Clerical fascists, how you can reconcile the two beliefs? Christianity and fascism seem so antithetical to me...

Clerical fascists, how you can reconcile the two beliefs? Christianity and fascism seem so antithetical to me, Christianity promotes pacifism weakness and tolerance while
clerical fascists like Codreanu and Primo De Rivera were anything but that.
It seems to me, you can be a good Christian and a poor fascist, or a good fascist and a poor Christian
Are there any red pilled books on Christianity I should read?

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burzum.org/eng/library/a_bards_tale08.shtml
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They are both the Hero's Journey OP.

Christ lifts the burden of the karma you take on in life, as long as you live within Gods law.

Thou shall not murder (NOT thou shall not kill)

Try the Bible. Read all of it, you owe it to yourself and to Western Civilisation - it is the most influential book in our history and shaped how our ancestors saw the world. What you'll find is that there is essentially nothing that is forbidden in Christianity, but that all things must be done for the correct purpose.


Ecclesiastes 3:1-8 King James Version (KJV)

To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven:

A time to be born, and a time to die; a time to plant, and a time to pluck up that which is planted;

A time to kill, and a time to heal; a time to break down, and a time to build up;

A time to weep, and a time to laugh; a time to mourn, and a time to dance;

A time to cast away stones, and a time to gather stones together; a time to embrace, and a time to refrain from embracing;

A time to get, and a time to lose; a time to keep, and a time to cast away;

A time to rend, and a time to sew; a time to keep silence, and a time to speak;

A time to love, and a time to hate; a time of war, and a time of peace.


1 Corinthians 10:23 King James Version (KJV)

All things are lawful for me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but all things edify not

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It even says if you're in another country, act like they act culturally so you can convert them to Christianity. It advocates 'lying' through action. It creates the idea of there being no such thing as a traitor and only social constructionist.

They are antithetical. That's why you browbeat the Church into obedience. Christianity is inherently subversive, much like its spiritual predecessor Judaism.

The funny thing at least in Codreanu's case is that even though he was a devout orthodox christian he was excommunicated and denounced by the church. And in fact before he died you can read in his prison notes that he came to the realization that the churches themselves are an enemy of the Aryan people.

Léon could tell, if he was still with us.

Where?
It's judo.

Old testament vs. New testament. Christ is the servile compassionate Buddha-like figure, the Good of the old yesterday was a heavy handed King who ruled the people of the Earth as he pleased

*God of the Old Testament

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They are antithetical and National Socialism is even more antithetical to christ cuckery than Fascism is

You could at least try to not be completely transparent about your D&C.

Never change, fedora tippers.

Go back to the desert with your sand-nigger jew religion.

Traditionalist paganism is the superior ethos tbqh
Christianity is an easily-subverted and fractured creed that's ultimately a Jewish desert religion

hm rly maeks u think


I met some very nice Muslims. They had a gay son and invited me over for a multicultural dinner where they expressed interest in my own views and religion. It's so great to experience such a welcoming, progressive faith. :^)

Also, when will it ever go through you christcuck's heads that the hatred from Jews on Christianity DOES NOT give it merit.

Jews hate NIGGERS, yet NIGGERS have no merit.
Same goes for Niggeranity.

Nice D&C

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As much as I hate this meme it raises a good point. Why aren't there more Greek, Roman or Slavic Pagans? I know most of this board (and white Nationalists) have Germanic roots but surely there are enough Slavs, Greeks and Italians for there to at least be a passing interest

Because Pagans are edgy manchildren who LARP as pagans because Vikangz are cool and Christianity is too mainstream.

It's LOCAL, be a vikang if you're nordic.
I'm Brythono-Saxon, heil Taranis, Belenos, Nodens and Sulis and all that.
The idea behind traditionalist paganism is to reclaim it from the yid hippies and use it as a sound moral and religious base for white communities. It's far more suitable to that purpose than Christianity because it's part of our roots, encourages big families, ancestor and birth worship and extreme xenophobia.


The majority of posters on the board are Amerikangs as far as I'm aware, which means they have to settle for vikang reconstructonism, not having a physical connection to the homeland and often being mutts anyway.

fuck off kike

Sure, in the same way every Christian is a spineless cuckold.

How is resurrecting a dead religion that you only pretend to believe in because it marginally aligns with your political views NOT the act of an edgy atheistic manchild? Take your time.

Is LARPing too

Is a strawman

>smug anime posting because you don't have an argument

Not a bad thing, and a lot more than marginally.
Tribal confederacies are the future tbh

No, my friend, that's you just showing how much of an edgelord you are.
You literally brought a religion that hasn't been practiced for millennia back to life because you don't like Christianity. You aren't a pagan and nobody you know believes in any 'god' you pretend to worship. Get over it.
You just don't have a counterargument because you know it's true. Paganism is dead and has no defense mechanism against monotheism.
No, they aren't. Our enemies are united under the banners of states and imperial ideologies. Tribal confederacies don't survive in the face of that.

Are you telling me fascists must not have empathy, mercy or compassion?

ay yo boi we wuz vikangz an sheet mayne

FUCK OFF WITH THE DNC KIKES
NATIONAL SOCIALISM TRANSCENDS ALL

Only, only for the ingroup. Empathy mercy and compassion for outgroups is how we got into this mess in the first place.

