2nd American Civil War Theory

I don't think so. I doubt the casualty rates would be in the tens of millions of men.

Yes what a brilliant idea user, lets just all starve to death while moving instead of making our own food packages beforehand. OP said 'prepare food' not 'buy alex jones supplements'

But user, YOU ARE THE REVOLUTION.

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According to those digits, Jones is legit.

I think you might want to redraw that map. It'll look more like this. Even in the absolute liberal states there are significant portions of the people in them that are hicks and just like any midwesterner you'll come across. It's the same the other way around. Whites are a minority in states like Texas. Many of the most conservative states have urban shitholes full of niggers.

State ties have been forced gradually to erode over the last century. America has had an unprecedented amount of displacement.

hm

I actually made that map with the "beginning situation" taken into account. yes, what you are saying is 100% crrect that in absolute lib states enough people hang around that are just like any midwesterner. However; they will move without any form of coherent strategy, not really knowing where to move to, and will be obliterated because the globalists are likely to be far better prepared in terms of overall strategy. encirclements, divide and conquer and picking them off one-by-one will likely happen.

I also took texas into acount, especially the southern region where I believe the resistance will stem from.

those cities are part of the climate alliance but I believe most will fall quite quickly since they cannot get help from anywhere.

The left alliance has the West coast and the New England coast guaranteed. Everything else is under extreme threat of encirclement. They're going to want to establish a corridor from the New England coast to Detroit and Chicago and expand from there. On the West coast they have the coast mountain range it's extremely defensible and safe.

Also nobody is going to assault cities. They'll be encircled. And they won't last long either because they're not going to get supplied.

agreed. Now, the corridor is the most interesting bit; the Appalachians should not fall to prevent that from happening.

A lot of Washingtonians, even on the western half of the state are getting absolutely fed up with the Liberals/Socialists in Seattle.
Also the Liberals/Socialists wouldn't be able to hold onto Washington State for long since we got fuck tons of guns here.

They must secure the great lakes and right coalition must not let it happen. The heaviest fighting will take place in that corridor. They'll send one army group to attempt to secure a corridor to the great lakes and another army group that pushes southwest along the coast in an attempt to roll up the coast.

its impossible to defend. The Californians will swoop from the south, encircle them and end then end them.

perhaps they'll try to move southward and create huge pockets stretching hundreds of miles, cutting off supplies and men from one point to the other. I think the nationalists would do best to conquer the countryside, then besiege Chicago. The problem for the nationalists tho is that they are splitting up their forces for the Texas campaign, Florida, the east coast, the great lakes and the Californian areas.

this isn't liek the first civil war where you had standing armies and clear borders
that map of election resuts name trump land and clinton archipelago is the closest approximate to what would happen

also do you think the people republic of commifornia will be able to push that far east acros problematic terrain rather than be bogged down keeping their own cities from chimping out

nah I don't think so. I think they'll try to push east and then get terrific supply lines in the rocky mountains which in no way ever will suffer from overstretching and insurgents.

You do understand that it would be full on guerilla warfare within Washington if that's the case, it would be full on Vietnam war up here since all these forests. Hell without constant maintenance on the road systems up here because of all the rain the roads will go to shit. People think Iraq and Afghanistan was bad, a war in West Coast would be devistating for the Commiefornians because we can act like them, we can talk like them, they are hated up here. Nobody, and I mean nobody that is a native Washingtonian like Commiefornians. Also remember we're one of the few blue(we had a chance at turning red) states that had a member of the electorate outright refuse to vote for Hillary even if she won the state.

Counties, towns, even whole states will be declared hostile all civilians told to evacuate or get caught in the fire (become targets) in a civil war scenario if you are in a hostile area you will die.

The most terrifying prospect out of all of this.

the second question is of course who do they plan to draft in the peoples liberation army of LGTQBRTP

surely the hipsters will turn in combat veterans at the mere dictate of their commisar
not to mention inflitration and swithching sides will never occur

It's funny even if they drafted some people into it, there will be a number of gay infiltrators in their ranks, gay conservatives they cannot win it. Hell if they tried this shit I legit think this would push for Cascadia to be a thing with a far more Right Wing feel to it. Please try and attack us Commiefornia when Civil War 2:Electric Boogaloo happens so we true born Cascadians can go full Fash

oh yes that will go terrific and will totally not backfire

I doubt the west coast will be able to push up to the Rockies. A token force could keep them stuck right on the coast.

the Government is against the people
the Police is against the people
the Military is against the people

You're not talking civil war like north against south, your talking civil war for white superiority in the community "you" live. I can not foresee white people attacking their black, and latino neighbors. I do not think whites have the ability to defend themselves against the police that are going to respond as a paramilitary organization in response to ethnic or racial violence.

The police have been training for this, urban warfare against it's citizens, using drones, using helicopters, using the national guards… who remembers the movie Red Dawn (1984) that was clear cut, American kids against a Russian invading force. I simply do not forsee whites being able to battle niggers, spics, the police, muslims, chinks, the national guard, the US army to make their communities their own once again. I always think these threads are for data mining purposes.

Cities are pretty fucked even without a war. Reliance on infrastructure and a population that can't function without law enforcement would tie the hands of the government.

Another civil war would be sold as fighting against a white insurrection or pro-Trump powergrab. The military would respond due to the top down structure of an army and a lack of information given to the generals. If it dragged on, the military would fracture fairly quickly leading to contractors taking over at least some of the hunting for insurgents as the government would try to prevent domestic military forces from going AWOL by keeping them from the fighting.

America is the New Rome, just as the US founding fathers intended. It will end up much the same way so yes internal strife is inevitable and more so now than ever with the extreme power struggle that exists within the state currently. People are becoming more unhappy as well one because of economy but the two is arguably the most important and that is society. You don't need money to be happy, look at Bhutan. But you do need a good society and a sense of community, like Bhutan.

Plus of course loads of troops and even divisions walking to the other side. If Mattis or another popular general is alive and would lead (part of) the forces on Trump's side, this would happen faster

Why would Australia give a damn about South Korea?

Australia did give a damn before because they send more than 2.000 men during the original war. They want their backyard to be safe and quiet obviously, and South Korea falling won't help.

The Globalist Deep State are civilians in government. The combat sections of the military are almost completely white conservative masculine men.

We (I'm Australian) only sent troops in support of the USA. We have sent troops with every American war since WWII. Vietnam, Korea, Iraq, Afghanistan, Iraq again. We do it because we are allies with America.

Hell, look what happened in Ukraine. Chunks of the army outright defected.

I don't doubt that. However, many of them were Obama appointees. Given that some also serve in California and may be loyal to the new republic, then having the army split up in parts could ruin everything. I think their command would order them to fight for the globalists, and that lower generals and colonels (as well as invididual brigades and even individual soldiers) can decide on their own to join the nationalists, which causes chaos on both sides.

If every state from PA north is on the same side, then there is enough arable land to feed the population of the northeastern states. Sabotage, not outright Rambo stuff is the strat for anons stuck in the northeast

We're talking dozens of millions of people in that region. people there will be trapped between Boston and the Canadians. 1) how can that feed everybody and 2) how can anyone do something there?

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More and more I'm convinced NS and that study by Cornell university was right about how segregation creates peace:
arxiv.org/abs/1110.1409

Everybody just needs to fuck off to their own at best we can trade and share knowledge but never live among each other like your wife wants away from the in-laws and mother. Good neighbours = good Fences

So I'll agree with those niggers chimping out at Evergreen and whatever else. The blacks and whatever else want segregation, you got it. It's better for everyone that way.

Everyone should have a bugout bag and a gun. /out/ and /k/ might help you out if you're paranoid about a cival war.

War has a way of polarizing people because most normies are spineless they'll suddenly throw in 150% with whomever they detect to be in charge. That means many midwest cities could effectively go full red. That being said you'd see huge insurgency in all parts of the country, blue on red and red on blue.

Moral of the story: get out of the fuckin' cities.

You must remember, 50% of the military leaves in a civil war, just straight AWOL. That alone would devastate the ranks of command.

Most of those northeaster states, except NJ, are mostly farmland. This goes for PA and NY, as well as VT, NH, and ME. MA has more old trade hubs but still has a generally low population in comparison to states to the south.

Even so, there are plenty of farms in MA, for example, that only serve their own town/county because the market is so saturated with food from the midwest, or else only raise horses or grow cranberries. Without food from the Midwest, I imagine these farms would expand or switch to food crops, with similar effects on the rest of the northeast. The main issue for the northeast in a civil war scenario (my friends and I originally discussed this as a cessation scenario) would be hostility from the farming regions, which have often had their interests negated by the big cities.

I'll post my thoughts on what can be done in the northeast in a bit, I need to get some work done first.

your a massive fag OP and your speculation wasn't worth reading, but
now that's a thought

yep

but that's bullshit

why?

Am I alone in thinking the Marxist stronghold of California and surrounding western territories would be severely hamstrung by the beaner population? There are a fuckload of spics in those regions and there's no way I don't see them revolting or forming regional gangs once the civil war starts. Plus the whole reconquista thing. I don't think the western leftist territories would be as strong as we think due to them having to divert so much manpower to suppress Pedro and co.

i think the left really underestimates the amount of blacks and gays that are right wing, these people will of course be disposed of when we get NatSoc (though i suppose the fags could just stay in the closet?) but til then they're a huge advantage tactically

The "Civil war" will be small groups of militants dicking with each other, most people are too fat and complacent for anything more that hiding away in their homes until the storm blows over.

The government has already admitted it, you cocksucking faggot. You’re going to hang with the rest of the kikes.

I heard about that but can't find the sauce. Do you know about that, user?

This whole theory revolves around the base idea that "states" will pick sides and not individuals and families, or even cities or counties

Truth is, if shit starts hitting the fan either through removing trump and pence on no grounds or more much more likely assassination would easily kick it all off, each and every state is going to have its own inward battle to fight.

Alabama and Nebraska, two states I've lived in for a long time each, will have the rural areas joining up to battle and take their main cities back, lincoln, omaha, birmingham, mobile, montgomery, etc. While any factions that remain loyal to the now traitor US government, even if they hold power in their respective areas, will be out manned, out gunned, and facing a battle they cant even HOPE to win due to needing to try to not only defend the area they claimed but also feed the useless city trash in those areas who may be armed but are NOT controllable and will start trying to form their own gangs in the chaos and take over turf, and they'll all be quickly mopped up

This is true for most of the south, georgia might be an outlier in that a lot of that state is turning blue and they may have conflicts popping up everywhere and so much chaos going on that no one will really know who is winning at any given time. But I suspect Alabama will intervene once their own problems are taken care of.

Then you have states like commiefornia and jewyork, that, while the states are blue, there are LARGE sections of those states that are red and they arent going to just give up. They're armed, some of them are prepared, but mostly they just simply control more land. Sure the libshit cities have more PEOPLE, but the vast majority are useless niggers who will start turf wars, or beta cucks and femitards and just general faggots who would all have an anxiety attack if you tried to hand them a firearm to fight with. But these are the people you hope to rule so you cant just kill them to be rid of them. No, you have to feed and take care of them instead, making them a huge drain on your resources. So even those deeply blue states are going to be dealing with so much shit they wont be able to effectively take out the rebellion that will be coming for them

So whats the federal government doing during all of this? Well, militarily its going to be crippled. You're going to have so much desertion that your army, navy, and marines are going to be down to fractions of their current levels. Not just desertion on ideological levels, but desertion to go protect their families. They arent going to give a shit about "peace keeping" in jew york city when their family is facing slaughter or rape at the hands of wetbacks back home in texas.

Meanwhile the government may still try to pass laws, but with the states in chaos, and the military crippled, it will amount to nothing. They'll beg the EU for help, and some of it will be given, but not enough to matter.

Meanwhile you'll have police forces and national guards who remain mostly loyal to the basic national ideals who wont defend politicians or those trying to work for the (((deep state))), and itll be open season on their kind. They'll mostly focus on protecting their own towns in small areas, and bailing to protect their families in larger cities because those cities will be beyond control.

