Overwatch General

He's just Torbjorn's turret without Torbjorn. The only unique thing about him is his ult, seeing as Tornjorn doesn't have a tank in his pocket. He brings nothing new barring his ult and just serves as a magnet for wandering Reinhardts looking for a pal to shield.

I'll take instalock autocannons over Bastion any day.

Go play Pony Island then, it seems more your speed.

I honestly don't know if you'll be able to read this unless it's in braille you blind fuck.

The only people that have a problem with him are people that are booty blasted over not being able to handle it. You might as well say symmetra is just another tolbjorn, too, if you're too blind to see the differences.

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So only one complaint can exist at a time? Hate to break it to you user but you might be retarded. I'm glad that you're wrong and that I don't think Symmetra is a Torbjorn clone because I'd hate to be as dumb as you're being right now.

I'd rather take Bastion over Torbjorn. Killing a player is meaningful but destroying a turret is almost useless when Torbjorn can just shit out another one due to his five second cooldown.

Mate that you honestly can't see the differences is really outstanding. Now I might be a little groggy since it's 1am here, but I'm pretty sure tolbjorn's turret can't walk, self repair, or have a lower damage mode that lets it move around. You call me retarded but I really think you're just putting your own problems on others. Keep trying though. I sure you'll have a legit reason one day and not just hyperbole.
Well it would be hyperbole if you weren't dead serious about it.

Didn't Torbjorn have to use scrap to build turrets a while back?

Also they might be instalock, but they're also dumb. They'll feed into zarya's shields, or focus on a deflecting genji or tracer or basically do what dumb AI do. And bastion's turret mode is good for dealing with reinhardt's shield with its insane DPS. Also a tolbjorn needs to babysit their turret if they don't want it to be destroyed, while a bastion can repair itself. In fact molten core adds armor and dps, while tank adds armor, mobility, and an explosion vs a stream of bullets.

I really can't see how someone can say one's basically the other when the only linking factor is that they both are turrets at one point or another.

I fucking hate hanamura and I fucking hate how people still can't comprehend how short range, low damage characters don't fucking work against turret spam.

There is very little difference between the two. They play the exact same role and function the same way.

And a bastion won't be.

Did you miss the part about my original post being about bastion offering nothing new outside of his ult? I can only assume so seeing as you keep making a point to pretend this is about me being assmad over a Bastion killing me.

Besides reinforcing the two being near the same, the only point you make here is that their ults are different. Which, surprise surprise, is exactly what I've been saying.

And user you might as well say symmetra is another tolbjorn clone then because if all you see is "is a turret" then it's lost cause.
Also you're completely ignoring the recon mode.

Let's try this a different way, then. How do you see that they're similar?

user, if you can't gather enough information on why I think Bastion is Torbjorn's turret in hero form from what I've already posted, then I'll just be wasting my time and yours by keeping this argument up.

I'm asking why you see them as similar. You've been pretty vocal about it so far so I figured this would be an easy thing for you to answer. Please stop avoiding the question.

Yeah he did. During that time Bastion and Torbjorn filled different niches. Torbjorn's turrets were the powerful area denial that Bastion fulfills today. You took care of it by focusing it down. Bastion back then was a little different. You didn't want to focus him down because on top of his health, he had a 1000HP barrier like the kind Reinhardt has. His weakness wasn't focus fire but flanking instead due to his inability to aim outside a 90 degree view.

The turret's not that great a feeder to Zarya's shield considering it only does something like 56DPS. That's only 25 or so charge at most that'll quickly dissipate. Likewise targeting a deflecting Genji isn't that big of a deal considering his primary fire has higher DPS anyway and redirecting those shots back into the turret doesn't actually work as well as deflecting Bastion because the turret doesn't actually deal enough damage to kill itself within the deflect window and Genji can't abuse his speed and mobility to make himself harder to hit against a turret that never misses.

was this on console? i hear torb stacking on console is a pain. never see more than one torb at a time on PC in any serious game.

No, this was on PC. I just seem to get put with the people so stupid they should be on console.

damn son. that….that is terrible. i am so sorry.

Oh I know: i've spent enough time dying thinking that I can finish off a turret through deflection and running past them while doing whatever as zarya. They were just the first examples in my head that I could see a human player not just firing on blindly.

Tolberones turret is good for dealing with flankers, but Bastion can actually shred through tanks. Reinhardt facing his turrets general direction makes it pointless pretty much.

Meanwhile one of the ways to counter Bastion is to play a flanker.

Yes, but he could also build it up to rank 3. It made destroying his turrets much more punishing, but a fully upgraded one could push peoples shit in. Granted this was also before heroes like Junkrat were added which would be much more of an issue.

I want to fuck these three qts

So are the PTR changes going live today or do you think we'll be waiting another week or more?

It's always a Tuesday.

Would jack's stand be called Gorillaz?

They've been downloading in the background of my launcher all day. They'll be good to go tomorrow/later today assuming something horrible doesn't happen.

Wrong opinions

Seems a bit early to me but it wouldnt be the first time blizzard rushed something

I keep wanting to hate mei because of her annoying freezing and survivability, but cute chinese girls are my weakness and I hatemyslef for burning 500g on her AFTER the 1k for her yeti hunter skin.

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Mei is the best

I never found her too annoying, but I rarely play flankers anyways. She's not exactly a threat to Pharah or Reinhardt.

I never really had to deal with that in competitive, are you still doing Quickplay?

roadhog and mei otp

Will overwatch ever get a pirated version with bots?

I'l never play it anyway, at least would try it out.

fuck off with fat shit Mei
Fat on women is not acceptable, also she's an annoying chinese WHORE
Hog is the good kind of fat.

here you go.

Maybe it's for the better that you never play the game
Or any other games for that matter

huh, I doubted user for a sec

a.pomf.cat/yxztzl.mp3
It's just her low health breath sound but feel free to ignore that.

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There's a surprising amount of it.
Honestly I would want to see Zarya and Roadhog together, since they work well as a team in-game. Or Zarya and Zenyatta hatefucking.

isn't it 40$
and 60$ on consoles

Do they at least get all the skins the $60 goy edition gives on PC? Because if not I genuinely feel bad for them.

yeah, origins edition is the only one on amazon
i was going to order it alongside battleborn but 60$?
i've yet to buy a 60$ game since switching to PS4 and overwatch is not going to be my first

Mei is way too fat

Well you'll be happy to know that most of her fat art is just artist interpretation. She's just a chubby (actually chubby, not tumblr landwhale chubby) titty monster. You can even see it in-game with how the belt on her coat pulls in. She's got at least a decent figure under all that coat.

One does not have thighs that large without being a landwhale. Simple as that.

I meant in the art

Her neck is very thin doubt she's a landwhale.

They also probably can't freeze themselves and others, and also create ice walls like that. Sorry, man, she's just not fat. She's chubby at best.
Also it's not impossible. Mei-beMaybe she won the genetic lottery.

Ah, yeah that mei is outstandingly fat. Like harpoon-levels. But looking at the artist's stuff that seems to be his/her thing. That and dickgirls.

boy round these parts we call that ass T H I C C

This isn't tumblr/blacktwitter, you degenerate.

Look at the picture, but carefully.

I feel like tonight is the night of full retard teammates or something, every single match I've played bar one has had people doing and saying just the stupidest shit.

