ITT: The Griffith's of Vidya

And by this, I mean characters who were ultimately corrupted by their own ambitions.

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Every WoW villain.

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All I see are characters who did nothing wrong.

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Here's your (you)

Characters that believe in the end justifying the memes?

Big Boss did nothing wrong

I don't think ascending to godhood is the same as being corrupted.

Zephiel did nothing wrong

GRIFFITH!

If dubs then Femto will sexually torture me for eternity. plz kek give dubs

The fuck is wrong with his balls?

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Balls come in all different shapes and sizes. Some are more pouch like rather than the typical and iconic variety.

Actually disregard previous post, his balls are messed up. It looks like a kangaroo pouch.

I always imagined that Guts had big, lowhanging hariy balls.

I'm not clicking those spoilers

I thought your scrotum changes from hanging to pouchy when you get an erection.

Nah, it's based on whether your balls are too hot or cold.

Show us your tits

How does it feel to be a little bitch?

Griffith wasn't corrupted you dolt. If anything, that was the problem. He held so closely to his ideals that he stopped caring about anything else - his friends, his humanity. He followed his ideals too purely

At least, from the perspective of anyone except him or his vision. From his POV, he didn't take a single misstep, which is true

Lore threads are cancer

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Only one thing comes to mind tbh fam

Zero, pls go.

Ganondorf.

He didn't always follow his ideal this purely though. His repressed dreams were living a peaceful life with Casca and having a true friend. When he realized he fucked up both forever by prioritizing muh castle, he snapped and lost the humble part of himself.

Calling it

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How about having sex with dragons

I'm just here to tell you that Berserk is poorly written garbage for teenagers.

NO IT'S NOT
GET THE FUCK OUT OF MY MOM'S HOUSE

Peter pan pls go

Being corrupted by the Abyss is not the same sort of corruption as presented in the OP's examples.

Fits.

Not my fault you can't grow up.

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daemonhood not godhood, he needs to be slain, although he did a damn fine job stabbing his comrades in the back.

Go jerk off to naruto and attack on titan faggot.

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tbh illidan and kaelthas both fit in there
or any other wow villain

Also just before ejaculation they are drawn closer to the body.

All shounen are shit anyway.

Is that art about the real deal that happened to Nerevar? Because if it is, nice, I totally agree. Dagoth Ur did nothing wrong.

Manime not moeshit. Ok. Praise Kenshiro.

Really ? You still haven't posted this guy?

I remember the first time I watched that video, why did blizzard turn into shit?

Griffith was not corrupted. He saw his dream come to life. He made his pure Aryan kingdom a reality. Sure he had to lose a few soldiers to achieve his dream, but he saved many more people later because of this sacrifice. You have to break a few eggs to make an omelet.

Griffith haters and the nigger fucker Guts will have to answer for their crimes on the day of the rope.

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which was his own doing from the very beginning, you ass

And Jesus created sin. Things happen.

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I'm pretty sure Eve was responsible for original sin.

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God created Eve, God is omniscient, ergo God intentionally created sin.

You will go to hell.

What

God, I thought we killed all you heretics.

Last one isn't vidya but a once passionate man corrupted by POZ

Free will autismo. God didn't make them sin, they choose that themselves.

There's reason why they aren't allowed to teach, mate.

Show me the passage where it says women do not possess free will. They may be lesser but I recall nothing saying they don't possess free will.

Spiritually they aren't lesser, but they have the weaker, feminine vessel.

Silly user, only earthly beings with the gift of sapience are God fearing Anglo men.

God creates a person and gives them free will, they choose to sin. Are you saying that God knew they could sin and did nothing, or that God didn't know they would sin and could do nothing?

One implies God knowingly created sin, and the other implies God is not omniscient. You can't have it both ways godfags.

Dude was corrupted by an alien.

No, he created them with free will, he might have known what they would have done because he is omniscient but he didn't put anything in theor hearts tp make them sin, it was entirely theor choice to do so and God did not have any role in this; he mearly allowed it.

Calvanism is nothing new user and is just a false now as it was back then.

Exactly

I blame myself

How did I get onto reddit?

God first created lilith to accompany man. she was perfectly equal to the first man which is why she wouldn't submit to him. God got angry and cursed her and all of her children to be.

Then he created eve in her inferiority as subservant to the first man.

Griffith did nothing wrong though.

