Real Reasons Saudi's released a list with 13 demands that Qatar must obey in 10 days time. An ultimatum.
To anyone who doesn't know, the USA and Saudi Arabia have been the best of allies since the Nixon Shock, which backed the Dollar by Oil (thus the nickname "Petrodollar"), and forced every nation in the world to only Buy it with Dollars and to only Sell it with Dollars. Dissident voices such as Saddam Hussein of Iraq, Muammar Gaddafi of Libya and Iran tried to sell Oil by other means, not by Dollars, and were nuked. That's the real reasoning for it all. If the Dollar stopped being the hegemonic Oil-buying Currency, then its value would crash and the USA economy would collapse instantly overnight. That's why Iran is hated, Russia is hated, China is hated, etc, not only they don't like this whole Petrodollar thing (it ruins nations as it forces USA debt on them), but they want and actually have the power to overtop this system. Currently, just like Gaddafi was planning, Russia and China are proposing a Gold-backed International Banking System of Trade and that would be disastrous to the USA and partners. Now, I'm not a fan of Metalism (Gold, Silver, etc), as it is complete idiocy. The American System of Economics, created by Benjamin Franklin and laid out by Friederich List is the best option for the world by far. Not Debt Currency printed by Private Banks, but Credit Currency printed by the Government.
Now, let us see the demands: Real point. Real point. Not a real point, as the USA, Israel and Saudi Arabia also sponsor those groups too. This is a façade. Hypocrisy. Façade, hypocrisy. Façade Real reason. Al Jazeera is the biggest TV channel on the Arab-speaking world and it's currently pro-Iran, pro-Russia and pro-Qatar. Literal "Shut It Down". Façade, hypocrisy. GIVE ME SHEKELS Bend your knees to us, Vassal. Standard procedure to legitimize this by having real data. Shut. It. Down. The ultimatum. You'll be our dog in a leash again.
I expect a false-flag attack in saudi land over the coming days if the demands are not met.
Elijah Harris
Thread needs more discussion on the crypto-jews demands.
Adam Cook
Qatar is also jew and should fuck off no negotiation with traitors they takke it as a sign of weakness.
Landon Gutierrez
This is just comical. Two of the most wretched countries there are accusing each other>>10135927 of doing what they do themselves.>The American System of Economics, created by Benjamin Franklin and laid out by Friederich List is the best option for the world by far. Not Debt Currency printed by Private Banks, but Credit Currency printed by the Government. Explain.
Jordan Barnes
This is just comical. Two of the most wretched countries there are accusing each other of doing what they do themselves.
Explain.
totally fucked my post up for some reason, sorry.
Robert Young
I don't understand any of this shit.
Al-Jazeera is known to have had CIA influence. The Arabs really got pissed with them over their seeming support of the Muslim Brotherhood during the 'Arab Spring'. Again suggesting a CIA/State department link.
So now Al-Jazeera is supporting the Iranians? Have they gone rogue? Is that why Al Jazeera english was shut down?
Gavin Ortiz
Qatar is self sufficient with its own Oil and Gas, it never asked for gibs.
Gavin Johnson
Read "Web of Debt, by Ellen Brown". She lays out the history of such system and is a must read here on Holla Forums. There's a pdf on the General Thread of /pdfs/
Justin James
Al Jazeera is Qatari and follow Qatar's will. If then they supported A, now they can easily support B if Qatar's alignment change.
Parker Reed
Checked. Gas em
Cooper Collins
angry jew angry about being outjewed by other jew
Easton King
this is good, i hope they don't do it. I want to see sand jews kill other sand jews while america funds both sides, literally outjewing the global jews
Joshua Brown
I wonder (((who))) proposed this point. And it gets worse:
They might as well demand to annex them for "security" reasons or straight tell them to vassalize. Qatar may comply with a few of the demands but they will not dismantle a military base of a NATO member, shut down Al Jazeera, shut down all media outlets, pay reparations (?) and accept to be surveiled for the next 10 years. In fact, they will not comply because this is an humiliation. Tensions will keep growing and KSA will look weaker if they don't make Qatar their little bitch again, KSA will act all cocky and; either invade them, or keep isolating them. And Qatar doesn't seem so affected by the isolation, so war might be
John Nguyen
Essentially, they want Qatar to be a slave state.
Juan Ortiz
Qatar == Serbia Saudi Arabia == Austria-Hungary United States == German Empire
Parker Allen
Will do, thanks.
Evan Gonzalez
No, US and Qatar/Al-Jazeera are at odds. The Qataris do support several secret Muslim organisations like Al-Quedia or the Muslim brotherhood.. Al-Jazeera journalists are on the books for direct connection to terrorists. The US killed several Al-Jazeera journalists during Iraq war. Al-Jazeera reporting was always hostile torwards the USA and Saudi-Arabia, publishing lots of stuff those didn't wanted to be aired. During the color-revolutions Al-Jazeera and the US state department did cooperate to undermine several Arab regimes, most important of them Egypt.
