Gene editing is acceptable but eugenics is not

I was thinking about how the gene editing is a perfectly acceptable idea, but eugenics is considered horrible and evil.

Eugenics is basically a natural form of gene editing, without the risk of terrible side effects by meddling with things we barely understand. Eugenics has been practiced for centuries to produce certain breeds of animals with more desirable traits. Why is attempting to produce people with more desirable traits by tampering with genetics any better?

This social hypocrisy exists in another example, regarding abortion. It is perfectly fine to abort your unborn child because you don't feel like raising it. But it is not okay to abort your child because it has a physical defect.

It really makes to think.

Given that society (even shitskins) sees green/blue eyes, tallness, fair hair and skin, and intelligence as attractive I don't imagine gene editing being a bad thing.

Go watch Gattaca and tell me if you see anything wrong with that future.

The jews would use the genetic modifications to alter the humanity to be enslaved transhumanity and be ruled by then with the iron rods so no thank. Just legalise abortion, euthanasia, selective breeding, birth licence and mandatory genetic testing.

I do that movie was boring as all fuck.

funny, since I always considered gene editing evil and eugenics to be perfectly fine. Why? Because with eugenics, you, in the end, get a super human. The process takes too long to do any freaky shit with it and gives rather predictable results. Now, if you could tailor a person's genes, you would give quite a lot of power into the hand of the person doing the editing. (((Someone))) could easily come with the idea of tailoring certain people to be more proficient at certain tasks (thus effectivelly choosing their future career for them, naturally reserving the highest spots of the society for the (((chosen))) few). Or they could come up with making everyone more (((equal))) – I can already imagine it "our polls say that too many whites are being born, so we will make your child a nigger".

Maybe, but I think it'll be more like Asian countries where they go through extreme plastic surgery to get white features.


Fuck off, pleb

Ignoring that the science will be used to make a slave race, intelligence and civility don't come from fair skin or blue eyes. Arabs modifying their babies to look like us doesn't make them less arab, only genetic abominations as well.

This tech is a double edged sword but the nations that can not or will not use it will be left in the dust.

Shedding morals for technological progress is literally trading short term gain for long term prosperity

tell that to dr. mengele you idiot.

this shit is the exact same thing as with the nuklear arms race, if all your potential enemys have the technology that can eradicate you in the blink of an eye but you have nothing to counter it you lose by default.
ignoring the fact that gattaca was nothing but bullshit writen by some idiot that wantet to make the next terminator scare, genmodification is like every technology, a damn tool and nothing more.
fucks sake when hammers were inventet we dident bash our heads in untill no one was left and when oppenheimer created nuklear fission it dident wipe humanity eather.
stop being scared little faggots and see this oportunity for what it is the next great leap forward, and with arteficial life being right behind gen editing probadly the biggest jump humanity ever made.

What part of "double edged sword" do you not understand?

about what, overtones?

right now I'm thinking we should gene-edit for literary intelligence

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op pls, people don't give a shit about rationality

just do a simple test

wait

Full blown genetic engineering is better than eugenics. I mean I have nothing against eugenics per se, it made sense in the early 1900s but why use it now when we have a better technology available? It would be like going to the field with a scythe when you have a combine harvester.

In all honesty things like Musks' Neural Lace technology are far more likely to enslave people.
You can't breed someone to be a slave and intelligent enough to design modern technology (or better.) You can feasibly take a normal genius and wire their brain in a way after they've been trained to make them do your bidding.

Look at all the snowflakes, user. All the people with tattoos, retarded piercings, and florescent colored hair. Its not just fringe freaks, this is becoming normalized more and more each day.

Now imagine what would happen if these people got their hands on genetic engineering. Try to use your imagination and think more in terms of reality, and less about the best possible outcome that can come out of a technology.

Imagine what humanity will be reduced to after a couple generations of snowflakes modifying their genes. Genetic modification is some great filter- level shit.

The one thing I dislike about genetic engineering over eugenics is that eugenics is more natural, which has some implications to it. Namely, with eugenics/selective-breeding if a trait survives it means the things related to it are viable as well (i.e. you aren't avoiding being fat just because your stomach shrank to match your metabolism, you had your metabolism change pace.) This matters for things like SHTF (given long enough every single society will have their SHTF moment where it crumbles) when high-tech disappear, at least for a time. A natural development of adaptations means those adaptations stick around even if we have nothing but stones and fire left. A genetic engineering derived adaptation likely will need some degree of extra maintenance to make up for its shortcomings. To say nothing of the most likely scenario given how we know tech will never live up to it's ideal implementation and instead be abused by corporate interests for long-term profit: it will likely require some additional periodic treatment (e.g. CRISPR has been outlawed for use on anything relating to reproductive organs or otherwise capable of being passed along, meaning if you use it to cure a fatal illness at birth it must be applied to each new member of each successive generation - meaning people with that issue keep spreading unchecked, and it's a fuckload easier to have a bad mutation than a good mutation like that if you remove the selection criteria,) it will even more likely require some additional drug (why make a cure when you can make a cure that comes with a fatal ailment if the patient stops paying you,) or some specialized food, routine, etc for similar reasons.