My specific variant of Christianity hasn't been tried yet!

My specific variant of Christianity has been tried for nearly 2,000 years and has worked exceedingly well up until people started to become atheist and pretend to be pagan.

It's always embarrassing when Holla Forums tries to use memes against other people.

Lel that's quite an assumption there.

Top fucking kek that literally one of the arguments people like you use in favor of Christianity. So I suppose by that logic you only pretend to believe in God because muh family values? Values that have existed long before Christianity and can exist quite happily without it

But the current Christianity isn't real Christianity.

Empathy for the ingroup is heavily stressed in Paganism

realheathenry.com/sin-thew-bones-innangeard/

I hope you realise that nobody takes you seriously when you say that you believe in it.

White people abandoning Christianity has coincided exactly with white people stopping breeding enough to replace their dying population. So yeah white people need Christianity.

What do you think Protestantism was, which countries followed which did not? Why is it that only Germanic speaking countries use their ancient word "God" and praise them as they did instead of the Roman's "Deus"? Is it more than just a language barrier?

The Germanic soul will not be denied, and that is why evildoers go after those who can replenish it. It is not the land by the man, woman and child they must remove to have victory.

If the Christ cannot quiet this need for survival you will see more of old things start to rise perhaps in your very self mattering on the history of your family. It is only fate.

The difference is, I didn't make up Christianity. You fedoras made up a NRM based on extinct pagan faiths to fill the void in your souls while avoiding having to worship at the altar of a real religion.

You know, fraternity isn't exclusive to pagans.

Tell that to the Germans today.

Tell that to every time it was thought so before everything suddenly changed. Had the sickness happened more slowly I might agree but everything is happening to fast it cannot be stopped now.

The old heart still beats with ancient blood.

And that's all that counts, all that has ever counted.

Is this the same Germanic soul that's working tirelessly to import as many arabs and niggers into Europe as possible, in an attempt to keep their economic/bureaucratic institution alive and controlling other European nations who are actively resisting the invasion?

I get it, mate. I'm a fascist; I have a painting of our fuhrer on my wall, but Germany isn't the center of the world. Fascism isn't unique to Germany, nor is everything from that people good, or worth praising. Martin Luther was a raving socialist who wanted to democratize religion so the plebs could - and did - degenerate it. He was to Christianity as Marx was to modern politics; no reason to praise him, just because he was German.

It's because they work well in hand together.
This is a dead leftist meme spouted on Holla Forums endlessly by shills/useful idiots who are historically illiterate.
I wonder why…
Because you've limited your capacity to look at both sides without some sort of previous bias or cognitive dissonance.

Christianity absorbed many aspects of Paganism during the conversion period. It never truly died.
Christianity is ultimately a foreign, flawed religion that is currently being used against us, so user turning away from it is no bad thing
Why? Because you say so?

Poor leadership begets poor followers but there must be doom, struggle, the witnessing of the abyss before anything can be done. Much of Germania's blood is alive but the bones are frail, this will not last forever. There is only one thing you can save from the vortex and it will be understood again.


Whatever Luther did caused disturbances, without him there wouldn't have been a collapse in Church control across the German tribes then and much of the old tales of that region would have been lost, not to mention how much Protestants wrote about the old gods. First they wrote of them in ridicule but this has slowly changed.

Yes not everything is good which is written down but its important to know why it was written and predict what is written next.

Again with the fucking assumptions. You know there are people out there who won't take you seriously when you say you believe in God right? Guess you should stop being a Christian bro
Lel so let me get this straight, according to you Christianity=Breeding? Makes me wonder how humanity managed to survive before Christianity.

No, it died but remnants of it was preserved in Christianity, you can thank us later.
These are all lies and you know it, Europeans adopted Christianity very early on, it worked well with the Greek philosophies, just because it originated 833.67 kilometres away from Eastern Rome doesn't make it "foreign".

Where were the Christians of Europe 500 years ago calling for the extinction of Europeans through immigration? The current "Christianity" you see is complete Jewish subversion. It holds no resemblance to what it once was.

Do you perform any of these "pagan" rituals? Do you sit down and worship all the many gods from your snowflake variety of "paganism"? Do you encourage human sacrifice by drowning people in bogs? Or do you sit on Holla Forums wilfully ignorant of these dead religions and their practices?

My people were "pagans" once, it would be cringey as fuck to pretend as if I have any connection to that religion and the old gods. It would be the forced meme of the century.

Latin isn't dead! France is a Romance language! :D
This institution which has been around here for 1,000< years needs to leave because it's different to the one it replaced which hasn't been around here for 1,000< years. Makes sense!
Because you haven't the foggiest idea what their customs, rituals and beliefs fully entailed. At best, you took a handful of snippets from classical scholars and called it a day. That's if you don't make it up out of whole cloth. It's LARPing to the extreme.

No the difference between you and me, is everyone knows I truly believe in God. Nobody, literally nobody, thinks you actually believe in your """religion""". We all know it's just a show to promote your political views.
Pretty much. Most branches of Christianity prohibit contraception and abortion. Seems white people can't manage to stop killing their own children without someone to tell them it's wrong.

