Playerbases that been betrayed

Is there any playerbases that been betrayed As badly as Fans of Star Wars Galaxies? Overnight SOE devs turned Star Wars galaxies into a WoW clone. And throw out it's 100% player driven economy.

Runescape. Jagex's typical approach to every problem is to sledgehammer it with complete disregard to how many other things they destroy in the process. This is how they managed to ruin free trade, the wilderness, and darkscape.

Hello

user why, it hurts so much. Wattchewant even stopped making warframe animations.

Its interesting how Adam calls Morgan a whore and looks at a porn mag during the clip. Doing that today would get you crucified. It just goes to show you have pc everything has become.

Whats up with the futuristic guy having that huge crotch gap? He has the body of a man but a cunt between his legs. In the the Warframe universe can people change their bodies like Ghost in the Shell? I suppose him and his partner were not satisfied with adoption so he decided to take things to the next level.

his feet are apart

the street fighter fans seem to get shit on by capcom a lot, but like the battered housewives they are they keep buying SF products

Are there any good private servers for Star Wars Galaxies?

are there any that havent?

What's wrong fellow tenno? Devteam constantly keeps in touch with the playerbase, listens and reflects. Can't you appreciate all the hard work? Aren't you ungrateful little piece of shit? I bet you sympathise with greneer too.


Warframes aren't humans. They don't abide human physiology. Or psychology.

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Thanks for proving my point, fellow tenno,

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SOE with Planetside and BFRs, and SOE with Planetsde and its shitty reboot sequel. Planetside just got shat on by SOE in lots of ways.

That's nothing. Classic X-play had a running gag of Adam cross dressing and getting implied gang raped by homosexuals. God hand review was one big gay joke

Any good private servers

#Zhaandidnothingwrong

Mass Effect - Even though edgelords like to "it was always shit"

And pic related.

Global Agenda

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Even the name of the game; Richard Garriot was betrayed.
Some real shady shit that, posting a fake resignation and closing down the game whilest he's in fucking space promoting his game they just shut down

Garriot is shit now. His new game fits perfectly into this thread.

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I think even the people who liked that shit pile have moved on by now.

Guild Wars 2 players love Guild Wars 2.

You meant to say Guild War 1 players about Guild Wars 2.

Really? My cousin still plays it and he bought the shitty excuse for an expansion. I was on the forums when they announced the base game would be f2p and the expansion would cost full price. A lot of people pissed off at Anet, but whenever they did respond it was just troll replies.

All the actual talent left after Eye of the North, it should come as no surprise that the second game is just a husk of the first.

Microsoft Flight Sim fans.

The flight sim community is so fucking awful that I got my pilot's license rather than deal with their shit. They can wallow in Microsoft's horseshit and defend their decade-old game to the death, for all I care. They deserve being abused by MS like this.

Fly a plane into Microsoft's headquarters if you're so mad then.

That's kind of like asking how the fuck Nekros fit a human head into his helmet.
Answer is they're literally not humans. The warframe is a biomechanical humanoid RC car for autistic moon children.
A fucking shame about that game.


Game?
Yes, I am joking in the line above. Is the paper work for flying as much work/trouble as it seems?

Man that's scary.

Don't be silly, user.


Not really. Just have to do some basic calculations, fill in 1-5 forms, call up the local flight information region to file a flight plan if you need it, and off you go. When you come back, you do 1-5 forms, basic calculations, and close your flight plan. Easy.

Keeping up with the gorillion radio calls in busy airspace is murder though.

-Raped both their franchises
-Went full kike with monetization
-Promises just as bad as any shitty Kikestarter in full games and Early Access
-Rapes Killing Tiles 2 for console users and casuals along with kikery
-Gives modders, position of which they started with, the shaft
-Goes SJW
-Starts other projects and finishes them first
And has barely any content (which they promised, a vehicle every two months, I havent forgotten) , especially in comparison with the previous games/mods.

Fuck Tripjew, thank God I never feel for Killing Floor 2.

*Positing on which they started
*Fell
Goddamn

SWG went back to normal with the fan servers. SWG-Emu is alive, SWG-Reborn is alive but think uses the WoW knockoff, etc.

