Went back to Grim Dawn after a long break to resume on my Rioter build. My blackwater cocktails are absolutely a beast now after I gotten fissure since my molotovs now not only deal fire and chaos damage, they also burn like a bitch and have a good chance to summon volcanos that have a chance to stun enemies, which makes them stuck on the floor that is now lava even longer.
So Holla Forums, what builds are you running, what's the crazy shit you have been getting yourself into and is anyone still making Ebola-chan?
I have this installed. The combat is very unsatisfying. Skills are boring.
Caleb Roberts
How so though? Grim Dawn isn't exactly shoddy for an ARPG and I don't think people have been making much decent ARPGs across the years.
You still playing Lords of Destruction user?
Jaxon Taylor
Hey, I was OP of last GD+ARPG thread, I'm enjoying it quite a bit, played about 200 levels worth in a couple weeks but haven't finished it yet with any of my characters. So many strong possibilities so everything has been quite enjoyable.
So far my lv40 battlemage seems to be my favorite, god dam beast that guy is.
Hunter Ross
Indeed, so far I have 1 thunder warder (pure shaman caster), 1 ebola-chan (pure occultist caster with a focus in enraging bloody pox and movement speed to get out of the way of the confused and enraged enemies), 1 rioter-chan (same build as OP) and 1 plagueguard (witchblade with a focus in tanking while dishing poison damage and acid retaliation).
All are at level 40 or reaching there and all of them are now superb killing machines.
Juan Carter
Doom Bolt is… not as amazing as I first thought.
Oliver Green
The long cooldown of 8 second kills it as a pure build skill. However if you ever pick up an item that procs doombolt on attacks, it's godly. Especially your build focused on quick multihits.
Sebastian Ortiz
I heard this was done by the Titan Quest devs. This true? I love TQ one of my all time favs. How does this compare?
Nathan Brooks
Fixed up better grimdark TQ in my opinion.
Nathan Perez
Sword and board commando that explodes. Also flash bang is the best skill.
Leo Roberts
I'm on my first playthrough at the Stairs of Torment. Why the fuck is it so hard? I've died twice and it fucking sucks having to farm for blood. Not to mention it costs 10k to make a skeleton key.
Nicholas Hughes
I don't know why this is an issue for me, but I wish Grim Dawn maps weren't premade and instead all generated. I know generated content sucks and premade content is made with love and all that shit, but there's just this autism in me that was probably due to Diablo 1-2 that has me wanting ARPGs be made with all generated maps
Nicholas Mitchell
It caps at level 50, just fuck off and come back later.
You know, I hear this all the time, but I don't think I've ever played an ARPG with super fun skills. Ever. Not even Diablo 2 was that crazy.
Michael Lopez
what is your class-combo? 10k isn't that hard to farm at that point– it's about where i am too
have you tried the arcanist magic missile at level 1, that shit is tight (lol)
Tyler Sullivan
You mean the one that splits into 3 more magic missles? Hell yeah, motherfucker.
Brandon Ramirez
I'm Demolitionist and Occultist.
Luke Lee
Anyone have a download link for Diablo 2 vanilla + LoD 1.07? I want to play version 1.09d - the one before synergies fucked every build up - but I can't find any torrents that aren't 1.12 and the Blizzard site only offers 1.12 as well.
Gavin Young
Any anime styled ARPGs out there? Not Ys or Shining games, but actual diablo clones? Alternatively any sci-fi ones that isn't Hellgate or Space Siege?
Samuel Clark
Get D2SE Mod Manager, it should come with all of the patches so you can play any version you want without committing.
Gabriel Ward
Soma Bringer
Elijah Anderson
Ya I tried that. Installed the 1.13 patch, which is supposedly the last patch that works with D2SE. Still doesn't let me launch the older versions though. I read the thread on the snej? forum about the issue and nothing in the thread helped me.
Elijah Davis
As long as the game is still vanilla, you could always try manually taking the 1.07 patch out of there and slapping it into the D2 folder, since those folders are just the files it replaces when it launches.
Tyler Ramirez
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Juan Long
Is there a arpg that involves more than just hit and run? I also want a better version of hellgate, i liked that game
Adam Jackson
Been playing a Druid all freeze and lightning damage, still need to get to the final difficulty but I think I'm going to need a bit more of hp that I currently have. Also I need to decide on weapon and endgame armor any recomendations? Has a side note Olexra's Flash Freeze working on bosses when?
Ian Reed
I dunno what's going on, but it looks rather stormy.
Bentley Evans
Nice dubs there Carlos Also yeah scaling frostburn and electrocute damage it's pretty neat I actually swapped around some devotions and now get some more consistent and high dps now
Robert Ross
smh tbh oni fam
Daniel Gray
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Hunter Butler
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Noah Cox
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John Collins
If you got some green chitin chest armor to drop you were set for like 75% of the game, shit was OP as fuck
Cameron Cooper
Game lags to unplayable when I go to Hades.
Tyler Morris
I've made a dozen characters since the game came out have and never gotten that far.
Titan Quest is the slowest, clunkiest piece of shit
Camden Gray
It is, admittedly, not as tight as it could be.
Jason Parker
poe still best
Aiden Ross
Honestly I never played TQ mods I finished it a couple of times (granted this was some time ago) maybe later I'll check that mod
It's clunky has shit, but it's fun user :^)
PoE its pretty fun yes, but the leagues die 2 months in and it gets boring without making bank by selling uber labyrinth runs
Colton Brooks
I highly recommend it. Some of the bigger enemies drop souls, which grant you really, really good abilities and enhance your stats when you bind them to something. I remember getting a skeleton's soul at one point, and I had this really strong skeleton that followed me all the time, and it also enhanced my vitality resistances and intelligence by a lot or something. This is on top of relics, of course. Really powerful stuff.
Hudson Carter
I must say to this day LoD still has the best skills. Especially summon skeletons. GD summoners are appalling compared to LoD summoners.
Doesn't help that the entire combat system is as clunky as an unsynchronized gearbox on a 30s diesel
Angel Edwards
I'm playing as a Conjurer. I'll post my build later, but having a few points in Doom Bolt helps pets. I've only died once to Conflagration because I'm stupid when it comes to walking into Aether.
It's useful when pets come across some tight mobs. I have 5-6 point in it.
Jayden Richardson
I'm playing a Dream/Spirit build, and I noticed something interesting. My Dream Strike, currently, adds +78% total damage to every third attack, while increasing any life or energy leeching effects that I have on them. At the same time, my Bone Spire ability, which shoots a shitload of bones in a line, is also a weapon attack that leeches energy and does vitality damage, despite it being on a long cooldown.
Nathaniel Barnes
I tried to like PoE, but I just can't forgive the following: -You have to buy your level ups after 80 or 90. -Acts 3 and 4 are horrible. -Most builds aren't fun, and making a build on your own sucks (I played a Summoner Witch someone here suggested me. It was the only build I liked). -Some leagues just suck (Perandus). -Crafting or looking for any kind of gear and crafting materials are fucking terrible things to do.
I loved how the Witch was a bitch to everybody around her. She was the only class I liked.
Lincoln Thompson
GD's skills just fucking suck and there's too little variety, that's what kills the game for me. Having to waste most of your skill points on pointless +STATS class levels to even unlock skills means your entire build is nothing but one of the two useful skills your class has and a shitload of passives.
Jeremiah Hernandez
Have you guys tried to the Grim Dawn modding tools yet? How much of the game can be modded so far?
It would be neat to make a mod where all the classes are based on different magic skills (Summoning, 'Mancing, Elemental, etc.)
Andrew Young
PoE did some things right, it's a good game if you are willing to look past the flaws but they're big enough to outright kill it for you.
Oliver Rivera
I'm about to try TQ with Soulvizier. Last three times I just got bored after the first few hours of TQ, perhaps this time I'll get further.
