Tfw I've just hit peak brocialism

have I created leftypol's ideal leftist org?

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finallyfeminism101.wordpress.com/2007/03/23/faq-what-is-sexual-objectification/
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_during_the_occupation_of_Germany
apa.org/pi/women/programs/girls/report.aspx
plato.stanford.edu/entries/feminism-objectification/
youtube.com/watch?v=o2dQojRHX9Q
ted.com/talks/toni_mac_the_laws_that_sex_workers_really_want?language=en
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meant

You are going to get fucking kiked. A rape charge, a false racial comment, a grope. Be ready.

kek our group already got dragged through the mud last year for making posters that linked mental illness with capitalism. before my time but eh.

Great work, OP

I wish I was there I'll tell you that much

I have seen the same thing. Tell me? do these girls all fit the category of "daddy's money"?

Eat their sweet jewish femdom asses and enjoy your victory you earned it traitor

did you sieze the means of production?

Sounds like you still need to recruit some qt leftist grills, but otherwise I'm jealous.

Is this wrong?

Some tips for growing your group more:

Collab with other clubs - eg do a movie night with the films club and get them to watch Perverts Guide to Ideology with you.

Do more debates if you feel you have members knowledgeable and confident enough.

Convince all your members to bring along their friends who may not even be into politics just to try it out, making sure to let them know it dosnt matter if they have nothing to contribute to discussion, which seems to be the main worry people have when I tell them about my Marxist group. People seem to assume it's a bunch of philosopher kings sitting around discussing deep political theory, and only those worthy can join them. When you do get people who know nothing about politics to come, they will stay if they have fun, actually learning isn't the priority at the very start, so that's worth keeping in mind.

Keep up the good work comrade and good luck.

What the fuck is it? Has our society previously bred this trait in? Should we just treat women as poorly as men and welcome those that can take it with open arms?

Woman are a fucking disaster, there is no point denying they will fuck everything up, they are extremely selfish and need, so when taken out of traditional roles this is a time bomb.

hi /r9k/

you really want to create a club full of insufferable faggots who think they know film huh

fuck off muke

Please no. I have never known any ideologically dedicated leftist females. They tend to be the idipol socdem cancer who are really not sure about wanting communism.

Is this where we say that it's ironic for you to say it's unimportant if someone has anything to contribute since that would require… reading?

kick all the nonwhites out idpol has a chance of manifesting lol

Get them to read actual Marxist and socialists feminists. bell hooks is an easy read and hits on all the shit liberals say they care about but don't actually do anything to fix.

No, that's /tg/.

GTFO he's trying to avoid cancer

Better yet, leave the feminist shit out of it, and talk about how to seize the means of production.

What a cringeworthy thread. I wish all of you college kiddies would fuck off.

Sorry for being smarter than you, user.

Sorta yeah

The lolberterian also wrote for reason magazine

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100% confirmed carcinogen.

what college

if I told you I would no longer be an anonymous hero

what region

Virginia

Very nice

dont bully your comrades.

Can you explain why a socialist who explains why the structure of society oppresses all people is cancer?

Wait, you've actually been able to eliminate idpol and SJWs from your socialist group?

You absolute fucking legend.

t. Bell Hooks

Yeah nah, fuck off

kek I guess I'd have to kick out myself then

Holla Forums hates everything, but you are doing God's work, comrade.

Please post regular updates.

Can I site you as my token non-white friend?

Yes. Be sure to use MLA format.

Thanks man. Now all I need is a tranny and my collection is complete.

You realize you're making my point, right? bell hooks is a feminist, socialist, etc. The shitty bourgeois feminism that does't address a system of oppression is only presented as feminism by the media because the media desires the system's continued proliferation.

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As the other user said, like a lot of academia "anti-capitalists" she's only socialist in the sense that she's opposed to capitalism as an extension of the "patriarchy"

If she really held sincere socialist beliefs, why does she blame the supposed failure to understand feminist politics on patriarchal mass media instead of capitalist mass media?

