Scandinavia was converted to Christianity by the time the Muslims invaded. The Norse mostly just traded with the Arabs. Although there was that one time the 1st king of Norway raided Egypt and on the return journey killed an entire island of niggers.

I think you mean in an world without mongols. They did more to hinder the spread of Islam than literally anyone ever.

Christians, on the other hand, are currently inviting the fuckers into Europe, often illegally.

Yes I'm actually aware of Cnut the Great.

Oh shit I forgot about the Mongolian Inquisition that saved Europe from the Muslims. Thanks for reminding me, faggot! your shit-tier smug gif is inferior just like your theory

Still race-treason. Especially if you consider that part of the merchandise was White slaves.

Literally reddit-tier historical revisionism.

True, but don't underestimate them. They are fully aware of this flaw, which is why liberals are so focused on corrupting other people's children. The only things keeping their causes alive are propaganda and indoctrination, which is precisely why they constantly entrench themselves so deeply in the media and academia.

KEK l remember when endchan shills were pushing this one hard. Surprise surprise motherfuckers. Do you ever get tired of losing?

Yeah, that policy worked out well for Rome didn't it?

Well, no… Not necessarily.
If Christianity didn't exist, there's no reason to think Islam would necessarily exist either - and if Christianity didn't exist, the Roman Empire would probably have still existed, in which case Mudslimes weren't a worry…

You're basically holding up Christianity as beneficial due to it having been the means via which a problem was solved, while ignoring that Christianity also greatly contributed to the creation of that problem to begin with, and with it brought a great many things that weighed upon extant structures that, even if Christianity were not extant but other things did transpire, would have made Christianity's presence unnecessary.

This is why I can't stand you Christians - you're so disingenuous about everything relating to your faith.
You claim Christianity is the source of European greatness, yet you seek to ignore that Europeans conquered the known world AT LEAST twice before Christianity ever existed.
You claim Christianity is intrinsically European, yet you seek to ignore that it came from a foreign land and a foreign people.
You claim Christianity is traditionally European, yet you seek to ignore that Europeans were not Christian for far far far longer than they were Christian.
You claim Christianity is our ancestors faith, yet there is no living European man - nor has there ever been - who has more Christian ancestors than non-Christian ancestors.

If Christianity didn't exist, there's no reason to think Rome would have fallen as it did, and no reason to think Islam would necessarily exist today.
Thus, without Christianity, we wouldn't have had to worry about that sort of shit to begin with - you're holding up your faith as the answer to a problem your faith caused, or at the very least, contributed to greatly.
Disgustingly disingenuous. Like a bunch of fucking Jews.

There was no concept of race at that point, so its irrelevant; and if it weren't, Christians would be some of the biggest race-traitors in human history.
But, as I said, race wasn't really a concept at that point in time, certainly not as it is today, and so its largely irrelevant.

More disingenuous faggotry.
Of course, its in response to general ignorance: The mongol siege of Baghdad in the 1200's brought down one of the Caliphates, but not the one doing most of the raiding into Europe.
… Which was instead laid low by - wait for it - infighting!

Christians didn't 'drive Islam from Europe' the way they'd like to portray - Islam gradually weakened due to internal turmoil within the Umayyad or whatever the fuck it was caliphate. European Christians may well have put up some resistance and caused additional burden to the Caliphate, but they were not the primary source of its defeat, nor did they 'drive it off' in any meaningful sense.

No, what killed Islam in Europe during that period was, quite simply, Muslim infighting.

And it should be noted: Christians in various parts of the Muslim empire(s) DIDN'T stand against them. They bowed their heads and accepted the domination of the Muslims.

Look at Syria. Look at much of the Iberian. Etc etc. They even married them, in some cases.

Grotesque.

Very ironic, given that your post is full of obvious falsehoods.

Laughable. The Roman Empire fell only in 1453. Calling it "Byzantine" is just a historiographic convention, they themselves called themselves Romans, Christian Romans, and for more than a thousand years the held every kind of Mongol and Arab at bay.

Those weren't Europeans, but Ancient Aryans or IE peoples. The original poster is right, Europe as Europe would not have been possible without Christianity. It's what made possible the formation of the early Germanic kingdoms in the first place, everything else followed from that.

If you believe in the Ancient Aryan hypothesis (ie. that the mediterranean high-cultures were originally created by Aryans), than Christianity is ipso facto a late offshot of original Aryan metaphysics. It's logically impossible to believe in "Christianity is semitic" and Ancient Aryanism at the same time.