Adrian Miller
A lot of the uniques are build defining, but finding uniques outside of maps is near impossible. And farming maps with a non cookie-cutter build is a huge PITA. PoE has a ton of gameplay flaws (some major) and very little "good" gameplay parts to offset the flaws.
Alexander Wilson
I guess what I like about Grim Dawn is that you can be more of a dick head than a hero even though you can't go all out evil in the game.
You know what would make a neat Arpg? One where you get to be the monster/villain, and you build your character like a Champion/Unique monster in games like Diablo.
Yet 90% of the builds can't even see all of the content.
I wouldn't say PoE gave you a lot of freedom to build your character.
I tried a summoner build in TQ, and it was worse than Grim Dawn's. Did the expansion make pets any better?
Easton Sanchez
It's almost like you have to balance you damage output and your health and defences
Hudson Nguyen
I think I still have it installed so maybe I'll check it later that concept sounds pretty fun
honestly I consider most of my builds done by 85 max anything further is just linear power progression yes on act 3 I personally enjoy act 4 but ok Question, do you play play softcore or hardcore? with PoE I have come to despise hardcore (besides latency issues) hardcore in PoE is just stack life life life, I love scrubcore and and just going to maximum dps and framerate drops I'm capable of doing, like using facebreakers and exploding the entire screen with one punch and die instantly to reflect the amount of broken skills that the game got with ascendancy is just hilarious I like it but sure I can see it just not being your thing I honestly never bothered with crafting, re-leveling masters and getting the dosh to craft some good items is just too much of a pain in the ass to me, so yeah
Zachary Anderson
Now that I think about it, it's ripped right from Aria of Sorrow, isn't it?
Bentley Ross
You have clearly never played Hardcore back in the day where you had to spend pretty much every single point to get enough health to survive. They fixed it somewhat later, but shit was BAD.
James Russell
I played Scrubcore. I tried to get into Hardcore Modes in games like Diablo 3, but HC isn't my thing. Summoner/Pet or range builds are the only ways I play Arpgs unless I can make something zany like a build based on Crissaegrim/Valamanway from Castlevania (I did this with a Diablo 3 Wizard and Cold spells. It was really fun until Wyatt Cheng and Blizzard decided to remove fun from Diablo 3 with mandated builds).
I hated Perandus because sometimes you had some bullshit mobs placed in the worst spots. To add insult to injury, the rewards you got from the guy were trash.
Jacob Hall
This game has a really awesome ost and world environment. I love how despite the towns and gang hideouts are shit-holes, you can see nature sort of take its course when the aether aren't fucking things up.
I kinda wish you could side with the Aether and evil factions like Crowley.
Dylan Ortiz
Oh shit, you're right
Same here I never really liked HC in arpgs And yeah perandus had some real issues with the mobs but I found that the actual mechanics of the league where pretty neat (unlike prophecy which I found pretty boring) getting some GG uniques, in my case voltaxic rift and a lightning coil for a few thousand coins was just too awesome, that was the first league that I actually got over 90 in a character, granted getting those uniques was completely RNG dependent but come on If anything just follow a build and learn the game from there I had some issues with PoE originally, hell I still have some fucking problems with the way the devs balance some things, but you can get fun out this game very easily gl user
Nolan Nelson
GD doesnt have the summon scale of LoD but I am playing a summoner and i don't find me having to kite a lot (with the exception of bosses but LoD bosses would had wrecked your skeles anyway). Upgraded treedog has an active taunt and aoe stun that werks and upgraded firedog has bigger aggro i thought. Besides the pets you listed there's still possible two timed summoned guardians who can active taunt if you have two marrrow rings (low level epic item) and you have the necromancy devotion skill that raises dead enemies iirc. Don't underestimate poison shooting prawn because its dps is pretty crazy. There's also the sword the guy in the cult cave at burrwitch outskirt that summons a chtonic guardian. IIRC there is a few more summoner epic and legendary gears that boost pet stats to crazy and skills like bonds of bysmael and the shaman version of it are all worth it and needed. Berd is shit
Joseph Morales
It's not that the fire dog has no aggro, it's just the way the game handles it Players ALWAYS have priority over pets if they even interact with the target with curses, so if you were going Summoner doing absolutely anything but standing still meant the enemies would all just go after your ass 24/7 and there was nothing you could do about it but run. Threat mechanics were extremely basic. This was pre-Devotion so I don't know if it was fixed.
Nolan Gonzalez
Also the manticore is freaking powerful even if it is a timed summon
Hudson Sanders
I'm just waiting on Act 5 to pop up before I pick it up again. Cold Witch might be something I might mess around with too.
Jacob Ortiz
Grasping vines or something that deals confusion should clear that up. That's how i'm killing mobs with my rioter. Just 1 flashbang and 1 molotov at a doorway and everything inside it dies
Lucas Collins
Got a link with the build user I have been wanting to play a pet build in GD for a while now but I have no idea how to summoners and pets builds have never been my thing
Easton Nelson
Work on Crow, Hound, and Briarthorn. Crow will be your damage dealer while hound and thorn will be the tanks. Max out any pet aura you can grab, but put 1 point in other pet abilities. Get Doom Bolt because you need to help them once in a while.
As for devotions, get a mix of attack and defense/health/resistance stuff for pets. You want them to take beatings.
I'll try to post some screen shots of my build when I get the chance.
Benjamin Sanchez
Dont focus on crow until later.
Do this one for lazy summoner. You probably need to adjust for version difference.
Adam Mitchell
I played back in beta when you had to pay to get access I know what it was like back then, with all the invisible projectiles and spell effects, rangers and spellcasters that killed you from offscreen, desynced turbo stun roahs etc you still had to balance your offence so that you could kill shit faster than it killed you so you didn't spend for fucking ever standing still giving the mobs an opportunity to hit you with their shit
also yo can use grimcalc.com/ I think that it's up to date
I'll check that build, thanks a lot anons
Eli Evans
Forgot to add gear with pets stats will always be a priority.
Leveling Crow in the beginning until you get Hound and Briar
Random everything also pissed me off when I played PoE. I'm fine that maps are random when I start new games, but ffs don't change the fucking map on me when I enter or leave a cave. That shit is retarded because in real life your workplace isn't going to randomly place itself in different part of the town every 30 fucking minutes.
Tear it apart, so I can suck less. The devotion thing isn't listing pet stuff, so I did nothing with the devotions.
Nolan Diaz
Meant to say leveling Crow until you get better pets makes the game a little easier. That fucker zaps shit.
Nolan Gray
except the crow has a completely shit dps and you'll do better with a gun. Better you start with shaman, put 1 point in mastery, 1 in grasping vines and 16 in briarthorn and sit back and watch it one shot everything
Daniel Green
Meant to say 10 points in shaman mastery. Basically your first 10 levels will be for making your first pet completely future proofed for act 2
Lucas Nguyen
Mate what are you doing maxing out crow and abandoning the freaking chimera?
Bentley Moore
Because I want pets that will stay in the battle for more than 30 seconds. and don't have long cool downs. I'll consider getting a point or two, since I could use an "in case of big pack, press this button" spell.
Anthony Sullivan
WHERE THE FUCK IS THE NECROMANCER EXPANSION?
Benjamin Brown
I burned out of PoE.
Could this satisfy my desire to play a good ARPG ?
Owen Gomez
That's assuming your bird even contributes more than a 50% uptime teleporting manticore
Brandon Hall
On my first play through and I decided to go with an occultist and spam my skills into dreeg's evil eye and all its synergies, even that shitty point that gives the ability a cooldown. What should I go for next, should I focus on making my raven really strong?
Anthony Perez
Give them more money (which I'll gladly do).
Don't expect too much, and you might like it. Try to get it on sale if you can.