Because they're not mutually exclusive and the base and superstructure aren't disconnected, but more importantly she explicitly condemns the capitalist mode of production multiple times in the book and talks about how capitalism perpetuates sexism, racism, etc.

Does she believe in the sexual objectification meme?

He's just triggered because Bell Hooks is a black woman and therefore ever mentioning racism and/or sexism is idpol. Were she a white man, she could talk about those things and be a NUMALE CUCK, but at least not be talking about MUH IDENTITY in the context of POLITICS.

I can't help but notice half of those books are written by Jews.

Gotta catch them all!

WEW LADDIE

no man don't you know everybody loves being a tit-ninja?

youtube.com/watch?v=coNQAucXoNM

To regard someone else as an object of sexual desire is to humanize them. Sexual objectification is an incoherent nonsense concept.

No, but some men like looking at tit ninjas. And there's nothing wrong with that.

Desiring someone sexually isn't sexual objectification.

Seriously, is the meme that nobody on leftypol reads actually true?

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so? how based of them i guess?

Desiring or appreciating someone purely for their sexual attractiveness, is essentially what feminists regard as sexual objectification. It is clear that what underlies the entire concept, is that appreciating someone for their sexual attractiveness is somehow inferior to appreciating someone for their intellectual or other attributes. And that is clearly bullshit, probably inherited from christianity's view on sexuality.

Of course, many feminists will offor other definitions when asked, but it is pretty clear that that is what is meant. Nine times out of ten, when you hear feminists complain about sexual objectification, it will be them whining about some attractive woman in attractive attire in some form media, such as a movie, TV show or video game. Indeed, that's pretty much the entirety of modern feminist media criticism. A bunch of ugly woman complaining about attractive women being shown in media.

This. I've heard feminists complain about "European beauty standards". Like they can't fathom that the reason white women are considered the most attractive is simply because they are. They think some pig-nosed black girl is really just as pretty as Britney spears or something but it's just the media that tricks us into believing one is ugly and one is not.

Or you can read what non-bougie feminists say.

The fact that you can't recognize the difference between sexually desiring somebody and what you just said is either proof that you don't read or that you're a troll.

FREE THE MAN BOOTY

Of course it's true, leftypol is full of ex Holla Forumstards and Holla Forumstards, they still have a habit of being against something they actually know nothing about and misusing terms(see "idpol") to wave away anything they dont like or anything that makes them unconfortable.

This whole discussion is why feminism is utterly worthless. Feminists will spend a million hours debating the nuances of exactly how men are allowed to express their sexuality before they'll take 5 minutes to discuss how to liberate humanity from capitalism.

Holla Forums started off as a refreshingly intellectual place for actual leftists, but it's gradually been co-opted by the same cancerous identarians who have ruined every leftist board on reddit. Give it another year and there'll be regular threads about how triggering and excellent the latest video games are and how the left must unite to make sure more women become hedge fund managers and CEOs.

Peak brocialism alright, faggot.

whatever the fuck did we do to alienate them? they just never showed up

You have a habit of dismissing any views you disagree with on Holla Forums as being the result of people here being formerly from Holla Forums or Holla Forums without actually making any argument. You seem to be projecting.

Also, I was never a Holla Forumstard and I've never frequented Holla Forums, yet I agree with the anti-identitarian stance of most on this board.

Unfortunately there aren't exactly many of those around any more and those that there are are generally no longer considered feminists. I feel like sometimes people forget that when most people are talking about feminism they are talking about "actually existing western world feminism right now" and the relevance of other groups of women's rights talky people to that particular kind of feminism is minimal.

Not that guy but how the fuck can people not tell the difference between sexually desiring an actual object (picture, statue, videogame etc) and a person? I don't think since i was five years old i treated people the same way as i've treated the teenage mutant ninja turtles, why is there this assumption that mindless objects must be held to a standard related to real life people?