This is true, but ignores the reality that there never was some uniform, continous pre-christian European religion. In that sense Christianity is fundamentally more European than anything that came before it, what mostly were highly localized and variable tribal practices, with their own huge share of problems. It's no coinicidence that millions and millions of your ancestors converted freely and rapidly, elites and commoners alike. If those paganism were so good, that wouldn't have happened.

The same is true for National Socialism, does that make NS wrong? Of course not.

Of course - but why do you blame Christianity for that? More like typical human weaknesses, intrigues and power-play.

Perhaps you're right, but the same could be said about the Western Roman empire, whose fall you singularly attributed to Christianity. Be consistent.

Of course, it's always a only a small minority that resists. Same as today. Human nature again, no need to blame Christianity.

As you say:
Its like saying the United States continues to exist in equivalent form if everything West of the Mississippi were to secede and devolve into utter chaos.
Disingenuous.

As you say:

You have no basis upon which to make such claims, because you don't know what might have transpired without the introduction of Christianity.
You're basically saying here "The way it went historically is the only way it could have gone to bring about an environment even-approximate to what came about", and that's hilariously disingenuously false.

I don't.
Just no.
I never said Christianity is semitic. I said Christianity is foreign, created by a foreign people, derived from a foreign faith.
And it is. You'll try to pretend otherwise, come up with all sorts of bullshit to muddy the water, but end of the day, that's the truth - always has been, and always will be.

I know.
No, it doesn't ignore it, it acknowledges it outright - there was no uniform, continuous pre-Christian European religion that spanned all of Europe… However, there were plenty of VERY SIMILAR pre-Christian European faiths, which became more and more similar with further exposure between European ethnocultural subgroups.
IOW: European paganism was not simply "European paganism", identical and equivalent across all Europe… But neither is Christianity. So its largely irrelevant.

This does not follow. Christianity very-quickly went about espousing the same sort of variance across ethnocultural/regional subgroups as was espoused by pre-Christian faiths.

Yes, as I said, that's exactly what happened to Christianity very-soon (in the greater scheme) upon its arrival in Europe.

Blatant falsehood - except, as you say, that it was no coincidence. It happened for very clear reasons.
Those reasons were the appeal to the lower castes, the 'comomners', as you called them.
What appealed to them - on principles you would no-doubt deny attributabl to Christendom (because they're pretty gay tbh) - passed on to the upper castes (the 'elites') via, well, frankly, the same sort of degenerate faggots who today become Muslims. It could be for social reasons, or it could be for political power, or any of a number of other motives - point being, rarely, when it came to the elites' conversion, even the 'middle castes' conversion, it wasn't based upon ideology and having found a 'better faith', so much as it was… well, the same shit we see with modern Whites converting to Islam.

What starts with the lower castes spreads to the middle and upper castes via those who try to associate themselves with lower caste fashions and ideals (great for politics!) - or simply 'foreign and exotic' equivalents (simply a variation in motivation for espousal by these higher castes relative to social motives in terms of appeal to the lower castes) - and from there it spread further and further.

To use your own rhetoric: It's no coincidence that millions and millions of your countrymen freely and rapidly began to argue that Muslims should be welcomed with open arms and never have terrorism born of their faith attributed to them. Its literally the same shit, until you got to the point wherein the highest caste - a Roman Emperor - converted to Christianity… Likely for political reasons moreso than ideological ones, but, it doesn't matter.
If/when millions of Whites begin converting, do you not think eventually you'll see a European nation's leader convert to Islam, or simply that one of such inclinations will be elected? ('The First Muslim President' is very likely to be something we hear about in European nations if things continue unabated.)

If the Christian god is so good, we wouldn't see what we're seeing today… By your logic, at least.
(I don't agree, obviously.)

False equivalence.
National Socialism was created by Europeans, its a European political/ideological approach to governance - it is NOT a religion.
Taking on the governing methodology of a foreign people is one thing - taking on their religious and ideological views is another entirely, especially if then use it as motivation to go about exterminating the extant native faith.