Here's a build without counting in skill level bonuses from gear, so it should max out most of the skills chosen. This is pure armchair general. No shitty bird allowed.
Elijah Davis
For what it's worth, I feel like mentioning that the Spirit tree in Soulvizier has 4 summons plus a totem, in addition to your standard necromancer curse. The Nature tree has a wolf you can summon (that increases to a pack), short-lived sprites you summon and throw at enemies, nymphs, and a "force of nature", plus your pet buffs and healing. I grabbed this off the mod page, so don't ask me what this guy's build is.
Ethan Powell
You still need to max out curse of frailty lad. You only need 1 level of creeping vine for the slow debuff and the rest should go into curse or body of dreeg, which heals up pets when they get hit so it's flipping awesome.
Let's get real here motherfuckers, we need actual animoo ARPG that isn't console or handheld piece of shit, and there isn't one for whatever fucking reason. What do?
Jeremiah Johnson
Fucking finally multithreading in PoE, what a a time to be alive
Also have fresh webum of my druid in the necropolis, I'll probably get to ultimate before re-rolling for a pet build
Camden Carter
literally nothing is wrong with handhelds
Ian Williams
They're lewd
John Watson
I can't play this piece of shit because my cursor doesn't appear, I'm on a laptop and have to turn off scaling from 4k to play this game and then everything looks ugly. Can't wait for zen to come out.
Jordan Williams
Nigger they scale up to 4k already? I'm still stuck with a dvi cable.
Jack Taylor
stop being poor bruv. :^) Jokes aside the 4k scaling is a joke a r 270M can't handle shit, sometimes even videos cause the thing to heat up. Fuck laptops.
Nathaniel Lee
necromancers and paladins are done to fucking death in rpgs, i saw this same comment in the last thread so I just want to say, I think the class system is good now and much more robust than diablo is.
speaking of which, the other complaint I hear about GD is that the player's equipment is not as interesting as D, but let's face it they don't let you pick genders and have less class choices so everything is customized much more easily.
I gamed on a labtops for years, I was always 2 steps behind desktops no matter what.
Charles White
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Leo Fisher
Yeah that's why I am waiting for zen and 1080ti or whatever that can run witcher 3 4k60fps maxed out to come out.
Angel Jones
In my game, I have several guys from lv40-20 and I have found 6 epic books and only have 1 book user, everything I have found hardly anything of.
Daniel Martin
Epics are kind of weak compared to legendary though. Most legendaries come with some skill that makes you drool all over your keyboard in a futile attempt to try to form a build around the item instead of the other way around.
Pic for example of weaker legendaries.
Blake Myers
Do you get a lot of guys who give themselves bullshit stats when you host online games?
Camden Turner
I have like three item transfer grids filled with legendaries, having dismantled doubles
I just can't throw them away, even though Im probably never gonna bother getting another char to 70+
the fucking time it took me before I realised you could unlock additional item transfer space
Christian Edwards
Make sure you leave 2 copies of legendary or epic 1h weapons that have +1 to job skills or spammable skills (pretty sure if you have two procs of skills, they proc seperately and generate seperate DoT slots. You probably have to check with a devotion skill to confirm) A dual wielding demo with two hand cannon epics for example already has +2 to all demo skills. And that's at lvl 16.
Juan Davis
Is this toaster friendly?
Also.
How do I fix this.
Jeremiah White
There's a fix posted somewhere. One of the first results on google has you fix the compatibility + other settings and run some program to fix the issue. Haven't tried it myself, though.
Easton Perez
Just no, it's really a sub par playing experience.
Daniel Phillips
>tfw my first character after installing a new ARPG is always some big cunt with lots of auras and passive effects who hits SUPER hard every now and again
Josiah Allen
user, be like me and go rioter. It's all based on indirect damage. Direct damage contribution is optional and you get to toss shit into a room and leave while mobs inside die.
Here's the build sans an optional secondary class at lvl 42. Your molotovs gets freaking awesome after you have enough points to unlock the mage devotion skill (a fissure that spews hot rocks at everyone). Getting solael's witchfire for your flashbang is optional, but do get behemoth's healing power for vindicative flame.
GD has the tendency to punish passive hard hitters if you don't have the hp or healing power to cope.
Jaxon Murphy
I'm not playing GD, user
Hudson Ward
How the fuck can you make a game in a setting so interesting so soulcrushingly boring? Why did the devs think fighting the same few enemies who do exactly the same things for 10+ hours would be fun? The skills are downright insultingly bland. We will never have anything that comes close to LoD again.
Dylan Nelson
I never said they dropped all the time. I just got my first one and I'm past Medusa and her sisters.
Connor Bailey
Whats the economy for this game like ?
Is there a trade system, like with other players, or is it strictly just NPCs and drops ?
Really wish there was a try before you buy
Jose Hill
Its such a shame they fucked up the start of the game, titan quest is one of my favourite ARPGs but the start kills it
Jonathan Lopez
When would you say it really starts picking up? Personally, I think it's Delphi.
Zachary Robinson
Anyone here playing dual wielding pistols? They any good?
Xavier Bell
I kinda liked the game BUT when i played it through i could see that i can never replay it with another class than going full on Warfare and that other talent tree which i forgot with spears because RUNNING FUCKING SPEED!
Ancient Greek mythology really needs to be more prevalent in games, all this shit about dragons and "Muh edgy and dark" needs to fuck off.
Ayden Hughes
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Ethan Butler
I rather have one more like titan quest where you have greeko-romans-ancient Egyptian, then meeting nordic/saxons followed by meeting ancient chinks, then medieval Japanese (because their tech level pre-matchlock was basically ancient chinks) then medieval Europe and finally ending at the gothic plate age with rudimentary firearms and handcannons for ranged characters appearing.
The dream ARPG would have the gear progress alongside your setting, with warriors starting with lamellar and bronze cuirass ending wih gothic plates, light armor starts with linothorax and ending with 16th century guard wear and fancy hats and caster armor starts with priestly tunics and ceremonial armor (for heavy casters) and ending with ornate priestly robes or catholic looking ceremonial armor.
Carson Cruz
Probably make it lower fantasy, but with the character as an ageless immortal (but not invincible) and have him thrust into the ages of men fighting off the illuminati or whoever is currently (at that golden age of those historical empires) planning another doomsday. All enemies being human of various station, military experience for once instead of demons and monsters.
Carter Young
I think i had exactly that, i cant remember for sure but somewhere around 125-130 atleast.
Robert Harris
You're not even killing demons? You're just some eternal warrior wandering from battle to battle, killing people to get stronger? I'd be okay with that, you don't even need any Illuminati stuff. That's a thin enough pretense to base a game off of.
Cameron Nguyen
Yeah exactly or atleast the design based completely on one of those instead of this bland Tolkien shit every fucking game sometimes with just extra bit of edge from spiky dark armour and zombies without sun.
William Long
Just some crazy bastard wandering battlefield to battlefield of whenever the fighting is the thickest historically cucking up some monarch day JUST because?
That actually sounds better than trying to Illuminati someone.
Brody Turner
I'm Dream/Spirit and I run fast. But, admittedly, I just have really nice leggings.
It's not like anybody who plays those sorts of games gives the slightest fuck about the story at all anyway.
Julian White
Have you played Two Worlds 2? It's not exactly what you want BUT i remember it having quite neat locations atleast with the second area being all Medieval Jap/Chink though i cant remember what the 3rd area was at all.
First zone wasnt that bad either, sort of like African Safari but without niggers and with European architecture.
Samuel Mitchell
Two Worlds 2 sucked dick.
Connor Hernandez
I'm still waiting for an arpg here you're the monster or bad guy for once, and you build your character like an unique monster in the Diablo games.