This is fucking gold right here. The very fact that corporate feminism a la Sheryl Sandberg's "Lean In" exists is a counterexample to those who say that being against the "patriarchy" is tautological to being against capitalism.

Tiqqun critiques this feminism indirectly through its "Raw Materials Towards a Theory of the Young-Girl." It is a collection of aphorisms that demonstrate how the capitalist Spectacle recuperated Marxist feminism by demonstrating the weaknesses of grassroots movements in the age of the Spectacle; it does this by listing the shortcomings of Italian Autonomia and Operaio, a sort of translation into praxis of Deleuze and Guattari's Anti-Oedipus, a sort of revolution as enjoyment, fulfillment of desire. What most sociologists forget is that women in the current symbolic order are split subjects, which allows them to survive as either revolutionary subjects or commodities par excellence in Capitalism as it caters to them as perfectly satisfiable consumers.

More info on the Tiqqun-feminist spat here:
rienfleche.tumblr.com/post/112590713166.


The point is, it doesn't have to in order for its logic to survive; it can point to its pseudomeritocratic nature of how some individual minorities, racial or sexual, are able to engage in primitive accumulation at the expense of those in their racial or sexual in-group (and coincidentally hide it procedurally to maintain the simulation of meritocracy) and use that as its justification that it isn't racist or sexist. Capitalist exploitation is universal.

BTFO'd by based dubs and trips


Truly this is an epic thread

Anfem confirmed for kotaku/gawker-tier SJW

washington and lee?

fuck man I can't afford that shit

then it's richmond

Nope. Although there's a guy in our club who transferred from there.

i guess your anonymity will be preserved then

thank you user. But are those seriously the only two virginia schools you can name? those aren't even the most obvious guesses

Yes.

William and Mary

Truly, males are superior.

:^)

now you act like a fucking gamergater or SJW

no boi booty for you

nice buzzwords bro

instrumentality: the treatment of a person as a tool for the objectifier's purposes;
denial of autonomy: the treatment of a person as lacking in autonomy and self-determination;
inertness: the treatment of a person as lacking in agency, and perhaps also in activity;
fungibility: the treatment of a person as interchangeable with other objects;
violability: the treatment of a person as lacking in boundary-integrity;
ownership: the treatment of a person as something that is owned by another (can be bought or sold);
denial of subjectivity: the treatment of a person as something whose experiences and feelings (if any) need not be taken into account.


reduction to body: the treatment of a person as identified with their body, or body parts;
reduction to appearance: the treatment of a person primarily in terms of how they look, or how they appear to the senses;
silencing: the treatment of a person as if they are silent, lacking the capacity to speak.

Go be Anita somewhere else.

so you're saying you have fantasies of being a sentient sexdoll

wow stunning critical analysis

epic troll 10/10

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I swear, he is like Holla Forums's Spiderman.

Let me know when about half of rap videos are like this:

youtube.com/watch?v=x4iBBfEHNaE

fuck you and fuck OP's literal boys' club

Where do you live? I want to engage in theoretical discourse with you while I fuck your ass gently. The winner will be the one who makes the other cum first :^)

kill yourself

Yeah, only boys talk about economics. Sisters know that the real revolution is cultural.

Please leave and do the world a favor.
>>>/suicide/

Your "stunning critical analysis" consists of spamming the thread with lame snark.

Anfem can't take the heat, go back to reddit

So, you're saying that you demand more Spiderman, because he is such a sexually objectifiable male?

hAHaha yea bro why the fuck would anyone want BITCHES in their leftist organizations they can't think LOGICALLY like us men so it's up to US to decide politics for them! btw im an egalitarian

You forgot your flag.

Oh, my bad!

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Cultural Marxists warned us about this
WE DIDN'T LISTEN TO YOU ADORNO WE ARE SORRY

Feminists still can't explain what is wrong with so called sexual objectification. In literally any debate they engage about this subject they always get BTFO hard. (see an example here finallyfeminism101.wordpress.com/2007/03/23/faq-what-is-sexual-objectification/ in the comments section) The only thing i get from this, is that feminists hate male sexuality and want to regulate it out of existence.