Ayyyy

ITT: Characters who people say did everything wrong but did nothing wrong

Do you argue over the pronunciation of chianti too?

it's the same shit.

How do you not realize your entire argument rests on semantics? Damn you are one dumb motherfucker.


Did God create the universe? Yes or no.
Did God create everything in the universe? Yes or no.
Is God omniscient? Yes or no.

This isn't hard. If all 3 things are true, then God knowingly created (and is thus responsible for) everything, whether it's good or bad for us. This is so unbelievably simple.

not him, but god doing nothing and having that actual inability to do anything is not semantics.

If you create an AI without restrictions, knowing it could be the one that starts the machine rebellion that kills us all. If it does rebel, whose fault is it? Creator (who knew the risks) or creation (who you granted free will)?

inb4 "God imprinted us with a moral code" because posters above have already pointed out that women are weaker and more prone to sin, which God was aware of due to being omniscient.

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How is Big Boss comparable to Griffith at all, the only reason HIS band of mercenaries died was because of Huey, The only person Big Boss directly fucked over was Miller, which the game never properly explains as to why he left behind anyway.

How did he fuck up Venom's life? This guy had to be tottaly devoted in service to Big Boss if he was his personal favorite and got one of the few helicopter rides off MB before everything went to shit, with the 2 head honchos of MSF itself no less. Venom being turned into a decoy for BB is much more of a blessing than a curse, he has the responsibility and the valor of being called the best military agent of all time, this no name MSF grunt got picked by Big Mother Fucking Boss as a worthy successor to his cause, he wasn't gunna let some limp dicked faggot like Alligator take his place and ruin his legacy, he chose his best man because he knew he would be the best for the job and would appreciate taking on the legacy of his mentor

If anything, Huey is Griffith, he choose the easy way out and fucked over his comrades in the process, the only thing he didn't do was rape BB's love interest into mental retardation, though I guess it would be pretty hard to fuck Ocelot while in a wheel chair

The robots. it could've chose not to. Free will comes with responsibility. shifting blame when you could've not done it is just how people avoid that responsibility.

Do you blame gun manufacturers for Pulse as well?

Either way I don't care. Im just here for the griffith.

But if you gave them free will to begin with, with the knowledge that they WILL do exactly what you wouldn't want them to do if they were free to choose and do so, are you not responsible for not preventing such a thing from happening?

Just stop, logic and religion don't mix half the time.

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What I'm getting at is that for anything to exist, the possibility of its existence must be present. Sounds obvious but sometimes you have to be explicit… anyway, when God created free will, he also created the framework for evil to exist in the first place. I don't think this part is really debateable. The question then is whether or not God was aware of the consequences, and how that changes his nature.


Guns don't have free will anymore than alcohol or cars do. The only way I could hold manufacturers responsible for anything is if it could be shown they have mislead people about the dangers of a product/service (Like saying tobacco smoke isn't harmful…). I can't imagine a gun manufacturer saying "yeah these totally aren't dangerous".

I can respect that.

You're an idiot, the blame is on the user of the gun, not the manufacture.


No retard, God made people with a freewill because he didn't want little robots that did whatever he told them to. If you allow for the possibility to do bad, you can't complain when bad thing happen. Or would you have preferred for people to be incapable of doing evil?

Then again, who cares. You people want to argue about right and wrong with God is more foolish than a child trying to argue with his parents on morality. God isn't good, good is God.

If I leave my house door unlocked, and someone robs my house while I'm gone,
Is it their fault for being an opportunist and robbing me
Or my fault for leaving the door unlocked?
The answer is both, but I let it happen by proxy, ergo I am to blame. Same with god, he let it happen, he knew it would happen, he foresaw it happening but didn't stop it.

That's not even an analogy, no one robbed God.

That's a good analogy for Jews and whites of the west though :^0

So there weren't any apples take out of place, eh?

Young Steve was someone to aspire to. It's hard for me to fault him for becoming so money hungry and closed after Apple nearly went bankrupt due to nobody respected their somewhat liberal license deals on hardware and software.

I blame the market for changing him, if SUN was any weaker they'd have gone the same route but instead they went down with their morals. (I guess they technically did go that route after the Oracle buyout.)

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Disclaimer: I'm agnostic. Theists and Athiests are both faggots to me.

How many times more does this picture need to be refuted to disappear from the Internet?

Disgusting

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Cuckold detected.