I dunno. I think the problem there is a disconnect or a problem with communication. Not an outright betrayal.

Though, given the nature of how they update, if you were passionate about something they changed then I could see it feeling like a betrayal.

Regardless, not really as bad as SW:G


Now here's some food for thought, though it was over a much longer time frame, World of Warcraft. Or really just Blizzard in general.

700 hours in kf1 playing kf2 the players are so fucking bad. i joined a suicidal game and saw this dude blow 4 rounds of his shitty demo pistol on a bloat and not kill it
they dont know the golden rule of killing floor, turn around theres always a clot or cralwer behind you.

Why would you they know anything?
They can solo normal after playing 5 rounds.

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How about Fallout fans?

Wattchewant stopped doing fucking anything.
Liger stopped making Warframe drawings as well, although he still makes skins for the game. He might as well work for DE at this point.

That basically Bethesdas MO though

Dont forget Doom and soon to be Quake and Prey

He was a H A C K F R A U D to begin with.
His game was pretty much just a worse version of Blood Money with anime girls, the only reason anybody gave a shit about it is because he came here.

He's just going the way of Notch without any of the immediate appeal to autistic children with rich parents who just want a cheap babysitter.

He left because he couldn't handle criticism, preferred to get his dick sucked by Reddit and Twitter, and now he's basking in their praise. He'll swing to the other side of the pendulum, end up indoctrinated a bit, slip up and say something doubleplusungood, then break down and disappear.

Since he started on an imageboard, he'll reappear in a year or two not giving a fuck about anything. Not continuing with game development most likely, but he'll realize just how much of a slowly insidious and brain-damaging shitpile the Reddit end of the internet is. Imageboards are outwardly callous and insulting, but Reddit hides a deep and utter contempt for everything that isn't ideologically doubleplusgood with a veneer of civilization.

The ride has just begun.

Tabula Rasa was flawed yes, but it had solid ideas behind it.

The problem stemmed from the fact that instead of funneling the money back into the game for further development, refinement, and MUCH NEEDED bug fixes, Richard decides to spend that money to go into space.

By all means the publisher dicking him was entirely justified.

If anything, his latest game, Shroud of the Avatar, is another kikestarter disaster. It's ugly, it plays poorly, it's broken, but it also has pay to win elements to it and you can buy virtual castles for measly sums of 12k USD. Mind you, in contrast with the actual game being a mess, the paid elements of it are super polished and work bug-free at this very moment.

The irony.

Would impregnate tbh

The worst part is that there is a fun game under all the bullshit, I think that's why people still play it. They can just zone out of all the garbage.

Speaking of which, Ace of fucking Spades

I think it should be abundantly clear that there is a problem with your company when the most widely demanded feature of all your games is a "classic mode" that removes all the shit you tacked on.

I liked Mass Effect 1 not for what it was but for what it could be. It had a neat universe, cool take on cosmic horror with the reaper dude, and was a half decent shooter which I saw as an improvement over the KOTOR formula because aiming and shooting is a bit more fun than clicking on a dude and autoattacking. But Mass Effect 2 was dogshit and I have no idea how it didn't become nearly as infamous as ME3, let alone widely praised as the best in the series. ME2 and 3 are equally garbage for the most part and anyone who thinks otherwise is a casual.


oh shit how are this and Fallout not the first posts in the thread? The lack of kirkbride is the main reason that TES has gone to the shitter, and the lack of absolutely anyone with any knowledge of the universe is the reason why Fallout has gone to the (what's worse than a shitter? Radioactive waste dump? That sounds fitting for a couple reasons).

Fans of WoW have been asking that for years and Blizz haven't done shit. Companies are too fucking stubborn to admit that they've made bad decisions.

It's the last part that really gets me.
FO4 just being a shitty game would be one thing, but the fact they changed the lore so much to the point where it would be believable to say this was an alternate universe makes me think Beth actively tries to upset classic Fallout fans.

