East-asia Holla Forums

Discuss politics and occurances of the Orient here.

Countries like China, the Koreas, Japan, and nearby smaller countries.

Topics to spark discussion;
Trump and China.
South Korea, USA, China.
Japan and the South China Sea disputes.

Will anyone else jump ship on the burger empire like the phlips?

vietnam is trying hard to get attention because they're getting hammered by china.

which is ironic that vietnam wants usa and wants capitalism which is what they fought against.

but in terms of South East Asia politics, I think China has countries like Laos and Cambodia in their pockets vetoing anything Vietnam wants.

So Vietnam is jumping onto the Burger ship.


South Korea is deciding to jump onto lifeboats.

They want the burger ship protection but they also don't want to mess up relations with China hence why the fiasco with the THAAD deployment.

You need to throw some more meat, a hypothesis.
Just
is a shit OP.

I'll remember that for the next OP I make.

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I've got a hypothesis with the expansion of Chinese students.

Each of these students are promised careers and they are focusing in areas such as engineering, especially automotive and petroleum.

It seems they are seeking to make a push for the automotive and energy/fuel generation like the Ford-Rockefeller era.

This is a huge market because of the rapidly rising middle classes in Asia and Africa and very likely we will see Chinese cars everywhere.

With this in mind, remember that various automotive companies such as Volvo and LTI have been bought by Chinese companies entirely and GM, VW and other companies are signing contracts with Chinese companies.


Does this spell a new era for vehicles?

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the "rapidly expanding middle class" of china is a myth. any growth in the chinese middle class is massively over-represented and does not nearly account for the constant explosion in production that is necessary to prop up the supermassive bubble that is the chinese economy.

there will be pictures of warehouses full of thousands of pristine untouched chinkshitmobiles that no one can, will or will want to buy, for the exact same reason that there are entire cities of derelict buildings with no foundation or infrastructure that no one wants to live in.

Who gives a shit about gooks? Nobody.

Right now focus should be on Europe and the ME that should have been glassed decades ago.

underestimating sommeone is the first step of losing.

nazis underestimated france and russia.
russia underestimated finland and afganistan.
usa underestimated the vietcong and mujahideen groups.


i'd watch the top gear documentary. in a span of 10 years, they went from making little shitty communist mopeds to reasonable and affordable vehicles.

Generals are cancer. Get this shit out.

technological development is not the issue with chinkshit, it's the incessant and ingrained corner-cutting that comes with a society and law system that encourages swindling and screwing over the consumer (and foreign producers) for the sake of making a quick buck. every industry in china has stories of people bootlegging and making the shittiest passable-looking product in order to steal away some money to feed themselves with. however this shit is handwaved because the handful of companies at the top that have cornered the very small part of the chinese market that both demand and can afford quality are pointed at as if they are the rule and not the exception.

sure chinkshit cars drive reasonably well at first and are dirt cheap, until you realise the engine block is made from pig iron and the suspension and brake pads are made out of plastic.

a there's a reason the chinks were able to undercut western manufacturers on every single inconsequential product where quality didn't matter past minor inconvenience. you can't just go out and buy a new car when your old one turns you into a mangled red pile on the side of the road because the driveshaft snapped 2 months after you bought it.

I think that's a stereotype and not always the case. One of Serpentza's videos covered this pretty well. I know it happens a lot more often.

I can't believe that it's sheer greed that makes all the companies go to China. They have to be doing something right to control factories and production.

On China. I lived there for a while and was just talking to one of my good friends there last night. The hammer dropped yesterday on a lot of shit and they are actually jailing a shit ton of corrupt government officials and assorted cronies over the past year. Macau is almost a ghost town these days given that all the corrupt mainland cash has been cutoff and a bunch of big wigs locked up. My buddy has been living there for 20 years and said the reckoning is finally upon us.