David Cooper
Not as much as you're mom does. :^)
Gabriel Richardson
I should have seen that reply coming. Really though, Two Worlds 2 is horrible (the first one is the best one).
Carter Anderson
Now you are just trolling
Connor Peterson
Or I just love shitty games that have some kind of charm (I never said I had good taste in shit). The first one was kinds of broken bullshit, but I loved every god damn bit of Two Worlds 1.
David Gray
Hey that could work with the ageless immortal asshole setting. Just you cucking up everyone's shit along the way as humanity advances through the ages.
I did but two worlds is still guilty for fantasy more than anything else.
Parker Moore
The next Path of Exile expansion is apparently going to be named "Atlas of Worlds" It might have something to do with the map system, or maybe some other alternative endgame, I recall reading maps were only a temporary endgame. I just want them to remove cruel, I hate having to go through the campaign 3 times to get to the good stuff.
Robert Lewis
This. I thought when they initially launched Act 4 the plan was to remove Cruel. .
Also having to buy things to complete a build were always the drawbacks to getting into/back into PoE for me.
And yet, I found it fun to try and amass wealth in the game by selling things through the trade system.
William Wright
Using maps for end game was probably the solution for D2's boss farming tactics of switching it off and on again.
Jonathan Brooks
Also I tried out what summoner user was complaining about aggro with my outdated pet build and found that I had no problems with aggro. I shifted my build towards grasping vines and curse of frailty, stood away from the enemy and popped them while using pet attack on left mouse button to point out priority targets. Still pretty comfy. The only improvement I made with the build was that I put 1 point in wendigo totem and 1 point in the hit for healing skill and my pets were healing up faster than the bird could had ever managed.
Bird still a shit. Though I need to reroll my summoner because stats are all over the place.
Aiden Reyes
rendering a webm of my lvl 64 gunslinging sorceress trying out magi devotion fissure proc on firestrike but I'm not very impressed by it so far, usually running with meteor shower in the webm I'm just throwing canister bomb on the pack and then blasting them to shit with firestrike, or at least I should be opening up with canister bomb haven't played on this character since the release so I play like I'm retarded and I died on the pack after the last one in the webm
Jeremiah James
I maxed a dual pistol Pyromancer.
Hellfire fun for days, but glass cannon as fuck.
Lucas Baker
I am running a dual pistol molotov/flashbang build on magi devotion and passive fireball procs from eyes of flame epic helm and I am very impressed by it because the nature of molotovs ensures there's a fissure proc every 1.5 seconds and the burn damage from fissure aids my molotov significantly. Currently looking for another devotion skill for my flashbang to use (not sure if on attack procs will work with flashbang) and I'm getting behemoth for vindicative flame.
After reading up on changelogs, here's the summoner build I would do in this version once I get time to reroll my current summoner.
Note that gear should allow for more point balancing since there's no skill that needs more than max level. Excess skills should go towards maxing oak skin for maximum enemy butthurt.
Molotov build I am working towards. Gear bonuses should allow me to max out inner focus and drop at least 1 point in nullification.
What cha think? Currently, I don't even need to fight mobs directly and heroes basically burn to death within 10 seconds if I go full retard with spamming molotovs and flashbangs.
David Hall
That's funny because I made a tank build for MP, tons of regen but cant do any damage.
Alexander Lewis
I made a tank build as well but I focused on retaliation damage instead, overguard and counterstrike and blood of dreeg. Worked pretty well.
Daniel Gutierrez
I chose a Soldier/Pyromancer combo, I'm immune to piercing and fire pretty much. I'd probably have more retaliation if I leveled more but regen is more important right now.
Eli Jones
here's the webm and my skills
Jonathan Brown
Even if you are ranged you are going to need way more HP than that
Also one of the things that I like about GD is how even you DoTs proc effects which can proc other effects, it's very satisfying to see all the screen erupt with attackts
Jackson Lopez
yeah, I die if I stand still or get stunned or get hit by a boss don't rely know how to fix that without pumping all points I get into physique or find new gear with physique and health
Luis Morales
I don't really think you need 12 levels of elemental exchange at all. Your build barely runs dry of energy as it is. I'll rather put 12 levels into overload (85% elemental damage, tons of DOT) and elemental balance for more crit damage.
You definitely don't need to overlevel tempered or flame-touched. You definitely need some points in vindicative flame for health regen and overall speed bonus. Consider investing some in flashbangs (more in searing light to slow down mobs).
Most skills shouldn't be overlevelled unless they have better benefits or your damage output relies completely upon said skill (like my molotov gunslinger).
Here's what I would had done with your build and gear.
Eli Miller
You already maxed out maivens sphere Get Olexa's flash freeze for an extra layer of defense (level 9 is more than enough to freeze the entire screen excluding named bosses) Don't undestimate the value of mirror of ereoctes and put some extra levels there it can even functions to boost you dps against bosses by reflecting the nastier attacks
Christian Cooper
Having just been done with Torchlight 2 and loving it to pieces, is Grim Dawn similar/just as good at T2?
is there a similar ARPG with cute girls?
Nathan Evans
T2 is considered to be pretty low on the totem pole by Holla Forums, so GD should be fun for you to play with.
William Johnson
*You don't actually need tempered. Flametouched is good enough at 12.
Carson Thompson
For me Torchlight 2 vanilla was good enough, synergies mod is what actually added a lot of value/fun for me
I wish, someone suggested one previously in the thread but it a was a handheld title, got nothing against handhelds but playing an arpg in any console it's cancer
Chase Price
I think GD > T2 but I value the more gritty graphics a lot over the cartoonish T2 look, I also think the class system and gear and areas are just much better.
Hudson Cruz
dropping temper for vindictive flame and keeping Iskandra´s elemental exchange at 12/12 netted me the most raw sheet DPS at 15787 over 15634 with Elemental Exchange at 4 and overload at 8 with 16/16 vindictive flame I have the Deviltongue pistol which give +1 to all demolitionist skills and a medalion with +3 to temper and +2 to flame touched I also have no pants
I have to drop something for that and as it is now I kill most shit before it can touch me unless it's a boss
Oliver Diaz
Raw dps means nothing when you're not attacking all the time. Even more useless when you are kiting. DoT means you are still doing damage when you're relocating. And of course having more focus on DoT means you have less raw damage. As you were you probably only had gear geared for dealing direct damage instead of DoT
Dominic Stewart
most likely, haven't touched this character since 1 or 2 weeks after release as I mentioned earlier I usually just kite until canister bomb is off cooldown if I'm in trouble so I can stand still for a few and unload
Jaxson Perez
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Levi Bailey
That's you need lvl 1 flashbang and maxed searing light. Chance to confuse comes a long way when confused mobs help you draw aggro away from you and searing light has assured slow and chance to disarm mobs.
Lucas Russell
Oh and imo your focus should be on getting skills that allow you to be able to spend more time firing (from a distance) instead of running around kiting since your substaimed dps looks fine
Ethan Gray
Can I get some feedback on this build? I'm not that experienced with arpgs and was wondering if this is viable for higher difficulties.
Not worth it unless you're either investing in vit damage % (which your build will not) or a summoner
Don't need that. The passives on the shaman side are much better for savagery purposes.
Don't really need that for a savagery build. Your aim is to life steal without expending energy while hitting people with a combination of physical lightning and bleeding damage.
Take that shit. You'll be critting at high savagery nearly all the time and this turns it into a 100% AoE skill with 25% chance of lifestealing from 5 unlucky bastards.
Put a level in it even if my build thingo doesn't have a point in it. 100% taunt is how you'll be maintaining your level of savagery.
The bonus given for an extra 11 skill points is worth about as much as a good item. Not worth it. And since you're not a tank, that armor % will not help you much in the long run.
