Anyone old enough to remember when the term Muslim wasn't part of common parlance...

Anyone old enough to remember when the term Muslim wasn't part of common parlance? Prior to 9/11 these people were called Arabs. It was only after 9/11 that the term Muslim came into common use. Muslims and Islam are also their words. Those aren't words from our language.

You look at the other names for religions in English we don't call those religions as they were originally called in the native languages that they originated. Christians for example, literally Christ-ians or followers of Christ, same for Buddhists, Buddh-ists or Buddha-ists or followers of Buddha. Hindu doesn't come from Indians. It comes from what the Persians called the people that lived across the Indus River. Yet with the term Muslim and Islam we use those people's language and call them what they want to be called? Those terms have become so common now that even people on our side call them that. Arab has almost fallen out of use even though it wasn't that long ago that that was the term used by the majority of people and Mohammedan what they were once called by academics is pretty much completely out of use.

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The terms Islam and Muslim are just attempts to rebrand. The Saracen need to be wiped out

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I don't recall much about their religion being known or taught, the one book on the subject at my library on 'muslims' was so old it called them musselmen and mahometan (sp). However, white lands were commonly called 'christendom' until recently most of the people here use 'christian' to mean white, and aren't religious and indians were as likely as not to be called hindus until very recent.

Probably memes to make it easier to see them as a whole as enemies, not that they aren't, but to make us look past the niggers we were importing who weren't muslim, and especially to obfuscate any jewish connections. Jews are a religion after all, never a race.

reminder that pic related was the French foreign minister and basically made the world use an arab word.

It's easier to just call them terrorists or semites.

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I remember when the news translated "allah akbar".
Seems a lifetime ago.

It's because their religion is what's being discussed, not their ethnicity. The two go hand in hand obviously, but it's not their race that's necessarily what people are referring to. During the time period that you're talking about, when these people would be talked about, it typically wasn't in reference to their religion or terrorism.

I only ever hear liberal retards use the term Muslim as a race anyway. Most people will use their nationality when discussing them if it's important, but otherwise their nationality and ethnicity isn't relevant to the discussion, since their religion, and the behavior that religion is endorsing, is what is relevant to the discussion. Doesn't matter if the terrorist is an Afghan or an Iraqi, because being from Afghanistan or Iraq isn't the reason he's shouting Aloha Snackbar while he's blowing himself up.

yes it is

Dunno about you but in Germany they have been called Muslims or Moslems or for decades.

I remember when Islam was considered a nuisance, not an existential threat though.

Purely academic. Muslims are subhuman by virtue of being Muslims. It'd be like making a distinction between Israelis and American Jews.

This is one of the most obvious newspeak phrases on top of it.

There was period during the gulf war but that's about it. 9/11 really kicked it off and ZOG and neocons gleefully rubbed their criminal hands.

Palestinians and Syrians are pretty cool guys. Cool in the way a tiger is cool you witness at a zoo. They fight ZOG and don't afraid of anything, but they're not really human. Yes, not really human. 'Human' is a word invented by Aryans, used by Aryans, for Aryan purposes.

Oh, forgot to add: they're Arabs and niggers and need to stay out of Aryan countries. The reason they use 'Muslim' is because they're importing a bunch of shitskin 'Christians' from Africa.

I'm old enough to remember the two or three months after 9/11 when every newspaper in Melbourne had a different spelling of al-qaeda / al-qaida / al-kaida.

I also remember an amusing article at the time about a mohammedan student named Ben Laden who was being bullied by his white classmates.

I prefer shit-skin or bag-head. Mohammadan is as good a term though. The term "arab" is misleading because not all mohammedans are arabs.

As is Moslem with "o".

I forgot the exact reasons but the root Mos- triggers them because it relates to something haram. This is why in Germany Muslims insist to be called Muslim like in English (when they're invited to political talk shows for example) and not Moslem which is the correct word in German.

We actually used to call them Mohammedans. I assume that fell out of favor just because it's a bit unwieldy to say. I still see it every once in a while.

Also, I'll switch between arabs and muslims. Just remember that it's not JUST arabs that are the problem, because the ones from places like afghanistan and pakistan are not muslim, but they're just as bad

It's just a matter of cucking out and using the Arabic term or using a Germanized version of it. It's like in the UK (((media))) where they say Muhammad instead of Mohammed.