Don't buy it from Battle.net dummy
I got my copy from cdkeys for 30

i hate digital copies, i hate digital copies and i will never not hate digital copies
isn't the origins edition the only one on consoles though

Then you are a faggot and will never not be a faggot. You want to spend 20-30 dollars for some worthless plastic clutter, go ahead.

i like having boxes, they signify ownership. plus you can sell them back and get ~50% if they're bad (xenoblade x), or use them again if you get banned or whatever.

also in most cases retail are far cheaper than digital copies, though i dunno if there's a ps4 equivalent of G2A

there's your problem
you were a faggot all along and always will be

Stop complaining about high prices of games if you arent even using the superior platform

at least i can play bloodborne and gravity rush …. user …….

ps4 games retail are generally half or 75% of steam's regular prices tho

here we go again with the
Enjoy your 3 yearly exclusives when PC hogs majority of the titles every month

And you just bragged about selling back physical copies yet now brag about the games being cheap
Also, what kind of retard buys games from steam, especially for maximum retail price, everybody who's not underage and smart enough buys their games for more than half the price from sites like cdkeys, gamers toilet and g2a, consoles don't have that privilege

It's like you're a special kind of normalfag
I bet you're a vegan as well?

ps4 lineup has been poor so far but 2016 is incredible.
still, it's not bad if you count all the jap games that are vita / PS4 dual release

and yeah i usually buy older games for 20-30$ a piece bc a lot of console gaming to catch up on
selling back is useful when you buy a game close to launch and it turns out bad (xenoblade x) or nintendo games because their prices never drop

ironically i actually use to be

Ive not played in a few weeks and probably wont be for awhile longer since I got games to keep my occupied

but I bring you more tumblr

I thought trans people can't give birth? Isn't Phara suppose to be Ana's biological daughter.

actual canon and simple biological fact does nothing to deter these creep's headcanons

facts and reality mean nothing to these people. it doesnt matter that ana amari is a biological female who gave birth, naturally, to a biologically female daughter. in their heads, she's trans, because that's their personal "team" to root for, and everything they like has to be what they want it to be.

they are mentally damaged, and probably deserve to be purged and i say this as a therapist

How do I be not shit? How do I counter-pick?

How do you deal with gimmicky "ALL X CLASS" teams?

I bought Overwatch to play with my girlfriend and I just get so fucking infuriated after like half an hour of playing because I get Q'd by a dude in a 1v1 and there's nothing i can do to stop them. It also feels like in a game it's always one-sided. Either I'm winning hard or losing hard.

offense heroes tend to get shut down by defense or tank heroes. reinhardt will wreck tracer in 2 hits if she has no shield buff or armor buff from symmetra/torb, and winston can just look in her general direction while being close to her and zap her to death.

zarya and d.va have a bit more trouble on tracer, but do well in their own way against other offense heroes, with both having the ability to mitigate or shutdown enemy ults with their normal abilities (shields for zarya, D matrix for d.va).

roadhog is a solid pick if you can chain > shoot > melee well; one user describes playing him as a trapdoor spider. find a little side corner/nest, poke out when someone gets near, snag them, pigdick in their face, then move back in to heal. rinse and repeat.

defense heroes in general do well to break up concerted pushes and can be a solid shutdown on a variety of people. a well-timed sniper shot or hanzo arrow will take out a reaper who slows himself when he ults, preventing a lot of damage, and junkrat or torb provide a shitton of area denial. mei works great as a protector/team splitter with her freeze and wall combo, and can use her ult + meicicle to shut down a lot of plays.

support tends to be pretty self-explanatory; just keep playing them to git gud with them, although treat symmetra more like a sneakier version of torb. torb will use his turret to cover a point, or the flank of a point. symmetra uses her turrets for area denial or alarm/harass for flankers, so she knows to move in to that area to take them out with her blue beam of doom.

turrets/bastion are countered by pharah/junkrat/snipers. reaper is a strong offense counter to a tank, since he has 250 life, high damage close range attacks, and a get out of jail free card with his wraith walk. lucio is a solid support to learn the game with in general, and maps in particular, since he allows you to be helpful while also giving a lot of freedom to move around.

stacking pharah or junkrat tends to work against most common team stacks. it doesn't matter how great your 6xdad team is, or your torb dorf fort, or whatever the fuck it is you do. 2x JR and/or 2x pharah shitting explosions everywhere will fuck up most team stacks with ease. plus the counter to them tends to be snipers and mid-range offense heroes like mcree or dad, and those types of heroes are much more easily countered by a more balanced team setup than other stack-happy heroes.

also git gud

but seriously, it's 90% just about practice yo.

i wish there were more soldiers in the game, just well rounded characters who on paper look mediocre but when you play all their strengths together actually stand out more than you would expect for how fluid they are. im very sad that theyre fucking over his gun spread, ill have to rely on helix rockets even more to take out genji, tracer and widowmaker (and ana too i suppose).

buhuhuh, i fucking wish torbs turret could mow ass like that. i rather miss the tf2 sentry. in most cases id rather have torb as well though since turrets are so easy to kill, at least the swede will be able to throw another one up and has a pretty substantial weapon on his own.

he sure can, but while hes doing that hes usually at an extreme risk, meaning that theres not often a wide window for him to do tank busting. meanwhile junkrat can just rain hell on their huge hitboxes all of the day.
i dont even think we will see increase bastion usage once everyone starts playing dva again since she will have a faster ult charge and theres no reason for her to engage except on her own terms.

Tracer can just blink ONCE away from winston and kill him from outside of his range. At best he can drop his shield, but it only lasts a few seconds and he still has to get out of it to damage her.

Zarya and Roadhog have the best chance against Tracer. Roadhog is one hook dead unless the latency is fucking you Zarya has long range, AOE damage, or Hitscan within tracers effective range. Even D.Va is better since her effective range is equal to Tracer's and she has all armor to drastically reduce tracers damage.

I understand logic means nothing to tumblr, but how do these shitty headcanons even get started?

If you have enough money to afford a PS4 you have enough money to make a decent PC.
Although I agree you shouldn't have to pay 40$ bucks just to try a videogame and not even having the option of refunding it, I took a gamble and luckily it payed off but it could have as well not have.

I get what you mean about the soldier class, but at the same time that means as soon as you get good enough the other classes become essentially pointless, since everything they can do you can do-perhaps not as well but 'good enough'.
It's a design philosophy that kills class based games, and has done so for TF2 to an extent.

On the other hand, it's frustrating playing a class that caps out and you know you'll never make as big an impact as you could simply because you're locked into predefined roles.

yeah, but winston makes tracer get away from him, and that's a win in and of itself.

plus winston can pursue with his rocket jump if he needs to. as long as the winston is smart and doesn't give tracer any clear LoS on him for her to unload while his barrier is down, he can shut her down completely.

having said that, i still prefer JR as a tracer counter than i do winston. one grenade with a mine to execute her works wonders, and bear trap is bae if you place it near the medkits you know she'll be running off to use when she's nearly dead. but if you need a tank, and tracer is being a bitch, then winston isn't a bad choice on most maps.

of course, this is also dependent on the rest of the enemy team comp.

that may be true, im just annoyed becuase i always feel like i need to be prepared to deal with or assist in every situation, while the specialists often have no answer to something and only have a window of effectiveness which as the fight develops which may abruptly shut when some ult takes your team mates by surprise, as well as being easier to play around when youre the mvp.
really id just like for more characters to be able to operate a bit better outside of their specialization. roles are a fun mechanic but sometimes the game feels more like pokemon than tf2

I'm pretty sure every woman who becomes a grandmother has never been butch in her life, let anone a tranny or lesbian. Ana's got no grandchildren, but she comes off as a grandmother due to her age. She's far more likely to be ara-ara than a tranny just because of her age and being a mother. Being a tranny would also be completely irrelevant to her character since she's a career soldier. Being a tranny is exclusively a civilian thing, and can hamper one's abilities more than being weighed down by equipment.

Junkrat: Long range characters and Pharah, as well as flankers due to his playstyle making players focus on spamming grenades at chokepoints.

It sickens me that this kind of shit is what they care about the most.
Is it not enough that she's a Support Sniper, something fairly rare in most games?
That her entire purpose in life is to protect those she cares about, which ties perfectly with her gameplay?
Or that her gun is actually Mercy's technology applied in an Offensive way that Mercy didn't even aprove of?
Or that she disgraced the organization she server and that her daughter loved, failing her as an idol?

I mean, most characters aren't even anything special and Ana is only slightly above that. It's a neat story, nothing too amazing, but still.
There's already plenty of cool details about her, why would anyone obcess over a few extra inches of meat she might or might not have between her legs?

It just reminds of of the whole "Samus is trans" bullshit, completely ignoring how "half-woman" was used because the other half was Chozo. It's not enough that she's a famous bounty hunter in space, that her exploits are legendary to some and terrific to others, that she uses technology from an extinct race and is the only survivor of an attack on her colony. Gotta make her "trans" so the struggle is real!