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People complained to SOE for fucking years that the most powerful vehicle also required the least amount of teamwork to use: the god damn Reaver. Instead of listening to this complaint and actually making the gameplay consistant,, SOE doubled down on it and released those god damn balance-destroying BFRs. What a fucking joke.

"Keep making more spin-offs! Wait, they want an actual Metroid game? HA, fuck those losers"

(heil'd)
How would you improve on Super? Or would you really be satisfied with a HD remake when the original can be emulated perfectly?

The transition from 2D to 3D was a lot like Zelda. I guess naturally the next game would be a completely open world MonHun-like game where Samus flies around the galaxy, hunting bounties and crafting/buying upgrades?

Wario Land players

Wario Ware destroyed the Wario Land in every possible way. It fucked up Wario's design to make him look like a shit eating hipster, more than half a decade before dressing like a retard became fashionable. It entirely scrapped everything related to the Wario Land games, from the characters, to the setting, to the gameplay. The worst part is that even though Wario Ware is pretty much dead, it's zombie corpse (Game&Wario), combined with Nintendo's previous complete failures to bring back WL, seem to have perpetually salted the earth where it could come back.

They get jump to light speed up yet?

To be fair I cared about it because I didn't think we were ever going to get a good hitman game after abomination but the new one is fucking great so I don't give two fucks about that hack anymore.

Remember all the Tortanic threads and how Guild Wars 2 would be the savior for MMOs.

In the end tor was probably better. Or less shit.

not yet. apparently they're like a year, maybe two away

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I remember day 1 with those things. Initially amusement that I could lock down a tower with a full zerg in it solo, then quickly transitioning into horror thinking of what something this unbalanced would do to the game. It quickly became impossible to fight on foot and the game was BFR vs BFR. But the shields were so strong that BFRs couldn't kill each other so it was the biggest stalemate any game's ever seen. Only SoE could fuck up that bad.

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I don't remember anything of value in Tabula Rasa. The game was a scam. They pitched it as not being like the standard MMO with designated targets and RNG hits and no real aiming by PCs or NPCs but under the hood that's exactly what it was. It was still designating targets much like if you just kept mashing tab in WoW rather than let you aim (gunfire would actually curve to hit the target) and the "cover" system was just an area effect buff to defense.

Not really as significant, but the people who translate Rance games are massive fucking kikes.

Well, I should say, they suddenly came out as kikes.

That is some disgusting practices.

MAXIMUM KEK

GODDAMMIT user YOU MADE ME ANGRY AGAIN
FUCK YOU DE
FIRST YOU MAKE YOUR GAME GRINDY AS HELL THEN YOU SHIT ALL OVER THE ONLY INTERESTING PART OF THE LORE FOR THE PLAYER CHARACTERS
AND AFTER THAT YOU HAND OFF CHARACTER DESIGN TO FUCKING CHINESE WEABOOS
FUCK DE, FUCK EVERYONE IN CHARGE THERE, AND FUCK THE CHINAMEN WHO BOUGHT IT

How so?

Spore
Everyone knows why. I told Will Wright to go fuckhimself on their forums and said Lucy should be fired, it didn't get censored heh.

Hellgate London
Their staff were lying scumbags and the game was a pile of shit and still is.

EVE Online (Monoclegate and Incarna)
Incarna was a massive massive load of bullshit, and the Monoclegate was essentially selling out EVE. Their sub counts never recovered and EVE will likely die soon enough. Pitty cause it used to be good.

Ultima Online. They completely ruined it and the fans basically had to steal it to make it better again.

The Sims - Sims 4 was crap compared to 3 at launch.

Sim City Just shit. Utter shit.

Xcom. So many betrayals. Xcom 2 is a pretty big betrayal.

Civilization. Civ 5 and now Civ 6 look like total bastardizations of the series and the community deserved better than what they got.

David Cage with Omikron 2. Says he's going to do it and it'll be amazing. Ditches project entirely for shitty wannabe movie QTEfests and never goes back.

I have no idea why anyone gave the faintest fuck about paid vanity items for characters no one even sees.

It had less to do with what they were and more to do with the leaked documentation because in it CCP basically shat on their fanbase, add this to the fact that Incarna was nothing like what they had promised and yeah makes perfect sense why they were pissed.

