GOP Health Care Bill Revealed

What are your overall thoughts? Will it actually pass this time? Or will the Freedom Caucus try and ruin everything again

If it removes the mandate its better than Oniggercare. I hope they were sensible enough to a bone or two to placate the Freedom Caucus. Other than that its probably still a budget busting mess that is the result of compromise and corruption.

I'd like more than a fact sheet to make a better assessment tbh.

Is this the same shit as ryancare? if so what the hell is Trump doing?

We'd be better off letting the industry implode and not purchasing healthcare at this point.

This reads like an actual good modification. Lot more state control, lot more leeway for how it can be deployed, and it doesn't totally fuck over the infirm and impoverished.

This is very different from the clusterfuck that was Ryancare, at least on it's face

this is all i ever wanted tbh

Same here. I don't give a fuck about the uninsurable, I just don't want to pay into a system that will never pay out for me.

I hope that. But these summaries tend to hide important stuff.

That's the real trouble. Need to read the full bill

I hope it's not another Ryancare

No, Ryancare included not only the individual mandate but nearly all the Obamacare taxes. Ryancare was a disaster and the Freedom Caucus was doing the public service for exposing it as a mock up of Obamacare (Obamacare 2.0).

This bill seems a lot less regulatory and more fiscally friendly (as in tax cuts).

It's not. This includes tax cuts and does NOT include an individual mandate.

What ever happened to simply FUCKING REPEALING the damn thing? I don't want it "fixed" I want or totally gone. If the nonwhites are given tax credits and even more fucking benefits and whites have to keep paying for them, then what good is it?

And extending Medicade? Holy shit are they insane?!

Jesus, this shit again. If they were serious about universal health care, they would cut out the insurance companies entirely and set up a fund to pay the hospitals directly. No middle man, no giving a slice of the pie to people who only want profit without doing work. They won't let it happen.

Four GOP senators are already against this: Ted Cruz, Rand Paul, Mike Lee and Ron Johnson

Where are McCain and his girlfriend on this? That'll be a good indicator of how not to feel about it.

Susan Collins is the key. If she sides with it that'll get the other establishment cucks in line. But fucking Rand yet again trying to sink everything.

Of fucking course

Do they not fucking get that if Obamacare is flat out taken away like that you leave millions uninsured? They do that they might as well give the 2018 midterms to the Democrats.

And just what the fuck do you think happened when obamacare was introduced and rates skyrocketed for millions? What a slap in the face it must have been to not only have your insurance plan pulled out of financial reach, but get a nice tax leveraged fine to add insult to injury? What were those currently insured people doing before the introduction of the bill? Don't be so myopic, these things aren't simplistic theoretical univariate issues, they're complex systems.

The bill is the best that can be done in terms of keeping healthcare from blowing the fuck out and going broke. It prevents a lot of the bullshit of Oniggercare but it isn't a complete R/R. Socialized health care isn't all that bad but there always needs to be a private option. You can have a little socialism but not full blown like how Ocare was. Shit Ocare was a straight up ponzzi scheme BY insurance companies to start with.

It's just a ruse to show their poor ass constituents that they still care about them. Cruz has a senate race coming up. They'll vote yes in the end.

Don't get me wrong, I want it just straight-up repealed too (except the extension for children and the preexisting conditions parts that everyone actually likes), but the problem is one of optics. Genie is already out of the bottle. If it's simply repealed and then we worry about the rest later, then that will put 20-some-million people on the street without healthcare. Yes, these are mostly going to be niggers who don't deserve it, but there are also people who use individual plans because employers specifically only higher them for >29hr/wk too, and other groups. And it doesn't actually MATTER that it's mostly niggers, because it's about optics. You'll never hear the end of it and how Drumpf is evil for kicking people to the curb, etc. It'd actually give the democrats something to rally behind instead of this empty MUH DRUMPF MUH RUSSIA shit. It wouldn't be good for Trump or anyone in the GOP to straight-up replace it.

Yes, it's complete bullshit. We should just be able to reverse this shit and go back to the way things were, but that's simply not how it works. In fact, Obongocare was specifically designed to fail, with the intention of its failure being a way to force the country into adopting single payer healthcare.

Who do you think those people are? They're the spics, niggers, and "refugees," that couldn't afford it and need to be paid to receive in the first place. They're not going to vote for anyone else but the democrats even if republicucks stalled for another year after the midterms.

Those millions are more likely to be really poor whites. They wouldn't bitch that much but elected officials get really nervous over ANYTHING that could cause them to lose an election, even if that something is lower class Americans losing insurance.

We're all in hard economic times right now, my dude. Why the hell do you think the rust belt voted for Trump? There are a lot of people hurting and trying to make ends meet. They're getting fucked over by Obamacare, but plenty of them were put on Obamacare plans due to how the market shifted after it was implemented. You can't just reverse everything to the way it was at the flick of your wrist, unfortunately.

I think ideally we need a plan to move back to the way things were, but just repealing and leaving everything up in the air will cause a period of chaos as everything "recalibrates"

Trump needs to have a sitdown with all four of them and tell them to knock it the fuck off and get with him.

I don't think republicans thought they had a chance this election cycle.

Get out.

The only thing I give a shit about is removing the mandate which it does. Nothing will the please the lolbergs, Koch Brothers will make sure of it.

But user! That specific law will kick millions off their healthcare and they will surely face a gruesome dealth from all their ailments they cant afford to be cured from!

Trump. Was pretty explicit before this went through the house that healthcare will be taken care of in 3 parts. Way i figure, he's unfucking what he can now, with the cucks that he has, till they get fucking primaried hard in '18 and then he can put in more work to make it a feasable and functionable system. At least, thats what the optimist in me whats to believe.

Because if it were a good plan that pushed in the insurance companies and lobbyists shit right the fuck in from the get go it would never see the light of day. You really think the GOP as a whole has the American peoples interest in heart or mind when it comes to these policies? Youre mistaken. And honestly its just short of a fucking miracle hes gotten it this far, as it was obvious from the Ryancare debacle these fucking snakes had zero interests in repealing nor replacing niggercare with something that works.

But now we're here and the senate will be taking a vote. They vote no, they look lkke a bunch of punk bitches that flip on their promises and get primaried. They vote yes, they still get primaried for being the weak cucks they are and because of the upcoming redistricting coming up that will put Ryan, McCain and other lifer traitors out on their asses once they cant gerrymander their fucking districts anymore.

Unfortunately, I think Trump likes to win by the rules.

I agree completely user but our enemies use this political cold war between the parties to never pass anything that could benefit the people, they only act bipartisan when serving themselves.

Bumping for relevancy. I also don't understand much about the healthcare issue but I try really fucking hard to and its nice when a thread gets made about it, as rare as it is.

Swampcare will shit everything up by saving the few remaining health insurance companies. Should've let them go bankrupt and forced everyone back to paying direct for medical services. The mooching boomers would be left to die. Trumpstein, of all options possible, shilled this shit. End the DOE, lying faggot. He promised half of public school teachers would be fired by now. Politics can not stop ZOG, only awareness and personal fortitude can.

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