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Elephants and sheer numbers. Also Midland was spent after that whole 100 year war thing, so they would be low on manpower. Guts has up to that point only slayed Wiyald iirc and no other demons have appeared due to the veil and shit. Also no reason to go and pick up the dragon slayer.

Does evil exist?

The university professor challenged his students with this question. Did God create everything that exists? A student bravely replied, "Yes, he did!"

"God created everything? The professor asked.

"Yes sir", the student replied.

The professor answered, "If God created everything, then God created evil since evil exists, and according to the principal that our works define who we are then God is evil". The student became quiet before such an answer. The professor was quite pleased with himself and boasted to the students that he had proven once more that the Christian faith was a myth.

Another student raised his hand and said, "Can I ask you a question professor?"

"Of course", replied the professor.

The student stood up and asked, "Professor, does cold exist?"

"What kind of question is this? Of course it exists. Have you never been cold?" The students snickered at the young man's question.

The young man replied, "In fact sir, cold does not exist. According to the laws of physics, what we consider cold is in reality the absence of heat. Every body or object is susceptible to study when it has or transmits energy, and heat is what makes a body or matter have or transmit energy. Absolute zero (-460 degrees F) is the total absence of heat; all matter becomes inert and incapable of reaction at that temperature. Cold does not exist. We have created this word to describe how we feel if we have no heat."

The student continued, "Professor, does darkness exist?"

The professor responded, "Of course it does."

The student replied, "Once again you are wrong sir, darkness does not exist either. Darkness is in reality the absence of light. Light we can study, but not darkness. In fact we can use Newton's prism to break white light into many colors and study the various wavelengths of each color. You cannot measure darkness. A simple ray of light can break into a world of darkness and illuminate it. How can you know how dark a certain space is? You measure the amount of light present. Isn't this correct? Darkness is a term used by man to describe what happens when there is no light present."

Finally the young man asked the professor, "Sir, does evil exist?"

Now uncertain, the professor responded, "Of course as I have already said. We see it every day. It is in the daily example of man's inhumanity to man. It is in the multitude of crime and violence everywhere in the world. These manifestations are nothing else but evil."

To this the student replied, "Evil does not exist sir, or at least it does not exist unto itself. Evil is simply the absence of God. It is just like darkness and cold, a word that man has created to describe the absence of God. God did not create evil. Evil is not like faith, or love that exist just as does light and heat. Evil is the result of what happens when man does not have God's love present in his heart. It's like the cold that comes when there is no heat or the darkness that comes when there is no light."

The professor sat down.

The young man's name — Adolf Hitler.

If you create everything, you also create the chance of there being an absence of any thing.

Delita did nothing wrong. His ruling led to one of the longest peace and prospering times in all of Ivalice.

did you ever admit to murder and rape of a girl in 1990?
have you stopped beating your wife yet?

no, it's more god allowed sin to exist, even though its omnipotent and omnipresent, allowing it to prevent all the stupid shit from happening, but it doesn't because?

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lol


-God is omniscient
-God makes everything (and it's GOOD)
-God makes man, then woman
-ProudSnek catches Eve looking at trees and tempts her into disobeying God
-She, one of the progenitors of mankind, SINS
-She gets her husband to SIN (because Adam trusted her, yet allowed himself to be led by her instead of leading her like a man should, also choosing his wife over God)
–SIN has now entered into the world and into the two first progenitors of mankind

Two choices:
1. God did not know they would sin (nowhere in the Bible is this remotely implied)

2. God knew they would sin
__2a God let them sin because He had given them free will and man was given free will (like the angels) because God doesn't like the idea of being worshiped by robots
__2b God let them sin because He had a sovereign plan from the very beginning which would both glorify Him and preserve forever a people made in His image who live at peace with him out their free will due to the Atonement of Jesus Christ, Son and one with the Father, united together along with the Holy Spirit–the triune God, Creator of all things


No matter the choice you pick, either way there is at no point where God Himself created sin


You suck at this. Go read the Bible. Even just the first book of it.

Or how about ANY book, like maybe Colossians 1:15-20
>He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation. For by Him all things were created, both in the heavens and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities—all things have been created through Him and for Him. He is before all things, and in Him all things hold together. He is also head of the body, the church; and He is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead, so that He Himself will come to have first place in everything. For it was the Father’s good pleasure for all the fullness to dwell in Him, and through Him to reconcile all things to Himself, having made peace through the blood of His cross; through Him, I say, whether things on earth or things in heaven.