that's all they did right. in the 70s and 80s, china embraced the greed of capitalism while holding onto the institutional control of land and populace that only communism can provide. mao had created a wonderful race of ant people who will work for next to nothing, not care if their co-workers are ground to paste by their own machinery and are near infinitely replaceable. absolutely perfect for mass industrialization and generating massive wealth while not worrying about pesky stuff like regulation, worker safety or wages. ironically, china became an economic nightmare situation where workers couldn't negotiate anything because the state controlled both the unions and the businesses (as well as the military).

of course, this all worked out well for the card carrying bureaucrats and savvy business managers when manufacturing required significantly less education. but now that education is being demanded. those savvy businessmen (or the factory and port workers who by some stroke of luck or cleverness managed to survive a working career in china) are sending their kids off to western schools to learn how to do it right because they don't want THEIR kids getting ground to paste by a lathe or crushed flat under a pressing mill.

so are china's industrial standards and middle class growing? absolutely. but the paper tiger demands more growth than what this middle class can consume, and as such you will still see warehouses of chinkshit that will never sell.

I heard there was a massive crackdown wave by Xi, which is good.

By sheer greed I meant Western companies. Sorry I didn't clarify.

I know worker safety was pretty poor early on like the Victorian era machines, but has improved greatly recently.

The economic situation is unique. Pretty much any big company has links to the MSS, and a lot of CEOs and big shots were PLA veterans.

Whether that is a good or bad things is to be decided.

There's waves and waves of Chinese students arriving in the West. It's actually one of the most profitable ventures here.

Factories run by westerners are generally up to western standards, for the most part. There are plenty of indigenous factories as well as well as non-chinese Asians. Those are the worst. The products they sell to their domestic market are even worse than the crap that you find in walmart.

The way Chinese companies work is that year one a fan will have four screws holding it together. Year two it will have three. Year four the plastic will be a slightly shitter grade. And on and on until you get the absolute garbage products they sell today. They "penny shave" basically every part of production, the same as jews.

Another example. I worked in real estate and built multi million dollar houses there. These chink contractors think that it only has to LOOK like it does in the drawings. Meanwhile they will stuff literal garbage into window sills, door jambs, formwork etc. to use as a filler. They also fucked up all the staircases. To fix them they jack hammered them to the correct level leaving rebar exposed, compromising the entire reinforced concrete structure. These were flying staircases that they had jackhammered to less than 1/2" in places. They thought….hmmmm how to fix? So they just put a skim coat over it and called it a day. Needless to say we had them rip everything out and re-do it ($200k in work). But I found this behavior essentially everywhere. Sometimes it even made the news with that building that was missing major parts of it's foundation. There is a saying an old expat told me that stuck with me and rang true my entire half decade there: "Everything in China is a lie". Thats all you need to know about China.

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Commies want moonspeak. Moonspeakers want english. Tis there anything else to say? /shitpost

The left is the biggest internal threat to the West and China is the biggest external threat to the West.

Israel and muslims feed on our weakness, parasitic fucks. But it is the first two, the left and the PRC guv't, that stops us from using our full powers to see who's who.

Thats what that William Pierce guy never got ahold of.

So yeah, we are at war with fucking East Asia. China actually. It is time somebody starts saying it how it is, because already Merkel is metaphorically sucking off the Chairman's dong in an alleyway while we pay of her bills. And all the former little shitstains in the map, Duterte's Phillipines, Shinzo Abe's Japan, South America and others, are starting to see the West as a crumbling mess. Nobody takes us seriously. More migrants will come, to prey on our weakness. More foreign powers will try to fuck us up. It is time we take control of our nations.

FTFTY there is a massive automobile surplus and a vast number of ships are being laid up do to lack of cargo, of course it doesn't help that every shipowner wants a bigger ship which has made the cargo overcapacity problem significantly worse. There is a pretty major crises in shipping right now. And like you said Electronics are the next thing to go in the toilet. China is a bubble.

tfw Tianxia will be fulfilled

you really need to get ahold of your intelligence agencies. they are your key tool to control.

you have the CIA who is based on the OSS who were apparently leftist/communist and the FBI which is pro-american but not pro-right.

compare that to every other country. their intelligence agencies are loyal and rarely conflict.

you've got to cut the bureaucracy.

it was kissinger through nixon that made china this kind of threat.
remember.

