JUDGE FINDS MICHELLE CARTER GUILTY OF MANSLAUGHTER IN TEXTING SUICIDE CASE

JUDGE FINDS MICHELLE CARTER GUILTY OF MANSLAUGHTER IN TEXTING SUICIDE CASE


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DEGENERATE

SAGE BECAUSE I HAVENT FOLLOWED THE CASE SO IDGAF

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Another vapid cunt with danger eyebrows. Jesus they just scream cunt slut.

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GUILTY OF MANS LAUGHTER????
what the hell is that???

How much of a pussy was that guy who killed himself,you millenials are the most spoiled bunch ever in the history of humanity.

On the one hand bitch deserves jail, on the other i really don't like that you can now go to jail for the most common insult on the internet.

Fuck this bitch, telling an innocent guy to kill himself,"I thought you wanted to do this. The time is right and you're ready, you just need to do it! You can't keep living this way. You just need to do it like you did last time and not think about it and just do it babe. You can't keep doing this every day." i mean holy shit the guy shouldn't have offed himself but i know people who have had girl tell them similar things to this

DEGENERATE

Get this like bitch outta here.

And another thing, this case shows how fucking sociopathic and amoral kids are. I live in a pozzed city and tbh I sometimes get the heebyjeebies working with millennials especially the SJW and fag types. Either I feel a very dark energy about them or at the very least you know the lights are on but no one's home.
Zogbots.

What are the Baby Boomers? Millennials at least have the excuse of being the first generation in US history to be poorer than previous ones.

this. something is seriously wrong with adolescent teenagers these days, i think its because society has turned for the worst and people are turning away from a higher power.

Good. She can spend the next fifteen years as Shawnquayla's tampon.

She did nothing wrong. Fucking weak pussies

I can see that assembling a jury is expensive, so if we can avoid it we will, but under what circumstances does a judge decide someone's guilt? What's the deal here?

Well we're on this board so we know all the (((usual suspects))). One thing I notice even with people my age, they are all mentally Ill and on meds. Not just this, media glorifies psychopathy so you have evey fuckwad thinking how everyone but they are expendable and above consequences.
They are severed from god, severed from their selfish parents and walk the way of moloch, away from volk.
You have no idea how it makes me rage that our parents, grandparents and so on were deniers of reality and now I and younger kids pay the price. They still have their heads in the sand, too.

Case in point.

This is winning faggots, whether you like to admit or not and it is a solid victory. Two or three years ago this bitch would be let off with a slap on the wrist, now she's serving time. Look at her, that prissy bitch wouldn't fuck you. Destroy every cunt that tries to stand in our path, Hitler 2.0 isn't going to be a gentleman but a savage to these bitches.

Probably could've happened to me at certain points of my life.

Yeah great win. Setting a precedent that doing nothing to stop someone from killing himself can get you in jail for involuntary manslaughter. You bitter virgin betacucks are ruining this board

you are a weakling of a man, no a boy

So now if you're on an imageboard and people kill themselves, you better hope you told them not to do it. Sounds like we're all going to jail.

saying "kys xD" is a bit different than convincing someone to literally commit suicide.
one is a meme the other is literal

Precedent is precedent.
Good luck explaining to a jury how telling someone to kill themselves is different from what this girl did.

Here's your fatass waifu without angles. Also, its one thing to troll but to go beyond that and actually tell another white to get back in the car and finish the job when he's just going through teen angst compounded with the existential void of this baseless society would make me more anxious to die too if I felt I had no future. Its not like he was beyond saving, he was a tabula rasa.
I'd offer him my hand and hit the gym. I'm sure he just needed decent nonpozzed flakey friends.

lmfao I used to skype chat with this girl. i was the one who showed her this article before she knew about it

she thought i was cute :^)

He was a pussy and did the DNA pool a great service. The (((legal precedent))) this sets is really bad. At any point the pussy could've stopped it. All the pussy betacuck needed to do was turn off his phone, close his eyes or turn off the fucking engine. What a pussy betacuck. Now you have (((precedent))) that's going to be used in fucked up ways by the (((justice system.)))