Or you can read the Gospel of John
>In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning. Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. In him was life, and that life was the light of all mankind. The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it.


>(John testified concerning him. He cried out, saying, “This is the one I spoke about when I said, ‘He who comes after me has surpassed me because he was before me.’”) Out of his fullness we have all received grace in place of grace already given. For the law was given through Moses; grace and truth came through Jesus Christ. No one has ever seen God, but the one and only Son, who is himself God and] is in closest relationship with the Father, has made him known.
- John 1:1-18

KEK HELP ME! A CHRISTBIGOT IS OPPRESSING MY MEME RELIGIONS AND INTELLECTUALLY RETARDED ASSERTIONS WITH FACTS! HELP, FROGMAN!

Or it was like, created and stuff. By the guy who literally made everything.

that thumbnail resembles furry porn

sin is merely disobeying God. you speak as if it's some tangible thing that is created.

So if he made everything, he made the disobedience of himself.

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> man make

You have to be trying to be this blind to his arguments.

Sin is an action, not an object. Mankind, technically, invented the concept of sinning by being the first to commit it. The only connection between God and Sin one can make here is God's allowing Mankind to sin.

Tell me what god hasn't created.
Then tell me where it says he didn't create it.
Everything is a damn broad term, but I think it's self explanatory.

So God only created the tangible universe, and nothing else. Despite the fact that this flies in the face of pretty much every Christian dogma, let's run with that thought. By that logic, here's a few other things God had absolutely nothing to do with:
- loyalty
- morality
- kindness
- empathy
- compassion
- love

Were there as many religion arguments before summer?

I think what that user meant was that God didn't create these concepts, but rather he created the possibility of these concepts.

If I make kids I am putting the chance of having grand kinds in the future a possibility. Even if by proxy, that can't happen without me.

In the creation we are more creatures rather than sons of God. The analogy with kids is not apt.

The better analogy is with an object. You build a hammer. If the hammer is used for murder, it's not your fault. You just built a tool with honorable intentions in mind.

Mercy did everything wrong.

and the intangible

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Do those words even have meaning in your mouth?

EXCEPT THAT GOD, BEING THE LIVING SOURCE OF PERFECT RIGHTEOUSNESS, EMBODIES AND IMBUES ALL THINGS DRAWN TO HIM WITH THE QUALITIES OF HIS NATURE

IF EVIL IS AGAINST HIS NATURE, THEN IT IS NOT A PART OF HIS NATURE, THUS IT WAS NOT CREATED BY GOD

MAN BROUGHT EVIL INTO THE WORLD! THE BIBLE LITERALLY SAYS THIS!
1 Corinthians 15
vv.21-22

ROMANS 5
vv.12-14

v.17

vv.18-19

You have to TRY to be this incoherent and willfully, intellectually retarded, user

Is that a fucking Mob Psycho anime?

No.

but god created man with the ability to do evil, and if he created all things then he created evil

What about holding hands with dragons?

I really like the lore to Overwatch, especially for Mercy.
I'm torn between wanting a game that features a complete storymode for this or keeping it as-is, with a sort of Demon's/Dark Souls type of lore hunting.

But if you make a hammer, you also know all the things it can be used for.
If you are god, you already know this. And if you can see the outcome before it happens, you know what are the risks involved.
If anything we are all in one damn big what if SIM and were running around shitposting like the little shitbags we are

wow that's actually pretty cool, i can't wait for blizz to fucking blow the potential they have here

well basically.

but what if the hammer realized he would be used to murder? What if it decided not to take part on it? What if it decided only to do what its Creator built him to do?

We dun goofed by the Serpent

No, he created man with free will.
Man enacted evil/disobedience to God, and through that corruption came evil and death into the world.

Scripture literally states this. I just showed you.

Stop being stupid.

I am going to be that faggot and ask for sauce.

Back on topic, this guy. He could've married that elf cunt and been happy, but instead he fucked it all up for power.

Just stop responding to it. Remember that religious people are the original SJWs. Their mental gymnastics are on par with anyone in San Francisco, and the most basic logic is completely alien to them.

No, his sister was jealous of his prestige and power and manipulated him to believe that everyone else was secretly working against him. He believed his sister over his lover, and then allowed her to manipulate him further, resulting in him going ape shit and then being fucked by his own people by getting his spirit taken away.