They cooperated for different (and the same) reasons. The US wanted to have more pliable regimes, Qatar more islamic ones. One thing becoming more obvious now is how US government structures are undermined by Muslim agents like Brenan.
The demands are so extreme that one side is going to lose face. This looks like a veiled declaration of war.
I love how in these threads no one ever brings up the Clinton connection to Qatar.
This is very obvious new world shadow govt vs. old world shadow govt.
Joseph Davis
This post deserves more attention, I think. Interesting comparison here to the origins of WW1
Jayden Harris
Bonus: Qatar is one of the largest single shareholders in Deutsche Bank. Who would potentially want to hurt that big bad German bank?
Liam Cruz
That's why, funnily enough, Germany is against intervention there.
Dominic Morris
user, you're making it seem a lot more complicated than it is. AL Jezera(Arabic) was giving positive coverage to the "arab sring" bullshit to, which although ZOG media paid lip service to, they really didn't want anything to come of it either. That just needed to put a happy face on it "DEMOCRACY IS AFOOT IN THE MIDEAST!" Which no one needs or fucking wants,
There WW 1 analogy is interesting–or WOULD BE if the Saudis or Turks could fight worth a shit. Fuck, at this point, no one seem in any shape for fighting save the occasional suicide bomber clicking off.
The one chance of a major war getting started? Before Obongo left, you know he must have made male and female secret service agents have equal duties– which is fucking INSANE since basic exercise physiology dictates that males and females before differently or else males and males would compete in the same categories. These Jews are literally putting Pressure. Trump's life at risk under a program, he designed to take place after he left office.
Henry Ross
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Noah Perry
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Logan Garcia
Although that is not necessarily an outlier. Germany sort of objected to the Libya intervention in 2011. I think in 2003 France and Germany objected against the Iraq invasion.
Ian Smith
underrated post
Elijah Howard
Nope, this is more delicious. Could this be the end of proxy wars in the Middle East? I suppose Trump could pull out, but that still causes problems. Oh and I'm curious to see where the Kurds go, probably against Turkey.
This is such a clusterfuck and it's kinda appropriate that decades of proxy wars for the petrodollar crash the economy.
This may be THE happening. WW1 was started over a dumb reason, but WW3 may top it. WW4 could only top it by having Khazakstan fighting the Vatican City. This conflict seemingly came out of nowhere, and Qatar isn't a big player you hear about often. All the crap with muh Russia and THIS is what sets it off.
Well Kek I can't deny this timeline is far more interesting than the last one.
Oh and what is the likelihood of America and the west sitting out? After Iraq and Afghanistan there is no desire for war, no matter how much politicians bleet.
Jason Garcia
I hope they're stupid enough to choose war with Qatar.
Wasn't Deutsche Bank in financial trouble until recently?
This may've implications for the european (and global) economy. The welfare state's money source for rapefugees would've a drastic embezzlement.
Jaxon James
One of the most under-reported stories of late is that Barclays bank (one of the UK's biggest) is now being investigated for fraud. After the last financial collapse it organised for the Qataris to borrow money from the bank in order for them to then hand the money back to the bank to bail them out (illegal).
That was years ago but suddenly the Serious Fraud Office is now pressing charges. They probably want to seize Qatari foreign assets and this is the groundwork being laid.
Isaac Bennett
nobody posted this one yet? whats wrong with you people
People (r/The_Donald) here only like bombastic threads, and not ones that contradict their views. Now, there's little to discuss about it anyway, th thread may live only with influx of news.
Landon Howard
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Logan Powell
fuck off back to reddit subhuman
Henry Thompson
I may be way off the mark here, but pic related is in Qatar. Is SA trying to shut it down?
Caleb Peterson
OP made good points, but doesn't know shit about monetary policy. He also doesn't know that Franklin was one of the sketchiest founding fathers. That fucker was secretive, promoted vegetarianism, and engaged in general kikery.
Ryan Fisher
reminder that there are two days left before the ultimatum expires
Lucas Morris
Do we have any word from Qatar?
Matthew Smith
The more I look into this the more red flags are all over the place. You got desperate petrostates who hate each other, you got a significant US military presence, you got China and Iran conducting naval drills in the Strait of Hormuz, and you got your Saudi crown prince who Politico described as, I shit you not, a 'hothead.'
And it came out of fucking nowhere, much like other events that have happened in the current year and 1 CY.
Xavier Scott
Self sufficient as far as oil and money goes. With food that's a whole other issue. Within a week they needed food flown in from Iran.
Eli Long
Idiot, the AS built the world. Go look how Lincoln financed the war with Greenbacks or how Hitler uplifted Germany with Labour Treasure Certificates. That's the level of quality this board sank to, people who never read Gottfried Feder and still have Mises-Youtube-Libertarian stupidity implanted within.
This thread is now 8 days old. Will it happen on Monday?
Brayden Morales
It's a list of demands but it doesn't say what will happen if they're not met. Weak shit, in other words.
Christian Taylor
But not military defense.
Thomas Davis
Since when is Al-Quadia a secret organisation?
Nicholas Anderson
i already know what side im on in this one
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