Left blank due to lack of excess points that you'll probably generate from + shaman skill level item bonuses. If I were to fill in the blanks, the build would be 37 skill points short of maxing, which isn't hard to generate since you have 11 skill slots in shaman, so if you have gear granting +2 to all shaman skills, you'll already have 33 skill points generated. This bonus isn't hard to get since there's a shitload of + all shaman skill gear. Remember to not overlevel something unless the bonuses are actually good or it's the skill you're absolutely reliant on. Delevel skills that gain a bonus to the written limit so you have more skill points to go around with.
Jason Myers
*If you have gear granting +3 to all shaman skills.
Nicholas Gray
It's kinda sad that Marvel Heroes is the best ARPG currently on the market
Zachary Perry
Forgot to explain why you need to max modrogen's pact. It'll take up about 40% of your energy bar when activated, but it'll in turn give you godly amounts of health regen and as much energy regen as a middle tier caster. Oak skin is optional, but the 100 armor and 100% extra retaliation damage it adds can be pretty good depending on your gear. Level or delevel at will to free up skill points. You absolutely must max heart of the wild because it effectively cuts down all DoT damage by 25% by cutting down the uptime of poison and bleeding effects. This coupled with decorated soldier ensures that you spend more time kicking ass and less time kiting and downing potions.
You should also probably put at least one point in blitz unless you have another way of quickly entering fights (like chaos strike for chaos damage based fighters).
As for devotions, aim for stuff that gives you on attack % activation with stun effects.
Jeremiah Hughes
Thanks very much.
One question though, am I unnecessarily paranoid about not being able to survive on higher difficulties, or will I be fine if I go with something along the lines of what you presented?
Grayson Sanchez
Like all ARPGs, it depends on how good your fight or flight instincts are. I have builds that are unplayable for other people because I know exactly when I need to bugger out. People who are good at glass cannon builds tend to be like this.
This savagery build is a partial glass cannon build. You have the means to refill your health quickly, but you have to make sure whatever is hitting you isn't outdamaging your natural regen + lifesteal
Blake Peterson
Fair enough, and again thanks. Really appreciate the feedback.
Carter Scott
Late to the party, but emulate Glide with the wrapper and it'll run smooth as a babe's butt. I set it up some days ago and fiddled with the settings, works fine. svenswrapper.de/english/
Parker Lee
Man, Sorcerer gunslingers sure have it tough.
My Pyromancer curses, slows, stuns and vaporizes the hordes before they even have a chance to get close, and even if they're ranged, I can just stand in place and keep shooting them because my lifesteal gets me back to full health in a mere second or two. grimcalc.com/build/eOHcYrf
Ian Hughes
Just sayin man I like glass cannons like any other man but you gotta find balance
Leo Nelson
I realized that Sigil of Consumption is obsolete due to the Ghoul and Revenant(the 1 point on it, anyway) constellations and redistributed its skill points between Hellfire Mine(max), Flame Touched(Max) and Blast Shield(the last 1 point).
No impact on my survivability and my fissure mines are fucking nuts now.
Josiah Murphy
Do skills like Elemental Exchange and Flame Touched boost damage from spells like Sky Shard and Flash Freeze? Would really like to know for my Sky Shard build.
Jaxson Long
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Camden Phillips
If you are referring to +% elemental/lightning damage buffs from those skills, yes they do.
Isaac Williams
You should never go sigil unless you are pumping + vit% damage. The returns from healing is too little compared to popping a lvl 1 wendigo totem for example.
The true weakness of glass cannon build is bosses that spam bloody pox i find. True to ebola-chan's name, it can very well drop you if you are not paying attention
Andrew Watson
Presenting to you the: I take no damage and deal no damage build
pros: you can run past all the mobs in any dungeon and just hit the boss no problem even in ultimate
cons: if the boss doesnt autohit often it takes jsut as long to kil him than it would to clear the dungeon
you can literally AFK farm the hivequeen by standing in front of her while taking a shit or making something to eat, making it very easy to farm legendarys on her.
Ryder Allen
Also i forgot to say I can facetank nemesis bosses, i'll mostly do it when playing with friends and they'll jsut go glasscannon while i have aggro on pretty much all the enemies and just stand in front of any missile.
Michael Cruz
I can't open your mp4, for some reason.
Samuel Barnes
it takes a while to load
Colton Hall
Oh, also, why did you put all the points into the Shaman tree if you weren't going to bother with the last 3 tiers? Couldn't you have used those to beef up some of your Soldier skills, or were the extra stats more important?
Leo Phillips
This was originally my Bleed Build i jsut converted it to Tank, you could put some points into more beef/dmg yes but it probably only makes a minor difference.
Eli Miller
The best arpg is dungeon siege 2, prove me wrong
Xavier Wood
Dungeon Siege 1 is undisputed champion
Eli Watson
mods fix that
Nathan Barnes
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Gavin Ross
Its hardly a maze at all
Jacob Anderson
Tested it out on grim calc. It comes back at about 600 raw health difference.
Landon Scott
It's not like enemies respawn, either, but still.
Brandon Ortiz
That's actually kinda hilarious, good job
Colton James
Decided to pirate it. Try before I buy.
Liking what I'm seeing so far, looks to be a good deal of depth for making different builds. That was what made me like PoE so much, you can make a build around just about any skill in the game. Granted not every skill could get you into super elite content but the majority of skills could get you into Maps and get you bank rolled.
Liam Barnes
Any aRPG that doesn't accomplish this is generally trash Like what would be the point in playing an multiplayer aRPG if the builds at the end are all the same? Its the reason i hated wow and its the reason i hated diablo 3 That and builds that build around items, Only 3 games I've played that have actually accomplished this are; Diablo 2, PoE and grimdawn,
God i fucking hate Engima Druid speced hurricane, Only Time I've actually killed one with a melee character was by barbarian frenzy with a fuck ton of life steal, managed to move fast enough and strike him a few times before the damage ticks from the hurricane set in Couldn't even accomplish it with my assassin (burst of speed + viper strike)
Nathan Miller
To be fair D2 was never meant to be a PVP game.
Adrian Parker
Which made it all the more fun except for fucking FotH Paladins, fuck those guys Only way i could kill them was with a trapassin and even then it was mostly luck
Nathan Gray
I'm genuinely surprised that more games in this genre don't have some sort of multiplayer arena mode or something. You could have your horde survival co-op and your competitive battling all in one location.
Leo Sullivan
Never played this game but I've been on the verge of giving it a go for about 6 months. It looks really fun, but I have some questions
Hunter Roberts
No, it's extremely easy to pick up. About the bare minimum for an ARPG, but it isn't a bloated piece like TQ was
Yes.
Alexander Murphy
user is right generally speaking it is not complicated, but it does have a lot of damage types / defense types. But they are all nicely listed on the player character tabs.
Carter Rogers
Better fix that before the steps of torment or all those crossbow skelingtons are going to love me
Cameron Cook
I'm just to the point in my first play through where I need to make a choice between the Kymon's Chosen or Order of Death's Vigil. It seems that the Order is focused on caster armor, 1h ranged, 2h melee and the chosen are sword and board, 2h ranged, tank armor. I'm assuming none of it really matters?
Brayden Richardson
Every character in diablo 2 had some crazy cool and thematically unique abilities. I cant really see even one I really like in grim dawn. I have yet to see another arpg have as interesting abilities as d2.
Gavin Foster
kymons chosen is fire based weapons, while death vigil is about ice based/skeletons. You pick just lets you choose what story you want to hear.
Benjamin Miller
d2 put you into a really specific role and you stayed there forever. Sorcereress, cold, fire, lightning.
necromancer, druid, assassin.
I liked D2 lots, played lots, but I don't have nostalgia-googles on about it.
Blake Baker
Not only does what you said have nothing to do with what I said but its also wrong.
Anthony Nelson
Man, I love battle markers. They're basically ARPG style berserker packs.