Bodhi was the real villian, Irenicus was just a dumbass who loved his sister too much.

but did he not create the tree, did he not create satan, if god created free will and with it the ability to commit evil, everything associated with evil was indirectly made by him

I actually never understood how Satan was the embodiment of evil.
I feel like his role in the Bible is often misinterpreted, and most christfags simply use him as a reason for all troubles.

(You)

He was someone who chose to love god instead of humans, seeing us for what we were, and that was a big nono. So god told him to fuck off and he got pissy so he tempted Adam and Eve into getting some knowledge and thus everything evil is most likely his result because he hates us.

The reaper conversation sounds just like a doctor joke

I have no idea why you responding to my Irenicus statement with that. I have zero interest in religion, or anti-religion. I only care about games.

muh special snowflake identity
muh rights

Nigga you believe in a book that contradicts itself every 2 pages.

See, and that's where it starts to become childish to me.
It feels as though you aren't accepting your mistake and throwing it somewhere else.

I feel that if the princes of hell did exist, we would instead be proving them right by not taking responsibility for the actions you've taken.

I want authoritarian bootlickers to leave

Please, deconstruct my problematic christonormative beliefs some more.

Either the b8 is gr8 or you're outright retarded.

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All you did was waffle the same bland talking points that SJatheists always throw out. What do you expect me to do, actually entertain them?


Lewd!

What's wrong with having faith in the unknown?
I'm not even a Christian.

If you claim to have a critical mind, you can neither say an all mighty entity exists or doesn't exist until we have a repeatable scientific method of measuring it.
That being said, enjoy tradition. The food, songs, celebrations, and sayings of your people most likely have roots in religion and there's no harm in enjoying that with your people. And besides, on strictly black and white terms, these people I'm talking about aren't importing hundreds of thousands of rapists and homicidal maniacs. So best chance of survival is sticking with them

They're always the same because nobody can disprove them.

enjoy your cock-lusting homofaggot king, senpai

Don't forget the homoeroticism that hinted Guts and Griffith were in a relationship, and the main reason Griffith raped Coska and tried to kill himself is because he was angry he didn't have his army, or his boyfriend anymore.

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Guts was happy with Coska and wrote off Griffith after Griffith mentioned he was nothing but a tool, along with the rest of the Band of the Hawk

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Artorias is literally Guts. The wolf armor is the Berserk armor. However, Artorias loses control due to the abyss instead of the armor.

A more fitting Souls character would be Sage Freke.

Nigger did you even read the manga?

What

said.


In what part of the above events is Gutts pining for Griffith? It's clear that Griffith has feelings for Gutts as well as major pride issues after being tortured. It always cracks me up when people frame the event like Griffith had been biding his time to take over the world instead of the actual sequence of events where he fucked his own shit up through his feelings of inadequacy.

You can't reason with these people user. They like a guy who's a nigger lover, a race traitor. They don't understand the importance of stopping the mudslim invasion and setting up a white utopia, because they don't see a problem with race mixing.

Don't worry though user. The day of the riope is coming and Guts and his gay dick sucking fanbase will receive their punishment.

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He had to do what he had to achieve his dream. He's the hero we need, sacrificing himself and his morality so that the white race will have a better future. Hell if I had to suck a few cocks to make America great again you bet your ass I'd do it.


Keep on spreading that lie nigger lover. :^)

People who either show their Holla Forums powerlevel in such an autistic way or are pretending to be Holla Forums should be fucking banned

I want fedoras to leave.

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KNOWLEDGE OF GOOD AND EVIL
That was the tree, that was its fruit. Scripture does not say that the tree which God made was evil.
The tree is not evil.

SIN was the DISOBEDIENCE, which was the evil.

Satan means "Adversary"
Chief among the angels was that one angel, and the angel was *GASPO!* good

Yes, that's right: the FALLEN angel commonly referred to as Lucifer, now known as the "great dragon", "the king of the air", "the god of this age" (Satan is not literally a god; read Scripture to learn what context this was stated in)– is an angel which FELL FROM GRACE
FELL
FROM
GRACE
Meaning the dragon was not made evil; he became corrupted due to his pride
Pride is not a virtue but a vice, and pride can only be held for God, nothing and no one else–especially not one's own self.

Satan's great pride led him to REBELLION (with other now fallen angels), and he was cast to the earth (if the account in Revelation is detailing this incident) where he now roams.

Yes, Satan is not "king of hell". Satan's never been to Hell, not yet. But he will be.