Vowels aren't that important in semitic languages and the muds themselves corrupt the names (see t*rks called Mehmet).


t. mud

Maybe by idiots not distincting between ethnicity and religion.

Burger speak is so sad, it's not even real (international) English.

On a similar note, what's up with the different ways of saying muslim/islam?
It seems like you can always identify a cuckold by the way they say "moose-lums" and "iss-LAAAM"( with accent on the second syllable). Whereas normal people say "izz-lam"(with accent on the first syllable)and "muzz-lim"

Anyone know anything about this?

I'm 45 and, for as long as I can remember, the term for people adhering to the religion of Islam have been called "Muslim".

Arabs are called Arabs. There are 1.6 billion Muslims in the world, but only 300 million Arabs. So, clearly, not all Muslims are Arab.

With the exception of colonized shitskins in places like africa/americas, they are basically the same thing. Europe = christian, Arabia = muslim, India = hindu, etc. Yeah, there are and have been exceptions, but that's been the main jist.

It's the Arab (or pseudo-Arab) pronunciation. Like I said, cuckoldry.

In a 13th C. Old English romance I'm reading right now, the term Sarasins (saracens) is the most common descriptor. They also refer to mohammad as mahoun.
The 19th C. 'translations' of the same story instead refer to them as moslems.

I have noticed some leftists get upset about 'moslem' being used in lieu of 'muslim' since the former is allegedly a 'colonial' term.

Not all Muslims are Arabs, but all Muslims are cancer, like this stupid fucking op.

people complained when I said Barack Obama's name the way it should be spoken if it were an english word, phonetically bear-ack Oh-bam-ah. We understood that an attempt was being made to force accommodation of foreign and hostile culture, with the difference being that they were complicit.

'Islam' is the same thing, and to express it properly within the language I say it as Islamy. It looks and sounds stupid, but it pisses the right people off and asserts native english conventions.

I might get flack for this, but I do think *some* muslim populations can be saved. For example, there are Turks who really just genetically Greek and LARPing as muslims. Not all, because plenty have been turned into shitskins from central asian and arab admixture, but some. And also some of the Iranians who are of purer blood, rather than the shitskin variants.

That's not to say I want any of them coming into Europe/America and shitting the place up. But I do think they can be "re-hellenized" so to speak.

It doesn't matter if they can be saved or not. It's not our job to do so. If they fuck up their own nation and can't sustain themselves there, then too bad. If we start "fixing them", then they'll feel entitled to come over here.

Jews brought their war with Arabs and Muslims to us. I believe that a big part of it is Jews desire to end Islamic banking. Like E Michael Jones said, capitalism is state sponsored usury. Usury and money creation and control is how Jews maintain power over us.

I have to disagree with this. Where you were born and were raised has a lot to do with who you are in this age of globalized religions. Indonesia has the largest amount of Muslims, yet you don't usually hear about terrorism being exported from there. I do believe I have read a thread on here that explained how Afghanis have been having sex with little boys for eons, even before Mohammed's conquests. For as far back as one can see, religions have been used to change disparate people and to "civilize" them in the eyes of the conquerors. Is a praying Indian the same as an Italian bishop? Your argument that a race's homeland and history does not shape them is not sound. Hell even the geography of where a race originated with shape its consciousness. That's why people want to end all the incoming refugees. Its not just because they're Muslim and they're different therefore bad, it's because Islam was started by an entirely alien culture that does not and has never been compatible with Europe. Are you a secret globalist by any chance? I thought it was taken for granted that anons were aware of these things here.

moslem means man of evil
muslim means man of god

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I didn't even know Muslims existed before 9/11. I was 10, but still never gave it much thought.

In day to day life, when not functioning in my official capacity, I tend to refer to them as:


Even use the first two pretty freely in general conversation.

They were also called "Asiatics", not to be confused with Chinese/Japanese/etc. who were called "Orientals".

They still do that in Britistan.

s-l-m is submission, so m(u)-s-l-(i)m is a man who submits.

Arab is a word to describe someone's ethnicity or geographic origin. Arabic is a language. Arabian is something from the Arabian peninsula. Muslim is a person who follows the religion of Islam. To say that we should call them Arabs again is the same as saying we should start calling all whites Christians. We used to call Muslims Musulmans or Mahomitans (followers of Mohammed). We can go back to that if you like.