They either just have very low self esteem or they actually know the shitstorm this kind of shit invokes and do it for the atention-whoring.

maybe they should try forcing the loli agenda

she looks only mildly perturbed at the arrow piercing her skull

So how many shit Ana players do you expect to see when the patch drops? Personally I'm probably going to play D.Va as much as I can get away with, but I've already got a bit of experience with her live and on PTR.

Ana, being a sniper, is going to draw the absolute worst of people who think they are hot shit.

all of them.

it will be a shit fest for the first day or two at least. everyone will want to play as ara-ara, claim they are being support, do less healing than a bastion self-repairing in a corner somewhere, and spend the entire game missing shots from a distance while zen/mercy/lucio attempt to cap the point/move the payload.

meanwhile, the enemy team will have a double duo of winstons who have perfect long range accuracy and timing when it comes to landing and staggering their jumps so that there is always one of them awake and frying ana. the enemy widow will constantly countersnipe them with flawless accuracy because none of these ana players will have any situational awareness at all.

its going to be hilarious. and yes, im revving my d.va up as well. i havent had a chance to play her much lately, because any time i do, my team ends up getting stomped and i need to switch to something else (usually JR) in order to counter whatever bullshit we are facing (because the two snipers can't be fucked to do anything aside from being useless).

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but the enemy ana will be shutting your pharah and reaper down while her ult always seems to be up to crack out her ulting genji who is being healed by their zenyatta under the grenades heal buff as well and is the only thing able to kill you but its all they ever need.

whats your malfunction?

Normalfaggotry.

She does 90 as DOT. It takes 3 seconds for her to kill anybody, by that time Pharah will have completely unloaded

You forgot about the sleep dart

loli a shit

You are your own worst enemy and I'm a fucking mirror

You've got the heals and move backwards, its 200% move speed, 300 heals per second.

You can also buff him with Ana and Lucio speed if you really want to go fast. Zoomyatta is go.

I posted that before watching the video. It should still be titled "more like zoomyatta"

Ah, so I did. Still though,
Alternate fire weapon damage increased from 35 to 40
Orb of Discord and Orb of Harmony

Projectile speed has been increased from 30 to 120

This is gonna be one hell of a time, I'm ready to pass into the Iris.

>Primary fire weapon damage decreased from 45 to 40

Too bad they reverted the 50% mercy damage boost though. 30% is crap.

I saw that, but who doesn't use rapid fire anal beads anyway?

More like who DOES. The alt fire was dogshit. Even with the damage being equal it's still extremely niche.

Lower sustained damage but higher burst. It's good for peeking or killing enemies with no awareness before they realize you're deleting them from the game.

Problem is it doesn't combine well with Discord orb. If the enemy is in cover (or you are, same thing) discord falls off, if they are in line of sight might as well shoot them instead of charging up.

It does enough damage to kill most heros without discord.

Technically all snipers are support character since they hang back and take out high value targets as opposed capturing points and being of the front line. Though a long range Healer is a pretty neat concept Even if I don't understand it.

Wouldn't Loli Toblerone just be Gaige from Borderlands?

Damn it cuckmonkey fix quick reply

Shit, meant to spoiler the image.

I'm looking forward to giving him a shot once the new patch hits. Even before I knew I wanted to play this game, when Blizzard first showed him off, I thought he was a neat character. Hopefully with the buff, playing as a GOTTA GO FAST Monk with rosary projectiles will be fun as fuck.

Gaige was one of the only good things about Borderlands 2.
>World's lewdest panting if you turned on Jap voice acting and ran long distances
I'd be happy as shit to see a character like her in another game. She deserved better than Memelands 2.

I don't think there will be that many, actually.
She's an old woman, that's actually a turn off for many casuals and her damage is garbage compared to other snipers. You know very well they play for kills not for heals so they'll drop her real fast.
Even the sleep dart that will look OP as fuck will just be the downfall of casuals. They'll sleep dart someone and then immidiatly shoot him and wonder what went wrong.

I know very well there will be a large amount of Ana players for a few days, but never as big as current Hanzo players at all.
I love her entire concept and I'll try to main her but if there's too many, I'll pick Zenyatta and murder shit while also out healing them just to taunt the scrubs.

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How about milfs?

If you don't have a itchy trigger finger, a single sleeping dart is enough to absolutely ruin a Bastion ult.

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s h i t g a m e

I agree, the game is an average game at best, but I am having fun with it.

I shouldn't respond to this, but Overwatch has absolutely NOTHING in common with DotA. Not one damn thing.

The Ultimates are more of a Call of Duty killstreak type thing, but not as stupid.

PATCH IS LIVE

What's your Patron? I'll donate you 100$ to come up with better pasta.

A few tips: you really wanna ditch the buzzwords, especially when you don't know what they mean. It's a fair comparison with TF2 since it's a class-based shooter as well, but DOTA is stretching it too far. The game has so few things in common with that, you might as well call Dawn of War a Dota clone too. ;_;

I also don't see what's the point in mentioning Heroes of the Storm there except to contradict yourself. If they already have a MOBA, why make a new one to compete with it? Unless it's not a MOBA…

Design doesn't have a narrative, that's story.
And you're surprised the Devs want as many people as possible playing their game? Good lord, what has SanFran done to the average gamer mentality…

Wanna know how I know you never played the game?
Genji, Soldier, Pharah, McCree and even Zenyatta are characters that are just average on the hands of average players but absolute monsters in the hands of really skilled players, try again.
And if they were scared of "scaring away new players", Bastion would never be a thing either.

What about more than just 9 classes? What about all of them actually being balanced so you can use any of them instead of the casual trash that TF2 become where only 4 classes are viable? What other class shooters do you know that did the whole "class based shooter" this well?

AHAHAHAHAHAH
MOBA's are a terrible gameplay design by itself, they are flawed from the very core, there are no "good pits", just accidental fun. For all the turd HotS gets for having a lot of stuff cutted out, at least it has less literal shit than other MOBA's and skips straight to the few things that are actually fun in them.

Nice try being a pseudo-intelectual twat, but buzzwords do not an argument make and if you can't back it up, you just end up embarassing yourself.

Solid can never catch a break huh?

Fuck me I barely get over 2 at home.
Fug.

stop that, faggot

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The hero limit is absolutely retarded BUT at least it stops shitters from going double ana

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RIP bnet

farewell sausage

wew lad

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Did you unlimit it?

Go play competitive in the meantime so you only have to deal with a single fag playing Ana on each team.

Or pay weekly brawl and play with other 11 anas
Which sounds hellish but is actually pretty fun, considering nobody can aim her sleep darts (nor nobody even thinks of using them ever).

If the match is all Anas and you can aim well enough to hit with the regular darts there's really no reason to ever use the sleep darts, its not like they're going to set up anything but another normal dart you could hit with anyway.

Fo' shame

FEELS SO FUCKING GOOD FAM
D.VA IS NO LONGER SHIT

I bet you post in the /vg/ general you fuckin cuck.

How on earth can you make a 15 second webm look that shit?

Did they take away the warning sign so that it's harder for everyone to track? I didn't see one in that shitty fucking weebum. That'd be a welcome change, makes it possible to land a hit with her ult if there's no huge INCOMING BULLSHIT MOVE AWAY symbol alerting the whole God damn neighborhood every time I try to land a kill.

This is just fucking stupid. Ana gave birth to phara. How in the bleeding bloody hell can someone be trans and birth? It's like that is the only thing that can really matter to these dip shits. Not that Ana has a better back story, not that there is probably going to be interactions between her and phara. NO, they only care about someone being trans. Because that is apparently the only mark of good character design is a fucking mental deficiency. Give me a break.

No it's because she can't die to her own ult anymore so theres nothing there.

*be trans and GIVE birth. Fuck, I have bad sausage fingers

why? gaige a cute

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Damn, what a shame. That got me excited for a minute.

it goes off 25% faster, so that helps a lot.

>7.83 MB

If it's too far away to even remotely hit someone it won't show, but other than that, it's still there.

no, i just made 2 copies of the webm, the first at max rez to show off to a few friends.