Asher Gomez
Do GD get better after act 1? I played for 2-3 hours then got bored with the game but do it get better later on?
Jeremiah Ortiz
Then why are you telling obvious lies about it.
Thomas Fisher
I've couldn't support this statement when I found the "shits chain lightning, stun and bleed out of arse" build for shaman/warder/druid
Jackson Clark
I'll admit the druid was probably the most useless class, apart from rabies and hurricane it was fucking shitty, However everything else you've stated sounds pretty fictional, also your implying an elemental sorceress cant get their hands on one of those shitty vulnerability auras or isnt soloing
tbh the most terrifying creature I've fought was a manastealer with immunities to physical and magic when i was playing with a frenzy barbarian in hell single player literally took an hour to kill
Jayden Jackson
IMHO, D2 was good, I enjoyed it but it was n not because of the class system. Solo play was also shit in every respect (like a fire sorcerers up against a level of fire skeletons and demons.. lol) and loot sucked. MP had weird zerg rushes to specific mobs for specific drops. D2 was good because it was an early ARPG and deserves respect for being an solid game in it's day but it was far from perfect.
Dylan Edwards
Thats one i haven't heard before
There are items to get around these, especially late game difficulties, and generally solo wise you get to around level 30 by act 3-4, enough to get those shitty resistance decreases for enemies Also it really depends on builds, a FotH paladin is absolutely worthless PvE yet it was quite common PvP
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Sebastian Fisher
Here's your theme song. Now make it zoom into your character and go into black and white a-la [Sound of Silence playing loudly in the background]
Parker Morales
you do know that means In My Honest Opinion, right? smh tbqh fam tbc
What about Loki **aka stock sound effects the game? I remember playing a demo of it a long time ago and it was pretty shit. But I was pretty shit myself back then.
Angel Hughes
Also fyi, Just grab infinity and shove it on a mercenary, If you can find an item that gets lower resists, then grab that as well This pretty much will allow you to break 99% of the immunities in the game, However even if you cant break the immunity you can rely on your companion/hireling tbh user i cant really see you beating anything post-hell solo
James Hill
Goddamn it user, the other anons make it sound like your video is amusing and I can't even load it at all.
Landon Flores
Playan' Diablo 1 with The Hell mod. I'm having great fun with it, but I couldn't get into Grim Dawn for some reason
Matthew Cox
download it and view it with VLC.
Gabriel Hernandez
hasn't heard of IMHO.
Josiah Russell
Maybe if you're wearing nostalgia goggles. The only time I played it with two of my friends, we had to stop after an hour or so, because I picked necromancer and was blasting through the levels with my skeletons and got overleveled while my friends couldn't kill a single enemy. Meanwhile, in diablo 3 on release you literally got yourself an infinite random touhou game where you could get one-shotted by basically any enemy and had to carry 5 escape skills just to survive for a few seconds. Now that was fun as fuck.
Nathaniel Cruz
Learn to read, m8.
Ian Jenkins
I quoted you only by accident.
Daniel Jones
And then you got your shit kicked in by the bosses.
Sure. No commitment, no style, no grace. You only need like 1 dodge skill and you only have 5 or 6 slots for that. PS3 even has a dedotated wam didcated dodge button.
Parker Cook
I am actually offended you tried to compare diablo 3 to touhou Touhou has a much higher skill difficulty, its almost like you're trying to shill that betrayal of a game
Jayden Campbell
I don't think we even got to the first boss. My friends were already bored of playing (even though they wanted me to play with them) and I didn't want them to hate me for the rest of the day.
I've beaten 15th 2hu on lunatic with marisa in point device mode. I have all the rights to. Before all the patches it was near impossible to play on inferno, but you could still beat it as a wizard or demon hunter even with shitty items, if you had lots of determination and skill.
Camden Nelson
How many shekles do you get from this? Because i know Diablo 3 on release was shit all over, even logging on was agony, Why do you need 5 skills to escape when you only need one? Also are you retarded? what were your friends playing as fucking curse necromancers? Unless they had infantile intelligence I'm presuming you're making up more lies, on no level was diablo 3 better than diablo 2
Colton Walker
Meaning you didn't get to Blood Raven? So you played in total what? An hour?
Dominic King
user hes making shit up, No one can be this fucking inept, And if you want to go by the first actual boss, its probably that shitty cold zombie in den of evil, although technically thats just unique
Cooper Scott
We got to the graveyard with some women archers and my friends couldn't even enter without getting killed. They were playing a barb and an amazon or assassin. I had to stay at the corner and kill them with my skeletons one by one. It took about half an hour and we stopped playing afterwards. Sure, just call us retarded.
Aiden Taylor
I dont need to user You pretty much just ousted yourself also You dont even need skills if you've got that many people, just go over there and hit it with your wand, she dies pretty quickly I know more people makes the monsters stronger, but its not fucking that much
yes you are you fucking shill just download the game now, play 20 minutes of it and come back, you'll likely have already reached the fucking black marsh by then, alternatively you might reach the countess if your doing that quest
Blake Clark
You are retarded. you're all either in the special ed class or full of shit
William Ortiz
It's the beginning of the fucking game. How the fuck could your friends be underleveled for it? And why did it take you half an hour to mow through babby-tier mobs and kill the easy boss?
Matthew Scott
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David Gray
Yeah, because it's akin to failing tutorial with three fucking people in your party. If you can walk, click to attack, and drink health potions, then you can beat Blood Raven. Alone.
Nolan Butler
user i could have believed your story if your friends had somehow enabled PvP and were killing each other in the middle of the fight out of some kind of mind numbing stupidity But even then, you should have been able to solo it
also why didnt you make the amount of characters in your game 8 through commands? Its the easiest way to get better loot whilst only slightly increasing difficulty
Adam Carter
She can be killed with melee attacks from any class with just a few potions! What did you doooooooo!
Easton Green
Goddamn it, I can't play ARPGs on hardcore even if I wanted to. Died for the first time as a molotov rioter to The Sentinel. If I were more patient I could had beaten him with kiting. Turns out he's immune to flashbangs and run at double speed.
Wyatt Williams
This is why i stopped relying on flash bangs Found it was better to put my points into damage inflicting abilities demolionist4lyfe Did they fix blast shield up? because before it was useless
Dylan Stewart
If you managed to overlevel it to 22/10, it effectively allows you to avoid projectiles 100% of the time. It also activates automatically at 70% health now.
I don't really rely on them, but they're a really fancy crowd stopper and most bosses and heroes are not immune to fumble.
Mason Morales
*22/12
Alexander Mitchell
But i thought blast shield only blocked two damage types? Did they change it or has it always been that way
Leo Murphy
It blocks fire and piercing, but has chance to avoid projectiles now.
Ryan Myers
I suppose it might be useful now, before it was probably the least useful of all the defensive skills in the game 100% avoid projectiles sounds like the only good thing that comes from it
Ayden Anderson
Just double checked, the Calculator puts it at 80% Is it because the calculator is wrong or have they already found a way to nerf it?
Jaxson Diaz
Well damn, I was pretty sure it said 100% when I was drafting up my rioter.
The lesson I learned is to stop playing whenever I get weary of tossing molotovs, flashbangs followed by a greater fireball for stagger. Still very butthurt that I didn't realize I was running myself into a corner for The Sentinel to kill me.
Basically thought his AoE DoT was doing more damage to me than it really was, panicked and got locked into a corner by mooks and got killed by the boss before my molotovs could kill the mooks and free me. I later killed the boss by literally running around one wall and continuously burning the wall. Molotovs burns over walls.
