Someone told politically incorrect opinions

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antifa aren't anarchists, they're just problem children

Only Holla Forums and antifa give a rat's ass about antifa.

Are you really so much of a bitch that these irrelevant shits scare you?

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Just look at that ancom flag

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good, fascists must be beaten, after all, thats what they preach

A lot of them are. It's by far the most popular leftist position in the West so it's not really surprising.

Joanna Plucinska (June 25, 2016). "Study: White Extremists More Dangerous Than Islamists Since 9/11". Time.

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anonek wykurwiaj xD

Liberals arnt leftist

Same goes for ancaps.

My point exactly, Liberals have a more dominant voice through feminism and BLM etc

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We're breaking the NAP and your nose bitch boi

You must be joking

I still dont follow how this makes liberals "the most popular leftist position" since they are in no way leftists

so what? far-right have to be beaten

I think they were implying "anarchism" is only popular because there's a ton of liberals LARPing as anarchists.

being a propertarian is a declaration of intention to violate NAP (property enforcement violates NAP)
so antifa is acting in self-defense
same with nationalists

Marxism is not the most popular tendency in the West. Do you interact with people?

So?

A spectre is haunting this thread, the spectre of the spooky as fuck OP.

Someone post the SMBC comic about the nazi and anti-nazi on the plane with the Liberal saying they can't tell the two apart.

they are too soft they should kill him and show skull in the town square

The only problems with that position is that:
1. Current antifa are soft as fuck jokes
2. Coppers will always protect fascists
3. 90% of state surveillance and active measures will go to anyone to the left of social democracy, 10% to the far right
4. People still have hope of a career or life so they won't risk going to jail

Pic very related

Only jews and golems like the antifa.

Otherwise (if you're a native) you're celebrating some sort of disease that destroys your own immune system.

Honestly I don't give a fuck. You can't endlessly talk shit about how you're going to kill all the nig-nogs and gas the jews, then be shocked and offended when someone responds with violence. When you spend your life advocating violence, you lose any sympathy I might have had for you as the victim of violence.

Other way around. They don't step in until antifa gets hurt. Look at the Sacramento fight. The cops didn't care that antifa was there with knives until they were pried form their broken arms and stabbed with them.

Sure thing

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proof? the UN literally wrote a paper on Holla Forums, I think they're far more concerned with reactionaries than they are with gommies.

that article was not made by the UN, it was made by a liberal university

when will we see a paper about the ebil brocialists over at leftypol? I want one tbh.

But ancap, these streets are the peoples property. On their property, they may do as they wish.

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Cool, come on down to Florida and try it. I love an opportunity to legally shoot a leftist :^)

What they fear is reactionary gommies.

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anti-antifa isb yb definition nothing but fascism

remove anti-antifa

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Antifas are violent bourgeois stooges, film at 11.

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When will the "Antifa are the REAL fascists!" meme end?


Every year the police force of each western government spends hundreds of thousands, if not upwards of a million, bending over backwards to provide police protection for gangs of Nazi's with criminal records a mile long to hide behind.

You can either play the innocent victim or you can play the tough guy, but you cant do both faggot.

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hahaha

Wow, haven't seen this meme in a while.

That is literally what nazis do

Which is precisely why violence against nazis is acceptable.

No, it isn't. People in this thread also seem to be under the delusion that antifas aren't violent over ridiculous idpol reasons, as well. That couldn't be further from the truth and it's downright shameful.

Violence against VIOLENT nazis is acceptable. Violence against harmless ideologues isn't.

fuck that. All Nazi's are acceptable targets

You're also acting like Nazism is the only target of violence rather than things Porky also wants attacked. That's cute.

Yeah man, like if we just sit down and talk to the Nazis we'll make them come over to our side!

fuck off liberal

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Checked em really good

kek. This I have to see.

It's never going to have an effect in the grand scheme of things, but I don't mind antifa beating a nazi to a bloody pulp tbh

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#YesAllMen

We don't have to, we just have to win the revolution.

and since Nazism is an obstacle and a threat to that revolution it needs to be eliminated

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Antifa might be dumb, but its great they beat up fascists. Also, they are against capitalism, so better than most people in that regard.

Leave antifa alone.

Larping faggot nazis will call antifa spineless cucks until they actually mobilize themselves, then they're violent leftist thugs. Antifa is sjw as fuck but at least they're not larping fashy goy retards like the alt right.

How? Because they go into the street with some homemade signs and chant empty slogans? They do nothing and affect nothing.

I'm okay with that.

Well, they should do the job properly, but you can't expect much from Anarchists. At least they are trying.

This is unhygienic.

If shit escalated, they'd probably join a revolution.

They may be idpol LARPers who don't know theory, but they REALLY like roleplaying.

Are you against capitalism? What are you doing to help?

The fact that they think in their heads that capitalism is bad and anarchism is better than capitalism is far, far better than most people on this planet.

LARPers would join the wrong side, Einstein.

I initially thought it was a joke, but Ukrainian Maidan actually had squads called "warriors of Narnia" acting as part of right-wing militia.