By that I mean THERE IS NO ESCAPE FROM THIS WORSE GANGSTER BRO STATE, USING ALL OF THE DEADLY GANGSTER FRANKENSTEIN CONTROLZ. IN 🍀🍀🍀current year🍀🍀🍀 LEFTYPOL GANGSTER BROCIALISTS BEAT ME BLOODILY, DRAGGED ME IN CHAINS from KENNEDY N.Y. AIRPORT. SINCE THEN I HIDE in FORCED JOBLESS POVERTY, ISOLATED ALONE in this LOW DEADLY MENTOWN OLD HOUSE. THE BRAZEN, DEADLY GANGSTER POLPOT AND PATRIARCH PUPPET UNDERLINGS SPRAY ME WITH POISON NERVE GAS from AUTOMOBILE EXHAUSTS AND EVEN FART RAPE, DEADLY ASSAULTS. EVEN IN MY YARD, WITH WORDS, worse than BRICKS and STONES, EVEN DEADLY VR TOUCH TRIGGERS, or ELECTRIC SHOCK “FLASH LITE” EVEN REMOTE ELECTRONICALLY CONTROLLED AROUND CORNERS TRAJECTION of DEADLY TOUCH TARANTULA SPIDERS, or EVEN BLOODY MURDER “ACCIDENTS” TO SHUT ME UP FOREVER WITH A “SNEAK UNDETECTABLE EXTERMINATION”, EVEN WITH TRAINED PUPPET PARROT ASSASSINS, IN MAXIMUM SECURITY INSANITY PRISON FOR WRITING THESE UNFORGIVABLE, TRUTHFUL LETTERS. UNTIL MY “UNDETECTABLE EXTERMINATION”, I, HIRSTORY hooks STRONGWOMYN, ESQUIRE, 29 MAPLE AVENUE, HEMPSTEAD, N.Y. I STAND ALONE AGAINST YOUR MAD DEADLY WORLD-WIDE CONSPIRATORIAL GANGSTER COMPUTER GAY BROCIALISM WITH WALL to WALL DEADLY GANGSTER PROTECTION, LIFE LONG SWORN CONSPIRATORS MURDER INCORPORATED ORGANIZED CRIME, THE POLPOTLICE AND JUDGES, the DEADLY SNEAK PARROTING PUPPET GAMERGAYS USING ALL THE GANGSTER DEADLY FRANKENSTEIN CONTROLS. THESE HANGMAN ROPE SNEAK DEADLY 🍀🍀🍀GINGERS🍀🍀🍀, THE JUDGES AND THE BROLICE trick-trap, rob, wreck, butcher, and murder the people to keep them TERRORIZED IN GANGSTER FRANKENSTEIN EARPHONE PODCAST SLAVERY for the MANARCHIST GANGSTER GOVERNMENT and CON ARTIST PARROTING PUPPET GANGSTER PLAY BOY SCUM ON TOP. THE SECRET WORK of ALL BROLICE in ORDER to MAINTAIN A MANARCHIST CLOSED SOCIETY. The same world-wide mad deadly BROCIALIST GANGSTER COMPUTER GOD that CONTROLS YOU AS A TERRORIZED GANGSTER FRANKENSTEIN EARPHONE POLPODCAST SEX SLAVE, PARROTING PUPPET. YOU ARE A TERRORIZED MEMBER of the “MASTER RACE”, WORLD-WIDE EIGHT BILLION EYE-SIGHT TELEVISION CAMERA GUINEA PIG BROCIALIST GANGSTER COMPUTER GOD “MASTER RACE.” YOUR LIVING THINKING MAD, DEADLY WORLD-WIDE BROCIALIST GANGSTER COMPUTER GOD SECRET OVER-ALL PLAN: WORLD-WIDE LIVING DEATH FRANKENSTEIN PATRIARCHY to EXPLORE AND CONTROL THE ENTIRE UNIVERSE. With the ENDLESS “STAIRWAY TO THE STARS.” Namely the MAN MADE INSIDE-OUT PLANETS with NUCLEONIC POWERED SPEEDS MUCH FASTER THAN THE SPEED OF LIGHT. LOOK UP AND SEE THE GANGSTER COMPUTER GOD CONCOCTED NEW FAKE STARRY SKY. THE WORLD-WIDE COMPLETELY CONTROLLED DEADLY DEGENERATIVE CLIMATE AND ATMOSPHERE. THROUGH THE NEW WORLD ROUND TRANSLUCENT EXOTIC GASEOUS ENVELOPE AKA FARTRAPE, WHICH the WORLD-WIDE BROCIALIST GANGSTER COMPUTER GOD MANIPULATES THROUGH CUNTLESS EXACTLY POSITIONED SATELLITES, THE NEW FAKE, PHONY STARS IN THE SYNTHETIC “SKY”. FOR AGES BEFORE FRANKENSTEIN CONTROLS, APOIDIC MENS, INTERBREEDABLE WITH APES HAD NO FEELING, NOT EVEN IN THE BOYPUSSY. SLAVERY CONSPIRACY OVER 9000 YEARS AGO, IDEAL TINY BRAIN APOIDIC GAYMER GANGSTER GOVERNMENT EYESIGHT T.V. GANGSTER SPY CAMERAS. C. GOD “NEW WORLD ORDER” DEGENERATION with “GIFTED” with ALL GANGSTER FRANKENSTEIN CONTROLS BRO DEADLY GANGSTER PARROTING PUPPET OR BRO BRAIN PROGRAMMED MENBOTS DEADLY APE FRANKENSTEIN MACHINES, DEGENERATIVE DISEASE TO ETERNAL FRANKENSTEIN GAYTRIARCHY, OVER-ALL PLAN through “ONE WORLD MANARCHISM” (top secret code word), meaning WORLD-WIDE ABSOLUTELY HELPLESS AND HOPELESS SIMPLE LANGUAGE MONGREL GAMER APOIDIC DUDEBROS. Worldwide SYSTEMATIC INSTANT-PLASTIC SURGERY BUTCHERY MURDER, “FAKE AGING”, SO ALL PEOPLE ARE DEAD OR USELESS BY AGE 70. DONE AT NITE TO YOU AS A FRANKENSTEIN SLAVE. PARROTING PUPPET DRUNKEN PEASANT, NOW, EVEN YOU KNOW I AM A MENACE to your world-wide mad deadly COMMANIST GAYMER COMPUTER GOD, THEREFORE, I MUST GO TO EXTERMINATION. BEFORE I AM EXTERMINATED BY THIS GANGSTER, COMPUTER GOD CONCOCTED AND CONTROLLED WORSE MANSWORLD ORGANIZED CRIME MURDER INCORPORATED GANGSTER COMMANIST GOVERNMENT, I HAND YOU THE SECRETS TO SAVE THE ENTIRE HUMAN RACE, AND THE ENTIRE UNIVERSE. DONATE MONEY OR EVEN AN EERILY REALISTIC MANUAL DILDO TO MY PATREON, FOR YOUR ONLY HOPE FOR A FUTURE.