Not sure, lad. recorded with OBS in FLV, am i doing something wrong? should i be using a different format for the recording?

i wonder how long until that buff is reverted. that one second difference is a huge deal.
also, i would like to peel off scavenger dvas clothing

So predictably every quickplay game has at least one Ana on both sides, and also predictably they never really seem to be contributing much to either team. Enemy Ana never feels like a real threat to need to be focused or flanked and friendly Anas don't appear to be really supporting you with heals or damage. Getting boosted by her ult feels pretty fucking good as a Reinhardt, but that's about it and a Lucio giving your whole team a barrier and a speed boost would probably be more helpful anyway.

its terrifying to see tbh

GOD FUCKING DAMMIT PUBBIES, STOP PICKING ANA WHEN THERE ISN'T A MERCY OR LUCIO ON THE TEAM YET

FUCKING ANAS MCCREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Hopefully Not, D.va's kinda shitty without it.

It's a pain in the ass. She's an amazing offhealer and a terrible mainhealer.

Oh, I think I know just what your after.

Lemme go shoot myself real quick

Does this mean the 4 round burst no longer work? Is S76 kill?

I've seen at least one in every match I've played tonight, much to my ire and chagrin. I've noticed they've been playing much more up-close and aggressive than usual. Then again, I'm on low-level Quick Play, so take it how you will.

After playing for a bit the reticle bloom takes so much longer than it used to and he doesn't have that laser accuracy he used to. My aim is shit, but for good players that can track and hit headshots at close range it's gotta be awful.
That said getting meter from healing is pretty great.

Because you know how Cucklands 2 is around here. Though at least Gaige and Kreig are agreed to be the best parts of it

OBS needs a lot of fine tuning for it to look good, try looking up "Best settings for recording with OBS" and find what works best. My suggestions would be to have it output in a lower resolution While having it record in 1080 and lower audio quality recording. But from there you're gonna want to throw it through a video editor to clean it up even more and get the file size down I know this from my time from trying to be an LP fag

If you played him shooting short bursts then he plays literally exactly the same, you get about four shots before the bloom starts and then a brief pause resets it back to perfectly accurate. If you tap for less than four shots per burst you become actually less accurate than holding for four and releasing, which is weird as fuck. Tap individual shots out and the very second shot will already have noticeable bloom and the third will be significantly variant. Now 4 round burst is basically enforced for long range shooting, no more single shot hit confirms.

does she like headpats?

Absolutely, as long as you're dressed the same colour as her.

Have you ever had a teammate so bad they land six shots the entire game? And they only fired ten?

Ana-Reinhardt seems OP as shit right now.

The combination of his armor and the additional damage reduction from Ana's boost makes the Reinhardt nearly unkillable. Doubly so because he is now moving at so fast and juggling everyone who wants to kill him between swings (it's VERY hard to fight a reinhardt who is meleeing you). The damage boost makes him almost as lethal as a genji ult, but the combined speed, toughness and juggle makes him much more dangerous.

I honestly don't know how to stop a boosted Reinhardt. I think the only character who stands a chance right now is a Junkrat if he can land the trap. His grenades are one of the only weapons I can think of that do enough to break through his boosted armor, and the trap is the only thing that can buy enough time to actually do it.

Speaking of junkrat on boosted reinhardt, this happened earlier today.

As long as you use a wrench.

More frequent than it should. I frequently get the medals I shouldn't have gotten with the roles I play. You end a match as Torb with Gold for Damage and Kills with a Soldier, Tracer and McCree in your team, you just have to wonder what the fuck where those guys doing.

Reinhart does 75 damage normally. With the boost, that's most likely way above 100 damage, so he is actually more dangerous than a Genji Ulti.
It's also a great way to notice how melee is so fucking amazing in the game. Everytime he swings his hammer, he hits everyone in front of him in a large arc, none of that "short range high damage pistol" from the Source engine.

Ana actually does stand a chance with the sleep dart and anyone with vertical movement as well. Mei, not so much, can't freeze him fast enough. However, that's just one combination. Dva basically gets no slowdown while firing and she has even more Armor and mobility than Rein. Chimpout Winston is horribly terryfying and Roadhog is murder on wheels, even more than usual. It's a pretty good Ulti.

roadhog has to aim, DVa DOES slow way too much to be useful. Winston should be good

Well, Valve never had a character using a giant hammer in mind.

Honestly though I think NON-ult winston would be better than ult winston with ana. Ult winston doesn't really kill too good

uberhardt should be able to carry as many enemies as he comes in to contact with

Ana gets added = literally every-fucking-one forgets how to play the game

I actually tried Ana for three straight games and I guess people haven't caught on yet that she can heal good numbers, because teammates actively move out of my line of sight.

forgot to add. she's basically a healer in Support that requires the most effort to be effective. She also needs a co-operative team that isn't super fucking used to being babysit by a Lucio or Mercy

Play her less like Widow and more like Zen. Follow the team, not too far back, a little more active about keeping them in LOS.

oh, and they spam "i need healing!" while they do it.

then bitch that you haven't healed them

Uberhardt is pretty scary, but have you ever been under attack by molten core'd Torb hammering you in the dick while Nano'd? Shit's fucking terrifying.

I hate sharing a continent with these people

The worst part is, they are playing her for the hype while completely disregarding her entire role.
Oh, she's a sniper? Cool, I'll totally get some sick headshots with her, here's a damage grenade too and my sleep CC so I can land my next shot.

They completely forget she's a Support character, that shooting at her teammates for heals is far better than trying to get kills themselves and her superior range means "stay the fuck away", not "flank them alone for mad kills".
Shit's even worse in the Brawl where everyone can either pick a Tank or Ana. Winning combination is 4 tanks and 2 Ana's for staying power, but everyone plays Ana but the one or two guys that actually know they need a tank on the point.

Mercy fucking DIES if her team doesn't help her. Mercy kicks the bucket if she needs to target someone with GA to escape and the fucker doesn't bother to be near the edge of a catwalk. Meanwhile, if people aren't in range of Ana, they are the ones doing the dying.

found something even worse.

roadhog using whole hog with uber buff from ana. thatll fuck shit up.

As stupid as buying 50 boxes for any reason is, the odds of getting ZERO ana items are roughly 0.0001%. It's more than low enough to think it might be bugged.

Meanwhile I had over 5k credits so I just bought everything I wanted for her off the bat.

Literally 1 in a million.

I say "roughly" because it assumes every item has an equal chance of belonging to any character in the game, and ignores the chance of getting a player icon (but I rounded up from 0.00009, that should account for the latter).

new content and balance changes have a way of drawing back formerly disinterested players

A lot of ults will. Reaper is another one for that.

The thing about Rein is he doesn't even need to have his ult.

does anyone find the yellow border from the healing buff a bit disorienting?

Does Ana's nanoboost speed and damage bonus apply to Torbjorn's and Symmetra's turrets, and make getting instant kills with McCree happen earlier?
Why do Lucio players use their speed boost only for leaving the spawn room?

Lootbox contents are generated when acquired, not when opened. He probably bought a shitload of boxes before Ana was released and then opened a bunch of boxes guaranteed not to contain Ana goods.

these are all good questions. a lot of lucio players seem to not realize just how useful the speed boost is, especially when it comes to shit like pharah ults.

well, there goes my idea of hoarding boxes for when a bunch of new heroes come out. not much else i want out of the original 21, but i would like one of the younger ana skins. could just buy it but i dont wanna spend muh pretend currency

Dunno about the turrets, but the way nanoboost + McCree's ult works is the lock-on animation doesn't account for damage buffs so enemies don't get marked any faster, but the buff still applies when you fire. So you might kill enemies that aren't marked yet.

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Are the third world poorfags still shitting up these threads letting us all know HOW TOTALLY NOT UPSET THEY ARE that its not free to play still?

They'll arrive in about 5 to 6 hours.
Amazingly enough, they have a schedule and they stick to it.

the salt is more delicious than play of the game honestly

I've seen a lot of people switch to D.Va to attempt handling a Zarya lately which is weird because her laser is a huge "Go fuck yourself" to both D.Va's Matrix and mech size. I'll toss it up to the recent patch changes I guess.

