Microsoft Will Force-patch Windows 10 To Make Steam Progressively Worse And More Broken

According to Epic founder, Tim Sweeney, Microsoft is force-patching Windows 10 to make Steam progressively worse and buggy.
In the interview with EDGE, Sweeney further outs his recent warnings that Microsoft is locking down the PC ecosystem with its Universal Windows Platform. The Epic founder states that this lockdown initially started with some “sneaky” PR moves from Microsoft.
“They’ve been able to [start] this via some sneaky PR moves. They make a bunch of statements that sound vaguely like they’re promising openness but really they’re not promising anything of the sort”, Sweeney told EDGE.

How exactly do you think Microsoft is locking down the PC to make it a closed platform?
There are two programming interfaces for Windows and every app has to choose one of them. Every Steam app – every PC game for the past few decades – has used Win32. It’s been both responsible for the vibrant software market we have now, but also for malware. Any program can be a virus. Universal Windows Platform is seen as the antidote to that. It’s sandboxed – much more locked down. The risk here is that, if Microsoft convinces everyone to use UWP, then they phase out Win32 apps. If they can succeed in doing that then it’s a small leap to forcing all apps and games to be distributed through the Windows store. Once we reach that point, the PC has become a closed platform. It won’t be that one day they flip a switch that will break your Steam library – what they’re trying to do is a series of sneaky maneauvres. They make it more and more inconvenient to use the old apps, and, simultaneously, they try to become the only source for the new ones.

Given that Steam is so widespread and popular, how could Microsoft truly win that battle, in terms of games at least?
Slowly, over the next 5 years, they will force-patch Windows 10 to make Steam progressively worse and more broken. They’ll never completely break it, but will continue to break it until, in five years, people are so fed up that Steam is buggy that the Windows Store seem like an ideal alternative. That’s exactly what they did to their previous competitors in other areas. Now they’re doing it to Steam. It’s only just starting to become visible. Microsoft might not be competent enough to succeed with their plan but they are certainly trying.

Isn’t it the case that Microsoft is simply mimicking Apple’s model, given how lucrative it’s proven to be for software distribution?
Sure, that’s the motivation. They’re trying to copy Apple’s model, but they realise you can’t just flip a switch. It has to be achieved in small step changes.

Several months ago, Sweeney already urged developers to “fight” against Microsoft and its “first apparent step towards locking down the consumer PC ecosystem”. According to Sweeney, Microsoft’s UWP initiative was Microsoft’s most aggressive move Microsoft to date to monopolize app distribution and commerce.

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Considering what some user who worked for MS said about their complete lack of vision and the bloated code they work with that even THEY don't fully understand, it seems weird to hear about such active conspiracies to make Steam shit.

Theres no way it will work out for them. Lots of people use and enjoy Steam, trying to force people to use your shit will only make people hate you

Save me, Stallman.

Kill me, Pete.

Shit, I hope Direct X 11 will come to Linux soon.

I rather doubt they're targeting Steam specifically but this is pretty standard M$ tactics. GFWL writ large.

If you wish to oppose this shit simply stick on Win7 or upgrade to your preferred Linux distro (dual booting is an option, of course). It'll come down to who blinks first much like Vista, Win8 and even shit as old as ME.

You didn't listen.

Yeah, if any of this is true I don't think they can pull that off.

If Mantle/Vulkan succeed in breaking the dominance of DirectX as is somewhat likely then all bets are off. I'm no delusional neckbeard who thinks this will be the Year of the Linux Desktop but in terms of vidya it's closer than ever.

If OP is right, we will reach a point where Wine will work better than Win10.

what a shitty alternate reality we ended up in

I had low to moderate hopes that the steam machines would make linux gaming a little bit more widespread.
I had some hope that UE4 would make developing for linux easier since you wouldn't have to redo a huge part of your code.
I had some hope that Vulkan would fuck the monopoly that DirectX has, and in turn make developing games for linux easier.

None of this helped or is helping enough.

Now this.

The only way to make linux gaming a thing, is to make normalfags use linux, and that's fucking impossible. The day that linux gaming will become a reality is the day that Microsoft willingly kills itself. Even then normalfags will fucking flock to Apple and make things even worse.

Yes but M$ will pull their standard trick of releasing the next iteration of DirectX and adding a fuckton more work/a delay. Most people will get bored waiting or will, unfairly, assume it's a problem on the Linux side and swap back (as has happened before). People need to push Vulkan/Mantle first to stop the amount of work growing. Once there's a finite amount of games that aren't Linux-compatible by default it's game over.

Until I can pick up any random game and play it with no hassle Linux will not take over as the dominant gaming platform. Even five minutes of tweaking will turn the majority off (users are dumb etc).

Feeding into this is backwards compatibility. Currently Linux+Wine is better at this than Win7 but there hasn't been a push to tell people this.

You think Valve is gonna sit back and let such a thing happen? You think Valve, with all their money and influence, couldn't jump shit and spearhead a new operating system if they really needed to? You think the technologically minded engineering types will skip an opportunity to build a new operating system to rival or replace Windows if Microsoft decides to do something so fucking stupid like this? Maybe I'm wrong, maybe the world is fucked and humanity is doomed, maybe Microsoft could get away with it. I just think that there are too many companies that rely on Windows as an open platform for someone out there to not notice and object to such changes.

Even normal dumbdumb users didn't like GFWL and Origin et al aren't doing too hot either. It seems like a bad idea to fuck with Steam and its userbase.

It's possible but the problem with the open source community is they don't want normalfags. Development is dominated by the loudest voices which are, without fail, fundamentalist shitheads who won't add basic features on principle.

Take the long-running argument over including proprietary software (e.g. Flash) by default. Having to deal with shit like that turns normalfags off immediately. Were such basic features included by default with an opt-out grognards could happily remove them and dumbfuck users would not see a system that is arguably working against them from day 1.

They more or less tried that already. M$ have repeatedly being convicted of monopoly-tier offences. They happily give shit free to Governments, Schools etc. Valve would have to accept making a massive loss on their OS assuming even they have the cash to make that sacrifice.

Linux got a big library. On steam (of older games), but don't forget Wine.

It ain't perfect, but a lot of people are working on it.
Seems to work better on Linux Mint- oddly.


Don't forget to shill Vulkan to the normalfags and developers if you want to see that change.
Sure bad developers will be given incentive to run DXwhatever (MS approved), but good devs will quickly learn how Vulkan is better- even without the MS strings attached.

Please. The steam OS and Steam machine shit was done in a way that was so completely incompetent I doubt anyone at valve really gave a shit.

Somebody gets it.
Normal users don't want to look up shit they're missing, they want it to "just werk", hence why W10 took away the most obvious options from the top of the OS and made things as automated as possible.