National Socialism would NEVER have supported such a thing - there is no way Hitler would be supportive of Islam spreading within Nazi Germany on the basis of some appeal to the lowest dregs and those who wish to appeal to aforementioned dregs. You know this.
And, quite frankly? If NatSoc were derived in, say, 1940's Pakistan, do you think we would be as supportive of it as we are? Do you think Holla Forums would be a NatSoc board holding forth the BASED PAKIS and trying to promote the establishment of their political ideals? I rather doubt it. The fact that its European in origin does a LOT for European nationalist support - they, we, would NOT be so supportive if it were, for example, of African or Arab or SE Asian or Mestizo derivation. You have to know as much, and thus be able to see the difference, the falsehood of your claim of equivalence.

But… I don't. My point was not to BLAME Christianity for anything - in fact, one might argue I'm REMOVING the blame that others would place upon Christianity in this context.
Anons love to claim that "if not for Christianity, you'd be Muslims!", but that doesn't follow, because Christianity didn't 'drive off' Islam - Islam destroyed itself from within… Or at least, it did in the context of the Iberian invasion of Europe, and at least, did so moreso than one could argue for the Muslim defeat being derived from brave Christian warriors driving them off the European mainland.

Exactly! It wasn't Christianity that drove Muslims out of Europe - it was Muslims being humans, and rather shit-tier humans at that, with a rather shit-tier ideology, which resulted in their internal strife and eventual implosion.

Not perhaps - I AM right.
But I didn't do such, in fact, I explicitly did NOT suggest the fall of the Western Roman Empire as being unquestionably singularly attributable to the presence of Christianity - I DID, however, suggest that, AT THE VERY LEAST, Christianity greatly contributed to the fall of the WRE.
And I don't think anyone with any sort of historical literacy is going to try to doubt that claim - but if they DID, it would almost certainly be a disingenuously-acting Christian, because nobody else really questions such a claim. (Because its the truth.)

Except today you've got far more than a small minority willing to resist, for example, Islamic invasion.
Again, not 'blaming' Christianity, simply noting that Christians WERE NOT the 'noble warrior' stereotypes which Christians like to present - they were, as you say, simply people… And not necessarily GOOD people either, particularly in the vein of such matters: Man did not simply bow, they, as you say, served/"converted freely and rapidly".

I am not 'blaming' Christians in that context, merely revealing the reality of their response to this circumstance, which was not what most Christians would like others to believe - its certainly not the narrative they push with. And because of that, its disingenuous when they push those false narratives, which is what makes me dislike them so much.

Ah, I think I see where you got confused - and rightly so, because my wording wasn't what it could have been. Apologies.

I can see how one would come away from that commentary thinking I'm saying "Christianity is the sole reason the WRE fell", and no, I don't think that's entirely accurate.
I would say that Christianity was a significant contributing factor the fall of the WRE, specifically, in the manner in which it DID transpire - it could have fallen in other ways, as there were other sources of hardship upon the Empire, and those could have ballooned and laid it low… But I do think that Christianity arising acted to strongly influence the outcome we saw.

IOW: Christianity is not, I would say, the sole determinant factor in the fall of the WRE - but it was a significant contributing factor; so significant in its contribute that, if Christianity did not rise as it did, I do not think one can claim the WRE would have fallen, or at least, would have fallen as and when it did.

Yes, of course, that would indeed be the case. Kingdoms and polities shifted their borders all the time. It's not the territory that counts, but the continuity of the state (or royal authority, in former times) itself. And that's not some private view; Byzantine WAS the Roman Empire, that's what they called themselves, and that is what they are called in mainstream academic research.

We were talking about an European identity as such, i.e. the self-description as e.g. occidental, or as "White European" in colonial times, it's not simply about this or that geographic point of origin. Basing your argument on mere geography is a very slippery slopes, because it would make Muslims born e.g. in 16th Iberia, or those born in Bosnia in the 17th, Europeans as well.

Complete non-sequitur. Christianity was the founding doctrine of the Germanic kingdoms after the fall of Western Rome. That is an undisputable fact.

On what grounds? There is strong evidence - Aryan mummies, genetic traces, architecture, mythology…

Yes, and…? We're talking metaphysics here, and truth, not this or that origin. That's what logicians call the fallacy of origin ("it's not from here, so it must be false."). Excluding some doctrine because of foreign origins is highly anti-European itself, because the basic IE metaphysic aspects (veneration of the sky father, for example) were imported from the Eurasian Urheimat as well (if you reject Ancient Aryanism and follow mainstream thinking on IE migrations).

Simply repeating your assertions, especially with the very weak arguments you provided, does not make them true.