Wait, what?

Is this really something to aspire to?
lol, you hit peak insecurity tbh

You dont live near a big Kurdish diaspora do you? Because otherwise you could go to the next KCK affiliated group and meet dedicated females.

dedicated to my cock, maybe

The Left hates conspiracy theory, you'll find out about this soon enough.

You think Kurds want other races coming over to fuck their woman?

I thought Islam was against homos.
Any way kys bug catcher.

it doesnt though

Gee whiz, why are these pesky Feminists so reluctant to just embrace Communism?!

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_during_the_occupation_of_Germany

Bartky explains that, typically, objectification involves two persons, one who objectifies and one who is objectified. (This is also the idea of objectification put forward by Kant as well as by MacKinnon and Dworkin.) However, as Bartky points out, objectifier and objectified can be one and the same person. Women in patriarchal societies feel constantly watched by men, much like the prisoners of the Panopticon (model prison proposed by Bentham), and they feel the need to look sensually pleasing to men (Bartky 1990, 65). According to Bartky: “In the regime of institutionalised heterosexuality woman must make herself ‘object and prey’ for the man. … Woman lives her body as seen by another, by an anonymous patriarchal Other” (Bartky 1990, 73). This leads women to objectify their own persons. Bartky argues that the woman “[takes] toward her own person the attitude of the man. She will then take erotic satisfaction in her physical self, revelling in her body as a beautiful object to be gazed at and decorated”. Such an attitude is called ‘narcissism’, which is defined by Bartky as the infatuation with one's bodily being (Bartky 1990, 131–2).

In being infatuated with their bodily beings, Bartky argues that women learn to see and treat themselves as objects to be gazed at and decorated, they learn to see themselves as though from the outside. Narcissism, as Simone de Beauvoir also points out, “consists in the setting up of the ego as a double ‘stranger’” (Beauvoir 1961, 375). The adolescent girl “becomes an object and she sees herself as an object; she discovers this new aspect of her being with surprise: it seems to her that she has been doubled; instead of coinciding exactly with herself, she now begins to exist outside” (Beauvoir 1961, 316) (See the entry on Simone de Beauvoir.) However, this ‘stranger’ who inhabits women's consciousness, Bartky writes, is hardly a stranger; it is, rather, the woman's own self (Bartky 1993, 134).

Furthermore;

apa.org/pi/women/programs/girls/report.aspx

Wow completelely factually compelling HARD EVIDENCE!!!!!!!! How will Feminism ever recover!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

nice

here is sauce for you:

plato.stanford.edu/entries/feminism-objectification/

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sounds spooky as all fuck

good to know he's actually right.

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wew

So, question, why is it only sexual gratification that leads to objectification? Why isn't it any sort of manual work for ostensible profit?


Sexual qualifier aside, does that not literally describe the situation in capitalism?

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not an argument

Oh, okay. Lived experiences are not a good basis for an argument, but literally dismissing lived experiences with "I don't think so" is legit. k.

t.you right now

No. Prostitution is the only form of Capitalism that literally involves taking strangers' dicks. You cannot compare working in a box factory or being a coal miner to having dicks in your ass for money. The level of daily humiliation and degradation is not the same. 'Humiliation' and 'degradation' are in themselves fetish categories for porn.


The argument in that image is based on a false premise. Just because humans are objects that exist in space does not mean that they are without will or thought or action. You are missing the point entirely.

My family fled from a Communist country and my grandfather was almost executed by firing squad.

A damn shame

Edgy, maybe my grandmother would have been forced into prostitution to feed my infant father! xD

A question of quality is not a question of quantity, user is right. That's not to say the process and reasons of objectification isn't different (I don't have my foot in either camp here), but it's absolutely true that the worker is objectified.

Hopefully your father would have died as an infant.

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And Tito was my grandfather :^)

If you can't handle the bantz then you can kindly leave.

Sorry SJWs but this isn't your safe space :^)

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we should have a Holla Forums approved kit to start your local brocialist organization

Yes, absolutely, I have not only been paid for sex work but have also worked in the food industry. The difference is workers aren't made into SEXUAL objects. They are able to sue against sexual harassment. The proposed Antipornography Civil Rights Ordinance would have allowed women whose rights were violated while shooting pornography to sue the exact same way, but of course it never passed because MUH FREEDOM.

This is a good documentary about being a porn star: youtube.com/watch?v=o2dQojRHX9Q


WORKERS UNITE!!!!!!!!!1111 xD

FUGGIN REBISIONISM AMIRITE XD

I count only three

I don't know what you're saying here. There's plenty of prostitution, especially underage prostitution, in communist countries.

Not an argument


The first step is to get rid of those who divide the working class, such as yourself.