Because one is a joke and the other is a clear attempt at getting someone to actually end their life through conversations. Me saying "die" is a bit different than someone going through the effort to make sure who she's talking to do does actually commit suicide.
He is a cuck though to be fair, suicide is the most pussy thing to do in my opinion

She probably only said that to keep contact with you for until you have a moment of weakness in your own life so she can pull that same shit on you then.

nah we only chatted occasionally about bullshit. although i am admittedly good looking

What if she was just complimenting you to use your ego against you, in hopes of later getting you to suicide? I think there is a big difference between saying kill yourself, and actually latching on intimately into an unstable person's life and trying to manipulate them into suicide.

That's highly Jewish. If you want someone dead kill them like man. This is the prime example of the vaginal jew. inb4 mgtow faggot, I want a traditional European girl just as bad as the rest of you. But evil skanks like this need to be gassed, no use for them in our future national socialist nations.

I'm sure she tells all her gullible 'victims' that. Total retching FAM, she looks like a spic, that's how ugly this took is.

Still funny reading up on some of her shenanigans, I hope she helped some desecrates to reflect and harden the fuck up.

How do I get in contact with m'lady?
no reason anons

We didn't really talk THAT much and whatever it was was just retarded Holla Forums tier shit. i'm not an ugly beta faggot who obsessed over her or anything. i remember even before this article came out she even told me that she liked to make guys feel like complete losers since it made her feel strong or something. i haven't really talked to her in a year or so.

we met off /soc/ on halfchan a couple years ago


she's half nip

this is her kek

kek. That is almost as pathetic as the guy feeling like complete loser over a worthless chink cumslut.

jesus christ i'm going through out skype conversations and she sent me dozens of pictures of cocks with "hannah" written on them.

she'd always send pictures of herself asking if she was cute or not like a typical insecure little slut lmfao

Lmao, so am I but I've had an internet woman walk the path of revenge and tried to get me to do embarrassing shit only cause I didn't sign up to Skype for a week and her finding out I was just using her for an ego boost.
With women on the net, most are crazy, petty or at least living a lie. Being able to spot manipulation via text has made me spot on IRL. Now I don't take shit from any girl. They are all bout shit test 24/7.

I wish I could backhand a bitch to even the playing field sometimes.

Ah now I know why she's cray, fat gook, got fit and now has a revenge for nerdy guys not noticing her before.

I was thinking about harassing here to the point of her losing her sanity but… she's pretty fucking lulzy tbh fams.

Also, you do know I posted a pic of her IRL at some point in her life, right?
Totally full on gook and def not jap, looks like a flip.

Yeah, hopefully some men learned the hard way, but got over their depression. When i was like 14 I felt really suicidal, and this emo slut I was dating (and all "in love" with.. Cringe) dumped me, and tried to encourage me to kill myself. I skipped the public brainwashing camps the next day, and she told everyone I prob listened to her and committed suicide all gleefully. I learned my lesson the hard way at a young age, and avoided any out of wedlock pregnancies or std's.

True

same.

NEVER be vulnerable or show weakness to much around modern women, they will grow to resent you for it, and relish in causing you pain. This girl is an extreme case, but most girls will cheat on their boyfriend or husband if he has to long of a "period of weakness". Talk to your bro instead if you need to vent depressive feelings.

I've heard of this bitch. Fuck her. She goaded him into suicide. At one point he was going to pussy out and she flat out told him to get back in the truck. Hope she gets culturally enriched by the guards.

standard booty. Just about every 4/10 or greater has as nice of ass. Makes me wonder why anyone would end their life over this standard ass gook half breed. But there are alot of mentally ill people out there.

He is beyond hope. Hang him.