I hope every single person who plays Ana gets cancer and dies
Here's another story
I should just play with bots for a week or two until these retards get bored of Ana

Honestly I can't think of anyone who hard counters Zarya, other than maybe a McCree who can get some good headshots on her, or anyone with very high DPS or very fast, unpredictable burst damage. She's got the least health of all the tanks(400, while everyone else is about 500 or 600), but she's also the smallest tank who can put out 200 extra HP as a barrier on command for herself and a teammate, and can just DPS laser people to death, or toss out energy grenades to wreck people. Half her health being regenerative also helps.

Day 63 - There is no end in sight. The level of shitters on Overwatch Island has grown exponentially with the advent of the new patch. in my wildest dreams and most dreaded nightmares, I could never have fathomed the degree to which people could shove their heads up their own asses. If this is what over a thousand years of civilization has wrought, then I weep for Man.

Euphoric M'lord.

and a few hours early this time, not bad Arnaldo.

Bumplock when?

NEVER EVER

People playing a character just because it's new are fucking cancer. Those play exactly like a Genji going around just melee attacking people. And here I though Pistol Mercy was a bad meme…

You think that's bad? Sombra is soft-confirmed as the next character to be revealed and she's a stealth-based character. How she plays doesn't even matter, you just know it's gonna be a full month or even more of shitters playing her.

In 107 replies, actually.
But then someone will just make another thread :D

junkrat's okay. gotta keep the mine handy in case she gets close tho.

made a nice quad kill with mccree's ult today. i'd post it but apparently highlights disappear if you close the game so there we go.

are you actually retarded? we've told you this so many times already. at 300 posts.

this guy posts in every thread and i'm not sure whether he just doesn't stick around till he gets the answer or if he's actually mentally disabled in some way. Should just make the thread cyclical again so this retard won't have to worry anymore.

Its been covered, br's, slavs and other poorfags wanted it to be f2p, its not so they shit the bed because they dont get the new shiny and want us to know how not mad they are. Every day.

Isn't twitch full of BRs anyway?

Good Zarya counters seem to be zenyatta and mei, and to a lesser extent, a roadhog who can be patient. There's also an opportunity for tracer to constantly harass and keep her from regenerating her shield by landing single hits every few seconds but zarya can kill her in 4 ticks with even a small amount of charge on her laser.

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It's the other way around, Zarya totally ignores the frost with her shield

For all of two seconds? It's not long enough for her to burn through Mei's health pool, generally speaking. Of course individual skill can change the fight though

The two seconds are fine as long as you aren't stupid and don't pop your shield immediately, trade shots with her until you're about to freeze, shield which removes all freeze and keep shooting. This is all assuming a 1v1 situation too, which is stupid since you shouldn't be 1v1ing as Zarya.

Yeah 1v1 as both of these characters is a kinda bad decision.
Aside from that Mei's heal can be used when the shield has been, for zarya, which would kinda anull that strat. Assuming equal skill and strategy the mei can outmaneuver the zarya in most cases.

Always bet on bei.

Is there anything better than this?

This is what autists do.

You're still a loser but.

What will it take to convince Widowmaker players on my team to stop playing Widowmaker? The only time I find her useful is when she's ulting, but only because her ult has no counterplay besides "don't get hit and take cover", and killing her while her ult is active doesn't do anything.

That said, I hate playing against Widowmaker so much that even Mei sounds peachy in comparison. I don't think she's overpowered, but she comes off as super cheesy just for how quickly her rifle charges and the aforementioned ultimate. However I can deal with an enemy Widow more than I can a teammate Widow.

Have you seen the backlash "Meet your Match" had? Some of it was due to severe bugs in the matchmaking making queues take hours, but the biggest reason people dislike it is because they were used to the casual laidback attitude of "just choose a server and play". People liked the game casual, now it's competitive and they hate it.

So please, stop this meme about "it's casual so it's bad" because it seems Overwatch isn't casual enough for most people as it stands.

Your teammates are shit. Bully the fuck out of them.
If there's a Pharah on the other team killing the shit out of yours, that's because your Widow is furiously shlicking somewhere instead of killing people.
I like to pick her in Kings Row when attacking specifically to soften their defense from afar and I can see that everytime I'm not doing my job right, my team can't even go past the first chokehold.

If you bully them enough about how their aim sucks and they ain't killing anyone, they'll change class eventually.
I usually solved this in TF2 by changing team, picking Spy\Scout and bully them so hard they'd pick a different class.

Widowmaker is on the same spot as Bastion, although she doesn't come off that way do to the terrible people that usually pick her. She's an high priority target that your team has to solve, either with some Shields\Barriers or flanking and killing her. If you don't do it, she'll keep killing you all, but if you do that, she'll be an easy 6v5.

So will they ever actually stop and take stock of this game to balance it properly? Because so far every patch has just shoved a different character(s) to the forefront, let them fuck for a while and then slapped them back to cycle in another. Some characters are borderline useless and others you gimp yourself to not have.

That was just laziness.

Ana actually has higher healing per second than any other healer in the game.
Good luck getting a teammate that can actually aim with her, though.

Ana fires a syringe every 1.1 seconds for 75 healing. Considering Mercy is the best "single target healer" at just 50 HPpS, Ana can actually out heal Mercy as long as she hits every shot. Even an accuracy of 50% still puts her healing above Zenyatta.

Light Curry does indeed heal you. Everytime those 25 shields regenerate, she just healed 25 points of damage for you. And for any character with natural armor, that's actually 25 points of regenerating armor.

Care to give examples? You're being awfully generic there.
I feel that every character is actually quite viable now although not in every situation. You just gotta find out how to play them and you'll do fairly well with him.
McCree is considered shit-tier because FtH does no damage anymore and yet you can see a few Webms of Amishmanlove (what a gay name) here actually playing him decently because he actually knows McCree isn't a Revolver Soldier.

That's the current Blizzard audience.
It might not be BRs or cheeki breekies, but Blizzard's fanbase is just as bad anyway.

Oh no, you misunderstood me.
There are people right now that did not bought the game because they hate the concept of matchmaking. They just want to join a random server and pubstomp so they can feel good about their easy victory.
Everytime they try any form of matchmaking in any game, 15 minutes later there's a post in some forum about "forced 50" because they aren't winning all the games.

And these people were fined with TF2 the way it was before but now that Valve is trying to pull an Overwatch over their players, it's not sitting well with these faggots at all.
Most of the userbase of Overwatch doesn't mind the system (at least when it works) as they like being pitted against equally skilled oponents.
It's these funny guys that keep shittalking about Overwatch and now are massively butthurt that the same thing happened to TF2. Both games, despite being terribly casual, are now too hardcore for them. Because it forces them to play against equally skilled oponents. Fun stuff.

I got that name from one of those vidya game name generators. Also I'm very inconsistent with my aiming, and I have a tendency to just look around, even if it's there's no reason to. Probably just a habit to make sure my ability to aim's okayish, or just to keep an eye out for something.

I prefer having server browsers and the option to host your own dedicated server. Except for that one asshole who mains the undeniably strongest character in a no fun allowed way, it's nicer to just play among a server that gets a regular circle of people, provided that it's active most of the time.

So
How the fuck are we supposed to deal with the Dorito-Eating Gremlin now?
Compared to what she used to be, she is a fucking monster OP right now
A good D.va player used to rack up 4 gold medals without a sweat because the character was already decent when in right hands
Now her strengths were basically doubled
Her defense matrix feels like it's up 24/7, and always ready to absorb the hardest of damages that'd otherwise be dished out. She has literally no vulnerability windows when the matrix is used to absorb only the worst.
Her ultimate is a second faster, which is a huge difference to the old one, and that she can't be damaged by it is the biggest bullshit. Back in the day, a good Reinhardt could push the Mech back to D.va and kill her with her own Mech and possibly save the whole team from the explosion, now she can just wipe whole enemy team after 3 seconds, literally sit in the explosion radius and summon a new Mecha as soon as the old one just demolished everybody else.
Why not make tracer's bomb the same then? Maybe make it explode faster and give it more range, that'd give her a nice little boost, eh?
So let's see, a character that:

I've always thought that Piggy was OP with his hook + instakill everybody with 300 or less HP but D.va after the buff is on a whole new level

What happened to her quote "NERF THIS"?
Those fuckers buffed it

Does everyone get this skin in their loot boxes?