Colton Cooper
Honestly i think points put into Vindictive flame is a better idea, The health regen and movement speed increases are pretty nice, but its that aoe which i think they also nerfed recently that prevented alot of heavy melee hitters getting close Why must the demolitionist keep getting nerfed? That blast shield is terrible, it only blocks two damage types out of 10, the retaliation of pitiful on whilst taking only 20% of projectiles sounds like a good idea, it doesnt help that the majority of damage i take is from extremely quick melee hitters and shitty fucking aether shit on the ground fuck that paddock filled with it Honestly dodging projectiles that dont home is the easiest thing in the world, and when they do you can just quickly get behind a corner
Charles Reed
No wait, when its activated is the damage blocked just fire and pierce or all incoming damage? Because if its all, its sufficiently fixed the skill
Ryan Myers
Already maxed vindicative flame without taking ulzuin's wrath. It wasn't a full nerf because they changed the movement speed bonus to total speed bonus, making the skill nearly mandatory for most builds.
For melee demolitionist/commando builds it would be. Some bosses shoot projectiles like a shotgun and even ranged glass cannons can be easily taken out if they're not careful.
I actually don't have problem with melee hitters due to extensive flashbang use. The only time I've been batter down have been mostly from carelessness and quick boss spray attacks.
Leo Harris
Paladins, yes Necromancers, fuuuuuuuck no. Necromancers are woefully underepresented, and when they do make an appearance, they usually get it wrong as fuck. Off the top of my head, Diablo II is the only game to ever do necromancers right outside of grand strategy, and grand strat isn't my thing so I'm fucked.
Ian Cook
Fixed amount of all damage, reduces fire and pierce. Praise the Aether. They fixed it.
My end game build I'm aiming for is to have a guy in full plate throwing bottles of multi-elemental "fuck yous". Probably need to think harder for gear to match up or invest some points in hellfire mines. grimcalc.com/build/bIiOr8F
Brayden Rivera
I want to play some Titan Quest, but I fucking suck at builds. I'm always too afraid I'll fuck up something, and so never really experiment with them at all. Does anyone have a build that they personally like or any tips on a good build? I haven't gotten past the first zone in Grim Dawn either because of the same problem; I'm afraid I'll fuck it up for myself and be unable to progress later on
Noah White
Do what I did, user: make a character, play until you get to Egypt, realize you have no more storage space for blues, recipes, and relics, and make a new character who is immediately leagues better than your first one and breezes through the first quarter of the game. Turns out the early game isn't that bad when you one-shot everything.
Aaron Reed
Its like you want them to suffer
Benjamin Ward
what grand strategy games have necromancers?
Cameron Thomas
I've played for 2 hours and I'm already at Delphi. Just play as a Hunter if you want to move fast and kill faster. I'm covered in blues, I've got two souls, and I've made a lesser artifact that doubles my DPS. Satyrs and skeletons aren't even a concern anymore.
Nathaniel Campbell
I just beat Grim Dawn…, and I'm kinda disappointed. Last boss was pretty dumb, and I wish it didn't end on a cliffhanger. The faction seems really awkward tbh (out of enchants that help pets). It's still a good game.
I unlocked Elite, but I'm wondering about the following (you guya are right about Crow sucking. I'll probably drop it for Shaman stuff):
Can you find all 50 shrines on Normal, or do more shrines appear in tougher difficulties?
They just made Druids and Nercos less shitty now. You can actually be a legit Werebear, and Necro summons drastically improved.
At least that's what I got from people here.
Wyatt Garcia
what do you mean now? Have they recently had a new patch or are you referring to mod? regardless, Necros were never shitty, Summonmancers were one of the few classes that could do uber tristrams, Cursemancers were a rarity in a similiar sort of way to shout barbarians, despite being weaker were sometimes even more useful Poison Dagger necromancers weren't awful but suffered the same draw backs as a sorceress although even worse probably considering how many monsters were immune to poison pretty good pvp though Bonemancers were a mostly pvp class, considering they do pure magic damage with those shitty homing spirits however any speed increasing equipment could easily help you avoid them unless you were hit with bone prison And then the extremely fast classes, (assassin, barbarian, paladin ect…) can just out run the actual bone prison being summoned which made them ridiculously easily to kill however you can bypass this by spamming bone wall in front of them, literally ends up making bone prison obsolete Bone spear was usefull pve so the class wasnt that bad, however they were sub par in comparison to summonmancers but at least not as bad a poison dagger necros amirite?
Honestly i would consider Necromancer one of the best classes in the game with the amount of available builds there were Now the druid on the other had no excuse
can someone please tell me why rabies effected bone walls/prison? It fucking made it impossible for a bonemancer to compete with a rabies druid rabies did absurd fucking damage and killed, fuck that
Christian Bennett
Stop trying to ruin games
Colton Hughes
You find most of the shrines on normal, then on elite a small amount of shrines respawn
Zachary Long
But it makes no sense How does a bonewall contract rabies as well as spread it?
Sebastian Gutierrez
although i should add, I'm not asking to change it,
Anyone here played Median Xl I'm so fucking glad they got rid of the female dragon form for the paladin like seriously why the fuck did they think that was an acceptable form? Didnt even look like a dragon, rather it was a big breasted succubus
Grayson Cooper
Only mods I played were Eastern Sun and some mod that allowed you to use the Diablo 2 bosses as playable characters.
Eastern Sun had some fun builds like Golemancers. Fun times.
Adrian Rogers
I now need to look this up
Oliver Fisher
Word is there is an expansion coming
Kevin Cox
Also did you beat it on normal? Because veteran loggy used to be bear impossible for summoners
Alexander Morgan
This I hope they It comes out as good as the titan quest expansion or Diablo 2's If so i wouldn't mind buying
Logan Fisher
SOULVIZIER FOR GRIM DAWN WHEN?
Joshua Morgan
never ever its not really necessary, 'If' there is an expansion in the works which seems likely, then the developers for mods like SOULVIZIER might be waiting for it to come out before they start trying to make their own changes I mean it would be pretty annoying making a mod that effects just about every aspect of the game if an expansion is coming out
Also taking into account grimdawns does regularly go through large changes, i wouldn't be surprised if most mods for grimdawn ceased to work with the expansion
Landon Robinson
Yea, on normal. It's just that with so many interesting act bosses out there with at least one or two stages, you fight some tentacle blob that only has one stage.
I just wanted something more out of the game's final boss and ending than, "Well…you killed a giant blob-thing. Now go chill out while we think about what to do."
I hope the expansion will add more pets that don't suck. If the modding tools allowed you to change up classes, I'd add harpies as one of the pets because they looked pretty cool.
Blake Murphy
Considering how poorly they've done pets so far i wouldn't hope for anything a level 30 necromancer has more pets than the endgame summoner of Grimdawn, Grimdawn just isnt a game meant for summonmancers
Landon Bell
Playing Soldier right now.
Just focusing on straight melee build. Two handed weapons playing the big guy with a big weapon which is my go to play style any time I play a new ARPG.
Will focusing on Forcewave and Cadence be good ?
Obviously picking up any buffs, debuffs and passives as I go.
Already hit level 12. I like the art style and the setting for the game a lot.
Carson Cook
Oh, come on, stealing your enemy's soul fits better in Grim Dawn anyway. come on man I love this shit I need more
Caleb Johnson
Well fuck me I guess
Landon Hernandez
The pet quantity doesn't bother me as much as the quality of the pets.
I want to try the other classes, but none of them are really interesting to me (I hate melee).
William Hill
Pick one. Forcewave morphed to not have cooldown is a beast for aoe internal trauma builds
Ryder Morris
i figured cadence for single target dps and forcewave for mobs
Easton Jones
That's probably for the best, because my hunter feels really disgusting right now. Maybe my last character was just poorly built, I dunno.
Juan Morris
I'm currently trying to hit 75 (I'm 68) to be able to use the axe shown in this pic.
My build works really well too for pure damage. Lightning charges, quick melee, two-handed crushing. Works well.