The premise had people excited. An animu Hitman clone with social elements, complete no-kill runs and lots of variety with dealing with Yandere-chan's rivals.

I don't care that he left I just hope he actually makes the game and its good.

Wait, what did they do to darkscape?

if Blizzard ever did a classic wow server they would sabotage it either through laziness by putting out a 1.12 emulated client and call it a day, greed by making actual classic servers but with microtransactions or an added fee or some mix of both so they can pull the "you don't really like vanilla ;)))" excuse when it fails.

real life

been some time since I last played, how are the chinese currently handling the game? anything concrete about how much of the game being grindy is due to incompetence and or greed?

It'd be easier to ask which one haven't been betrayed yet.

The Fifa players seem to get what they want everytime.

Probably because he had nothing to do with how spore came out, and you just blamed him for something EA themselves did.

Delivering Fifa 10 with updated squads every year isn't that hard to do.

Maybe not as badly, but hello.

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You idiot.

I mean rabbids.

Oh. I kind of enjoyed the first game honestly, but when they started milking them like little gimmick cows, I left. That being said, They definitely made up for rabbids with the fairy thighmothers, and Origins/Legends in general.

That's why I'm still on Holla Forums.

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City of Heroes
An above-average MMO with a fantastic setting and environment and one of the best communities I've ever seen.
It was still going strong, holding a solid playerbase and turning a profit and about to release its 23rd large update when NCSoft just yanked the plug so they could promote some other MMO that they were releasing that didn't even get off the ground.

God damn soulless gook fucks.

S4 League, it was always easy to pay for stuff with real shekels but god damn did they butcher it with the coop mode

they butchered it when the devs sold the game to some other ching chong corporation.

I didn't really follow yandere simulator much, because it didn't look like it had any future - it was a janky-ass directionless mess of a project piloted by a shitty dev.
But seeing that pic, I gotta wonder - how far up his own ass can one man possibly get?

Wait, Federation Force came out?

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They just need to milk Metroid properly. Just keep making Super Metroid over and over again, but with a different map and different weapons/upgrades every time. Include challenge modes, time trial modes and all that good shit.

That's all the franchise needs. 100 Super Metroids.

Holy shit. Gunz was the shit. Haven't played it in 6 years. Is it still playable or is it dead?

Well that's simple, retards are easy to please

It's dead. The sequel is fucking trash too.

my fucking soul man
the game was fun when you played with fags who were below 100 ping. sprayer's salt when they get rekt by k-style fags and even more so vice versa. i was pretty shit at the game though, just maybe better than average.

lets not forget private server forum drama, i was raised on that shit

He could be Josh.

google for "evaxephon" and you'll find out

i am legitimately, no-exaggerating warning you though: that rabbit hole is very, very deep and you're going to see things that make you cringe

How about we talk about devs that were really good or were perceived to be good, then betrayed us and became complete shit. I think Valve are a good example of a slow betrayal, it's really interesting how their values and morals slowly crumbled before our eyes, Steam really killed their soul.

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How do you make totally blank posts like that, user?


I don't know, I fucking uninstalled that shit after that update, and haven't touched it since.
It's one of only two games that got me to uninstall out of disgust rather than boredom/disappointment.
The other one's been posted in this thread, see if you can find it

Where in the flight plan do you write down the list of people on the plane?

It was a gamble on SOE's part and it didn't pay off.

Obviously it didn't work. Anyone who wanted to play WoW was playing WoW and the people still playing SWG were alienated as SOE attempted to reverse the slow decline by making their game more like WoW.

At least we still have emulators. Raph Koster and his team did a great job designing the gameplay behind such an open ended game that made you interact with the community any chance it got.

I heard about this post from the people I know that play Warframe, and that is one of the most disgusting mod abuses I've seen in a game ever. At least with other titles your post would be removed and you'd get banned for dissenting not that I support that either but to use mod powers to edit the post so the complaints aren't there while changing it to shill the game and make the guy look bad is fucking beyond absolute disgusting.

its not even out yet but you and me both know this game is gonna be fucking terrible and a complete slap in the face to anyone who liked the original

watch it kick ass but be riddled with terrible drm

why does raz look like marty macfly?

Oh wow. What a bitch.

Sort of.

Back in the old days anything with the Star Wars license had a clause that allowed George himself to get involved and do whatever he wants to it when he feels like it. he wanted the game to become like WoW so he could make more money.

He didnt know SWG before the changes was killing every other MMO on the market and WoW was losing players to SWG.

After reading about his involvement with The Force Unleashed I'm convinced Lucas is either severely autistic or just a huge douchebag.

No, he was the hero we needed but didn't deserve.

Back to Holla Forums with you.

you say that like they dont have the best memes

I think he does have parkinsons or something, i wonder how the negotiations went with Disney to buy the rights.

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FUCK ED.

Some nice alt history there. SWG at launch was fucking awful, a trainwreck of a game, and it peaked early at around 400k players and started headed down. Meanwhile, WoW was taking off like a rocket and quickly hit 1M with no end in sight. They decided to roll the dice with SWG and see if essentially a totally new game would be able to compete with WoW rather than milk a few hundred k subs that might stick around. Turned out.. poorly. I suspect the license terms prevented them from just leaving the game on a back burner forever like UO/EQ.

Both Revelation and SWGEmu is good depending who you hang out with, however

To sum it up,
REVELATION - Attempts to act as more of a minor expansion of Pre-CU and doesn't have the same polish as SWGEmu

SWGEmu - Is just trying to emulate and update the Pre-CU base game, but it refrains from adding new content unlike Revelation.

Of course there is more Private Servers then this but these are the only ones I played.

Entertainment weekly? I'm not sure that counts as a porn mag

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This game had potential, but unfortunately, the company is squandering all the potential because of the huge profits they are making.

Many are predicting this game will be dead in two years. At least in NA.

Their clan system while workable, was revamped into a joke, which drove many clans away from the game.

They introduced Historical modes which was a disaster, so bad they actually shut it down to work on again.

The introduced a tank "Capture the flag" mode that was so bad they had to sweeten the deal by putting a tank as a reward. The tank was so OP and the mode was so bad, that clans worked together to rig their own matches so they could all get one.

For the most part, hacking and rigging and exploits are largely ignored, until a well known blogger decides to bring them to light to the general community. Then the people involved may get a 30 day ban at worst.

Recently an exploit allowed players to gain 3,000,000 silver for free. It was hot fixed a day later. The community managers statement read "The exploit has been fixed, how do you plan to spend your silver? :)"

Is that supposed to be somehow bad? You actually wanted them to punish people who dindu nuffin except skipping some grind?

Where have you been in the 7th generation of video gaming?

I will keep playing vanilla soulstorm/ firestorm over kaurava forever

Violent nuns make me hard

I'm simply stating that exploiting, hacking, rigging is accepted if not encouraged.

The fact they probably don't even have to tools to discover who exploited in order to recover silver is one thing. The other is they didn't just give everyone 3 million silver to reward those who don't abuse exploits.

The simple fact is they don't give a fuck.

Yeah, you're just mad. Fact is you kept playing this game despite knowing it was shit for way too long. You're like a battered but still jealous wife at this point

How many franchises they had?
Warcraft… , space craft… and that othe.. 3.
How many franchises they fucked up in some way after they joined activision?
Forcing esport scene to switch to worse game… ,turning grim dark rpg into console candy loot game, never realising another RTS… ,making their MMO worse and worse… yep that would already be all 3 of them and I am not near half of the list what they did.

The game has been shit from day 0. I've played the ru beta and it was fun when crit chance wasn't reduced to RNG and all it took to do that is one day of whine by the "target audience" aka people who don't want to learn and think better tank = skill. Wargayming CEO is "stop yapping, people will pay anyway" asshole and jew.

I know it isn't much, but NFL Blitz after 2003. Fucking Blitz Pro was trash because of the NFL telling Midway to stop making shit fun. After EA bought the fucking NFL license we had those two edgy as shit Blitz games which were cashing in on some edgy ESPN TV series, then EA bought the Blitz and Jam licenses and now we got a remake of NBA Jam, which was great especially the On Fire Edition, and a remake of NFL Blitz which is fucking trash.

Though I will say, I haven't played Blitz the League, but EA's Blitz was fucking boring garbage along with the script they had the announcer read off. If anyone can prove me wrong on the Blitz League games then I'll probably check them out.

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Actually I think there's some bitching about how fucking broken the AI is and how they refuse to fix it. Also I think they included some bullshit microtransactions that pissed everyone off.

You are saying I should've quit at the first mistake they made?

The fact that you went straight for personal attacks lends me to believe you have some personal stake in this.

Minimizing RNG is what makes the game work. If not everyone would just aim for weakspots on tanks with their laser guns and pen weakpoints everytime, HT's and anything with decent armor would be useless and it'd be nothing but peek a boo with fast paper tanks.

Those weren't attacks, there is a reason why I quoted those two parts, it fits the profile.

It's been more than five years and they never betrayed the community, they just never gave a fuck which makes their "mistakes" irrelevant to this thread. Not throwing stones here since I spent way too much time on WoT in open beta and a couple of years afterwards and then a few thousand hours on a similar but better game where they also didn't give much of a fuck about the community, but your complains are just ridiculous since those are not the reasons why the game sucks.

You know never betraying the community and not giving a fuck about the game is basically the opposite of each other right?

I told you what the problems with the game are. Instead of a rebuttal you just want to call the complaints ridiculous and call me a battered wife.

You aren't making any arguments bud. You are just looking like an angry shithead.

Apparently you've never heard of the Metroid series.

Nah OP that title goes to Nintendo.

Metroid.

Were were you when Nintendo killed videogames?

my second metroid, first was Prime 2

Holy fuck it hurts. I was a grandmaster founder (had my name on xini but i'm pretty sure they got rid of those after they updated the starmap), and it was so sad to see them ruin the game progressively over time. Quit last year in may.

To be betrayed you first have to trust, and if you did m gonna call you a sucker because all the red flags were there.
Rebuttal to what? I don't know what you're looking for, between rng shittery, piss poor matchmaking, p2w elements (gold ammo that are somehow okay because we can ruin ourselves buying them with credits now), questionable premium tanks), wargaming's quest of new cash cows. They only got there because they filled up a niche and they are still here because people have too much time invested into it to move to greener pastures. Haven't touched Armored Warfare since release and it had a lot of issues but the core of the game was already better than WoT was but still that level of RNG shittery wasn't for me and I m guessing they weren't able to steal enough of WoT's userbase.

Last time I came close to Wargaming's jewry was WoWS who also had p2w elements right off the bat, they haven't changed, they stayed true to themselves.
You're basically complaining about trivial stuff when the core of the game was rotten and yet you played for years and years, of course I m gonna call you a battered wife. You knew who you married.

The core of the game was random battles. Random battles was fine, the mechanics were fine. Some maps were imbalanced, some tanks were imbalanced. RNG is needed, otherwise you just have snipe wars even against tanks you shouldn't be able to pen because your tank shot through the slit of their viewport 5 times in a row.

The core of the game was fine, the clanwars, the historic battles, the capture the flag for OP tank reward additions they made, shows they had no idea wtf to do beyond that and its why everyone is leaving.

Suck my turban

Wew, didn't think my battered wife analogy would end up so fitting.

Layer upon layer of rng shittery trying to limit the skill input in favor of random chances to act as a sort of equalizer between players so they can all feel good when playing the game and blame the rng when it ends up fucking you over. Of course some rng is needed to simulate accuracy, but that level is bullshit. Damage and critic rolls are also fucking retarded.

Keep telling yourself that, you spent years and years on a dumb down game made to drain drooling retards past tier 8.

Honestly I liked Microsoft Flight because it strove to strike a balance between realism and simplicity. They just tried too hard to monetize it.

Prey fans should just be happy that they get another game.

The gameboy fanbase when they said the DD would be a "third pillar"

DD?

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