If tech were implemented well the internet would be free, drugs wouldn't be developed on a "treatments over cures" basis, technology wouldn't be used to spy on people, banks wouldn't have interest (yes, currency is a technology, perhaps one of the oldest and therefore most fully abused,) etc. The only thing which really happens with tech over time is a greater use in exploitation and control, Hell, probably the only reason we don't have free energy and flying interplanetary cars is that they would have the opposite effect, I sincerely doubt we lack the technology in black projects.

Not a degenerate, but I wouldn't mind growing a second penis.

Hence why it should be strictly regulated by the government.

No fuck that. We could have 99% of the world's population wiped out tomorrow and there'd still be many millions of us left over and we'd do just fine. I for one welcome open genetic experimentation. Let the mutants roam the streets… besides, we already live through a racemixing apocalypse. We'll just start being racist towards mutants and excluding them from our circles, refusing to mix with them, etc.

Also, if we don't get our hands on this stuff, the chinks will.

More pics like this please. Holy shit.

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user why do you assume the degenerate society will live. The society that uses genetic engineering to the greatest human advantage will conquer all.

You mean (((they))). Obviously we need to get rid of those first.

Not necessarily. One concern is that gene editing might be used to create castes or subspecies literally bred to serve a master caste. That master caste could just as easily be degenerate a la the oriental despots of old as a race of supermen. If you could program the lower orders to be incapable of revolt then the masters don't really need to be very sharp to stay on top. Even competition might not prevent it as a society of enhanced humans could conceivably be beaten by a zerg rush of the masters' expendable drones.

gas the zergs

Bad example. Modern agriculture is destroying our children's inheritance. I'd rather not do the same to their very blood.

At most, I'd like to see that people be limited to choosing the very best of the genes both parents possess, rather than creating some genetic Frankenstein that's actually the child of hundreds of different people. This way, the child does not suffer from a poor hand and gets to maintain his human dignity of being fully related to his parents.

Eugenics was actually humanist and pushed by progressives. It would have prevented billions of lives in suffering plus we'd get a literally smarter, stronger, more advanced humanity out of it. Funny thing watching the jetsons as a kid I thought it'd come any day now but it's decades later and we still don't have flying cars yet. Like all technological innovations that don't have a screen stopped but even then we don't have floating holographic screens yet either. They robbed us of the future for feels and those feels are heavily misguided. Now we have billions suffering unnecessarily in the world many of whom take their own lives freely.

Isn't Pepe an illegal spic surrounded by qts?

It's not even about shedding morals, there's plenty of vanilla stuff you can do with gene mods like removing heritable illnesses. The problem is that our jewish society is incapable of any discussion more nuanced than a choice between "It's pure evil hitler, ban it" and "It's the ultimate utopian good, shove it down everyone's throats". There are aspects of gene editing that are agreeable and others that should be reconsidered, and even the tame stuff would still lead to a fundamental shift in how society sees itself (the same way fundamental physics made many people cultural relativists).

Point is, blindly chasing after the newest society changing technology without any real discussion or possibility for compromise is a wholly jewish way of living.

Back when progress actually meant the literal progress of the white race. Oh, and fun fact: Flying cars actually exist. It's just a bad idea to give them to the degenerated, low coordination men that exist today.

Next thing you'll tell me you believe in the holohoax too.

Like two people fucking and having a retarded kid? Or one with a serious birth defect? or just ugliness/stupidity/weakness/etc?

We already have terrible side effects from the genetic lottery, let's get on with this shit.

Ok, let's retain SOME intellectual honesty here. The difference is choice.

Eugenics implies who you get to raise kids with is determined by law. Normies don't like to be restricted from a potential partner by the government. Gene editing, however, implies you get to choose what traits your kid has yourself.

Really, this dilemma equates to this:
Normies will choose the latter every time. And they might actively fight against the former.

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Good one

Yes, we all know the end goal is to turn all gentiles into cattle to be farmed by the kikes. This does not mean you can have this discussion without mentioning the ethics which most normalfags hold. We live in a society in which the vast majority of people value individual liberty over basically everything else. When it comes to voting in particular, you will generally find they select the option which promises more personal choice.

Democratic nations are so enamored of equality, they would rather be equal in slavery than unequal in freedom.
– Aleis De Tocqueville

Are we basing this off 99% of people not knowing what is actually a good or bad idea for them in the long run? This seems to be the biggest problem already being one foot in the grave trying to use sophistry on people who can't comprehend simple charts or facts?

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The fact is you're not going to get ANYWHERE with these people if you don't even understand why they think the way they do.

I want eugenics and gene editing.

If gene editing is not free and expensive (which it will be) then the gap between rich and poor will bridge even more so. That is exactly what they want, we will be even more subservient than we already are.

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