Once divorce is abolished and I can slutshame and give a wife a good slap here n there I'll open up to girls again. Till then I just fuck and ditch every month or so. I really can't stand even the idea of being with a spoiled brat known as the modern woman. My city is soddom or Gomorrah of the left. Smh famalam

she's "engaged" to him; he'll be getting the courtroom raping soon enough.

You fool that will never happen in our lifetime,you will be a grandpa by then.

I want to mercy kill him. I don't know what the fuck I'd do if a gf sent me that cake as a joke. I'd probs smash it in her face, rape her and call it off.
One girl and I were fuckbuddies until she dared to tel me a rando black guy was attractive. That night I fucked her cousin instead and told her why I did so.

Let this fool dream.

Yep, I had pretty bad depression during my teens basically for the same reasons you just said. So I have alot of empathy for these guys. I got over it, working out at the gym will definitely help. Finding some nazi friends helped me alot too.
Also… Of course a gook would enjoy pressuring vulnerable people into suicide, they skin dogs, rabbits, goats, cats, monkeys, humans alive for fun.

she was pretty funny and despised these numale faggots. quite honestly i can share her sentiment

That's hilarious. I like her.

Says some faggot who's White Knighting on Holla Forums.

Yeah same, I'd say my empathy with neets and betas ends once they start advocating the death of their own race just in an attempt to cozy up to poon. I started redpiling myself when the paradigm of the left was no longer bout equality and moreso unashamedly anti white. Any white male who is OK with their own genocide is a hopeless case and I would love to execute themselves personally. They are sad pathetic husks due to no pride of ones identity.

Oh n email me fam, if ya want. Don't worry I'm not CIA just fbi.

Well, there's case precedent.

"KYS" is now a crime in the United States.

Never thought I'd see the day

I'd say kys, but I don't want to go to jail. So don't kys.

It's summer and a slow day.

We could have a lot of fun fucking with the mods by global reporting it every time someone says "kys" on any board. Cite this case as precedent.

Fuck you nigger faggot

yeah its pretty pathetic

she did a fuck ton more than that, including walking him through it every step of the way and psychologically abusing him the only way women can. Don't be an obtuse nigger. This was a good thing

Fuck you, nigger. Don't ruin my fun just because someone shoved a stick up your ass.

Oy vey, but she was a true internet warrior, killing white men is something we should encourage!

Yes, shame those that expect female criminals to be held accountable. White knight harder faggot.

haha.. Alright. email me, i'm not ATF. :P

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Found the ugly omega male who is happy because some attractive girl who would never give him any attention is going to jail and doesn't care about the dangerous legal precedent this case sets.

KILL YOURSELVES

so did the coward at least hit that crazy mess before he cobained himself?

Fucking lolbergs with this bullshit. The law is exploited by the opposite side already at their whim. This is good because it's a rare blow against feminism in the courts, but faggots like you will see it overturned and it won't stop a fucking thing when it comes to the government encroaching on your rights, because they target your rights.

Government law and courts are only impartial in that they are weapons that can be wielded by anyone. What matters is who wields them and at whom.

No one denies that she's a degenerate slut and probably a waste of a human being, but that doesn't change the fact that the precedent is frightening here. The last remaining shred of hope for National Socialism in the United States was our freedom of speech. In Europe if you criticize jews or deny the Holocaust, you are thrown in jail – things have not gotten that bad in America yet. But have we reached a point where trolling libshits on twitter with "gas yourself" now constitutes a crime where law enforcement can track us down and arrest us. Until we are in power, we must do everything we can do protect Freedom of Speech. Of course once a true National Socialist government has been established we want to do everything possible to remove kikes and anti-white rhetoric from the press.

You shouldn't have to explain that to a court after losing all your savings to hire (((lawyers))) to defend yourself, getting your name dragged through the mud, and and losing years of your life in jail while you prove yourself innocent. That's the biggest danger this precedent sets.

I doubt it. She would sleep with a strong man, not someone she is trying to manipulate into suicide. He should have killed her too if he was going to end his life.


THIS.

Correct.
Incorrect.

good.

now execute this whore.