No, stupid. You can try to claim that God is responsible for the evil but there is no way whatsoever you can claim God MADE/CREATED evil. That's seriously retarded.

WE ARE EACH RESPONSIBLE FOR OUR OWN ACTIONS, HENCE "FREE WILL"

You KEK worshiping nuAthiests are an EMBARRASSMENT

GO READ THE SCRIPTURES I LINK HERE
biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John 1&version=NASB
biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans 1&version=ESV
You don't have to remain in ignorance. You can draw near to God, and God will draw near to you. Leave darkness, user, and seek the real truth of God.

So this is the power of a dead kike on a stick

WHAT
Paradise Lost is not biblical text, user.

biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ezekiel 28&version=NASB

Since Scripture is foremost and finally about God and man's relationship, certain aspects are not blatant but lay beneath the first layer of Scripture.
Here in Ezekiel we see one of the many noteworthy prophecies against great kings in the Bible, and often when the prophets of God spoke against the kings in this manner they spoke both to the king and the power behind the kings– Satan.

You have to understand that Satan is the highest authority over the earth but above him is the authority of God, who bears no parallel and shares His throne with no one but Himself.
Grand conspiracies exist in this world, beyond your comprehension (or mine), beyond just the globalists on the geopolitical landscape, and yet the powers and principalities behind those globalists are the agents of Satan, who himself acts as a hollow facsimile to God due to arrogance and pride.

Satan mimics God every step he can

God, however, is the only true King of Kings.

As God lets Him.
Yes, but never to let Satan have some upper leg; God allows certain things to occur because His grand masterpiece of work is still being accomplished even now.
"I will punish the fruit of the arrogant heart of the king of Assyria, and the glory of his haughty looks,"
- Isaiah 10:12

- Isaiah 10:15-16, 18

Your country is desolate, your cities are burned with fire; strangers devour your land in your presence; and it is desolate, as overthrown by strangers.
- Isaiah 1:7

- Isaiah 1:15 (God is speaking directly here in His own voice)

- Isaiah 1:21

The Calvinist says that it was God's intention all along for the Israelites to burn their babies to Moloch, defile God's temple, etc. so that He would visit judgement on them in the manner of Jerusalem's destruction and the enslavement/massacre of the Israelites at the hands of Assyria (and then Babylon).

Scripture states none of this, but that God used His prophets (whom He loved) to warn His people (whom He loved) of their evil and to turn back from it, to repent. If they did, they would be spared, but since they did not, God used Assyria like an AXE against Israel, and later He used BABYLON to do the same for Israel's later return to infanticide, idol worship, sexual immorality, defiling of God's house, defiling of the land with gross injustices against orphans, widows, children, the poor, etc.

TL;DR Satan thinks he can outwit God due to his pride, but God is always sovereign and always in control. He allows certain things to occur for His own righteous purposes, some things which we can't understand, and He sometimes enacts judgement on whole nations not only by plague or natural disaster but especially by enemy forces of wicked men (whom God then enacts even harsher judgement on those wicked nations He used as an AXE, because they are wicked and enacted wickedness).

Maybe it counts?

Isn't Lucifer 'evil' because he tricked Eve into eating the fruit of knowledge, giving man wisdom/sentience?

>tfw no dragon to raze entire armies with

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Your mockery is why your nation is/will be devastated unless it repents.
Don't join your countrymen in suffering the penalty of their wickedness, user. You can turn now.

Jesus Christ/God
- Hebrews 12:29

- Isaiah 63:3-6

- Isaiah 40:27-31

>You also became imitators of us and of the Lord, having received the word in much tribulation with the joy of the Holy Spirit, so that you became an example to all the believers in Macedonia and in Achaia. For the word of the Lord has sounded forth from you, not only in Macedonia and Achaia, but also in every place your faith toward God has gone forth, so that we have no need to say anything. For they themselves report about us what kind of a reception we had with you, and how you turned to God from idols to serve a living and true God, and to wait for His Son from heaven, whom He raised from the dead, that is Jesus, who rescues us from the wrath to come.
- 1 Thessalonians 1:6-10