I want to make a mage but haven't had the time to start a new one yet. Plus I want to hit 75 first with this character to equip my new shit.
Jose Thomas
You will end up spending too many points into both skills and not enough into support skills. Also this game makes a beast of a tank build if you know where to look
Juan Bell
Did anyone else think the last boss was a giant disappointment? You spend the entire game fighting off the aetherial's, while worrying about their grand keikaku, then the final boss shows up as a giant c'thon blobfish. Also, what the fuck happened to devil's crossing, why does the protagonist and the black legion not give any fucks about them?
Isaiah Sullivan
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Landon Sanchez
To be fair, you probably didn't meet and fuck up loggy in his final form. I think lore suggests that you were interrupting the summoning ritual when you found him
Kevin Myers
There's other cities on the map, I just assumed we'd fight the aetherial big boss later.
Logan King
LIfe is suffering brother
Well this seems promising
John Thomas
You saved it by bringing goods from homestead. Black legion simply doesn't care. Wasnt it because they have too much money and they made whole chtonic thing with leftover money as a free bonus? Also every single game in genre has at least one addon.
Alexander Carter
well its just a crossing user, its nothing major in the long run
Cooper Diaz
I grew sentimental to the place and its people, same with homestead
Carter Taylor
Name one fucking character from there. Generic npc one generic npc two and generic npc three?
Benjamin Cruz
Gheed?
Elijah Wood
bourbon, and barnabas
Parker Perry
It didn't feel like the final boss for me. Wasn't that big of a disappointment since the lore was building up that boss fight, but since you didn't have to stop the aetherial's like you said, it felt like a halfway point.
utter trash This comes across as half-arsed Nurgle worship to me
Oliver Flores
Planned devotions
Aaron Brooks
Not until it finally works.
Asher Thomas
Can anyone else literally not believe that Diablo II is STILL relevant with the continued updates to Median XL Ultimative and now the upcoming Median XL Sigma? Marco is a god at programming
Mason Scott
I was expecting a little more from the last boss after fighting guys with different stages.
Black Legion doesn't care about villages getting ransacked by gangs until gangs start playing with cultists and aetherials.
I didn't care about anybody from Devil's Crossing, but then again, I didn't save a lot of people in the first place.
I also wished there was a litle more to Elsa than, "Oh hay goy i saevd myself cuz im kewl liek that lul." Like she could have joined the Black Legion or something.
Isaiah Baker
Wait, has anybody in this thread set up any multiplayer games yet?
Logan Gray
its just me doing literally nothing and getting hit (without nearly ever taking damage), killing monster by retalaion
Colton Jenkins
what a fucking meme game THE ENDING IS LITERALLY A WALL VAGNIA ARE YOU KIDDING ME?
Joseph Anderson
Median XL has problems user Also i can never find someone to play with gonna start playing grimdawn again, I've waited too long since the beta
Kayden Parker
Borderlands?
Brandon Peterson
I liked the direction that brotherlaz took with median xl more.
I'll play, are you playing on a private realm? can't play right now tbh but I will in the future
Juan Edwards
Would it be heresy is someone made Diablo 2 but in borderlands 1st person setting?
Anthony White
Nope, still too little time to actually set up a multiplayer game with someone halfway across the world.
Though I'll be keen to start one up with someone around EU/US once I get to London for my masters in September
Hudson Ward
A first person Diablo game is inherently flawed, as it's much harder to make a diverse skill set when you're limited to the rooty tooty point and shooty perspective.
William Moore
Tried it, combat is reaaaallly slow paced and boring compared to Path of Exile.
Adrian Williams
I don't know guys it just sounds to me like you don't farm enough in PoE if you can't complete your builds. I started playing it only a year ago and I've been able to make very expensive builds in every league.
Just farm a lot of maps and exalts or gear worth several exalts will drop. Also, you HAVE to set up a shop where you sell gear and stuff you have found to other players. And it's not a hassle, takes 2 minutes to set up and after that you will start getting whispers from people all the time wanting to buy stuff from you.
You can easily make lots of exalts even just by selling rares you find.
Daniel Martin
Now if only getting to endgame in PoE was fun, and not a painful, pay-to-win chore…
Nicholas Watson
and you get to do it all over again when a new league starts!
Jason Cruz
I think arc targetting (For explosive orbs, barb jumps etc) has been good enough in fps for years now though. Ground targetting in FPS would be the only thing I think still needs more work on the FPS perspective.
Path of Exile just doesn't work for me. The server is serving me ping spikes despite it being right next door (globally speaking, funny that the more far flips are getting better ping than I do) and the whole league thing is just horrendous.
Matthew White
There's always one of you in these threads.
Oliver Peterson
I liked Elsa too, and it's shit that you don't have at least one mission with her. I also saved literally everybody I could find.
Jack Roberts
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Colton Bell
Elsa is a self aware waifu-bait and I'm glad she knows it.
Blake Jenkins
Turns out, pet builds can be kinda fun
Owen Rogers
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Blake Jackson
That, I agree with. It is very tedious getting to endgame, and takes too many hours even for an experienced player. I still do it every time because end game is so much fun.
John Reyes
Oh, except what the fuck do you mean by There are literally no pay to win aspects in PoE at all. You can't pay for success in that game in any way, or are you saying cosmetic skins make you do better?
Luis Rogers
lol? One of who, people who have legitimate criticism about a game you like so much that you can't admit its faults? Grim Dawn combat is extremely slow paced.
Andrew Nelson
he probably wants to argue that the premium stash tab indexing feature for poe.trade is pay to win since he's too much of a shitter that he has to buy and sell shit to other players for the items he needs for the build in the guide he's following and people with premium stash tabs can do that so MUCH faster than he can without premium tabs, thus making it pay to win and lets not mention the currency stash tab to store all the currency you get from your pay to win tabs
Mason Sullivan
Meh, it's like a few seconds faster to price stuff on premium stash tabs than through a 3rd party software like Acquisition. I just play in windowed mode and alt tab to Acq, price the stuff I just placed in my stash after a few maps, and done. Only takes a short while.
Buying stash tabs is Pay4SlightConvenience, not Pay2Win.
And anyway, it is a free game, I don't see what the problem is buying one currency stash tab and one pack of extra stash tabs for 7 euros. In total you will have spent only 14 e on the game now - when, I assume, you spend 30-60 on many full games you buy, many of which have less content and gameplay than PoE.
Xavier Green
I was just pointing out how fucking rediculous the reasoning was
Lincoln Harris
Stash tabs are a pain in the ass if you don't buy them, and they haven't made it easier, and they don't plan to, for people to mule shit between characters, considering how many you actually will need, chaos recipes, uniques, good rares, currency etc.., they stack up and keeping track of them, and managing them is a complete fucking pain in the ass with the standard number of tabs, if they made it easier to exchange shit between characters it wouldn't be a problem, but nope, they will never do that
Christian Brooks
Well fuck, just test out via spell tooltips and Iskandra's elemental exchange doesn't affect pure spell damage whatsoever.
Austin Gomez
No, I meant one of you who thinks PoE shits gold when it's one of the most unsatisfying ARPGs I've ever played. Maybe it was cause I played it 3 or 4 years ago, but back then, once you got near the end of the game, the only way for you to have a build worth a shit is to either trade with other people (fucking gay) or grind forever (also gay). Maybe I'm just missing something, I don't know.
Gabriel Thomas
Guys shut the fuck up about whos games Dicks longer, everyone has favourites obviously.
You should post more retarded builds instead.
Jordan Morgan
your favorite game is shit
Julian Myers
What's Holla Forums bump limit and why is it bumplocked at 300+ replies?
Sebastian Hernandez
Because mark is a faggot kike
Josiah Diaz
I'll make a new thread, just…. as soon as this webm is done.