The only McCree skin I've gotten was the literal worst one, the yellow recolor.

The cooldown on her shield needs to have an overheat mechanic. When it fully drains it should be disabled until it fully refills again. It should also have a short delay before it starts recharging. I disagree about her damage though, she's still useless at anything above 2.5 meters. Despite all her shielding she can still be burst down in under a second with enough focused dps - a mcree and a 76 is enough to take her out if they stay back a reasonable distance.

That's usually the most comfy option but not the best for larger playerbases or very big communities.
If you're playing with friends, definitely. I much prefer LAN servers because of this.

But if you're gonna play against random people online, I much prefer having some form of matchmaking making sure I don't get paired with complete noobs or against insanely good players.
What's more, every server kinda homogenizes a bit so you can freely change between them for whatever reason and find the same stuff. Have a cheater or a tryhard on your server? Just leave and play somewhere else, let the assholes enjoy an empty server.

I have it too. It's supposedly a Legendary but it seems to drop a lot (and it's the best he has anyway).

Any Beam weapon is great, Mei is Death and Zarya's too. Long range engagements work well too but you gotta be ready to relocate for when she charges you.
Her Defense Matrix isn't handled the same way Genji's Reflect is, you don't wait it out. You unload shit on her and deplete her meter. She can either keep it down and take damage or spend it and be left empty, like Reinhart with his barrier.
Her Head Hitbox is still exploitable for snipers.

Her Head Hitbox is still exploitable for snipers.
On top of this, if you're playing as Reaper keep in mind that Defense Matrix shoots down projectiles starting at a distance away from her face meaning if you stand right in her face and shoot, you'll ignore defense matrix. You pretty much have to walk into her effective range to do this so it's typically only useful to get her to drop matrix so your team can focus her down. Don't try to do it alone unless she's weak.

lol no. mccree's default skin is the best. the epic ones are the only other decent mccree skins and everything else is shit tier. why you would ever wanna go from a true cowboy gunslinger to that phantom something whatever wannabe is beyond me.

Nah.

no user, there is not. it is the oversalt version of "hear the lamentations of their women." only instead "women" it's "dps who think they're hot shit."

It kinda reminds me of Zorro. thought it probably doesn't work as much considering that McCree doesn't go around with swords.

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Unless there's a section of the moon that's under USA control and his ancestors came from Africa (which could actually happen, I guess), he's a Moon Monkey.

pretty sure doc holliday didn't dress up into a phantom. the only thing the skin has in common with him is the hat. don't bullshit yourself, you're just a shitty phantom wannabe.

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wrong quote

He's a scientist ape, not a monkey.

When will the shit end

I'm not talking about the phantom skin, bruh.

oh. yeah, okay, that one's slightly better. still wouldn't replace it with the default tho.

His kind originates in Africa just like Africans.
He was born on a lunar colony which was an American research station for the military which qualifies as a military base and by law they are considered part of american soil and any person born on American soil is considered aN american

This is why I like the FFXIV way of adding classes and wish they'd do that in OW, where you add a few heroes together but have them all be separate roles to prevent over saturation of one role. I'd be willing to wait the extra time to develop more heroes for the sake of preventing another 5 Ana hellhole.

Devs are avoiding that after having introduced several new characters at once during the closed beta and the balance clusterfuck that followed was a complete mess. Introducing one hero at a time is easier to manage.

I'd still prefer they add multiple heros at once. We have PTR for a reason after all.

We were in a game with a retard Ana who was pretty much useless and I was playing with a group of three friends so we started all jumping on him with really back handed compliments thanking him for "really helping out the team" and shit and he started sperging out and talking shit non-stop in the chat so we reciprocated with even more shit like "I hope you find true love" "I hope you live a long fulfilling life." and then the enemy team started to rip into him too and It got to the point were he rage quit the game.

I hope Ana fag bullying becomes a thing.

Why is Sudden Death in ranked so unbalanced?
Attacking team WILL win 90% of the time
You have to run all the way from the spawn to the point you're defending whereas the attackers can just keep throwing people at your defenses since their spawn is literally next to the point they need to capture

When will Jewzzard fix this shit?

Blizzard hasn't given a single fuck about balance since '08.

It was a damn good time and granny's not that bad. I can't wait for all the shitters to get tired of failing as Ana and go back to Genji/Hanzo.

They're removing sudden death in Season 2 and instead just having ties.

Well, that's just fucking great news for this season…

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Technically, it's balanced because they don't have a lot of time to complete it…
But yeah, it's bullshit. The second team having only as much time for their attack as the first team took (or having to complete only as many objectives as them during that time) would be more than enough and quite fair.

dunno if that's what they went with. I know it's gonna be replaced, but I dunno with what.

They said they don't want to mess too much with the current season too much and prefer to keep this kind of changes to the next season.
Just be happy we got Ana and those buffs\nerfs before the next season.

also consider bananas healing grenade which doubles healing for 5 seconds

fuck matchmaking and fuck you. forced 50 is not okay. i shouldnt get women on my team just because i won a game

i wish. all i ever get is widowmaker skins, who i might have played 10 minutes before her nerf just to see how easy she was.

i remember hearing this was the plan for that very reason, i wonder what changed

On the upside, it's going to be pretty fucking hilarious when they put out that stealth character and both teams are bumbling around invisible unable to find each other.

i also remember reading that they didnt intend to include any stealthers

Which is why it's not and never was part of the code. The game does not unbalance teams to make you lose, it just puts as much good players as bad players on your side.
If you won every single game you played, either you were the best of all 7 million players with such a difference that your input completely invalidates the efforts of the oposing team… Or the game was putting worse players on the other team.

I just finished a match where I, level 59 or so, got paired with a lvl3 and a lvl5 (and both were terrible as you'd expect) and yet we still won.
"Forced 50" is just the bad excuse people come up to explain why they lost the game instead of looking back and thinking what mistake did they make that costed them victory. I usually can pinpoint it easily (no tanks and no presence on the point, not enough damage or healing, overextending) and if you did the same, you'd notice it is not because the game clones Seagull 5 times at 5 AM and makes him play against you.

During Beta, they released an update that included several heroes at the same time. Can only remenber Mei and Genji, but there was a total of 3 or 5 added at the same time.
Players complained a lot about how that completely threw the meta out the window since there were all these new heroes they had to learn how to play with and against and nobody knew what to do against them.
So they decided now to release one at a time, let people get used to him while they make the next one.

They don't consider Stealth to be an interesting mechanic since usually the payoff is an instantkill with little to no counterplay. This would mean Stealth would have to be an Ulti at least but that's not a good way to design a hero since his main gimmick is reserved for an Ulti. Also, it avoids fighting, which ain't very interesting compared to the rest of the heroes.

Sombra will be the 23rd hero added to the game and I can't wait for that day since it's gonna be horrible for a long time. It's gonna be like Reaper on steroids and I just hope they make her so hard to play people will get tired of trying her (kinda what happened to Reaper)

I'm not saying there cant be a good Ana player but it certainly Isn't like those three fucking Anas on one of the last games I played. At this point I genuinely hope these idiots who don't care about their team do go Ana so we can wipe the floor with them and teach them a lesson.

There is a lot of satisfaction of going reaper and teleporting behind them and killing all three of them not once not twice but three times in a fucking row.

What the fuck just happened?

You just wrecked some Genji main shitters and now they are salty because they couldn't "outskill" and murder everything with Genji. Good job.

i dont think im open to being convinced that forced 50 is not a thing. ive had games where everyone seems competent and it scatters us to the corners of the earth after the round is over. putting me in a game where one team or the other is only in for pain. im not just looking for an excuse why i lost and when its because my aim is off or i made a bad call im actually pretty damn happy because that means i can improve somewhere. the game shouldnt come down to a single players ability anyways and though i have had a few games like that it means something is seriously fucked up. if a game came down to dva not using her defense matrix to block X ult then the game was probably pretty close and i wont be upset. but its not hard to tell when a teammate or enemy had only a very basic understanding of the game and i dont mind a few asshats, but maybe it could space them out between the teams. every once in a blue moon it does. ive had several games where only one enemy and myself have an inkling how to play the game and we actually 1v5 eachothers teams, ive never won those and i know its my own fault for letting the bastard slip by me, its not like the maps are very complicated.
losing doesnt upset me, its just a screen telling me that i blow or that im awesome, what upsets me is when the game wasnt fun and may as well have just been masturbating win or lose.

oh, so they tried it and it didnt stick with people. well i appreciate that they tried it out at least. it doesnt make much of a difference to me either way.

same type of people that get mad when a pyro kills them with the flamethrower i guess.
why didnt they focus you if you were such a problem? did granny pump you full of steroids? cause that shit is terrifying

Genjis are faggots, what else is new.