Yes I am an old guy. In the 1980's Muslim and Islam wasn't even a part of American culture. I had never met anyone who was Muslim. My uncle was part of the 1979 Iranian Revolution in the sense that in 78 his wife and kids were flown out, and in later part of 78 he left as an American construction executive. The US hostages were seized afterwards. Of any Iranians that fled or arrived in the US if they were muslim, they didn't announce it or make it known, they were referred to as Iranians. The 1983 Beirut barracks bombings was a big wake up call for the American public because many in the US felt the US hadn't done anything to warrant such an attack. It angered the public and was forever used as level to instill hate against Muslims. It was the first time I recall the lexicon Islamic anything ever being spoken. At the time of the bombing, an obscure group called the "Islamic Jihad" claimed responsibility for the attack.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1983_Beirut_barracks_bombings#Search_for_perpetrators

But again during this period it was middle east 101. Iran bad, Israel good, Arabs undecided but they were begging to be grouped as a whole in news reports as bad, except there were some good ones. The question of attributing it to religion wasn't even paramount because most Americans, if they are Christians, they are only Christians on Sunday. It was all forgotten for years until the 1993 World Trade Center bombing. Islam and Muslims now became part of American culture.

A came a big wake up call and what the American public did not know, a game changer. The Khobar Towers bombing. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khobar_Towers_bombing up untill this point keep in mind the only significant US deaths had been in the 1983 Beirut bombings and they were, get this, called 241 U.S. peacekeepers. They were always peacekeepers, not troops, not soldiers, not servicemen or women, peacekeepers.

Following that we had the game change the September 11 attacks but remarkably Bush did not take a worldwide stance against Islam or Muslims. I had my uncle back in 1979 explain a lot to me about Islam and Muslims and I had felt it was the US against Islam, never will muslims change a word in their Koran or other writings of the prophet. IMHO, although I supported Bush I now feel he was a clown and may, may have actually been behind the planning for the 9/11 attacks. Just like the USS Maine in Havana Harbor was a worldwide game changer so has 9/11 been a game changer and the descendants of the same participants (the US political elite) are/have been involved then and now and so has the worldwide zionist federation hand in hand. Considering all of this, like the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, once you learn of it, it all fits into place.
The NWO is real just like GHWB said in 1996 we just didn't understand what the hell he was talking about, he never explained that part of it, what it meant, did he???

Marine Gen. P.X. Kelley (left) and Col. Tim Geraghty (right) take Vice President George H.W. Bush on a tour around the site of the Beirut barracks bombing two days after the explosion

Anyone remember when Muslims where called Baphometi, the moon goat demon worshipers?
(Baphomet = Mahomet in medieval latin)

I just call them "mudslimes," but that isn't normie-friendly. What's a good word to take their name from them? Islists? Muslists? Muists?

Eh? We just called them towel or rag heads.

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And here I was thinking they were called "Sand-niggers" or "Camel jockey".

Remember back in the 80s and 90s when dad an drew grandpa just called them sandnigger or dunecunes? Kek

That would be dad and grandpa.
Necking my faggot self now

I remember when I first saw Daesh being pushed as the real name for it but the thing is that's literally just the romanization of how you abbreviate it in Arabic. And those same words translate to the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria in English so calling it ISIS makes perfect sense in English. They just sound like a liberal douche (which they are) whenever they use the Arabic name in an English context. It's literally the same fucking thing in two different languages. The only purpose of it is to deny that it is an Islamic movement and therefore represents a large portion of what they believe.

I remember when a Paki friend of my mom told her that the real name of the group was Daesh and I shut that shit down real fast.

Nice info and perspective, user.
I'm much younger but also remember eye-rabs being at most talked about pre-9/11. Not muslim/islamic.

This is how it was presented, those Iranians who fled were secular. Which to most of the US population meant non religious.


Iran 1979: the Islamic revolution that shook the world. Americans thought at the time, this was form of Islam was contained within the borders of Iran, much like Soujh Korean does not infect South Korea or Vietnam or Thailand, etc The Bush wars has broken down that containment. In a way much like operating on a cancerous tumor and only having it not only infect every organ od the patient, but everyone in the operating room, and then hospital, then city the hospital was in.

This is the world we live in today

In books I've read from the 1700s, all Muslims were just called, "Turks." In particular, I recall this usage in Thomas Paine's "The Age of Reason."

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