Well, one more thing to add to the "Reasons to learn linux" list. Now if only Overwatch worked

Likely because Mint was designed by sane voices rather than sandal-wearing fundamentalists. It's probably the best bet for normalfag-friendly Linux in decades, doubly so because all 'how to do x in Linux' tutorials assume old versions of Ubuntu and the instructions conveniently apply to Mint too.


Already am user. Luckily it can build on the good faith OpenGL gained over the years.


DX12+ will also limit their customers (40% of Steam users only). When/if it starts hitting their bottom line devs will start offering both by default. Once that happens M$ have lost their most powerful tool in the vidya industry.


Valve always come up with great ideas then half-arse them. After that they give up on them entirely. Take, for example, PS3/Steam crossplatform play, TF2's Medieval mode and Alien Swarm. Idea guys with no follow-through is not an unfair description.

Thats all post-2007 valve

Delete post and try again with better formatting. Then I'll read.

This, Linux users are the real reason why Linux has never taken off

I've already turned off updates on Windows 7 and will plan to switch to a different OS if worse comes to worse.

This… this is horrifying to read.

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I said if worse comes to worse like a forced update to 10 despite updates getting turned off in your settiings.

Plus windows 7 isn't going to get supported by game devs forever, so newer games will force some people to get a different OS.

Well unless they have a time-machine post-2007 Valve would be making this hypothetical new OS.

Obligatory Fuck 2007.

Sadly most in the Open Source community really couldn't care less. The attitude is either the aforementioned 'fuck normalfags' or even the complete inability to understand why someone would trade convenience for freedom. Even in the rare occasion someone understands this they often assume the solution is to educate people. Surprisingly such education (i.e. Stallman-tier shit) just pushes the view that Linux is only for hippies.

i doubt thatll happen. they already backed the fuck up as it is.
i havent seen a single good game so far that requires windows 10.

I'm dualbooting between Manjaro (arch linux variant) and Windows 7. Pretty fuckin' comfy, fam. I much prefer gaming and doing damn near everything on linux but MGSV, Warframe and Planetside 2 I jump back on to windows for.

My GPU died recently so I've been on linux non-stop and it's good to be back since I was balls deep into Planetside 2 recently. I just love everything about linux, easy to navigate, the package managers and how you install things, the command line when you want to be a leet haxor (or just make webms n' download YT vids).

Watching the W10 shitstorm gives me the same feeling as watching the 8th gen console shitstorm. Making me glad I jumped ship at the time I did.

And I hope it stays that way.
I just don't know how long Windows 7 would last us in the long run.

I want a pipe like that. Looks like a woodstock stem with a sand blasted finish.

Forever if you don't fuck about with viruses. keep anti-malware on and up to fucking date, there are people who still use even XP.

common sense is the best anti virus. having malwarebytes free on as a backup is okay, but so long as you're not a fucking retard, you won't see a single virus.

Well unless they have a time-machine post-2007 Valve would be making this hypothetical new OS.

Obligatory Fuck 2007.

Sadly most in the Open Source community really couldn't care less. The attitude is either the aforementioned 'fuck normalfags' or even the complete inability to understand why someone would trade convenience for freedom. Even in the rare occasion someone understands this they often assume the solution is to educate people. Surprisingly such education (i.e. Stallman-tier shit) just pushes the view that Linux is only for hippies.

Literally why

If Microsoft does this, I will buy a PS4 and spend the rest of my days playing on there.
FPS games and anything that requires aiming will be gone but I guess things will be alright.

That said I really fucking hope this is just false, but I wouldn't be surprised if it is true.

I'm amazed that someone this big is actually fighting the good fight.
Keep on rocking Tim

I know I haven't.

Mind you, this isn't some grand new innovation. This sort of shit is what Microsoft has been doing for decades.

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As long as Japan and ZUN doesn't abandon Windows 7 to go to 10, I'll be fine.

You really don't know what Windows Update will do to any Windows OS. Always disable/block it.

More importantly, does he cite any specific updates that fuck with Steam? Until he can do that, it's speculative clickbait. Before you start screaming that I moved one molecule out of "hate Windows 10" groupthink by considering that this person is offering no solid evidence: I don't use Steam or Win10.

That will never happen, people have hundreds, if not thousands of dollars worth of games tied to their steam accounts, they're not going to leave steam and all that behind to jump to a new platform, they're going to install a new OS.

If this is true the only people who will get fucked over will be Microsoft.

Win10: I'm not wearing panties

Holy fuck user spoiler that shit

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

So, just don't be retarded and install win10/auto-update? That seems pretty easy to avoid.

I wonder long win7/8.1 are going to live because of microdick's faggotry.

that pretty much fits exactly with what Tim Sweeney said.

It's not a carefully crafted conspiracy, it's a giant snowball of shitty code rolling downhill picking up speed as it goes, breaking other products along the way.

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As long as Japanese devs like ZUN don't abandon 7.

That's because she's a loose whore with no dignity.

Looks kinda soulless but then again if this is what the marketing team in Nipponland came up it's no wonder.

Fucking Valve does that every update. How the fuck would anyone notice if M$ did it?

Run Steam on Linux and it is one of the most laggy, shitty bloatware clients on the market. SteamOS is one of the worst distros (Install mint for a light distro). Even Origin is a faster and better client than Steam right now and you don't even need to be paid by EA to say that any more.

Unless this is some false flag operation by M$ to make Linuxfags look retarded by having a spokesman act retarded and a bunch of anti-M$ fags take them seriously in comments sections and forums. I can't take this seriously. Especially since there's no way in hell M$ would ever break Win 32 without pissing off massive enterprise customers, defense contractors and governments (The people they make the gajillions of money off) for the sake of videogame market share.

If M$ wanted it that badly. They will just buy Valve. The fat jew in charge would sell up once the price is right, anyway.

pretty sure gaben hates microsoft and that steam is his defiance of it

don't remind me ;_;

Nah. Gabe never hated M$ hated 8 because he feared the store would lock out Steam and also because M$ wouldn't take any feedback from Valve on Win 8 as a gaming OS. Win 10 they were there day 1 and Valve was the first third party M$ showed Scorpio to.

Valve don't need help from M$ to break steam. They do fine on their own.

Why?

Because handholding is lewd and absolutely immoral

Well pretty much any older windows game will work with dosbox

Does someone know when exactly Valve started their flat management hierarchy?
If you don't have a strong leadership that's actually demanding results and setting long-term goals, you get exactly what Valve and Chucklefuck are doing: half-assed shit.

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I'm pretty sure it was like that since the beginning user.

Her system has an unsecured backdoor.

Looks like Pirates are masterrace yet again

Enjoy your "free" patches buyfags

You can play over 1000 games on Linux

In fact Linux has more games now that PS4 and Xbox1 combined

TempleOS to the rescue

Yes, and most of them aren't games I want to play.
Wine is a piece of shit which most games run terribly in and you all know it.