Your entire religion comes from the Bible, a collection of stories that were recorded years after they supposedly took place.
Dat strawman
And what constitutes a real religion? Do tell

I know, my point is that it's a key tenet of Paganism. It's much easier for a Pagan to tell a boatload of refugees to fuck off than a Christian

do you have a response to or ?

Not THIS shit again…

First one, a Pope declares that a Catholic nun is a saint for being a martyr. I don't get it? That's what Popes do, being killed for your faith is what classifies you as a martyr, being in heaven is the definition of a saint… what's the problem?
Second one is just typical "look at this one dumb fuck haha xtians rekt".

Neither of them were good posts that brought anything new to the table which is why they were both ignored.

from

articles.latimes.com/1998/oct/12/news/mn-31816

Jewish-Born Nun, Killed by Nazis, Is Made a Saint

VATICAN CITY — Pope John Paul II bestowed sainthood Sunday on Edith Stein, a Jewish-born Catholic nun killed by the Nazis in 1942, and said the Roman Catholic Church will use her feast day each year to commemorate the Holocaust.

nothing wrong with that, you said?


from

press.vatican.va/content/salastampa/en/bollettino/pubblico/2016/07/23/160723a.html

The Church in Poland: welcoming refugees, 23.07.2016

Shortly after the appeal launched by Pope Francis during the Angelus of 6 September, urging each parish, convent and shrine in Europe to welcome a family of refugees during the Jubilee Year of Mercy, the Presidency of the Polish Episcopal Conference wrote: "The Catholic Church in Poland, called to lend support to other people in a special way during the Year of Mercy, will do everything within her power to assist refugees in their dramatic situation", and entrusted to Caritas Polska the responsibility for organising and coordinating initiatives relating to aid for refugees at diocesan level through the diocesan Caritas, and recalled the responsibility of national authorities for guaranteeing controls, safety, and basic services for refugees.

your response is "just typical "look at this one dumb fuck haha xtians rekt"."? that's it?


Is this a christian version of hasbara? Is there a specific word for christian hasbara?

is it because she was born a jew and converted? or because she has a feast day? pause for this spastic to google what a Catholic feast day is

The church has said it will support refugees currently in Poland, the majority being Ukrainians denied by Germany. There are also almost no muslim refugees in Poland. You're making a mountain out of a handful of priests virtue signalling.

Yes, it's called "ignoring retards who post the same shit that has obvious answers over and over again"

Codification of an existing faith doesn't discredit it. It ensures its survival.
Dat lack of an argument.
You've honestly devolved to the point of asking for definitions?
No, it isn't, Varg. You don't get to dictate what a thousand different sects believe in.
Only because nobody cares about pagans. If you had an ounce of institutional power, the kikes would be crawling up your ass like they do with every other faith.

No, really?
See above.

That's fucking stupid. So it's good to go to Africa and jibber around like a monkey so they will be on your team?


National Socialism is Fascism.

sage for shitty religion thread

Daily reminder that "Varg" Kristian Vikernes is not actually a pagan and doesn't believe in any gods or spiritual entities, but Reason™ and Science™. He's no less materialistic than a fedora-tipper on r/atheism, but just is more fond of pagan symbolism.

burzum.org/eng/library/a_bards_tale08.shtml
tl;dr atheistic materialism is implicit white identity t. bagan hero varg

Nobody who's jew-wise would ever try to defend the post Vatican II (Vatican jew) Church.

By pretending that debasing and holding yourself in slave morality takes willpower and hence is actually indicative of inner strength which can be re-purposed in self-defense ala the crusades, but which actually demonstrates the complete moral hypocrisy of a parasitic and cuckolded ideology willing to revise and reinterpret doctrine in any which way to save their own hides.

The classical antiquity was more advanced than 1000 years of christian europe before the renaissance (of PAGAN ideas). That is because pagans didn't destroy architecture as "materialistic" pursues, science as "distractions" from theology, sports as "lust of the flesh", making people live up in mud-huts to die of the plague or starve while the clergy and christian nobles lived lives of luxury, treating their own folk as property and "sheep" of the church. Greeks knew the diameter of the earth thousands of years before modern scientists. The pyramids and Rome's Pantheon still can't be replicated, as do most menhirs.

This is what Varg is saying - the pagan gods are ideals, related to a lot of scientifical aspects, not some imaginary folk in the skies, but tangible aspects of life and role-models. Why don't you try to understand things and redpill more on your OWN traditions, that are 500.000+ years old, instead of sperging online and fling shit at proven anti-semites.

I can add that the christians reduced the gods to their interpretation of "magical beings in the sky", not just because they were brainwashed and called them devils, but purposefully so, to convert people and distort their traditions. You have to remember only monks were allowed to write in the middle ages.

"seem so antithetical to me"
Why don't you do some research and know for sure before you bitch like a little faggot.

See a lot of people here referencing the old testament, regardless of what god set as law in the old testament Jesus died to start the new testament.
Hebrews Chapter 9, Verse 16: "For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator"