How many former Nazis, AnCaps, Reactionaries, Fascists, etc. are on this board...

How many former Nazis, AnCaps, Reactionaries, Fascists, etc. are on this board? Do any have any stories to share on their swing to leftism?

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I'm an ex-fascist tbh, ill write in a vew hours how i got from homosexuality in uniform to queer ultraviolence tbh.

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I am still a 3rd positionist, I just come here to shitpost
and no, I don't hate non-white people or call them shitskins nor have I ever done that IRL

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I did have a short-lived alt-right phase but

Reading in general, and possibly Bataille in particular (Theory of Religion) saved me.

I really miss mysticism, occult and esotericism. We need that in leftypol. We need meme magic.

*but I managed to escape.

What the alt-right does is to get you skeptical about social democracy.

The catch is that you fall into a dialectical trap: "I must become everything the libs hate."

Whereas if you are consistent enough with your skepticism, you will find faults also in conservatism, etc.

Ultimately I took Žižek's third pill:
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Eventually I'll get to Hegel and see for myself if we can get some metaphysics going on.

Bataille was also interested in mysticism despite being a commie.

The good news is that all that research on theology and religions I did in my alt-right phase turned out to be far more useful than I imagined. Every philosopher ever talks about them, yes, including Marx and Nietzsche.

No we don't.

fag


Are you still racist?

I'm a technocrat/transhumanist. I dunno how well the idea of a society run by scientists and engineers or better yet an omnipotent AI sits with Holla Forums but normal Holla Forums doesn't seem to like it. I'm aware it will probably never happen in my lifetime but I personally am strongly attracted to it, particularly the idea of humanity getting past its fear of genetic and mechanical augmentation.

Oh I forgot to add, I used to be full facist, but I realized its traditionalist nature got in the way of genetic engineering.

I would like for eventually AI to take care of the role of fulfilling the wishes of humanity, with democratic decisions on longterm and shortterm goals deciding what it prioritizes but the actual system and logic being left up to them so as to avoid a lot of problems we have today, but I think we'll have to accept a possibly unsustainable communist revolution before automation is at that point. Things are too fucked up for us to wait much longer.

Only a human society can offer the full spectrum of positive experience to humans. Only democratic autonomy can prevent corruption and power misuse in the long term as it gives the man who holds the rights the direct means to protect them.

Transhumanism is dope though.

you don't even know what it means
pro tip: it's not your fucking simpleton idea of "contradiction"

I used to be an fashy. But more of the italian kind. Masturbating to futurism, d'Annunizo, Marinetti and somesuch.

In a way, russian futurists, who were commies.

In theorywise, Adorno and the Frankfurt Schule and Debord.

I still get the biggest erections from uniforms and Mishima tho

Well, Stalin didn't understand dialectics either, so no big deal.

I wouldn't say that
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Well the thing is that a democracy is necessary because humans as they are now are prone to abusing power. But if we engineer a human who has his sense of responsibility intact but his ambition lopped off, then we could probably use his caste as the ruling party while us normal humans do whatever. Same with a super intelligent AI. Either he kills us all or manages us very well, but to me its a moot point either way.

Nope.

I wasn't even that big of a racist, the idea was more of a getting cultures to develop separately.

Again, the dialectical trap is to try to prevent imperialism with more idpol. What could possibly go wrong?

As if borders ever saved one from imperialism. Not even the Jews with their insular communities and laws on mixed marriages could prevent their folks from being assimilated left and right in four millennia of history, and of course we know how seriously Holla Forums takes the Jews.


Well, good thing it's not my idea, then.

This is about joining the camp of the guys supporting the antithesis that corresponds to the thesis that is currently rubbing you the wrong way.

Social democracy is heavily interested in describing all of its opponents (i.e. including Holla Forums) having generic features of alt-righters for propaganda purposes.

To fall into the dialectical trap is that to unconsciously become such yourself, effectively doing to yourself what those who would like to control history, and its unfolding discourse, do prefer.

I was a keynesian liberal who thought social democracy and muh small businesses was all that would be needed.

I think that's most of us

Maybe. I always knew there was something wrong with the system, I was just under the delusion it could be saved.

I was never strongly right-wing even after years of browsing Holla Forums, but I still use the Holla Forums lingo and like certain racist jokes if they're smart. I actually say shekels more than money now, even in casual conversations

I pretty much didn't care about politics at all. The only thing politics related I had contact with were a few leftist values. A few years ago I visited 4chan and thought it was cool because it's "so edgy xD". Later on I discovered Holla Forums, I was extremely confused after seeing one or two threads about immigration. This in-out group/"we're always right" mentality at first gave me the impression that I was definitely wrong about certain ideas I've had and it made me feel uncomfortable to such a degree that I didn't want to have any contact with the site anymore. Then, after about three days of not being able to shake of this feeling I decided to do some research and it turned out, much to my delight, that literally every Holla Forumstard is a fucking idiot. However, my journey didn't end there, I grew accustomed to the feeling of superiority that goes along with being able to "btfo" people. Soon Holla Forumstards weren't enough anymore, they were easy targets, I wanted that feeling in the context of people that I met in everyday life. At that point I got into Holla Forums and started reading actual theory. The more theory I read and the more I hear/read about individuals that face the harsh realities of capitalism the more genuine my interest becomes. I feel like I'm turning away from the "btfo"-route and instead I'm shifting towards what you could call a more "genuine" approach. I'm starting to care about myself and the people around me.

My political views have pretty much only changed in regards to capitalism. I had a few unreflected post keynesian views on the economy but nowadays I reject the system in its entirety.

Fuck Paganism. What the left needs is Catholicism.

No. Besides, keeping knowledge/wisdom from the "unworthy and unwashed" does not comport with leftism and democratic ideals.

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I used to be minarchist lolbert that used to think I was in the middle and that I was more superior than everybody else. Then I realized how stupid lolbertarianism is and how the free market won't balance things out and I became a liberal. Then while I was a liberal I started to find more about socialist experiments that actually worked and then I became interested in political theory and then I finally realized that communism is not impossible like I used to think.

Let the Nazis keep their bullshit.

We're about materialism.

Next stop Fascism

Wow did learn that from Zeitgeist, you heathen?

i used to be a ba'athist/nationalist before I was a full communist if that counts

She should be under a pile of rocks

save me from the memes

Well, libertarians are just liberals without the empathy that redeems them…

If the hairs on her face are like that I don't even want to imagine the terrors that might reside down beyond.

leave my aibrowfu alone

Faggot

When I was younger, I was actually a member of the Mississippi Tea Party - imagine just how godawful and backwards it was, then multiply that by 2000. God, country, guns and white pride was the name of the game. I religiously listened to Rush Limbaugh and read all of his and his brother's books, as well as Sean Hannity, Ben Stein, Bill O'Rielly, Glenn Beck and Michael Savage.

The one thing, oddly enough, that kept me from fully embracing it, though, was my sexuality. Being a bisexual with tons of fetishes isn't exactly par for the course, and hearing all the hate for people like myself made me feel like something was just…wrong…about the whole thing. I wasn't welcome, I would never be welcome, so why would I contribute to a system that would purge my kind from existence if it got the chance?

So I became a liberal democrat, thinking them the obvious answer. Around this time, my connection to Christianity - a religion I adopted because I was born into it, much like conservatism - died off. So now I had even less right wing mentality, and I filled the void with stuff like TYT, Secular Talk, Sam Seder and the like.

But again, something was…wrong. Liberals were just as power hungry and controlling as the Conservatives. The minority groups they said they supported received nothing but calls to vote for them. We were just being exploited for being different, and the only profit went to those in power, who acted no differently than their right wing counterparts.

So I tried Alt-Right, I tried Centrism, I tried Libertarianism, I tried Egalitarianism, I tried Anarchism, I tried everything.

And everything kept coming back to one thing: Rich people waving carrots to get the disenfranchised to work for them.

I didn't even want to consider communism. It was just like modern day Nazis in my book, a clear and present evil. Brainwashing, starvation, cruelty, torture, mass executions…the idea was horrific.

And then, funnily enough, one day out of morbid curiosity I decided to see what Linux was about. And for the first time, because of my love of software, I took a crash course communism because I found out that Richard Stallman was essentially communist, and I was impressed at the quality of a completely community created series of systems. The idea that a non-commercial, non-corporate product could be that good and have that much put into it shocked me.

So I gave communism a real good look, decided to brave the waters of Holla Forums, got weirded out by a fresh brand of memes I had no understanding of the meaning of, and now I am full commie.

It's a political group for once not driven by money, power and moral ideology, and the more I look into it the more it just makes sense.

PS, sorry for being spooky, most American political leanings are driven by spooks.

Condolences

Shit just put a tear in my eye

more like all

Glad to have you.

Well at least you are trying one of the two taboo ideologies, I can't wait until you tiptoe to the other

Nazis want to kill gays too so comrade faggot probably aint gonna like you.

Nobody cares about gays unless they are making a show of the party, there was a lot of fags in the party. Same went for Religion, you didn't start ranting about Paganism or Christianity as it was just a fracture point.

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No, it's more keep your dick sucking to yourself we're trying to do something with Germany here and a whole load of cocksuckers mincing around is not going to do it image wise.

Except for the whole "exterminate gays" part.

You had to be a fucking public mincer to get shoahs, and even then it was a prision sentence like Oscar Wilde. Some were sent to camps for being extroverted faggots, tough shit.

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You were never alt-right to begin with, just a bit against political correctness and somewhat larpy. Were you stuck in libertarianism for a long time?

You do realise many gay men would have thought and do think the same way, and they aren't self hating, they just realise the poz is out of control and hetrosexual nuclear family is the ideal.

No, I don't think many gay men want to kill those who are a little more extroverted or worship at the altar of the bourgeois family. Stay delusional though.

How is Stallman "essentially communist"?

I used to be a big Dugin worshiping Turd Positionist, I wasn't really ever a Stormfag though. I still have a lot of respect for the early Italian National Syndicalists and contemporary turd position groups like the SSNP, Casa Pound, and the Nazbols. I have zero respect for the generic white nationalists that Holla Forums associates with "fascism" though.

You may be a communist, but you are amongst friends here, boss

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I feel like the left hand path goes well with being a radical leftist, personally.

This. Too bad Satanposted-chan has already made satanism a meme around these parts

I don't know if he's ever said he was communist, but his anti-corporate and anti-copyright ideals are at the heart of communism

I'm actually a white nationalist but I like hanging out with leftys because both IRL and on this board they are really chill cool people.


Holla Forums is too paranoid and /politics/ is only populated by:

The European flavor of the alt-right is heavier on autonomies, for example, secessionism as with Scotland, Catalunya - and you might also count Brexit too - are passionately followed, and you're going to see a lot of Russian flags being waved no matter the country you're in.

To a certain extent the thingy in Crimea manages to count as an (ethnically-based) secession, in which "oppressed" Russians free themselves from the Ukrainian imperialists - even though everything was piloted by Putin, his interests, and his weapons

He had his guys' plans on how to take Crimea prepared for years, and seized the moment of weakness in the government of Ukraine. We also saw the extent of the usefulness of NATO in preventing this. To your Holla Forumsyp the political analysis ultimately boils down to: "Putin strong, Obama weak", which isn't wrong, but shallow.

It does make sense for you to point out my inability to surrender to racism, so unlike a proper alt-righter, as allowing for a way out, which I was bound to find.

Not that long, and it was classical liberalism, as in: "Let's go back to the times before we actually cared about liberty, and Rawls hadn't divided liberalism into libertarians and what Americans call liberals", but I really didn't do my homework on economics.

Holla Forums is no stranger to accusing people who don't toe the capitalist line of being "just a leftist that happens to be racist", so you can imagine by yourself how long can the alt-right phase of such a person can be when the racism isn't sincere.

I know there must be a lot of guys down there that aren't completely drunk with the ideology.

They're using the memes as a way to get some measure of compensation from those that upset them.

The US election is coming, perhaps a crisis of faith in this not-a-movement is in order.

*Let's go back to the times when we actually cared about liberty
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meme magic is a spook to fight other spooks

Anyone who was ever a fascist needs to be purged tbqh

I thought Scottish secessionists were mostly social democrats "cultural nationalists" that have a kneejerk love for anything they believe the English (as personified by a middle class Tory voter) hates, and vice versa?

just like Holla Forums, ofcourse

I guess it was just realizing that it was possible to think SJWs were wrong while also supporting workers.

Reactionary-ish.

Honestly, I lived in the real world for a bit and came to realise that it sucked, and would hardly be better if only some military aristocracy were in charge.

I'm going to give you a little something you can't take off.

Vai dormir, Campos.

"Fascism" isn't authoritarian racism or whatever the fuck you think it means. Read Sorel and Gentile.

She's actual from one of the goofiest sects too, the Joy of Satan. I wonder if we have any 9ers or Chaos Gnostics on Holla Forums.

Satanists are really the goofiest sect of the LHP.
Besides, RHP and LHP are neither "leftist" or "rightist" politically. You could be a RHP leftist.

I say this as a LHP practitioner.


That sort of thinking doesn't really occur in modern occultism. At least, not among reasonable people.

Former AnCap here.

I gre up as a Conservative, because government bad. The thing is I liked weed and didn't hate gays, so I became a Libertarian. In America, Socialism = Big Gubmint, so no way I was getting into that shit.

I didn't find out about shit like Anarchist Communism and Mutualism until after my conversion to total AnCap, and wondered why these people didn't like me if I hated the state too.

I later figured out that capitalism is as coercive as the state, and jumped ship to real Market Anarchism. But then I read Stirner and realized rights are just a spook.

Pic Related: It's what I legit thought AnCap was, because I didn't understand what Socialism really meant. tbh, a good portion of Libertarians/AnCaps are really LibSocs/Mutualists, but terms like Socialism are all sorts of fucked up stateside.

I'm a former nazi, my views starting changing after i read Thomas Sowell's 'Intellectuals and Race'

I used to a be very fervent Shia nationalist. Parents are quite religious, and came to the UAE from Pakistan, though unlike most immigrants we were middle class. I grew up in the mosque, really only spent time there and School in my youth. The religous leader would teach me quite a bit, and I would debate with him too.

When I was 15 I started getting interested in politics and I asked the religous leader about what Shia Islam had to say about poverty and the terrible working conditions.

He told me all about how imam Ali's government had no poor and how he seized conquered farmland and gave it back to farmers and what other imams had to say about.

I became convinced Shi'itism was the answer to all the problems.

That continued till I was 20 years, when I discovered the side of the internet that was there not just for social media amd research. Then I became a leftist. Which I am now. I want to get involved here, and I hear there are secret groups trying to infiltrate and radicalize the workers here. Unfortunately I don't know anything about it, also they are obviously illegal, and since police state is heavy here, it is extremely dangerous to inquire about it.

Wow, that was my life story. Oh well

Lal salam brother. Good luck.

I've known enough occultists, including high ranking members of A∴A∴, to know that it does occur. A lot. They are all reactionary scum and batshit crazy to boot.

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how about you go suck that state dept dick cockhol, its not that the US didnt try to take all of ukraine, its that their proxy pigdogs got their ass handed to them nigger


crimea has been a russian base for decades now, they made a very wise move securing it, it kept nato from moving even closer to russias borders, nevermind the actual fucking vote.

wassnt much voting going on at the maidan, jsut bunring pregnant women iirc you fucking pissant

say what you will about the goddamned ivans, but anyone with a fucking smidgen of intellect and integrity realizes who the fucking aggressor is in all of this, take your fucking cnn lies and choke on them nigger, your political "evolution" is artificial and shit, you are a whiny liberal or a shill and you need a few good slaps to the face at least