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Which is where we hit the snag because in it's current state, Vulkan is fucking awful for developers because it costs money to take the time out and deal with poor documentation, poor support and awful resources. That iD dev who went on a rant got called out saying no one needs DX12 as it turned out AMD flew Khronos engineers out to do the port as iD were struggling to implement it. Other devs aren't getting special treatment. Meanwhile M$ extended xbox dev support to PC and solving a DX12 is easier for developers because they have a 24/7 helpline and good documentation. And that's for everyone including indie shovelware devs.

Vulkan shills are the same as the Open Source fundamentalist community in they don't understand the massive fucking problem in adopting Vulkan is that it costs developers money and time to to learn with barely any resources when DX12 is saving them money because all the documentation, resoucres and support is there.

I wanted Vulkan to take over as well and saw how Khronos repeatedly delayed the SDK and made the same mistakes they did with OGL. And look what happened. Only three fucking games support Vulkan because Khronos fucked up and made it expensive and costly to switch. And one is a mobile game that still runs like fucking ass on a galaxy S7.

Screaming "VULKAN WILL SAVE GAMING!" at the normalfags does nothing. All it says to them is "I'm an anti-M$ Linux+GNU Grognard" *Tips Fedora*. Sony's told devs there's no fucking chance they are getting a wrapper either.

You have to give the normalfags better reasons. And I can't think of any but "M$" at the minute.

At least Microsoft releases games and not just virtual hats and paid mods. I support steam being phased out to kill the cancer that is modern valve.

oy vey

Come at it from another angle. Convince normalfags to go 100% mobile. Not Windows mobile obviously.

It's all ogre.

Good thing i am a linux mint user now.

Have Nes, Snes, Genesis, GBA, PSP, NDS, PS1, PS2, Wii emulators.

Enough vidya to satisfy me. Mostly play snes games anyway, but wii and ps2 ones run fine.

Also noticed Dragon Academy 2, Dragon Carnival and Dragon Mahjongg Evolution i liked playing on windows work perfectly on wine too, with bunch of other porn games i liked.

Linux + Wine is a great machine, i hope more people will hop over to it, because windows is now completely jewish supermacist goyim watching spy botnet.

Have you played Terranigma?
It's one of the best SNES games.

I heard good things about it. Like Dragon Quest 7 world rebuilding was inspired by it. I was looking forward to play it after i am done with DQ series and Chrono Trigger. I still have a huge backlog of things i never completed.

This. FOSS is the communism of software. Closed source proprietary software made by private companies is the aryan way.

play all 3 in order. soul blazer, illusion of gaia, and terranigma.

also actraiser (1) goes along well with the three.

is good shit.

Being a non-weeb I'm safe, but truth is, nips are crazy ms suckers. They'll gladly switch to 10-exclusive tools.

As for the rest of us, I hope you guys all used Aegis to block off the 10 bullshit.

This proves you are non-weeb, cause you don't know shit. Most nips always make their porn games, or doujin games to be available for older system users. Sometimes even 95/98 users.

Sounds about right, pretty sure there's a thread on Holla Forums right now about how France is threatening to ban the OS or some stupid shit because of the amount of user data it collects. They probably didn't say 'ban it' but somewhere along those lines.

The latest update not only got rid of multiple rewards per key, but made it impossible to tell what key people are using until the end of the mission. That game is finally dying too, there are frequently

Don't make fun of my disability.

Stop using a phone.

I know m8 but I still enjoy the combat and playing with mic'd up friends. The meta for us is making platinum now, anyway. I'm almost @ 3K. There's a WF thread anyway

I think you're the latest poster there, maybe. I know the game is getting shitter in many ways but I still have some keys and ways of making plat. I'll just burn through it until Tekken 7 comes out or when I get my new GPU for Witcher: Wild 3 Hunt without having to lower it to 720p in order to maintain 40+fps.

Japs are still using XP so you are fine for a while.

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True - that I am a non-weeb - get all my info from a weeb friend who claims that most weebs are not even familiar with the word "Linux" (not to mention GNU/Linux), and even apple computers are hard to come across.
It's just Windows, Microsoft and MS Tans as far as the eye can see (save for Playstation and Nintendo consoles)

There are still distros without the corruption my friend.
Don't lose hope.
For example Void is a real nice distro which uses runit.Its what I use.
As always Gentoo is also a solution.the moment Gentoo falls is when you need to really start panicking.

*most Nips

Yeah, sure. Also most serious japanese companies that care about security of their data use linux exclusively.

volafile.io/get/Tt52P34Iw66zpw/Terranigma - 8x16 Font Width v1.0 by MopoZ (Hack) [f1] (NTSC v1.0 by BFeely).zip
This is the only rom I know that works with the the font width and ntsc restoration patch, the ntsc patch breaks patched manually.

Thanks.

Its a scam. Its more likely just unlocked dx11.

Well, I'll relay your inquiry to Dave the Weeb.
Thanks for the correction.

I'm glad that Japan is behind on PCs for once.

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I am
I guess playing the game to be a space jew is pretty fun, when it manages to work out without you having to go full-autist.
I went full-autist once and ground up 6 Loki Prime sets the week before he was vaultedNever again.

Steam has a big library. Unfortunately, Steam is DRM cancer, not GNU/Linux. More GNU/Linux support is what we need rather than closed "platform" horseshit like Steam and Windows 10.

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I fucking hate asians.
Fucking ants with human features, they don't even have good taste in videogames.

There's also GOG, which has neat installation gui (with high res icons being installed right into startup menu and shit) for linux games.

gog.com/games?system=lin_mint,lin_ubuntu&sort=bestselling&page=1

Don't bully me about mint. I plan on switching to gentoo when I understand things better

Only fools didn't see this coming.
Remember to request every dev you like to support Vulkan

People bully for mint? I though people got bullied only for ubuntu. Mint is easy to use and has all packages available for ubuntu also usable on it. It seems like a great system to switch over from windows.

I don't know, i won't switch from mint because its just easy to use.

I'd agree but most games coming out still run on Windows XP without too much trouble, let alone 7. DX9 is very hard to kill it seems.


This pretty much.


You mean the "if you don't know how to make this change to the kernel and recompile this other thing from source then you shouldn't use a computer, PS all software should be free and developers should live off voluntary donations/gov't subsidy/bank robberies" crowd?


Come now user. You didn't think there aren't zealots for particular distros who flip their shit when they find someone using something else, did you?

Also never use Ubuntu, it's spyware heavy itself. No point in dumping Win10 for that.

Lets just hope that mint (being the forth most used operation system in the world) won't copy ubuntu in its ideas.

gentoo is just a meme.

loonix as a whole is tbh.

People start on mint all the time m8. Personally I prefer Archbang.

How the hell did you get that running? I had to throw a PS1 emulator through wine cause all of the emulators built for linux were shit. Hell, trying to get my xbox controller to work on the damn thing is still a bitch and a half with jstick being buggy shit.