If I'm playing quickplay at all right now it's to practice Ana or maybe one of the other major patch changes. I honestly don't give a shit if we win, if my team is retarded, if our comp is retarded, gotta deal with all that crap sooner or later in Comp, so it's good practice anyway.

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I've been playing Ana for good while since she released and I can aim pretty good but the thing that always fucks me the most is friendlies going behind walls or around corners where I can't heal them. I'll usually hit every shot but its really difficult finding a good position in the less open maps. Shes definatley one of the hardest characters to play in the game and I think maybe they should slightly increase her healing potency somehow to reward good aim. Maybe more healing with direct crosshair hits or something like that.

last i heard, bastions vp is all for the tpp

She already heals 100HPS (90 per shot, fires every .9 second). Double that when combined with her E. If you can aim every shot it's plenty rewarding. Personally I average around 72% (both scoped and not), not really sure if that's good bad or average.

I prefer to play closer to the team at most points. I don't really take too much advantage of the sniper aspect, but i get more heals that way.

does ana still sound old in her younger skins?

Her gun deals 90 per shot and heals 75 per shot.

stupid sexier pharah…

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There are levels of irony here SJW's couldnt possibly comprehend.

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PS4 VERSION OF THE UPDATE WHEN

so hes an injun who doesnt want people to be buttblasted on his behalf. poor bastard has to walk on eggshells

Well at least butt expansions a better fetish for the devs to insert than corruption. Again.

they must have changed it after ptr

in widowmakers case, both

Mercy pls go.

Nigga, you've been watching too much Game Theory.

Where do you think he steals all his stuff from? Same as Vaati Vidyah. They are just like those 'top 5' channels that just read out forum posts or articles and pass it off as their own.

TvTropes?

>Got the game a few days ago and played 20 matches, 19 victories, usually playing as Tank or Support, I just want to be useful for the team
Yesterday
>Played 10 matches, lost them all while still playing as a tank or support because for some reason high level players want a team full of Genji/Hanzo/Reaper/D.Va

I swear to god Blizzard said "just fuck this guy in particular" because I've had only one match without a leaver today

are you allowed to leave a game with a leaver yet? without being marked as a leaver yourself i mean

if you leave after a full minute yes but you still get marked with a loss and lose mmr which is bumfuck retarded

It's to prevent people from manipulating MMR with one guy who will take the hit for his team but it's still completely fucking retarded because it's not like I'm gonna organize with others in solo queue to do that.

What people often don't notice is those games that are unbalanced on reverse. When you have a teammate that single handedly carries your team (as much as a single player can, of course). Those are as unbalanced as having a fucktard on your team but nobody notices those because they win. And it's easier to pin point faults on other people and merit on yourself than the reverse of both.
You'll always have both situations happening and what matters is how frequent they are, ideally this should be a rare ocurrence, as rare as possible, and I think for the most part that's what is currently happening.

On the other hand, more than 7 million players, user. What did you expect?
Vydia has gained more enthusiasts in the last few years, lots of people that want to play vydia games. But the amount of actually good players did not go up significantly, actually.

Which really makes no sense. One good thing about Ana is that everyone is trying her so I get an oportunity to finnaly try some Offense heroes instead of always being Support.
Genji is fucking easy, you just go behind people's back and act like a gigantic cunt, annoying the fuck out of them, sniping with shurikens and only going in when you know you can get a kill. Both your abilities are basically a "fuck you, I don't die now", he's even worse than Mei since at least you can outrun Mei.
How people can be bad at Genji is beyond me, and I'm a Support main.

WEW

She heals 75 damage (but does 90 to the enemies) and fires once every 1,1 seconds actually. It still beats Mercy with only 50HPpS but you gotta hit almost all your shots to be worth it, however paired with another healer, she's great too by doubling their healing. Zenyatta's Orb can heal 60 HPpS and Lucio can heal 25 to everyone in range or even 250 HPpS during amp it up. Lucio and Ana combined can heal a lot of people much like Zenyatta's Ulti but slightly better.

That animation looks a lot like someone forgot to reset her ass bones properly. I'll give her ass a bone

please don't post that shit. it's fucking depressing, I saw that thread and that webm ain't even the worst of all of those

No, it's not. If you didn't lost anything, every competitive team would have a "designated fall account" that would log in and play with everyone else, and if they were losing, that account would disconnect, take the penalty (not that it matters) and everyone else would go free with nothing lost.

We are in a time where people DDoS Dota 2 servers when they bet cosmetics on a team and that team is losing. You simply can't allow any of this shit to happen because people WILL mis-use shit for personal benefit if they can. Remenber the Ignore option? I sure loved using it on every Hanzo main on my team I saw or a few cunts that thought they were playing SinglePlayer. Well, no more of that since some spineless cowards don't want to face better players.

My thoughts exactly. I mean if she were to hook up with anyone, I could see Reinhardt making more sense than this prime example of tumblr in action bullshit.

fuck these people so hard.

I've been doing that in games where I have two or more ana/snipers when we need something else. I'm helping.

if it aint one thing its the other.

i definitely notice. thats what i meant by one team or the other, and how i might as well be doing something else. sure its not hardly as frustrating to win like that as it is to lose but its not much more fun to me.
i expect it to find me a somewhat even match more often than it does. is it really that unrealistic?

at least theyre both relatively attractive, even if mercy is flat

A corpse in a ego fuelled life support suit doesnt need boobs.

Does this game only have team based matches? No free for all?

I'm seriously about to quit this game. I'm more a TF2 man myself anyway, but I just wanted to get to rank 60 and call it done, but jesus christ. People are fucking stupid.

They don't get simple shit, like how Torb works. Torb makes any stand up fight between teams pretty much an autowin for your team via his turret and armor. He's fantastic in death pits, like the King of the Hill matches.

But every time I go to play Torb on HOTH 'Why are you playing Torb?' and 'GG, idiot playing torb'. And I wreck. Every single fucking time. With 3 or more golds.

Mean while, fuck instant lock Ana and not one, fucking, word. Jesus Christ.

i wonder how much room there is for boobage in that varia suit

derishush

If anything, his design plays him off as a retarded douchebag that wanted to dress up as the worst homage to the Man with No Name.

Considering that some user was rank something near 60 and apparently he's at the top 14% of the game? Yes.
I really think you are overestimating the average player in… Well, practically any multiplayer game these days, really.

You mean a deathmatch mode? Why would there be such a thing? What would support characters even do there? Or how would tanks work? It would be a mode where only 1/4 of the cast would be playable due to everyone else also playing those guys.

Torb is godlike on consoles to the point where they had to nerf him there.
Not so much on PC, decent players can handle torbs just fine, trust me.
KOTH has a very short travel time for people to get on the point and little to no flanking routes. Your turret will be a priority target and WILL be killed fast by any decent team making you a liability, that's why most people prefer not to bring him in those maps.

It's still pretty much viable if you have friends to play with and coordinate strategies, like a Reinhart, Dva or even Genji shielding you while you build and upgrade it, but otherwise it's not gonna get shit done unless you are against terrible teams.

Time on Objective and Objective Kills are okay for you to get if you keep holding the point and killing anyone going near it.
But the extra medal (either Damage Done or Eliminations) should NEVER go to you. It just means someone in your team wasn't doing their job. If any Offense class can't outdamage a Torb, they are shit at that role. And if any sniper can't kill more than you, they have shit aim.

looks like mercy has the best ass

the bamf buckle and the revolver spur are kinda dumb, i'll give you that, but they're just small flair items that generally go unnoticed and don't break the original image. maybe they'll release a good mccree skin with the new batch. I kinda doubt it tho. My bet is they'll go all out and make everything but cowboy skins.