Precisely why talking about this subject with Communists is important.

true
also true


So what? I'm objectified by strangers at my job all day. Why is sex work special just because cocks are involved?

Because…?

Sounds like you're dismissing lived experience bucko.

So what?


They aren't made into objects at all, so what sort of metaphysical transformation is at work here?

That's bad I guess, but I don't see how the abridgement of this particular right is any different than all of the other rights of which workers are deprived.

Is an immigrant child forced to pick tobacco to the point of tobacco sickness worse off than a prostitute? Are "high class" escorts less exploited than their street walking cousins? What about male prostitutes? If he's giving the D to some broad that bought it, is he still having his humanity degraded?

Once one gets over old spooks born out of Victorian era and cultural Christianity prostitution is just another job and sex is nothing sacred.

Ah yes, don't forget to eliminate anyone who mentions racism too! We all know we have to eliminate all forms of idpol before the glorious Brocialist Revolution can take place!

Those "communist countries" had capitalist economies.

Exactly, anyone who promotes any sort of racism will be shown the door.

I'm glad we're on the same page user.

That's my thinking pretty much. It really just seems like a bunch of spiritual bullshit.

What else would you expect from liberals user?

If it is just another job, then let it be regulated like any other job. Let the workers sue when they are threatened with no pay if they don't do something that wasn't contractually agreed upon.

Kek

Not if the prostitute gets AIDs :)


Yes.


If he would not have had sex with her if not for the money, then yes, absolutely.

yes
I would rather it be their local representative of their prostitution syndicate that does the suing but sure

No argument against that, it should be legalized and regulated worldwide like it already has been in my country.

Do you live in a country which it is illegal and unregulated?

I live in the United States.

Most sex workers actually support Decriminalization as opposed to Legalization.

ted.com/talks/toni_mac_the_laws_that_sex_workers_really_want?language=en

Sure would be nice if there was some sort of international worker's movement that wasn't hostile to this discussion!!!

What did they mean by this?

join a fucking trot group if that's what you want

I consider that to be foolish as legalization would provide more protection and less danger of the sex workers, but I guess decriminalization would keep it more profitable due to the more risks than if it was legalised.

I haven't read Trotsky yet.


Well the argument is that legalization actually results in two markets, one being an unsafe and unregulated "black market".

Which makes a difference….why?

Really makes one ponder….

As someone from a place which prostitution is legal I have not really noticed any black market for prostitution however I have not really looked for it to be completely honest and don't doubt the possibility that a small one might exist somewhere. However I still don't think that should get in the way of the fact that legalisation does provide a safer more protected market for sex workers where as the alternative of decriminalization leads to the continuation of a much more unsafe (when compared to the legal model) sole black market in which it is much harder to place protections for the health and well-being of sex workers.

Then it ain't ideal faggot. I don't like liberal idpol because it's ineffective but we should get women involved because more people is good and I'd rather fuck women than men.

There probably is, and it's probably for sex with kids below the age of consent. As long as something is illegal you're going to see some form of black market spring up for it.

Oh and apparently kiddy diddling is big in burgerland around sporting events, particularly burgerball.

Fuck that sounds like paradise OP. And here I'm stuck maintaining a dumpy progressive activism group treading carefully to radicalize them further.

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This thread confirms that feminists are majorly spooked when it comes to sex and sexuality.

Is anyone even surprised anymore?

youtube.com/watch?v=dyX8-lFqBIc#t=585

for anfem

brb getting an abortion, a tattoo, some piercings, and dying my armpit hair

This is the dumbest fucking argument I've ever seen

Anfems confirmed for Young-Girl lifestylists.

Tiqqun was right about you, from the corporate feminists to the lifestylist Riot Grrl punks. You are nothing if not totally recuperated by the system.