Speaking of "faiths" already marks you as someone who doesn't know very much about ancient metaphysics. If you read a bit you will learn that ancient religions were bases on orthopraxis, i.e. the correct execution of rituals and sacrifices, and the participation in the mysteries, not on this or that "belief". The ancients didn't give a hoot about your "beliefs".

Good, at least on that we can agree.

Well, there were and are of course different schisms, but the overarching belief that unites those is, of course, the one in the divinity of Jesus Christ. The different paganisms weren't faith-based in our modern sense and tended to be highly particularistic.

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No, faggot. It's being derailed by Holla Forums goon faggots who can't shut the fuck up about "m-muh rabbi"
Holla Forums faggots kill yourself, /christian/ faggots stop giving them what they want.
Also, filtered, since I already know you're an Holla Forums nigger.

Congratulations on killing a good thread, kike.

Come on now. Accusing me of falsehood and repeating that worn-out misconception? In the Roman Empire, conversions were equally divided between elites and commoners, while among the Germanics they were predominantly elite-driven (the Goths, for example, but also the Franks under Chlodwig).

I get your point, although the premise is quite faulty. Whites get replaced by Muslims, they rarely convert, being the materialistic hedonists most of them are. I 100% agree, though, that the Houllebecq scenario will come true, i.e. a Muslim president in Europe.

What exactly is "pretty gay" about Christian principles?

Agree, of course politics played a huge role. The same can be said, though, about the paganism that came before. Syncretism, consolidation of power, amalgamation of different peoples were laways important. Christianity isn't even that big on this, Alexander with his helleno-persian fusion is THE go-to example here. Many did it, the Incas too, for example.

Hmm… it's a bit more than simply politics, it's a whole Weltanschauung', a racial religion one could say. At least according to Rosenberg.

Here's the rub: pre-Christian pagan religions were imported themselves, the Aryans/IE peoples brought their religion with them when they conquered the native peoples of Europe. For example when the (Aryan) Dorics conquered the Pelasgians, who had a VERY different, chtonic religion.

Hold your horses - you DO know that Hitler admired Islam and wished it would had become the religion of Germanics instead of Christianity, right? (at least if the Table Talks are real).

Yes, but that's basically a "muh PR" argument. You're right regarding the actual political struggle and its propaganda necessities, but this is not identical with the topic of metaphysical truths.

Jesus user. I hope you realize you're derailing the fuck out of this thread with the other user.
Take it somewhere else

On that point I agree.

Well, both go hand in hand. A bit like with the decadence of Western Rome and the Germanic barbarians.

Caution. Racially speaking those Muslims were quite white, because the converted Berber tribes and North-African Romans themselves were much whiter than the populations of those regions of today. Same is true with the Ottomans. The elites who conquered Anatolia were semi-mongolic, but the troops beleaguering Vienna were mostly white, consisting of converted Greeks and Balkanians (because of Devshirme).

Yes, theologically speaking Islam is bullshit, but it creates very driven and rapacious fighters, as hisitory shows.

Be a bit more humble. Passion rarely squares with historical insight.

Based on what argument, especially given that the Christian ERE survived a thousand years more?

Where do you get that picture from?

Disagree. By the 11th century, when the Great Schism happened, Europe was thoroughly christianized, up to the remotest corners of Scandinavia, although of course a measure of folk-beliefs survived until today.

Who pushes what? At least mainstream Christians are anything but "deus vult". I find the current church environments disgusting as well, in their hipocrisy and subversion.

I apologize. I just don't like obvious historiographical errors and unsubstantiated anti-Christian polemics.

There are two well-sourced quotes by Hitler on Islam, make of them, what you will:

"The Mohammedan religion too would have been much more compatible to us than Christianity. Why did it have to be Christianity with its meekness and flabbiness?" (Albert Speer's memoirs)

"Had Charles Martel not been victorious at Poitiers […] then we should in all probability have been converted to Mohammedanism, that cult which glorifies the heroism and which opens up the seventh Heaven to the bold warrior alone. Then the Germanic races would have conquered the world." (Table Talks)

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Adolf_Hitler#Hitler_on_Islam

I understand why you're doing this user, but still. This thread is completely gone.

I sincerely apologize. Perhaps the other user will have the last word, but personally, I will close the tab now and not respond further. Have a good day.

Good thinking user. Apology accepted.