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There's a vid on the jewtubes, which I think was actually made by chinks, of them visiting one of these lovely-looking (and deserted) new apartment blocks, and hitting the wall with a wooden stick, the whole thing just crumbles into sand.

Most of the big fish already migrated to Commonwealth countries (Canada, Australia, NZ, England) or Europe. The ones left are either too big to get caught, too poor to afford the get-out-of-jail free card, or too dumb to skip town.

usually dissidents, those corrupt, or not loyal run away.
if you don't fall in line, things like this occur:

rumor has it, one of his friends was a MSS agent and arranged for him to be arrested

unable to compete in established markets.
reviews by autoexpress and other reviews say it's a legit car.

there are already threads for this, and do you not see the irony of you image/


topkek

So it is the Chinese who censor us, creating thought crimes and have their Orks occuping us?

Sorry that is bullshit!

Jews have the USA under thight controll, as well the US vassals and colonies. Jews do promote the invasion of Arabs and Negros to the West. The Gulf Arabs have corupted western politicians and equal important western economy. Those Arabs promote the colonialisation of Europe by Muslims, Arabs and Negros, the Islamisation of the West. The Jews do applaud to it, celebrate it.

The Chinese know corruption very well and have used that to buy into western economy and politics, but they are latecomer. The Arabs do it since the 70's of the last century and the Jews since the 19th century, in some countries since the 16th-17th century.


I see a funny similarity to the end of communist East-Germany, when the regime abandoned by Moscow, sought an alliance with China. Nowadays, the former communist Merkel is seeking help from China after her regime was abandoned by Trump like East-Berlin was abandoned by Gorbatchev.

The crazy investments of western companies in China, essential building up their future competitors, can be explained by shortsighted decision making. Shorttime profit before longtime ruin.
I wouldn't rule out, I suspect there are many cases of corruption, massive payments to decision makers, crucial share owner, so those would act against their “own” companies and in the interest of China.

Fucking summerfags and their cancer.

Chinks are well known for torturing and eating dogs, even stealing them for owners sometimes.

Something to consider: dogs evolved alongside humans as companions and work animals.

A love and respect for dogs is ingrained into humanity, except for degenerates.

Chinks are basically inhuman.

The Chinese are starting to make inroads into the mass media of the United States. Last I checked there is a Chinese billionaire interested in buying up the majority of Hollywood movie studios. Production companies already film seperate scenes made specifically for chinese domestic audiences. This is a slow burning psychological war being waged on two fronts now, and it's been that way for the last few years.

Of course I'm not disagreeing with you. Spot on analysis.

China are just playing the waiting game, biding their time until the US collapses internally. They'll become a superpower without having to shed a drop of blood for the first time in history.

female, the post

The Japs shouldn't have been so nice to you.

Sorry but this is just jingoism bullshit
China produces a licensed copy of the Dodge Cummins 6BT diesel that is now imported into the US/Australia since Dodge ceased production and there is no noticeable quality difference when compared to US produced blocks

Post some good reading material for this region. I just started reading this and am really fucking enjoying it.

Anyone got any books about politics in Japan, or Korea? I am talking about recent stuff.

I can't understandd why japanese are such island grabbing faggots.They should stop contesting the islands rightfully belonging to SK and Russia.

I believe now that Trump has gotten rid of the TPP, we who are American have lost our ability to stop China from becoming a superpower. The TPP was designed to isolate China's economic power in the Asian regions, but now China and Japan are working to create a new trade agreement in Asia, but fighting to see who controls it. China can produce products cheaper than everyone else so their economy will reign supreme in the Asian region.

Japan and India are also trying to form an alliance to block China's maritime version of the One Belt One Road, which would have to pass through the Indian Ocean. This is definitely a good thread to have for monitoring Asia because they are definitely the major player right now and China will become a superpower to rival the United States in this century.

North Korea wouldn't be bad if they shifted their economic stance slightly rightward and weren't a bunch of fedora tippers

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Who cares about slanty eyed shitskins!