Tf is this gay ass shit? It looks so whiny and weak, betacuck numales will hang with the kikes, shitskins and mixing whores

Polite saging

You're missing the point. Do you realize the legal precedent of jailing people for telling others to kill themselves? Twitter trolling would now be outlawed.

She didn't get convicted for texting the guy "kys". If you think otherwise you must suffer from severe autism that makes you compulsively abstract away the details of every situation.

FREEDOM OF SPEECH YOU NIGGERS

She was convicted for telling him to kill himself and then not reporting his death when she learned he died.

I expected Holla Forums to be more jew-wise than this. Kikes are clever enough not to tear apart the 1st Amendment in one fell swoop - people would notice and react. Instead they will slowly chip away at it, outlawing speech bit by bit until advocating for a new Holocaust (even though the first was a hoax) would be illegal.

There is literally zero benefit for us to compromise on freedom of speech while we're not in power. 10 years ago what she said would not be illegal, and if things don't change, twitter trolling will receive the same sentence that she did.

So as she was stepping him through the process of killing himself? You're a fucking retard.

Yeah they had hundreds of texts of it. If they didn't have overwhelming evidence of her evil, her pussy pass would have saved her. No troll is really intimately involved in someones life, like a succubus trying to manipulate an unstable teen into killing themselves. Mainly only women and jews are capable of such psychopathic trickery.

Imagine if your son had been manipulated into suicide by some evil cunt during his edgy teen years. I'd ski mask, and acid attack her whore ass a few years later if she got off and it was my boy. Make her as ugly on the outside as she is on the inside, so others aren't lured in by her.


Well, we don't have actual free speech, we aren't in power, and we are constantly targeted unfairly by the bendy kike laws, in the usa and europe. So we are already on the shit end of the stick, our courts and government already needs complete purging. Nothing wrong with us winning against some evil woman with the brain virus of (((feminism))). It's not our system, and it never will be. We need a complete restructuring of our governments.

I hope to God these are retards from reddit. They can only see in the here-and-now and can't imagine how kikes could use this verdict to our advantage.

We have zero room to capitulate on in freedom of speech. Everywhere in the world besides America outlaws "racist speech" and "Holohoax denial". This is the first step to outlawing speech where you tell people to kill themselves, even if you have no direct involvement in the act. Of course kikes would choose the more egregious example they could where dumbasses like you would agree with it. Now that the precedent has been establish, less extreme acts will be similarly punished until telling people to "kill themselves" on Twitter is also illegal. It's only a matter of time.


Agreed, but America has it a lot better than other nations. Like I said, I can walk around with a Hakenkreuz around my arm and shout "the Holocaust never happened but it should have" and I might get beat up, but I wouldn't be sent to jail. In Europe the punishment would be quite severe. You are marching yourself to the scaffold if you so willingly sacrifice any degree of speech freedom.

**how kikes could use this verdict to their advantage

She told a friend that she was on the phone with him while he was in the car trying to asphyxiate himself. He told her he was scared and got out of the vehicle at which point she instructed him to 'get back in'. My understanding is that it was that instruction alone which was legally actionable as the prior communications were free speech. That verbal instruction crossed the line from free speech into fire n the crowded theater territory because there was a clear and present danger, which has always placed certain limits on the right.

Now folk can be charged for trolling someone to death.
Deal with it nerds.

freudian slip?

you fags tripping out about how trolls can now be implicated forget that she was his fucking girlfriend. it's much deeper than just trolling someone to death. get a fucking gf some day and you'll understand.

Typing on a phone, actually made a number of grammatical errors.

What in my post was pro-jewish or anti-white, may I ask?

Yes, I agree. But, I do think the only way to save our freedoms long term is a new national socialist government. Its been a slow but steady removal of all of our freedoms in America with no signs of slowing down. We absolutely must not capitulate on any of our freedoms, but ultimately we will have to form our own ethnostates and remove the kiked american and European governments, or die out as a race along with our freedoms.


All of us should be using VPN's and treat our anonymity as something as precious as our daughters virginity anyways. We don't have the pussy pass that likely would have saved her if the evidence wasn't so damning. We are "muh ebil nazissss"

Listen here fellow pede we can't allow this travesty of justice to slide. We NEED to mobilize a double-dildo strategy here. You guys take to twitter and white knight until your balls explode out of frustration and I'll set up the gofundme page. If we work hard enough we can free here just like Bahar Mustafa! HAHAHA Those fucking SJWs won't know what to think once we claim the higher ground~!@

I 100% agree. America and Europe has never been weaker and facing the threat of demographic extinction than under the rule of liberal democracies.

This is why I'm flabbergasted to see so many Holla Forumsacks cheering on the courts reducing what little speech freedoms we have. Of course it's a minor reduction, but these small abrogations add up year after year, and they can't see a decade into the future where a precedent like this could one day be used to outlaw twitter trolling.

Freedom of Speech is our greatest weapon until we are in power. It's the only thing stopping kikes from throwing us in jail for spreading holohoax truth. Once we've established a true National Socialist state I'm all for clamping down on speech of jews and communists, but until that time we cannot sacrifice an inch.

If you look up the actual law you'll see it says it's only illegal when you take a direct part in murder or give weapons/methods to cause a suicide. I don't know whether she just say die lol or not but if she did then I was wrong.

Racemixing, not even once

Freedom of speech isn't actually a traditionalist ideal. For instance, freedom from the consequences of subversive expression is detrimental to the folk. The reason things like hate speech laws are detested is not because they limit expression, but because they enforce an unnatural regime which is destructive to the nation.

They're paying you too much.

wew lad so you're an oblivious, fivehead faggot who believes every girl wants to fuck him? The bitch is rank you retarded crypto beta.

What is a danger eyebrow?

Some women like to change or remove their eyebrows. Some shave them off then draw on new ones with makeup, some shave off parts, some dye them, some shave them off completely. It never makes them look better and indicates immediately they are either a hooker, crazy, or both. Look for it in public, hispanic women nearly always do this.

So now "kill yourself" is not protected under free speech. So if I say "you should hit yourself" ill be charged with assault. If I say "kill yourself" then ill be charged with manslaughter.

Fuck them and fuck anyone that thinks this is ok. While she is a cunt, not giving a shit if someone dies is not really something that needs to be jailed. Thanks thought crime.

no one cares about your justification, cuck

If you're a weak enough faggot to kill yourself because of some fivehead slut, you deserve to be dead.
He deserved to be dead as soon as he let conversation steer in that direction. How do you get there in conversation with a normal non-suicidal person, other than childishly barking kys at them?
He saught out her encouragement because he wanted to die and he was too much of a pussy to go through with it.

She exposes American women for the callous, heartless cunts they are, but this is still a gross misunderstanding and application of the law. I wonder how many posts are made telling people to kill themselves on the internet every day. Under this ridiculous precedent every single one of those would be litigable.


They're not millennials. Gen Z.

It ain't freedom of speech. Otherwise Manson would be free, because he didn't kill anyone. He just talked people into killing other people.

Nice.

Found the woman.

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They do

Get charged with manslaughter from the internet police

It's a tranny right? It's a tranny.

I'd read he and she considered themselves boyfriend/girlfriend but he hadn't been in her physical presence in a year before he killed himself. She was a psychopath and he was a cuckboi dope.

GIVE HER LIFE OR A GREATER SENTENCE

The retard hadn't been in her physical presence for at least one year. Something seems to be missing.

(((They))) will use this legal precedent against us.

ay oh HOLD UP IS YOU SAYIN WEEZ CAN GO TO JAIL IF WE TELL OPs a FAG AND GO KILL YO SELF DIS BE THOUGHT CRIMES AND SHIT

I don't give a single fuck if it's traditionalist. I'm a fucking American and I have the right to say anything I fucking please. Just because something is tradition doesn't mean that it's good.

If that's the case then Manson shouldn't have been imprisoned.

lol, bitch just got fat, only a year since her last article about catcalls.

Jews did this. Nice isnt supposed to be a negative trait. Abusive isnt supposed to be desirable. Its a symptom of our culture, which has been undermined by kikes. Women want the guy who throw them off the cliff to their deaths, and pour acid on their face, not the guy who buys them roses.

Btw her state doesnt have assisted suicide criminality, and they charged her under manslaughter. Because she had instructed him on the method of killing himself, knew the truck had a pipe connected to it, knew his state of mind etc etc.. and then told him to get back in the truck, and finish the job - it was a bit more than just "kill yourself" and he did it.

Weak faggot confirmed
The legal precedent means that if mentally ill some faggot kills himself on stream because everyone in the chat is telling him to anhero, they're all responsible for accidental manslaughter
Still the cunt is clearly responsible for something

Not necessarily because she played a part in setting up the suicide and coached him on how to do it etc. Its also a state ruling, could be overturned etc etc. Its nothing to get excited about.

freedom of speech is necessary you dumbass, without free speech you don't find the truth, and end up making idiotic decisions, like female suffrage, prohibition, or needless wars

5 cents have been deposited in your bank account

Retard. This is simply setting up more ways to crush the white man. Troll on black twitter and one of the monkeys you interacted with chimps out or an heroes? Congrats, now you're somehow culpable.

Rip trolling. T_D Holla Forums will somehow defend this obvious move to establish cyber police.

Keep switching IPs faggot.

Lurk for 5 years before posting again.

No, he should have raped her, and I'm serious about this. When a woman behaves like this she just wants her pussy fucking obliterated.

More likely: the father and/or mother are either rich or politically well-connected. This is invariably the case when something "unprecedented" happens and it mysteriously only works in that one court case.

Yeah, we'll see when the guy that sent Eichenwald the flashing tweet gets convicted.

Yes, it has nothing to do with precedent. If its a kike, rich person, or politician the justice system will go through all sorts of contortions to produce the intended result. In a sane world the Eichenwald case would have been thrown out right away.

checked, white knight faggots suck
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Cut the bullshit about freedom of speech. Her conviction had nothing to do with freedom of speech and everything to do with what she did. She intentially manipulated this man into killing himself, so she could shower herself in attention as the victim of a suicide victim.

Then when he did it, she notified no one. Perhaps they could have saved him had she called earlier and notified them that he was trying to do it.

The judge flat out ruled that it was her actions that she was condemned for not her words. Her words only highlighted her actions.

I find it funny though, if this were a man who convinced a woman to commit suicide you white knights would demand he be hanged.

telling someone online to kill themselves

manipulating a damaged weak guy (or girl) personally known to you over hundreds of conversations to kill themselves and then watching them do it.

These are not the same things and I doubt even the oiliest of talmudic logic could merge them.

Ok it prolly could, but I still don't see this verdict as dangerous. I see it as justice meted out to a psychopath.

Got in a discussion today.. Does anyone have any evidence of this whore being a liberal? She seems yo have deleted all of her tweets in damage control.

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This is a terrible legal precedent along the lines of prosecuting people for verbal and online bullying. It's not as if she was caring for a child and did nothing. He was a grown ass albeit a PUSSY man that decided to kill himself all because of attention or lack-thereof from his ex. There is no morally greater side here, he's an idiot and she's cold, but this shouldn't be criminal. All of this bullshit spawns from the government deciding that it has a say in whether or not someone is allowed to kill themselves - because don't you know, goyim, that you're property of the government.

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BECAUSE OF HER VAGINA
if it was a guy who had done it noone would complain about being asspained

neo marxism is satanic

they can still appeal
then human rights court
it's a woman user and she never did it

Nigger, what generation exactly do you think comprises the majority of Holla Forums? If it wasn't for us you'd still be getting your news from shitbag old-media talking heads. This is not a gauntlet you want to throw.

Charles Manson literally did nothing fucking wrong tho.

It's time to stop posting, retard. This cunt got what was coming to her.

Agree, she is cute af; he was too beta to put her in place.

I had to explain the Great fucking Gatsby to one recently. I thought they taught this in school?

I rather have schools teach other books than that one.

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Must feel great to be so stupid as to not even read the fucking article.

Evil must be eradicated.

You faggots don't get it, they're lining up to use this on us.
At most this should be a form of undue influence. Not fucking manslaughter.

Apparently you now have a duty of care to a person if you shitpost to them.
Even though, that person could easily remove themselves from that "toxic environment".

How?
There is no direct causal link. No direct conduct, no conduct causing something to kill him other than his own personal whim and will.
How the fuck did she "cause" his death. Ultimately, he caused his own death directly - by literally committing suicide.

What a disgusting judgement. It's like they're diminishing people's responsibility for their own actions.
Basically, it's never your fault if there is outside influence.
Murder someone? Oh I was pressured into it.
Kill yourself? Oh I was pressured into it.

Basically, they're removing the individuals responsibility from themselves.
Clearly paving the way for more PC bullshit.

Common sense is dead so I don't know if the following is worth much, but for what it's worth:

It strikes me this is a lot different than just saying "gas yourself" or "fuck off and die," etc. on some Uzbekistani frogfeel chatboard. She "groomed" him for suicide for weeks, sending him numerous messages, talking him out of his doubts, etc. It was a long, ongoing process of deliberately and specifically trying to get this slob to kill himself.

And if you look at some of the legal commentary and arguments made during the trial, a major componant of the verdict was the fact that she was talking him through his final act in real time, and did not take any steps to get him to stop. Nor did she contact the authorities to say "there is a CO poisoning in progress at such-and-such address." This is what put the teeth in the reckless endangerment/ manslaughter charges.

I'd still sandblast her womb with my seed.

Checked and agreed. Whore deserves to rot in prison.

That's why it should be a form of duress perhaps, or undue influence or unconscionable actions / anything exploiting a special disadvantage - here being the emotional attachment.

Manslaughter is a BIG fucking leap. Ultimately, he killed himself, not her. He used his own will to make a decision.
She merely influenced that will.. but did not have complete control. That would require significant conditioning. Like complete psychological brainwashing, possibly through drugs and torture.
Words and emotional attachment fall too far short of that.
He ultimately could have restrained her from doing what she did. He knew her influence was a negative impact to him. He knew that he could have easily prevented her from influencing him.
Manslaughter, to me, requires the inability to do that. Like he's locked in a room and then told to kill himself. Or he's drugged. Or she get's/pays the community to repeat her action - effective imprisonment of his will. Imprisonment of the will is key here. I think this case falls short.

Oh and you should not have a duty of care to a person if they're about to kill themselves and you have notice of it. Ultimately it is their prerogative. Otherwise that could create significant functional issues.
What happens then?
Is that manslaughter? Is there a duty of care there?
Is there negligent manslaughter? Intentional manslaughter?

I think it's rediculous that they attach manslaughter to this form of situation. It's fucking extreme.
I think lesser penalty may be there, possibly a form of duty of care, perhaps a slap on the wrist.
Not manslaughter. That's a significant punishment for such a mild discrepancy of behaiviour.

In this case it would be a breach of this duty plus a form of duress/UI/uncons. conduct.
People need to also be told that they have a duty of care for these situations. Most people would not know this. It's a confusing, perplexing situation.

In fact there needs to be policy to educated the masses that you need to contact authorities if you know someone is about to an hero.

I think you missed the part where she engaged in sustained psychological warfare to get him to an hero. Not to mention she was on the phone with him as he did it and basically walked him through it.

This is not about failing to tell the authorities or duty of care its about an evil whore that wanted this guy dead and manipulated him into making it happen.

This. Anyone that defends the decision is a weak cuck.

I didn't, he had every right to restrain her. He chose not to.
And ultimately, he made the final decision. He could have taken other precautions.

I think she needs to be charged for lesser offences here. Nuisance might be the least she could get, but as I said, she did influence his attachment.
But that was never enough to obtain complete dominance.

He was not that weak to lose his will completely. Ultimately he made the decision. Furthermore, there needs to be policy that makes people take more responsibility for themselves. He was far too submissive to her will.

I don't care if she was a bitch/cunt. The end of the day - she should be punished for the influence, not the ultimate cause of death.
I don't think the "but for" test is enough in this situation. While she did contribute, I think there were many other factors involved here. Personal issues that made his decision. Other outside factors.
She could not be the only cause for the action. Furthermore you must consider the power of that man's will to reject the will of others. I don't think mere words and exploitation of affection is enough.

You're effectively saying that he had no will in this case. That contradicts his ability to actually kill himself. You need will to commit that action to a degree

I think my IP switched..

You can't convince someone to commit suicide. Fuck betas.

Completely agree. Thank fucking God this little loser killed himself, his kids would grow up to be race traitors.

Well.. there are extreme situations (like drug brainwashing, torture, imprisonment, etc).
But not this situation.

The legal precedent will allow any whore that hurt herself to blame it on the male for saying mean things thing to her.

Torture and imprisonment are crimes on their own, saying things is no crime.

They convicted her for LITERALLY hurting that cucks FEELINGS

Installs a duty to the person to not let them die. Their will and body is tethered to the controller's will.

This situation is nothing like that. It just simply isn't enough. It's just manipulation of attachment. An attachment create from that individuals own will. He should have had the ability to break that off. He chose not to.
He submitted. He cucked himself. Ultimate cuckery through death.

Oh well, an alpha white female that could give birth to SUPERIOR white males got now convicted because some fucking loser killed himself. A shame..

That brings up a new question:
Ultimately, this becomes animal mistreatment :^)


Self-destrction is sin from memory.

Ok first off let me say that I am in no way giving this weak betafag a free pass. Honestly we are better off without him. That said what matters here is this girl acted ==intentionally== even if she didn't physically do anything she had Mens Rea. She developed a plan and carried it out successfully, resulting in this guys death.

Lets imagine for a second that instead of manipulating him into killing himself she manipulated some other dude into killing him. We would be looking at accessory to murder at the very least if not accomplice. Well in our situation the intention was the same, the method was the same (manipulation) and the end result was the same.

I agree she acted intentionally.
But the act itself was not enough. Intention doesn't come into it.

Not a similar situation. What matters is that this was suicide. The only will that pulled the trigger was the individual's.

If another man killed him, that'd be murder. Not manslaughter.
Then she'd be accessory to it. This would become two people plotting and convincing each other to kill another.

That doesn't happen when it's suicide.

Well were just going to have to agree to disagree. From my point of view this is basically a murder and I think she got off lightly.


Yeah its great until one day she snaps, drowns your kids in the pool and burns down the house.

She isn't white, nigger. Look it up.

You watch too much mgtcuck


huh

Do it faggot, marry a crazy cunt. Believe that you've fixed her because she uses your ego against you, stroking it in a way to manipulate you. Then, when she's broken you, enjoy the following divorce and lawyer rape.
White knights like you are infinitely more pathetic than the guy that killed himself because his psychopath "girlfriend" manipulated him into doing so.
Talking tough does not protect you from this.

Why the fuck wasn't there a jury?

As if so called "cyber bullying" wasn't bad enough. Now a (((judge))) just invented cyber murder out of thin air.

Intention doesn't mean shit without action.
The action makes this nowhere near murder.


This is clearly an attempt to curb on online trolls.
I bet they'll use this precedent on us soon.

Also there will likely be an appeal.

As the accused it is your option to chose a judge or jury trial.

Tough call, both would have given biased judgements.

land of the free

damned if you do and damned if you don't.

wait, so tl;dr is if I tell someone to kys then I can get charged with manslaughter?

BITTER BETACUCK