Mint is a literal meme tier distro whose only real purpose for existence is for experiencing Cinnamon, the most cancerous shitty fucking desktop environment after Unity. Just use Xubuntu, its defaults are a bit better than Mint's own implementation of Xfce.

but XFCE is dead user

I have seen a laptop on windows 10.
Shit takes 5 minutes to start up.
5 FUCKING MINUTES
JUST TO GET TO THE LOGIN SCREEN
I may be a patient man, but having to wait 5 minutes between turning the fucking thing on and still having to enter my username and password to get to the desktop is too much.

AFAIK almost everything is plug and play on retroarch in linux.
Somehow even easier than on windows, retroarch on windows 7 crashes on start on many different versions, psxfin slows down after a while for some reason.

Fucking shit, if i wasn't too paranoid to break my computer or GRUB again i would reinstall linux.


It's a beautiful corpse

Valve does not and never will need to make money on their OS. In fact, since it's based on Debian, I don't think they legally can. What they desperately need to do is preserve their captive audience of dumbfucks trading cards and other stupid shit with or without Microsoft. The tricky bit is getting those normalfags onto Linux/SteamOS where none of their other normal software works. Not everyone is going to be down with having a "work PC" and a "play PC," and dual-booting is probably not an option either due to user ineptitude and Valve not wanting to shoulder the cost of providing support for it.

Valve should have begun this move almost as soon as Steam launched. Gaben knew the ins and outs of Microsoft, he had to know this day was coming.

They just moved on to v4.14 recently with 4.15 planned after that and they even incorporated some of my feedback. It's hardly dead. "Mature" is the word. There's only a few minor things I can think of anymore that would be nice to have compared to other DEs.

I hate it when people try to suggest that Steam isn't a closed platform. There are many games that require it and most devs see it as the only option for pc gaming.

I'll give it a try, thanks.

I used snes9x.

sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ewscott9/snes9x
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install snes9x-gtk

That's it. That's all you need to do to install it right into your menu->applications->games

does that mean that they're finally moving to GTK3+ then?

reminder that XFCE is people repeating the same mistakes that Trinity / KDE3 made

m8 do you even have RetroArch installed?

MacOS Sierra won't even let you open a program that you didn't get from their App Store. You instead need to hold ctrl when you open it and it will still work as before.

Which are what exactly?

Say that they completely killed gaming. Like Hollywood stile propaganda on console games with barely any gameplay, and PC completely crippled.

What would be the next best thing as a gamer refugee?

Good luck with that. The infinite power of Christ couldn't make the Windows Store seem appealing.

I really dont know where to ask but I trust you idiots:

It's about time for a new PC, where can I order a modern PC that comes with Win7? Where do you guys shop for good deals on computers? I used to build them with my brother but he's gone. Doesn't have to be the latest thing, just $500 or so, this toaster is ancient.

Cool, thanks.


Haven't tried it yet, thought it was a meme cause it was always talked about being able to play "anything" and better than dedicated emulators ive used for years.

/agdg/
failing that
>>>/tg/

Or buy a pc without OS and install one yourself

RetroArch is just a bunch of already existing emulators thrown into one installation.

Yeah good luck with that I guess.

Doesn't N64 emulation work better through Dolphin's Virtual Console or something?

You mean Direct Wailand?

If they suddenly forced every PC that updated to only use UWP you damn well know that the normalfags would obey M$.
(Whether it be out of tech illiteracy or straight up stupidity)

Install linux on it to make sure your build works and then pirate windows 7 via linux

Mac has always been the bigger devil, they just never had the market share to screw everyone over.

But if MS wants to emulate them, in order to get that sweet app money, then there's a potential problem.

But is the heart of the matter. Even if MS cripples Win32 on purpose (I think if they do cripple it, it'll be due to competency issues) then they won't go to UWP. You'll see a mass migration to Android and OSX before that happens. In particular OSX will become the "business" OS…


You know, maybe in a few years, but not right now. There are no good UWP apps or games out there at all. If you can't even do productivity on a Windows box, let alone gaming, there's no point.

I've seen this and one other image. I'm not saying that it's bullshit (I believe him when he says he worked at Microsoft), but a lot of it boils down to general bureaucratic deficiency and lies/obvious truths disguised as mind-blowing revelations. For instance, he says there won't be a Windows 11. Well no shit, they pretty much said as much in a press release some time back. He also mentioned Microsoft tried to make a managed (.NET) Windows system and still "failed." He was probably talking about Singularity, which was a research project never intended to see the light of day anyway.

have a laptop with an ssd for win10

It boots up easy

and yes, I'm still looking for a win7 install

Build yourself, it's easy, cheaper and there is no hardware DRM like some companies use.

lol Try Redhat and SUSE. They are already more common in the enterprise market than Win10.

Dell, their business machine can still ship with Win 7 since many business won't touch Win10 because of botnet and privacy issue and crazy shit like HIPAA.

Gaben's relation with M$ is that he wanted wanted an alliance to protect his investment. Thing is M$ never took him seriously enough even though he lobbied for M$ to consult valve on gaming. On Win 8 he got turned down again and then started formulating plans for his own boxes and OS which were a catastrophic failure.

The thing is, post-Xbone debacle. Almost entire gaming management at M$ gets replaced. Xbox is moved from its own division to a subsidiary of Windows and Gabe Newell gets people on his side for once in M$ management and people he worked with in the 90's. Valve were the first company M$ showed Scorpio to before DICE and Bethesda. Gabe's not going to announce it because he doesn't want steam to lose its "Cred" or the "small company" mentality its customers have but he's getting what he wanted with M$ all along which was the hotline to the Windows division and a say in M$'s PC gaming plans. Gabe likely wants more like M$ exclusives on Steam (Forza Horizon 3 on Steam would print money) but he'll take what he gets while it's good

If anything, I'd only get worried if GOG Galaxy starts seeing problems. Origin and Steam, they are all in good with M$. It's when they start trying to break compatabilty with smaller clients like, I don't know, Epic Launcher. Then it's time to install GNU+Linux.

What do?

Play another game

Why are you such a cuck? Would you mind to get some delicious icecream, but for the price of someone with aids fucking you in the butt?

Say what you will about steam but I absolutely love that it exists as it makes day-1 cracks so much easier.

Show some self control, lots of shitty devs will be releasing win10 exclusives over the next couple of years. If you don't learn to control yourself you might as well just install win10 now.

For now it's DRM in optional which makes it better for indie devs than looking for a publisher that will insist on DRM to "protect their investment".

No one should play Windows 10 exclusive games, really, they are already garbage if developer even considered making them exclusive. They don't care about you or about producing a good game, they only care about rising sales of the jewish botnet they made contract with. Its all about money.