Does anyone have measures of average IQ of all east-asian countries and Chinese provinces?

Nope. The Chinese get all the benefits of TPP while they are secure in not being in that shitty EU-wannabe. Fucking waste of Hitler dubs

TPP excluded china. It was designed to weaken them economically.

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Why are so many Japanese dolichocephalic? All other Asian races have round faces widest at the cheeks, except for certain Japanese, who happen to be the most successful and attractive to them. They also have very light skin. The typical japs look like South East Asians. It is like there are multiple races in Japan, and one is dominant out of merit. The only non-Aryans that have this cranial shape are these Japs. Perhaps they are mixed blood, but I never see them with red hair or green eyes. Perhaps if they truly have Aryan blood, the mixture was so long ago that their traits stabilized, so the red hair and green eyes no longer appear.

Also, is Japan natsoc? Their system seems to resemble what the NSDAP instituted. Also, the freemasons/kikes have gotten Japan's immigrant population up to 3%, which they are viewing as a national crisis. They are having a movement to restore they're emperor. One of their major parties has a platform of restoring the emperor ie they may soon have a führer. It's interesting how much their national character resembles that of Germany. Japan is a natural ally, and 100% open to the ideas discussed here. Their parasite boomers are finally dying off and order is being restored. Countries that didn't have a counter-culture are all recovering now as their boomers die off. Things are going to be completely different in 10-20 years, contingent on the rate at which the boomers die off.

Japs really don't look much different than Koreans on average. There is a bit of Ainu influence in the north more usually and throughout. There's also probably some very distant Austronesian influence in the South, especially in the Ryukyu islands. This is seen strongly in Taiwanese natives. I've not noticed differences based upon possibly differing racial characteristics in Japanese people affecting their intelligence or success in life

It's clear with Hollywood pandering to China, there is a deliberate shift toward the East and buddying up to China.

The film influence and entertainment industry is booming.


The idea of cutting corners from my perspective just doesn't happen for me.

I think Serpentza covered this quite well, and it is a case of what you pay for is what you get.

There's no noticable quality difference if you do research and don't buy the cheapest quality item.


Read into the recent scandal in SK president.

Would recommend reading about the assassination of Inejiro Asanuma.


It was bad either way. The TPP would have paved way to having SEA flood the American economies, but piss off China.
The TPP in reality was neither bad nor good. It had good and bad.

It's clear with the TPP collapse, pressures on SK, Japan, and other regions near to China are under more pressure.

The New Silk road project will be a massive boost of money and influence to China and the connected countries such as the post soviet -stans, and Pakistan.


North Korea actually sits on a lot of resources.

If it wasn't for their ability to turn Seoul and other nearby cities to ashes, they would have been invaded already.

A unified Korea won't ever happen, but the logistics required to neutralise North Korea and install a Chinese puppet would be massive. Even a squad level mistake could end millions of civilian lives.


Check by province or area. There might be a consensus, but you may also have to scour Chinese social media and other sites like that.

I live in the capitol. My porch melted away during it's first rainy season. It was new at the time. Fortunately the building itself was much older. But don't listen to any 50 centers who tell you those problems are rare. It's fucking ubiquitous.

Bullshit. I worked in trademark enforcement for high-end beverage companies and the shit I've seen would actually curl your hair. Where you buy and how much you spend is genuinely irrelevant in every case I covered. Guomao high end grocer, fancy foreign hotel bar, shitty Sanlitun bar. All the same fucked up quality, all of it will melt your intestines. The Sanlitun stuff might melt your insides faster than the Guomao stuff, but none of it is real.

For example: I bought nice Korean milk from a Korean importer. It tasted fine and did all of the things milk should do when used in cooking. I bought fancy German milk from a Chinese importer at the same store and the German milk tasted fine, but in no way cooked properly. Same fat content. Same basic product. And the expensive one was fake.

We asians think Trump is a crazy moron. He is racist but the main point is craziness and stupidity. Nothing else.

Words to live by.

Cool I like this idea. I hope we have enough asian anons to do it periodically