No, the real concern is not if they try to grab power and somehow they'll have "all the blue states on their side," thats not how thats going to work. The real concern? Mexico… in part 2

great trustworthy source you got there
are you basing that on the marine survey or redteamlarpplanner

Damn, you guys really thought about that shit.
I really love Mossad psychological operations now.

So the real concern is… Mexico of all places? Yup. Because, they have a strong pro-mexican stance, lots of guns among the cartels, and they would see it as an opportunity to take land "back" from the USA. They'd quickly mobilize w/e forces they can and start plowing into Texas and the southwest, claiming its "to protect the mexican people" both the ones here and to "stop the conflict from crossing into mexico."

With so much of the far southwest of texas being hispanic, and the southwest in general along the border being deeply hispanic, they'll easily have the support in towns throughout those areas to immediately move in and secure those regions for mexico. You're talking about a lot of lost land.

Further, they'll ally themselves with the federal government and "continue to recognize it as the legitimate ruling body of the USA." Which means the democrat/leftist forces loyal to the deep state in the southwest will get bolstered up by mexico. They'll have taken much of the far south west and once they hit commiefornia, they'll start lending aid to them in their fight. Which may be enough to trample the northern part of commiefornia and crush the rebellion there.

From there, you now have all of commiefornia under leftist and federal control. The state will keep suffering due to water shortages and other issues, chaos and feeding people and such, but they'll have basic control of the state and most likely use the military bases there to launch strikes against rebel forces along the western coast.

This will basically secure them the entire western seaboard. They won't have much luck pushing beyond the rockies I suspect, but itll secure the western seaboard for the deep state and the military and economic resources there.

From there, its really anyones guess how things go. By the time all that is wrapping up, much of the rest of the country will be finishing up its problems and helping each other establish stability again and forming a new union outside the current federal governments power. DC, jew york, boston, and some other liberal as fuck places will be under the feds control using what military they have as well as whatever EU, UN, and Nato forces they were given to help. And mexico will effectively hold the entire west coast.

From there I think conflict will die down, an unstable peace will form for a time while both sides attempt to stabilize themselves and get ready for round two. And round two will be the bloody as fuck one. With much of the land mass under nationalist control and the military bases there helping them, they'll have a strong fighting chance. But, the deep state and mexico will hold most ports of entry to the states thus cutting off outside help., they'll probably blockade the gulf of mexico as well to prevent any russian help from coming in through the ports down there. But they'll also be facing a crisis of dealing with feeding everyone in their areas to prevent another rebellion, stretching them thin and stressing their resources.

At that point it all comes down to tactics. Who strikes strategic points and is able to gain control of the oppositions supplies and bases. I'm not really sure who would win, but thats how I see the next step going. A true war at that point

Wont be a civil war no coherent group left to fight like the north and south. If we have a revolution it will be a south american style socalist one.

This is complete delusion not grounded in reality.

Reminder that the Texas National Guard has a stronger fighting force than the entire Mexican Army.

Reminder also that Texans are just itching for an excuse to realize Polk’s legal southern border.

This seems very far fetched and assumes a lot, especially on the army.
The army aren't under a political ideology, they only serve their president no matter his or their political stance. If it's something like preserving the union or defending democracy, they'll definitely rally together under a patriotic cause like the former.
While California would be a foe to fight against, chances are a combined collation of Texan and Arizonan soldiers would stop the advance on up to Tuscon and push back.

How many of those fighting men in the Texas guard are mexican or sympathetic to mexicans? Probably most. This delusion you guys have that millions of fully racially aware white are on your side and going to fight for you is bullshit

And this is also autistic, the Mexican Army can't do shit and have seen combat since the revolution of the 1900s.

You obviously know little about Texas if you think that.

Hello ShareBlue

Also your list of things to prepare is wrong

Yes, being able to tend wounds, survive, etc are important. But we're not going to see "inna woods" scenarios here. We're talking military warfare with supply lines, units, etc. Yeah going into the big cities first thing is suicide. Securing all the smaller cities and gathering forces while the big cities eat themselves is a much more sound strategy.

