Don't hate the person, hate the system
>Don't hate the person, hate the system
Individuals can`t be held accountable for systematic nor institutional failures. Only the leadership can be blamed for it.
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fuck off muke
I would rather consider myself as post-fascist authoritarian socialist with social democrat characteristics tbh.
so individuals are never responsible for their failures, the whole system is. everybody should change their ways to accommodate these individuals. got it.
What good does hating the person do?
Filling your soul with hatred will not make you happy, and hating an individual will not change the system. In fact, even hating the system won't change it. You have to calm your mind and take carefully considered actions towards a clear goal. That is the only way you will make the world a better place.
It's tru tho
Fucking leftists spouting their liberal shit
Its fucking true though. Why focus on hating the rich when you could destroy the system that produces it?
Why jerk off to the idea of putting 'bourgies and their families against the wall' when it has nothing to do with the system?
People may love to call out idpol as a distraction from class politics, and they are right, but then go on to circle jerk over taking the wealth rich people have, or killing them just for revenge.
You can do both
Great argument, dude ;)
"positive vibes" is facebook tier normalfag garbage that millenials love to spout.
fuck off back to normieville
It's impossible to overthrow the system when its in this evolved state so all we can do is wait for it to end and shitpost in the meantime.
If you think you know how to end it sooner, I would love to hear it.
But that's entirely consistent with socialist thinking OP
It's the liberals who put individual agency over social structures
So you are for idpol too?
Gotta fill yourself with that sweet sweet hatred towards the rich and reactionary to get anything done.
Yeah we should just ignore all the murder, slavery, and rape perpetrated by the ultra rich for their pleasure. After all, porky is a victim of capitalist dynamics too.
The idea dates back at least 2500 years, but yeah, it's all just facebook normalfag shit.
Have fun being angry.
There's certain rich that deserve torture even
Then there's certain upper middle class that don't - the ones who never truly believed in being an uber bourgeois asshole and just got lucky and they know it.
It's not about "positive vibes" it's about personal health and rationality. Anger is an unhealthy emotion, and has been linked to health problems like heart disease. You also can't make as rational decisions if you're experiencing a fit of passion.
This is stupid. Executing arbitrary punishments against people will only lead to the masses getting disillusioned with our movement. The revolution should have the moral high ground, not because of any spooks about morality, but because the masses will ultimately reject such if they know about it (and if they don't know about it that means you're having secret courts or vigilante justice, both of which can lead to authoritarianism).
Nice IdPol shitposting OP
Anger is an unhealthy emotion
According to who, liberal psychologists who want to turn everyone into complacent sheep? There are things in this world worth being angry about, but you wouldn't know. You think your blood pressure levels are more important than wage slavery and child prostitution rings and you think you're the one being rational lmao. Pure ideology.
Those of us who desire the destruction of power, the end of exploitation and domination, cannot let ourselves succumb to the rationalizations of the progressives, which only serve the interests of the rulers of the present. Having chosen to refuse our exploitation and domination, to take our lives as our own in struggle against the miserable reality that has been imposed on us, we inevitably confront an array of individuals, institutions and structures that stand in our way, actively opposing us — the state, capital, the rulers of this order and their loyal guard dogs, the various systems and institutions of control and exploitation. These are our enemies and it is only reasonable that we would hate them. It is the hatred of the slave for the master — or, more accurately, the hatred of the escaped slave for the laws, the cops, the “good citizens”, the courts and the institutions that seek to hunt her down and return him to the master. And as with the passions of our loves and friendships, this passionate hatred is also to be cultivated and made our own, its energy focused and directed into the development of our projects of revolt and destruction.
Desiring to be the creators of our own lives and relations, to live in a world in which all that imprisons our desires and suppresses our dreams has disappeared, we have an immense task before us: the destruction of the present social order. Hatred of the enemy — of the ruling order and all who willfully uphold it — is a tempestuous passion that can provide an energy for this task that we would do well to embrace. Anarchist insurrectionaries have a way of viewing life and a revolutionary project through which to focus this energy, so as to aim it with intelligence and strength. The logic of submission demands the suppression of all passions and their channeling into sentimentalized consumerism or rationalized ideologies of bigotry. The intelligence of revolt embraces all passions, finding in them not only mighty weapons for the battle against this order, but also the wonder and joy of a life lived to the full.
Jealousy is bad, just because you did win shit at the social and genetic lottery does not entitle you to anything. And communism? All equal eh? So that the polit-buro can live like kings while the people bust their ass in factories? How is that different? I know how you fucking slimy jews. You bunch of whining envious fucks.
Communism does not hold moral high ground over capitalism, NEVER WILL.
You think you're different? When the only thing you would bust your ass for is to TAKE from someone else.
Bunch of sick bastards. I fucking hate your kind.
hate the player not the game brah
not my fault i raped 12 kids
systematic and institutional failures =/= all failures
Anger is an unhealthy emotion, and has been linked to health problems like heart disease.
Go fuck yourself you blabbering moron.
The revolution should have the moral high ground
In a revolution terror is justice.