And microsoft gains power over watching above thousands gamer faggots who were stupid enough to fall for that, like an all seeying eye.

Fuck off, just because you are virgins don't mean Microsoft or Windows is some giant conspiracy theory lol

???

Well shit, I installed windows 10 now

I have good news user, there is an entire universe of games already waiting for you
you would never be able to play them all and you are going to love everything you missed
….as a bonus you won't be pouring cash into a corrupt shitty industry so it will die shorty after

then after it all burns down it can be rebuilt by the people who started it in the first place…….nerds

Have an extra (You), (You) have earnt it.

Thank you thank you, no need for the applause, let's settle down now boys

Good goy. You earned your shekel. The more people install windows 10 the better.

That's for the back end. You think a middle manager is gonna use SUSE to shit out an e-mail or Powerpoint-type-thing?

They're already a monopoly and they want to save that monopoly, however tablets and smart phones are fucking them up.

Soon most people will only need a tablet and smart phone to do everything they need, it's already happening. The only people with pcs then will be autist, gaymers and workers. Shit, even workers might go back to terminals with cloud computing.


systemd>microshit

My sides. They said loading pc is 28% faster than windows 7. My linux loads like from pressing a power button to opening a browser like around half a minute maximum.

Of course. They already do. They use what ever IT installs for them.

Microsoft lost the back-end a long time ago. Now they are losing the enterprise desktop, too.

Is that supposed to be a good thing? Mine is completely silent, if it started making sound its processing a huge amount

"make your pc purr" is a code for "poor"

Ackshyually, GPL allows you to sell your programs, as long as you share your source code, and there are some Linux distros that cost money, such as Red Hat Enterprise Linux, though they are mostly taking money for corporate client support, and provide free versions of their distros.


They have said somewhere that every new Steam user means direct profit for them. It means that their operating system would be completely free, and they would make money anyway from game sells, software sells, market kikery, and so on.

Then win10 would make your PC purr when you first install it, it needs to gather, compress and send all meta data it can find.

when he starts to talk about microsoft .net framework it reminds me of this problem i had once
now i ask you how did they get it installed on their machines to begin with?

conspiracy implies there is secrecy involved

Works on my machine.


It's not dead, it simply reached perfection and ascended beyond the mortal plane :^)
(All desktop environments are bloat anyway. Install a tiling window manager, scrub.)

Uh, you got some stats for that? I don't know anyone who is trashing Word or PP on my end.

some of the lead developers are attention whores but other than that retroarch is great and they do everything autistically right.
For instance when you run it fullscreen it doesn't stretch the picture but instead upscales it to the perfect fit resolution nearest to your monitor's resolution and they have a dedication with providing the lowest latency possible, porting everything to the most platforms possible and not only porting emulators to libretro, but also improving on them.

Well, this is pretty insane, although I have mixing feelings about this.

This may help to kill this shit OS easily, this is not even about Steam or gaming, we're talking about every executable file and M$ won't be able to pay absolutely every developer to port their software to Windows 10. Even normalfags who use this piece of shit already hate Windows Store and every Windows 10 user can't live without executable files at all, moreover, fucking every Linux user is dealing with Win32 apps on daily basis. Finally everyone would drop Windows 10, killing Win32 app support isn't something minor, you can't justify it if you're Windows user. And it's not like this is the first shitty Windows OS, everyone at least remember Vista if they don't 95.

On the other hand, my biggest concern are retards who won't be able to leave Windows 10 because they're incompetent idiots. There are people even on this very site who have no idea that it's possible to pirate every Windows OS. Normalfags know about piracy, but it seems like most of the time it's Russians who don't bother with buying Windows. Not sure if it's worth mentioning Linux as an alternative, many retards are afraid of fucking Ubuntu after all. PC as platform will be doomed if people going to accept it and still use Windows 10, this definitely would force developers to use Windows Store.

However, M$ can just scare away people from PC. There is always mobile market and mobile oriented companies, Google or Apple would use such opportunity, plus most of M$ real consumers, businessmen, aren't willing to touch Windows 10, they're using Windows 7 and XP. There is also EU which loves to fight with M$ monopolization attempts.

if anyone wants games, the open source gaming thread has a lot of games that are available for GNU/Linux:

also theres a Xonotic thread: and a Minetest thread:
if you wanna play with other people


draw some then
the krita mascot is pretty gud but its a squirrel
also krita is really good, could draw your OS-tan with that

Krita is cute

I agree with the rest of the post, mostly, but I don't think this will happen for two reasons:
1) Microsoft will eventually drop support for other Windows versions. Windows 7, the bastion for many, is slated to leave extended support in 4 years.
2) The alternatives are currently laughable. OS X has a good chance of making up ground, but Linux gaming is still not there yet, and unless a few amazing things happen in the next few years, like widespread adoption of Vulkan, I don't see it gaining a whole lot more traction.

It pains so much. I needed a free AV for my dad's old PC that runs Windows XP, AND IT TURNS OUT YOU CAN NO LONGER USE MSE ON XP. Fucking bullshit.
Honestly, Apple domination would be even worse than Microsoft domination

This is the part that makes me nervous. Imagine a company that does all the stupid shit MS does twice over, makes it worse AND you have their users defend it like fucking Jonestown residents.

mac os has always been better than microsoft windows really, apple domination wouldn't be worse than microsoft domination but the catch is everything we don't want microsoft to do to windows apple already did to osx 2 times harder and the users defend them instead of reprehending them

Ex-Macfag here, THIS. The crazy conspiracy theory about killing the Win32 API? He proposed it because Apple has done that and worse, getting away with killing Carbon, 32-bit Cocoa, and now unsigned apps are on the chopping block (not to mention their hamfisted treatment of Classic, PPC OS X, and Rosetta, which was dictated entirely on the basis of compliance with class-action lawsuit settlements regarding long-term institutional support contracts).

Probably not

Unstable binary interfaces in the kernel, drivers, major libraries ensure Linux is never a serious contender for desktop use.

This is by design. The people writing core linux libraries, and to some extent the kernel devs, do not want stable binary interfaces. It would allow Linux to be much more easily used and maintained by proprietary software devs. Games on Linux are proprietary software and basically a casualty of the GNU philosophy.

You know this kind of sucks for people still running 7.
But shit I'm running 8.1 and now on MSE it's got a fucking count down timer to "not being supported" and worse yet, there have been 8.1 windows things that microsoft has just shut off. Even if they don't require a connection to microsoft. Like the 8.1 Skype app which uses less resources than the desktop one, can be snapped so borderless fullscreen games can run along side it, AND you can assign a keyboard to ONLY send inputs to the app so you can play without removing focus from the game.
In fact I think most of the multiple mouse/keyboard features have been forcibly disabled in updates, which sucks. I love using two keyboards.
This is fucking awful.