Feminism never was a revolutionary perspective, deal with it.

explains why you're an edgy liberal

I swear this is the leftypol equivalent of almost raped.

tbh I'm not sure why anyone would want your "communism." I'd prefer to stick with socdems rather than take my chances with tanktardos given a choice between the two. The fact that more men are partial to marxism-daddy-worship-ism is unsurprising and proof of male inferiority.

similar story actually. I dunno why this is hard to believe for ppl here. whether or not you believe it was justified, there's no denying soviets wall'd a lot of people and a lot of families fled.

I had a communist uncle who was arrested and tortured by a centrist one party state.

rrrrrreeeeeEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

STOP RUINING MY FLAG YOU DIRTY REACTIONARY.

what state was that?

Mexico

it's another "communism is a boys only club because that's anti-idpol" thread

There are plenty of us girl posters here that aren't insufferable.

tbh I'm not sure why anyone would want women getting involved with them politically

I generally like that leftypol doesn't get so hung up on language-policing, but every once in a while they really take this anti-idpol shit too far. This thread is a prime example.

historia completa por favor

"Ironic brocialism becomes serious shitposting" threads are pretty common.

aww gee I'm not getting any Yous :( teehee

Daily reminder if feminists had been pushed out of OWS you'd be living in a better world right now.

just r9k leaking

There's nothing wrong in itself with the OP. He seems to be just making an ironic joke about the composition of his group. He's not actively chasing women away. The thread only goes south with tankie vs. anarchofem at and .

That's what I mean. It's not serious it's just the autists who ruin it.

I did it when I was homeless at 17/18 and it's actually not that bad. I lived better sucking cock and taking it up the ass than I did for most of my 20s with a normal job, if somewhat intermittently. Felt more empowered and appreciated as well. Saw a lot of movies, slept in a lot of nice beds and ate a lot of nice food.

Developed a kind of fetish for hairy middle aged ugly dudes in the process though. Not sure how I'm supposed to feel about that, but it sure makes it easy to get laid now.

Feminists are like furries. They are useless drama factories that turn everything they touch to shit.

I've never heard feminists compared to furries, but I've heard furries compared to pol. Could there be some kind of holy trinity? There's an overlap with bronies in there too.

What drives these groups? Could we find the catalyst that creates them and inject it into the ruling class? Literal weaponized autism.

You don't look at porn do you, user?

Feminists still haven't explained how the concept of sexual objectification ist spooked as fuck.

Well why should "we"? Objectivizing a sex is definitely spooked as fuck since sex doesn't exist in the first place; it is merely masturbation with a partner.

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Most men are what one would call obsessive. They search endlessly for something in the world to complete them, because they know unconsciously that they are castrated, though they repress this consciously. Of course, no object (job, woman, car, &c.) is going to actually "complete" them or give them the sense of wholeness that they're seeking, so they become bored once they actually achieve whatever they wanted and move onto something else. Most women are hysterics. They want to become the phallus for the man and constantly make him prove himself. This is why there is no sexual relation—to quote, "Inasmuch as I love you, I love another."

In what way does masturbation exist?

Want to find out? ;3

Castrated in what sense? And is there a solution?

Third wave man hating lesbians please go

In the Freudian sense. Someone or something else who gets in the way of the eternally happy union between child and mother, interdiction between opposition and obligation, and other examples among but not limited to that way infantile sexuality is conceived can be termed castration.
Therapy. Fucking, probably.


I do not belong to any particular wave of feminism, maybe nth; I am not a misandrist, and think that semen is particularly delicious; I am also not a lesbian, if that wasn't clear from the last bit.

What is brocialism, even? Do only feminist use it to denouce nonfeminist socialist?

It's a reddit term, I think, used exactly like you say, that we should reclaim thoroughly. I've used it a few times ironically because, as should be obvious, it gets some people's panties in a wad, and I think that's just swell, makes me very happy.

By "we should reclaim thoroughly" I mean that really no one should be afraid to be called a brocialist, or one could just be proud of being "brocialist," i dunno, whatever.

It's a slur for socialists that don't support identity politics or are otherwise accused of "class essentialism."

WEW

BROllective BROwnership of the means of BROduction.

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