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Love believes everything—and yet is never deceived.Amazing! To believe nothing in order never to be deceived—this seems to make sense. For how would a man ever be able to deceive someone who believes nothing! But to believe everything and thereby, as it were, to throw oneself away, fair game for all deception and all deceivers, and yet precisely in this way to assure oneself infinitely against every deception: this is remarkable
The public is an idea, which would never have occurred to people in ancient times, for the people themselves en masse in corpora took steps in any active situation, and bore responsibility for each individual among them, and each individual had to personally, without fail, present himself and submit his decision immediately to approval or disapproval. When first a clever society makes concrete reality into nothing, then the Media creates that abstraction, "the public," which is filled with unreal individuals, who are never united nor can they ever unite simultaneously in a single situation or organization, yet still stick together as a whole. The public is a body, more numerous than the people which compose it, but this body can never be shown, indeed it can never have only a single representation, because it is an abstraction. Yet this public becomes larger, the more the times become passionless and reflective and destroy concrete reality; this whole, the public, soon embraces everything. . . .
Virtuous terror. Love builds up. Read a book.
that idealization of the past, tho
people born into a particular system don't conform to it at all
You can't be a marxist and hate the bourgeois. They play a particular role in history and they are practically guaranteed to play that role. Vast majority of people behave in the same way given the same circumstances.
leftypol generally only cares about rape when the porky is involved tho. I remember there was a thread on here a little while ago about how feminism is counter-revolutionary because rape is a necessary part of the revolutionary process and women should just accept it.
y'all have no moral high-ground
Well, the essay is filled with invalid idealization of the past but this particular part I think is at least accurate. Plus, it's not to say they're any more or less sinful. The conclusion of the article is that ancient times were more sinful, but at least those people truly lived.
You think your blood pressure levels are more important than wage slavery and child prostitution rings
Well yes, actually. It's not that I don't want to end that kind of stuff, it's just that getting all pissed off about it isn't gonna help anyone. Also,
Attacking the ideology of people who do the science instead of the science itself
Sounds like you're the one with the case of pure ideology there friendo.
Terror against the rich won't bring back all of the lives they have destroyed, and will only cause the masses to turn on us. It's stupid as fuck, and essentially boils down to "muh feels."
Being angry about problems doesn't help you solve them. You seem to be under the impression that caring about a problem is the same as being filled with blinding rage, but it isn't. You should care about the suffering caused by capitalism, but you shouldn't let your judgment be clouded by anger and violent fantasies.
If these problems had simple solutions they'd have been solved already. Anger evolved as an emotional response which primes us for physical combat. It makes us better at fighting, but worse at sitting down and patiently thinking through an intellectual problem. Solving world hunger or child prostitution will be helped just as much by anger as solving a differential equation would be.
You don't ignore it, you destroy the capitalist system. Obviously you punish those responsible for crimes. Or is it just enough to make it illegal to be rich? Will that fix the system?
Don't hate Muke, hate Trotskyism.
Jesus Christ anarchists, why are you always so fucking edgy and cringey?
Why are you so angry? Tell me about your mother.
Anger is my neurotype.
My mother was a whore, but I loved her very much.
Terror against the rich won't bring back all of the lives they have destroyed, and will only cause the masses to turn on us.
Who said anything about the "rich"? Revolutionary terror is against the ancient regime and those who want to bring it back, that is class enemies. The reasons for terror aren't (a)moral but strategic and political: consolidation of class power, and the dissolution of the law in favor of justice, reaffirming the sovereignty of people against the coercive violence of the law.
It's stupid as fuck, and essentially boils down to "muh feels."
You are an ignorant moralist fuck, who keeps posting Stirner. You are under multiple layers of self-mocking irony without realizing.
I love her too.
Don't hate the person, hate the spooks that formed them
My mother was a whore, but I loved her very much.
Her cheap perfume reminds me of a time when I was carefree
Everyone is a whore in capitalism.
Most leftists today do not support the establishment of a centralized bureaucratic state with the power to appropriate surplus value and direct economic forces through direct coercion.
Instead, we are concerned with ending the institutions of private property and production for profit. Together, these two things result in exploitation, stifled innovation, crisis and economic depression. In a way, you could think of us as people who want capitalism but without the bad part.
Furthermore, it is in fact the bourgeoisie that only take without contributing. Wealth - use values - toothbrushes, gold, cutlery - is created entirely by workers who generate it through human labour. In some cases, people who are in a position of ownership were able to do so by providing some innovation, but the fact of the matter is that this does not hold for every bourgy, and furthermore, while people should be compensated for intellectual contribution, this compensation should be just that, compensation, not the right to infinitely exploit the labour of others for the rest of history.
The nature of capital accumulation has it that the great majority of people, of countries, will not benefit from technological increases in productivity that already in the 19th century could have brought such abundance that Marx could see communism coming about in his very lifetime. However, as technological productivity grows higher and higher, we, the great many who sell work for a living, become poorer in the transaction. The way we treat intellectual work practically ensures that the greatest strides and innovations benefit as few people as possible.
This is not a question of morality. Capitalism is woefully inefficient and self-destructive. If your politics were not based on feels and your woman-like emotions, you would realize this handily. We know why and where it fails because we have studied it, we know how to fix it. The solution is called socialism.
Hatred is praxis.
He posted the guy who's a great example of what's bad about hatred
fuck off liberal
for once a socdem is right on something
But Che is bad.
To the bone B)
Literally kill yourself