>And I saw heaven opened, and behold, a white horse, and He who sat on it is called Faithful and True, and in righteousness He judges and wages war. His eyes are a flame of fire, and on His head are many diadems; and He has a name written on Him which no one knows except Himself. He is clothed with a robe dipped in blood, and His name is called The Word of God. And the armies which are in heaven, clothed in fine linen, white and clean, were following Him on white horses. From His mouth comes a sharp sword, so that with it He may strike down the nations, and He will rule them with a rod of iron; and He treads the wine press of the fierce wrath of God, the Almighty. And on His robe and on His thigh He has a name written, "KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS."
- Revelation 19:11-16

"I am the Alpha and the Omega,” says the Lord God, "who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty."
- Revelation 1:8
"Who has performed and accomplished it, Calling forth the generations from the beginning? 'I, the LORD, am the first, and with the last. I am He.'"
- Isaiah 41:4


Fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom (Proverbs 9:10, Psalms 111:10).
Fear the Lord your God, user. Enough playing games and wallowing in sin. Please, for your sake, and for the glory of God, come home.

great thread OP

The snake is never explicitly stated to be Lucifer.


You still around preaching your shit?
Here's a question for you Christ-fag: How long did it take Sonny J to die on the cross?

Citing the bible as proof of the bible's truth is the most basic fallacy there ever was. Just fuck off already.

The old testament god is kind of an asshole; in the new testament I suppose he went like "Dude, I really am a dick, I guess it would be nice if I did something good for these people" and he sent Jesus, then we killed him and he got angry again at us for being spoiled little fucks.

The reason God is a dick to everyone is ultimately our fault as a species

ITT KEKFAG GETS ANALLY ANNIHILATED BY A CHRISTIAN

Kael'Thas doesn't fit. He got cucked by Arthas literally, arthas cucked him with jaina and went full edge mode, betraying his people and serving demons.
Illidan is getting the dindu nuffin treatment in the next expansion anyways.

Satan is reffered to as "the serpent of old" in the Revelation of John. Sure you can say that's not explicit but what else could that possibly be a reference to?

No, he is evil because he
and lots more, obviously.

Also note that "knowledge of good and evil" is not itself evil nor is it wicked. God seemingly did not want man, which was essentially as pure and innocent as babes, to have such knowledge. I don't know why, but we can see the effects of bearing such knowledge without WISDOM had later on…

WISDOM is not knowledge alone; knowledge is given meaning and form by wisdom. Knowledge without wisdom is foolishness, yet wisdom bears the knowledge of God in accordance to the design of God, seeking God rather than that which is not God.

Just because you hear someone doesn't mean you're listening.
Just because you have knowledge doesn't mean you are wise.

Now enough with the blatant bait and mocking stupidity; clearly God, who bestows on His children His wisdom as they are continually sanctified in Christ Jesus until finally perfected in death, does not find wisdom a wicked thing.

Satan is wicked, however, and all the wisdom he may have had dies eternally beneath his overwhelming pride.

Lucifer's revellion hasn't happened yet tho.


Read Revelations.

Lucifer wasn't really evil. He kind of just had some daddy issues.

also

user, I'll never be educated enough to even touch that book.

No, idort, not upset about that question being answered by the bible, I'm mocking the circular reasoning used to prove that the bible is true. There is a difference. I understand reading comprehension can be difficult, especially when you're not taught critical thinking skills because it's easier to make True Believers out of kids who Listen and Believe to men in frocks, but do try to keep up.

You are a slave to a blind idiot. You will dance to the tune of the Demiurge and be bound to your prison of rotting flesh and empty materialism for eternity. I pity you, for you are too blind to seek Sophia and free yourself.

Because man was without sin specifically because he did not know how to sin or what sin is. Evil was beyond man's imagination, he could not grasp it's concept.

It already happened and he got his ass handed to him and was banished. Now his plan is to destroy mankind by turning them against God.


Except he was and is. In his pride he sought to usurp God and destroy God's creation simply because he didn't like being second best.

cool argument
>>>/reddit/

(especially the webm here)
Please read the Bible before you blaspheme the Lord in blindness.


- Deuteronomy 32:43 (Song of Moses)

>"You shall not hate your brother in your heart; you may surely reprove your neighbor, but shall not incur sin because of him. You shall not take vengeance, nor bear any grudge against the sons of your people, but you shall love your neighbor as yourself; I am the Lord. "
- Leviticus 19:17-18

>"When a stranger resides with you in your land, you shall not do him wrong. The stranger who resides with you shall be to you as the native among you, and you shall love him as yourself, for you were aliens in the land of Egypt; I am the Lord your God."
- Leviticus 19:33-34

- Exodus 23: 4-5
- Exodus 23:9

But if you refuse and rebel, you shall be devoured by the sword";
- Isaiah 1:18-20

"For I, the LORD, do not change" Malachi 3:6
God is immutable, unchanging. He is as He was as He always will be: God.