Some of the stuff I've seen from a distance, but yeah Macfags get screwed like that on a regular basis. Part of the reason Apple has been restricted to artistic/media fields is because of their horrible record with backwards compatibility. That's poison for business where you can still find boxes running DOS + floppy drive in mission critical tasks even.


The "we don't want non-coders" crowd again.

there was a hack on window xp that did just that i think but besides clicking random things on the desktop until it crashed nothing happens

I work in a lab and the only reason we use Windows is legacy software. Otherwise I would switch every machines to Linux and not have to deal with MS's bullshit ever again.

Vulkan literally just started
UE4's license scheme makes it too expensive for commercial developers compared to stuff like Unity, it killed itself from the start.

Godot is making some progress, already good for 2D games and it is open source.

for those that don't play games theres not really much missing on GNU/Linux. it does fecesbook and youtube, 99% of what normalfags do consists of that. it is literally easier to install than Windows, at least Ubuntu and its derivatives are.


Flash is being phased out by major corporations at this point. not to mention several distros include Flash by default. this is a non-issue.

Gamergate, this interview with Sweeney, the goal is clear, EVERYTHING WILL BE LOCKED DOWN AND CONTROLLED. THE NARRATIVE MUST BE MAINTAINED AT ALL COSTS.

/v, you must be Holla Forumslacks at least temporarily to fight this cancer. It will not get better unless you fight back in RL. The world needs your autism to save it. The white western world needs to be purged of the Jews and liberal garbage like Sarkeesian. If you don't then kiss your viyda goodbye forever. Games are crap right now anyway so why not start a revolt?

I wouldn't say that the other options are terrible as far as gaming is concerned. Most anons here could probably transition to Linux for their games with little fuss; In my experience the only games that wine has real trouble with are AAA games from post-2010, which I don't think many anons would be that interested in anyway.

Linux revolution when?

never ever

Okay, Microsoft.

sorry mate i mean it smart phones and tablets will become the device of choice for normalfags before linux

You ain't fooling anyone, leftytard
>>>Holla Forums

Every place I'm aware of around me either uses Windows up front (from the secretary to the big boss) or, if they are in media, MacBooks. Linux is treated with fear and revulsion because "it doesn't just work", except with IT of course who find it very useful for their purposes.

I think this is arguable, not just because it would be pointless to use new hardware if there will be no Win32 app support, even if devs will be forced to move to Windows Store I doubt they'll see good sales, at worst PC gaming will die. I think AMD/nVidia would still make drivers for Windows 7 and 8.1. They would lose shitton of money unless retards will move to Windows 10 of course.

Though I don't know how they were able to force Intel to drop Windows 7 support for their Skylake processors. Is it because their audience which I assume are developers mostly use Linux? It's not like you need very powerful CPU for gaming.

Personally I'm not dropping Windows 7 even after the end of support, even if it's going to be a problem, I have Linux. Actually I'm not even sure about quality of games.

Besides, I doubt Valve will let them get away with something like that. They would have no choice but to get people on Linux otherwise Valve would lose shitton of money as well. Moreover, if M$ decide to kill Win32 apps, they going to use this opportunity too, they would get a lot of software devs on their side. They have enough money to advertise their own OS and it won't even take much to get people to use Linux systems, Sony with their PS4 is the best example how easy it is to destroy M$. PS4 is successful only because M$ fucked up hard with Xboner. Killing Win32 app support is even worse.

My laptop has 8, and I wanted to downgrade to 7. But the trouble is making sure you can find drivers that work on 7 for all your laptop's components before you make the switch, or else you could end up making it unusable. I got rid of the 10 upgrade crap and any spyware updates before turning off updates entirely and have just been living with it. My desktop's 7 and I mostly use the laptop for web browsing. I may try to install 7 on it another time.

'Year of the Linux Desktop' is undoubtedly the most long-lasting meme involving a computer OS. While its meme quality isn't as potent as 'GNU plus Linux', its features simply aren't deniable.

they havn't even released UE4 on linux yet (in a simple click and install way)

ya blew it

Sounds like typical conspiracy bullshit.

Like those retards who said win10 would block pirated software.

Sure MS is pimping UWP. Google is pimping the PlayStore. Doesn't mean Win32 is going to disappear.

Fuck I removed the Store and everything works just fine.

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Now that I think about it the biggest threat to PC gaming is Valve. Arguably PC is no longer "open system" thanks to Steam.

Still typing exactly as I did in 2001 junior.

Yeah, w10 sending a screenshot to microsoft every 10 minutes is also a crazy right-wing conspiracy theory. Those fox news watching retards amirite? *fistbumbs*

things I want to purr:
>women
Things I don't want to purr:

The nice thing though is that they don't have to offer both if they use OpenGL since that shit will work just fine on W10, you use OpenGL when you're releasing for anything multiplatform or at least on non MS platforms.


Jewgle may not be the greatest of companies for surveillance reasons but if anyone can take down Microsoft it's them. Compared to Microsoft they're reasonably competent and release the source code to their main projects. I think what we'll see is a merge between Android and ChromeOS so that Android apps can be used on the desktop, and that will be the go-to OS for casual users which is nice because it's still a linux distro which will hopefully standardize linux to some degree. Then devs will target Android rather than Windows and anyone using a similar enough distro to Android will be able to play anything that gets ported.

Also I would not be surprised to see Google push for ARM CPUs on desktop computers (or at least laptop) to have a consistent instruction set. It'd be nice to see an actual competitor to Intel who have a monopoly on desktops just about as strong as Microsoft.

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If they take down Microsoft I'll be happy because that will open up actual third party support for non-Jewgle linux systems which is the only reason I have to have fucking Winblows 7 dual booted.

Google won't open up a damn thing. If anything they'll just patent troll the industry to death in endless wars between themselves and Apple.

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Stallman is a jew: save yourself.

Android is already open source and I'll take spyware laden versions of linux over spyware laden versions of windows. Because the linux shit is open source so it's easy to have alternatives that are supported just as much by third parties. With Windows this is not the case.

that's really sad good thing i didn't buy a current gen console :^)

ReactOS

As I said with Ubuntu earlier in the thread, there is no point to move from Win10 to Ubuntu. I will extend that to Android and every other distro similar to those two.

I'm gonna ride Windows 8.1 until 2023 when the updates stop. Hopefully by then at least some UWP-only games will be playable in some form on Linux.

I never advocated switching to Ubuntu at any point, did you know that there are actually linux distros that aren't Ubuntu?

Mint is similar to Ubuntu, is easy for newcomers, and doesn't have any canonical/Amazon spyware shit.

Perhaps but it doesn't really matter if they're playable on linux if they continue the trend of being terrible pieces of shit. There are still no good UWP games.

why does anyone use nigbuntu over arch?

theres like four different smoothing settings idiot
docs.krita.org/Introduction_to_Krita_coming_from_Painttool_Sai

works on my machine

Because everybody, but you, are idiots.

wew lad
I'm not going to start using a program that does what I want to do worse than my current one already does.

i didn't make the image. what editing features are better in GIMP? and how do you know if you don't use Krita?

