Complain about grind in an mmo

I don't understand how anyone can consider grind to be hardcore or difficult in any way.

Why are you playing it?

Just don't play.

They are tuned to the very idea that a grind is actually okay in games.

Fuck off, retard.

i don't get how people can sit through hours of tedium just so they can get a few hours of fun at the end which they'll get bored of and go to bitching on the forums for the new content to hurry up that they'll burn through in a few days and call the game shit.

Grind is ok if the grind itself is a fun activity.
Grinding to get to the fun is pointless.

This, people who complain about grinding are classic noobs. But if the game really is bad then don't play it.

RNG is a classic way to make faggots feel as if they're progressing after doing such hard work (killing the same shitty enemies over and over) due to the amount of time it took. Of course even this illusion fails if it takes to long, because instead of triggering satisfaction once you get it all the person reacts with is "About fucking time" and moves on.

Grinding well made is really satisfying. Getting more and more powerful to surpass the same obstacle which put you in a halt some levels earlier is inspiring, and lets you wanting more. You feel that you character is actually TRAINING to get BETTER.

Can MMO's do grinding well? I don't think so. If you can get ANY shortcut via investing money, instead of time and/or clever strategy and minmaxing, you are doing it wrong.

MMO's are shit anyway. They are just huge timesinks with very little actual difficult. I am not going to follow a build. And coming up with my own is always worse than the few OP builds that everybody plays.

MMOs post-WoW are just chatrooms with a skinner-box stuck on top. There are a few exceptions (GW1, EVE, SWG) but that's about it.