In game models show Mercy has an ass second only to mei in girth.
Dollars to donuts shes a pear in a corset.

You do know Torb has a GUN right? He's not just a turret.

Seriously, here is the secret to Torb. His turret? It fucking sucks. It does shit DPS, 14x4 a second, it's fragile, it can be easily killed by most anything with a chunky health pool or range.

But Torb WITH his turret is a fucking monster. That thing is on a 8 second cooldown, his rifle does 70 damage a shot at mid-range at 2 shots a second, making it amazing for spamming chokes and around corners. His shotgun will drop most anything in 2 or 3 shots. His almost always going to have 275 health, with the ability to re-armor mid-fight. His turret is either a wonderful 150 HP, 28 DPS distraction/combat buddy, or a 300 HP 50~DPS monster that ensures he'll win any fight within 40 meters of his gun.

Oh, and when you ult, you will sweep the point. By yourself. If you are even remotely good, because the amount of damage and durability you and your turret have combined is near insurmountable.

People in this game do not get Torb. He is not the TF2 engie, his turret doesn't have that level of power and durability. He is a combat engie, through and through. He's got a fucking amazing weapon, good durability, a quick building turret on an 8 second cooldown, and the ability to enhance the durability of his entire team.

Whenever I see a Torb sitting behind a turret and hitting it with a hammer, I die a little inside. The thing isn't worth trying to keep alive, it's garbage. It's job is to make you a fucking combat monster, and it does it extremely well.

And yes, those golds are normally Kills, Objective Kills, Damage and Objective Time.

Calm down, user. I mained Engy in TF2 and I transitioned very well to Overwatch. Torb is still one of my favorite classes and I always pick him when I want a relaxing game (and never get it any way).

The rivet gun is pretty amazing, with no damage falloff and very good range for the primary fire (I've outsnipped so many people it's not even funny) and his secondary as a shotgun is pretty decent too (although I think the first one is still better).
His ability to drop armor and regain health every 2 kills is neat too, keeps me alive a lot of the time.

However, he is closer to TF2 engie than you might thing. 14x4 per second is 56 DPS, which is quite a lot especially if paired with you. Compare it to Winston that deals only 60 DPS, for instance.
And much like the Engy, your sentry is a distraction for you and you are a distraction for your sentry. Something every Engy eventually had to learn was that if you only relied on your sentry, the other team would take it down with a Soldier\Demo\Uber. That's why I learned to grab my Widowmaker and charge in whenever I see stickies flying.

The only serious difference between both is that you can't really outheal the damage people do to your sentry like the Engy could, so it's pointless to repair it mid combat, it will just get you killed.

However the problem still stands that his gun, while nice, can't really compete with some other stuff in the game. A Reaper has a better shotgun than you do, a Hanzo has a better rivet gun than you do. And in KoTH where everyone gather on the same point, you'll be at point-blank range with a lot of these guys as will be your sentry. It's a lot harder to surprise them with a sneaky sentry or to spread out between you and the sentry and more importantly, find enough downtime to level it up. If you have the point clear long enough to upgrade it, odds are your team wiped the other without your sentry and it wasn't even needed.

I'd still take him to KoTH, you just gotta be aware of his weaknesses when doing so and plan very well accordingly, because otherwise you were better off bringing a Bastion. Better turret with faster deploy time and free relocation.

i was a big fan of baby satan sentry, but i never thought it was all that powerful because a single medic is enough to negate its effectiveness whether through overhealing or active heals. i feel similarly in overwatch but in this game healers and other people who are just well suited to taking out combat engis are far more prevalent that and people tend to stick together more often in this game.
id love to force it to work, but i can never really stand the lack of mobility and people start whining when im not just sitting there with my dick in my hand waiting for a series of rockets to kill my poor baby.

probably just does a lot of squats (or high altitude jumps?). she doesn't have the facial or upper body features of a pear (fatter arms/neck/cheeks).

corsets can do strange things brother.

disgusting

the arms stay fat. the face stays fat. she might have some sort of a corset built into her suit but her figure is by no means pear shaped. she's probably just fit as fuck

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here's a slightly better version cause the corset fits her a bit more like it should but you get the picture

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with the amount of shitty genjis i get this made laugh my ass off thanks user

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UGH THICKER

But why would she be wearing a corset under all that winter gear?

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Not Mei, Mercy. Have you not seen the ass comparison chart or teen mercy in yoga pants?

The top halfs skinny but that booty is THICC. Meis runner up to bootyqueen status.

Ah, yeah no I see it now. Some people just hit the genetic jackpot and in this future full of robots and nanomachines it's probably possible to keep an hourglass figure while being bottom-heavy.

Also it's thick. Please don't bring the tumblr in here.

Its too late friend. Like fam that ship has sailed.

"too late" is just another way of saying "I didn't take enough time making my point."

The heartboner wants what the heartboner wants and Meis playload may be the girthiest but mercys is not only 2nd fattests but probably toned as fug too.

Imagine.

The worst part is liking a wide set of hips, but not fatties

I mean the "THICC" thing. Let's not make t hem feel welcome.

Combat Engi is the most viable engi actually. You gotta learn how to use your shotgun\rivetgun or you will always be an inferior grease monkey, but you gotta combine it with your sentry or you're an inferior class as well.

You know how Scouts in TF2 handle Pyro's? They constantly go near and away from him, forcing him to keep switching between shotgun and flamethrower. This constant switch between weapons fucks up with his aim and concentration and if done well, you'll get a lot of free hits while he misses everything.
Fighting games players do the same, mixing high, mid and low attacks to force their oponent to constantly switch defense styles and keep his mind busy dealing with all that shit.

Sentrys are the same. You pop one up, everyone knows what's gonna happen so they'll focus it. That's your chance to stick a hot metal rivet up their ass. When they start taking damage from both of you, they'll try to retreat, that's when you go after them only far enough that you're still near your sentry. You bait them back and while they are busy with you, your sentry gets an easy kill.
The idea is to always have 2 different targets shooting at him so he can't properly decide which to kill first. This keeps people away from areas, (they'll try to pick one of you off first before going in) and confuses them greatly during combat.

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i had to fucking watch that webm 4 times its great

She heals 75 damage (but does 90 to the enemies) and fires once every 1,1 seconds actually. It still beats Mercy with only 50HPpS but you gotta hit almost all your shots to be worth it, however paired with another healer, she's great too by doubling their healing. Zenyatta's Orb can heal 60 HPpS and Lucio can heal 25 to everyone in range or even 250 HPpS during amp it up. Lucio and Ana combined can heal a lot of people much like Zenyatta's Ulti but slightly better.

She fires 1.1 times PER second, not once per 1.1 seconds. But otherwise you are right.

I didn't bother to check the wiki when I made that post. It had originally said 90 healing/damage unscoped, 89 scoped. They never anounced any changes so I just assumed it stayed the same.

Genji is fucking easy, you just go behind people's back and act like a gigantic cunt, annoying the fuck out of them, sniping with shurikens and only going in when you know you can get a kill. Both your abilities are basically a "fuck you, I don't die now", he's even worse than Mei since at least you can outrun Mei.
How people can be bad at Genji is beyond me, and I'm a Support main.

Genji is actually hard to do right. Specifically, you need to be hitting shotgun headshots, melees and dashes in instant succession all while dodging like a fucking maniac.

The STRATEGY is easy, but execution is what separates the gods from the pests.

SO many of my games go to sudden death that it's impossible to call the games stacked. If both games are good enough to push all the way or earn AT LEAST 4 points in point-capture then how can the matchmaking possibly be deliberately fucking you? I also win (and sometimes lose) most of my KOTH games 2-3, so same thing there.

The way to handle it is that the later someone leaves in a match the less of an effect they have on rank. By the time it's OBVIOUS that your team is going to lose, leaving should make absolutely no difference on rank loss/gain. However, if someone leaves 3 minutes into the game when things could still easily go either way then neither team should really be gaining or losing anything.

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