Argument status: Negative

What does this have to do with the price of fish?

In Stirnerspeak: thoroughly spooked people are easily controlled by the media (i.e. ruling class).

I'm having a hard time believing antifa would join fascists because the TV man told them to.

They will not "join fascists", they will "fight against the greater evil" and "use dumb fascists to fight even worse fascists".

Right, so because a bunch of gays fought the notoriously homophobic Russian state with the notoriously faggotry addled Nazis Antifa are going to rise up against the commies along with skinheads and capitalists because the neoliberal media is effectively mind control.

Xijn, you're truly a man before your time.

Nothing. But I don't pretend to be "making a difference" or some sort of "activist." Antifa thinks it affects the status quo, but they really have no effect, which is why the state allows them to exist at all. If they were really a threat to anyone's power, they'd be under constant attack and couldn't set foot outside their homes.

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Were they gays? I used them simply as an example of "de-ideologized" approach to Revolution.

Yes. LARPing Antifa might be useful in a peaceful period to keep LARPing Nazis somewhat suppressed, but Antifa during Revolution is a catastrophe waiting to happen.

Fascists don't need swastikas, nor Hitler worship, while Evil Stalinists during Revolution can and will use violence.

Kek, I just took a leap from their name being "Warriors of Narnia".

I suppose it boils down to PR, but word of mouth will work far more in the commies favour. In the UK a lot of antifa are working class anarchist/socialist holdouts, and the media don't have enough good will with the young to pull off such a move.

I'll buy it, when I see it. Infighting among the Left is practically mandatory during the Revolution.

And Antifa doesn't have their own program - you can't properly incorporate them into the Party, nor put them in charge - they are too amorphous. They will not decisively support Vanguard, because the amount of trust necessary for this is too great, and they might turn against it, when Vanguard becomes oppressive - Revolution is never pretty.

As is Antifa will unavoidably become a loose cannon.

There are at least two non-revisionist ML parties in UK that hate each other, no?

This would probably amount more to a chip shop brawl.

The UK establishment will probably never be overthrown. The public chug kool-aid like there's no tomorrow, I'd say it's just as much a lost cause as America at this point.

boohoo

yeah, because that's who they target. Instead of someone like you know, corrupt politicians.

Lol this. Only former polyps get triggered by antifa on this board. What's the matter couldn't be a neo nazi anymore because you found out your fat moms a jew

Poor you.

Anita are the children that r/anarchism masturbates to, when they need to comfort themselves at night.

Anita are edgelords with revolutionary delusions.

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Once again rightism proves itself to be the most cucked ideology on Earth.

Would that make them better than the working class? Tell me, do you support killing the working class/proleteriat that support liberals/conservatives and capitalism?

Or do you think that you edgelords with your antifa, throwing bricks at windows fantasies should be the only ones allowed to live?
Then you have your fights with other so called leftist "comrades", then you all betray one another to seize power and kill everyone else that doesn't accept your views.
It's no surprise that despite tankies, anarchists, marxists all hating capitalism and fascists, you would kill each other after the revolution.
Doesn't that make your end goal just a massive slaughter of the human race?

Yes, just keep thinking I'm from Holla Forums, since that spares you the cognitive dissonance that you're actually a bunch of thugs, yourselves.

They are teenage edgelords with violent fantasies.
No wonder why they can't get decent work or be accepted into society.

Aren't you a cuck for teenage edgelord anti-fascists that like beating up everyone they think is a "fascist"?

Doesn't this prove that marxists and anarchists are just murderous thieves who use bullshit ideology to justify murder and theft?

Some are, user. But nothing is ever that simple.

That's capitalists you're thinking of. Marxists generally want a society without murder and theft.

All impersonal market societies are ultimately based on theft, after all, and murder is how they open markets and prop up economies.

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I'm not against violence.
In fact, conflict is the most crucial part of humanities development.
In fact, I prefer conflict, hatred over empty peace and 'tolerance".

Me too, but it will be a feminist that writes it.

They are both anarchists and problem children. Still, beating fascists is not bad in itself. It is just not particularly useful.

so why o you give a fuck about antifa if you aren't Holla Forums? Its not like you need to pretend otherwise here

Because antifas don't just fucking stick to Nazis, they'll attack people over specious bullshit reasoning, too. Just because they beat up some people that probably DO need to get beat up does not make them great people.

lol no they fucking don't, this bullshit line of argument always gets trotted out by liberals and totally not fascists, but it never gets backed up

theyre literally funded by governments you fucking niggerfaggot

Who is "they"? Antifa isn't one organization. Literally anyone can start a group and slap the label on.

Okay.

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kek, fuck free speech

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MUH HORSHOE!!!!!

honestly fuck off
"fash being upset at antifa existing and being more succesfull then them"-threads are getting boring…

but that doesn't happen

Good.
If this complaint is coming from an "an"cap then he must have deserved it.

also the only good fascists/ red fascist are the dead ones.

Ayncrap kill yourself faggot.

support your local ANTIFA.