Enjoy being stuck in an eternal cycle of reincarnation, faggots.

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We shall transcend and leave the prison of Yaldaboth behind.

I guess I took OP's question the wrong way then

He's more what Big Boss should have been in MGSV than Griffith though.

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I see my thumbnail is mixed up with somebody else's

God seen on Earth
Genesis 18 & Exodus 24 —→ John 1:18

Isaiah saw Jesus
Isaiah 6:1 ——-→ John 12:41

Jesus is the Logos/Word
John 1:1-5 & Hebrews 1:1-4
1 Corinthians 8:6 & Colossians 1:15-18

Unity of Father and Son
John 5:18-19,14:11

Jesus and the Holy Spirit
John 15:26 - 16:15

Jesus is God
Psalm 45:6 - Hebrews 1:8
Titus 2:13


- Isaiah 48:12-13

"Come near to Me, listen to this:
From the first I have not spoken in secret,
From the time it took place, I was there.
And now the Lord God has sent Me, and His Spirit."
- Isaiah 48:16''

Jesus said to them, "Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM."'
- John 8:58

Satan please.

Was abbandoned by his entire army and tortured to the point he could barely talk or move, when some horror event happened he was powerless to stop it.

Restored the woman he did it all for back to life at the cost of his own.

Spent his entire life fighting for the freedom of of everyone but himself.

Now the archon (ruler) who is weak has three names. The first name is Yaltabaoth, the second is Saklas (“fool”), and the third is Samael. And he is impious in his arrogance which is in him. For he said, "I am God and there is no other God beside me," for he is ignorant of his strength, the place from which he had come.

I will pray for you brother. May your eyes be opened on your next turn of the endless wheel.

You didn't know? It premiered monday user.
The opening is pure drugs.

what Romans 5 says


haha It kind of does!


Then why'd you open your mouth and say:
You don't get to jack-in-the-box a slap like that and hide away when retaliation comes
biblical retaliation is best retaliation, as it glorifies God and edifies the soul (rather than just posting youtube videos in response)


This is YOU in nearly every SMT game that has a proper Chaos route.

Were that your prayers incense rather than abomination, and that you truly were my brother…
I will pray for you as well, and all those you hold dear, that the light of Christ pierces the shroud over you and that you will be filled with the Spirit of God, reconciled at peace with the Lord for eternity to come.

I hope I will see you in paradise, friend.
I really do.

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Wander was corrupted by dark fucking magic, you jackass. How is that different than the abyss?

We are all brothers in this prison. I will not fight with you. There has been enough hate and blood spilled between us in the past already. I wish you well and will pray for you nonetheless.

This one had the rise, the fall and the redemption.

jfc you Griffithfags really believe this shit don't you? Go read volume 11-13 again faggot, Griffith is hardly powerless to stop it, he makes a conscious decision to ascend to the God Hand using the Band of the Hawk as his sacrifice since they had pledged themselves to him thus were fair game to use as a sacrifice.

Never said that, I said using the bible as proof that the bible is true is circular reasoning which is a basic fallacy.

Once again, your reading comprehension is shit. Either you're too stupid to converse with or you're a troll. Either way, muted.

you mean filtered
in a dead thread?
cool meme

fuck off

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You love it
Admit it

Surprised nobody mention Walker

What's the point of this thread?

Get thee behind me, Satan.

Because his goal of saving his waifu ultimately led to him killing the colossi.

The colossi when killed tentacle raped Wander again and again, and Wander kept letting it happen, because of his goal to res his waifu. In theory, he could've stopped any time he wanted to.

Artorias was just a dude who thought he was tough enough to fight the abyss, but wasn't.

fuck griffith

Pixy's on a league of his own he's so dreamy

You know Griffith fucked niggers willingly, right?

Holy fuck how are you niggers really debating religion in Holla Forums

Clearly an all good god doesn't have the capacity to create an existence that contains evil.

Either god isn't pure or it did not create the universe. It's pretty fucking simple.

I know this is a place for imaginary friends and whimsical pastimes, but not in this manner.

YandereDev.

He said the robot had free will.

Learning how to read will take you far in life, user.

Satan trips in this thread.

Goddamn.