All you need to know is that that shit program is popular with furries

i don't mean that i mean it looks so fucking ugly

Yeah? I was specifically bringing up spy distros, so what's the problem? Why would I talk about Mint in that case?


I just want GIMP to get CYMK support some day. If it does that it might make some inroads on PS's slice of the pie. That said I'll take it over Krita and the competition.

You need to go back

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How many games Epic ported to Linux?How many were made natively to Linux? Instead of whining like a bitch and virtue signaling ask your fellow developer to start porting to Linux, start making shit for it even if it doesn't sell too good.Stop taking money from Microsoft, fucking fight if you are serious.

No no, if they were offering improvements to everyone but Steam that'd be unbelievable. Them making Window work more and more poorly would happen anyway so them just adding a bit of sabotage along the way makes perfect sense.

This is hilariously stupid. Making a PC a closed platform completely defeats the purpose of having a PC. It's basically a buggy console at that point. There is no way this will work, people don't want this

A non-issue now sure. It was, however, an issue for fucking years and was anyway just one example of this 'fuck the normals' attitude that will always keep Linux out of the mainstream.

I like that Linux is not very popular. Sure it is an inferior product and not as good as it could be for gaming, but I like browsing the internet with impunity because almost nobody targets it.

IF I SEE THAT FUCKING YEAR ONE MORE TIME

But redpilling everyone on microsoft practices and how shit their botnet is - is the starting point of fighting.

More people will use linux system = more shit will get ported to it. Its simple, motherfucker. Where's demand - there is supply.

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I've not been following it too closely but that's sad to hear. OpenGL may still be the better thing to shill for then. Sadly any real opponents to M$ seem to be intent on shooting themselves in the foot instead of actually looking at why plebs use M$ products (as you say ease of use and good documentation).


Most 'new' versions of DX are a scam user. It's just a tool to keep people upgrading. The largest competitor to Windows is generally older versions of Windows after all.


That's the ones.

TBF Epic didn't actually port the games, they contracted out.

These guys make some great points as to why Linux will NEVER be pupular, but let me just add one more from my personal experience. Linux is a superior OS to windows there can be no doubt. Greater functionality, and greater control over that functionality. But it's way too much for me, even windows is much more functionality than I need. It is becoming increasingly obvious that if I want an OS specifically for gaming I am going to have to make one myself. But I am not very tech savvy myself so that is probably not going to happen
TL;DR
Linux is more than I need, I just want to play video games on my PC

Smart users can - and should - opt out. Dumb users struggle with an opt in. Shouting SECURITY HAZARD SECURITY HAZARD at everyone who asks 'why doesn't shit work out the box'? is what causes people to give up on Linux without even trying.

There's a reason Year of the Linux Desktop is a meme.


Even if one was created it'd probably get fucked over with feature-creep.

It's taken them 30 years, but Microsoft may finally manage to realize the dream that IBM sought for: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_Personal_Computer

People want things that just work. They couldn't give two shits about it being a closed platform as long as Facebook, Steam and CoD run fine. Before you claim the average person is smart enough to think otherwise consider politics: people happily vote for candidates they know to be corrupt simply because it's easy. Idealism must be tempered with pragmatism if it is ever going to achieve anything.

How we teach our generation to be computeraly literrate, when only things they are doing on their computers is browsing facebook, shitposting on twitter and instagram? Most of them don't even use computers, they do it all on their phones.

Fucking generation on zombies, that try to express themselves "socially" to look "unique", but in reallity are no different from one another because of lack of understand basic principles of how internet or computer fucking work.

For them a phone is a magical brick that allows them to tweet shit and take selfies.

I may feel old. But in reality its not me who is old, everyone around me instead are illiterate degenerate liberal cucked shitholes. I don't wont to work with those people, i don't want to take a bus with those people, i don't want to do anything with those people.


user, think about what you are saying. Since when computers were first about video games? There are fucking consoles if you want just video games. Some of them can be hacked for piracy and shit. You are no better than average normalfag.

After all since when we are switching to linux because of video games? Most of us switch to linux because of our conservative views.

I switched to Linux because I don't want to be controlled, I don't have to like it. But that is my only requirement, video games and nothing else. I should learn to crack my consoles to, it's not hard from what I have seen. I don't need anything else, but I sure as hell will not be told what I need by some corporation. Linux is fine enough, but it is much more than I need

Consoles typically do not have games as wide and deep as a PC game COULD be. I will be switching to linux when windows makes the ultimate retard move of making it harder to play video games. Either way they aren't getting any more of my money and haven't since I've been riding the same copy of win 7 over my last 2 rigs.

You wouldn't happen to know a magnet for a windos 7 iso would you? I would like to install it along side my Linux system

I've never used Linux in my life, but each and ever game dev should be making Linux versions of their games from now.

I want to be free of Microsoft.

Unlikely, Linux is less than 1% of the market from what I remember. In any case it is too small to consider.

Chicken before the egg, user.

People don't use Linux because nogaems. Nogaems because people don't use Linux.

Pushing for things like OpenGL allows games to work on both Linux and Windows (and quite possibly even OSX) with little-no downsides. Market share doesn't matter after that.

OpenGL isn't a magical "works with Linux" button. You need more work than that.

True but most of that work can be done by others if necessary. OpenGL also has the advantage of not fucking over Windows users who don't want to upgrade (i.e. everyone who doesn't like Win10).

No, because no one has the source code to those games.

Otherwise every OpenGL game would already be getting Linux community ports.

Something isn't right about your post, consider re-reading what you just typed. There's a huge fucking mistake that make entire sentence worthless.

Alright doods what a Linux operating system that's just as easy or easier to use than windows that requires no technical knowledge has regular updates and has a gigantic library of gaymes and software including new gaymes? Ascetic means nothing to me as long as it works.

I'll switch to linux for you fignuts on my new desktop I'm building as long as the operating system is completely hassle free.

While I'm here asking these questions what's a good security software combo, I use malwarebytes premium and avast

Krita runs like supreme ass whenever I use it. One thing keeping me from linux is how beautifully optimized Sai is. Can't wait until VMs with passthrough get easier

The 24 hour captcha hasn't been loading all day until now. Why the fuck do we still have that piece of shit?

This is bretty good

All right then I guess it doesn't exist, I'll just stick with windows 7 then I guess.

You're not the only one, had the same problem earlier

>>>Holla Forums631623

Linux Mint nigger.

it is, if I want to draw a nice feminine penis I'll use krita, if I want to make a superimpose tits onto the face of Bernie Sanders I'll use GIMP. It's not like you can't use both.


Same

Explain.

Alright I'll try it out thanks

There's adapters that work for PS3 and PS4 that let you use keyboard and mouse.

Use Xubuntu, Mint is a meme-tier distro run by retards who can't even keep their website secure.

Kali Linux is on the other partition.

I heard that DirectX is going to have to start competing with Vulkan. With that, it will be easier for even big vidya to jump from the Windows ship once Microsoft puts too many holes in it for even them.

Considering they're entirely shameless at this point, I'm going to guess they'll try and gimp Win 7 in a similar fashion.

Kali Linux is for penetration testing, not data security.

It will never work. See:
Games for Windows Live

I know, it does pretty good at security without going overboard.

Most secure as in destructibility right? Otherwise your hardware is as back doored as any other.

The closest you can come to secure hardware is modifying a Thinkpad with Libreboot or buying a already modified Libreboot T400/X200 which are retarded expensive for what they are. Or some other special snowflake meme hardware that Holla Forums or /g/ masturbates over

This IS special snowflake meme hardware though.
At least there's no chinese back doors, all manufactured in japan.

I own weirder shit anyway

That's a good start. They should make a patch that prohibits Steam users from connecting to Holla Forums. That would be ideal.

It's Microsoft, they will do this by making literally everything progressively more broken.

I just made a server with Ubuntu Server 10, and the system does volume encryption.
The fileserver is behind a hardware firewall, and the server itself is told to ignore all requests outside of the home IP range.
I also isolated my Win7 machine from everything and migrated all work to my Fedora desktop.

You own one of those UMPC? Thats pretty neat, always wanted a Vaio P series myself they're too expensive

You can play over 2000 games on the PS2 alone. Even if 1000 whole games was somehow considered an impressive number, quantity != quality.

Yeah they are, but I wanted to own a piece of history.
I have my eye on one of those toughpad models too but they stop manufacturing them in 2014 so they're gonna get more expensive soon.

I do something similar with my windows 8 laptop. I also own a Buffalo router with DDWRT installed.

has that stopped Steam so far?

I have only heard about Vulkan recently, is it basically an alternative the DirectX monopoly?

Remember that time Microsoft thought it was going to beat the Ipod ?
Oh and remember that time they tried the Windows Phone and what a smash hit it was ?
Remember the Xbone and their terrific PR surrounding the console ?
Oh wait….There are probably even more M$shit disasters I can't even list

Microshit is an embarrassment of the company they once were. If they are foolish enough to try and topple Steam, I welcome their eventual failure.

I can't wait till the day we can freely play games on Linux and I can dump these fuckers into the trash can they belong in.

Got the edited 2016 version, dubs man?

all youd have to do is add paid modds

He is talking about the version that has Gabe dressed up as a jewish rabbi

Make a new damn os and make it mandatory on all steam games.

The third one makes no sense. Valve doesn't make games, so they can't be unfinished, and refunds have been implemented.

Linux is a meme and will never become a worthwhile platform to use.
I do love it though, I just wish Valve did more to help it along to gain some foothold on the market.

I mean shit even just giving money to devs to lower the price of their games for linux. Or fuck it, even lowering their share of money for a game sold on linux.

how long until gaben sacrifices all of valve to join the godhand?

For the Lord that is heavenly, merciful, and graceful, tell me who was commissioned to make that image.

I laughed, screeched, cried, and kawaii'd all over. I need bless the artist with an appropriate blessing.

I hope by the time Microsoft completes his master plan, we already have the hardware needed to brute force everything using virtual machines, and some linux distro had matured into a more user friendly experience rather than aiming at being an universal toolbox React OS never ever

Krita mascot a cute, a cute!

no it does not.

there is some russian hoax video on youtube claiming it does but that's it.

Steam itself is a closed source drm platform that spies on it's users.

Get your shit together fud fags.

Had to upgrade to windows 10 due to school, any anons know how to to stop Microsoft edge from eating all my resources? Pretty sure it has no cap on how much cpu and ram it will chow on.

what

Fucking this

nice b8 m8
EA is literally the devil

Programs made for the "latest and greatest OS". Mostly to do with videos and programming, that and the upgrade was required for the class.

One thing that image doesn't cover is how lightweight krita is. Gimp can take at least 40 seconds to load while krita is consistently under 10, all on my shitty old hard drive.

you re comparing apples and oranges

I wish Sony would develop their own computer OS and save us all from Microsoft's tyranny.

Gabe Newell used to work for Microsoft.

how dare you disagree with me

you must be one of THEM

Linux is a mess.

Nice try, steambecile. EA was actually pretty great lately.

Steam and Origin are pretty much the same thing.

Valve take a 30% cut of the sales of games on Steam, EA didn't like that so they made their own client. Ubisoft, Microsoft and Blizzard also do this.

Technically speaking, if you've disabled updates then you've already terminated that support

I program and nothing I use requires Windows 10.
Literally every single editor, engine, compiler or whatever works for everything. Same for video editing.

I think you got duped into a shitty school user

Get the fuck out

You haven't forgot what they've done in the past, have you?

I really wish Linux was more viable. It can be so comfy.

2014 was when Early Access started flooding the market and back then there were no refunds. If anything there should be a 2015 version with a Gabe edit of the flustered merchant because Steam only implemented refunds because the EU courts demanded it.

It was literally "implement a refund policy or you will no longer be allowed to sell shit in the EU". Even then, they only offer the absolute minimum required by law.

And then the 2016 should be Gabe depressed for having to shut down gambling sites and potentially killing a lot of money from the csgo cosmetics

Windows is a meme. It will never become a serious OS. It's forever destined to be the choice of all the retarded normalfags to play their shitty triple ayy games on. Deal with it.

It's as user friendly as it gets. Problem is, you're not a user. You're a retard, and you want your OS to be retard friendly. Buy a console next time.

I'm not sure if you're baiting or being serious
I've seen linuxfags as dumb as this before so I'm kind of on the fence here

I don't even use Linux anymore. There are better kernels out there.

Like what?
Please don't say *bsd

Not just any BSD, OpenBSD specifically.

have you seen latest steam survey? like 80% of people are on w10 already

t. freebsdgirl

lol no

Companies patent insane shit all the time, it doesn't mean they'll ever use it.
Some guy patented a flying saucer years ago.

But what if Sony slowly inserted ads in their OS one day and slowly they start moving into commercials you have to hit a button to skip. Then finally you have to jump up and yell the product name. And You couldn't roll it back.

Why trust them? They went so far to patent it. They can use it at any time they want.

No. Linux is a mess. I think they would probably have released their games if it wasn't such a massive pile of shit to release on and support after the sale.

It's not so much an issue of the market not being there. It's that releasing and bug fixing on Linux if a joke. Also Linux is actively being destroyed from the inside out by well-meaning idiots and hostile insiders. Pulse Audio, Network Manager, Systemd, Gnome, Wayland, etc.

I got your back, Jack.