HOWEVER, you're not going to just be living inna woods, and you need to know how to shoot, fight, run, clear a building, etc. Those will be much more useful skills in the long run. You can survive a while without food, and a few days without water if need be. If you want to stock up, your best bet are ways to purify water, locate natural sources of water, and build a small kit and stock it with a long lasting VERY calorie dense set of foods (peanut butter and some other stuff mixed together, I cant remember the recipe, but its a super calorie dense food thatll last, and a jars worth is probably two weeks of calories). Instead you need to be focusing on taking cities, securing them, eliminating enemy forces, and forming militias to retake major metro areas.

The quicker we retake our individual states and all resources and military assets associated with them, the better

Do you think Texas would be open to taking conscripts from other states?

I'm wageslaving hard and trading crypto trying to save money so that I can join my bros in the South. Vegas will be one of the first cities to fall and I need to get out. Don't start the war without me.

That blows. I hope you get out safe man.

PROTIP: Head for the plains for a bit. There's plenty of work to be found, the cost of living is lower, and you don't have to deal with niggers as much.

You also didn't name the Jew either
>>>/infowars/

You have to consider how much dissent Texas is going to be facing at home. Huston, Dallas, etc are all MAJOR liberal hives and will remain loyal to the federal government. They're likely to be able to have some control over them, and not EVERY member of the national guard and such are going to be on your/our side in this. Which means they're going to be fighting inward to begin with, leaving the gate open for mexico to force its way in the back door. Which they will no doubt do.

Thats mostly irrelevant. You're talking about a nation in total chaos with factions on both sides fighting for control of major cities and bases. As well as a far southwest that is DEEPLY hispanic/mexican to begin with and are going to CHEER at whatever military force mexico sends in and offer to help them or house them, etc.

They wont face any real opposition. maybe SOME forces from the national guard, but again they'll be busy trying to restore peace for one side or the other around so many areas in texas that they wont be able to just dedicate themselves to defending the border.

Mexico, if they arent idiots, will sweep in, use the support base they have in the wetbacks living there, and easily secure themselves a route all the way to commiefornia. From there they'll just be taking and using US military bases/equipment with the help of the local federal-loyal governments and forces. They'll exert control mainly because they'll threaten to pull out, or stop helping, or stop sending any supplies if they are not in charge, adn the leftist idiots there will suck their dicks to keep them happy and praise them as "saviors"

So no, its autistic to think the text nat guard is just going to laugh at them, that it wont have its own problems both among its ranks and inside the state itself to deal with. mexico can be inept, it doesnt matter, they're not going to be facing a lot of opposition.

Excellent argument!

Counter sage just to piss you off

Not all of us are Israeli

You don't even know the half of it. And thanks. I will try my best. I don't see something like this kicking off for at least a couple more years, which is plenty of time. All I need before I move is a job offer and a place to live. And since apartment prices aren't jacked up by dumb liberals, it should be easy enough. Makes me giddy thinking about going into battle with user bros.

Steff would be proud

your argument isn't very good either

What field are you in user?

Do they pay you hourly or by post? How does it work exactly?

That not every single user who disagrees with you isn't a paid shareblue shill? I know its a pretty revolutionary concept but just try to think about it

Dubs. Double negative. Shareblue confirmed.

Do you realize that not every post is an argument? Or have you been on pilpul too long to realize that?

I guess yo made more of a accusation, would of liked to see something to back it up withe way.

If it quacks like a duck, looks like a duck, and walks like a duck, it's probably a duck.

yes, texas takes outsiders just like the rest of burgerland, that's their problem.

Washington and Mexico won't be in control of the West Coast, Russia will be.

It's a lot easier for Russia to work with their Asiatic allies to move ships through the Pacific than to push past the EU and come though the Atlantic. The feds also have more infrastructure on the East Coast and will naturally defend the East Coast with much more vigor. Not to mention, the vast majority of the West Coast (California) is disarmed and full of faggots.

I'm not in a field as I haven't graduated college. I tried it but dropped out after a year as it wasn't right for me, at least not for the moment. My sights right now are on buying a piece of land and starting a farm, something that you don't need college for. Right now I work security and am toying with the idea of becoming a cop.

As many have mentioned before we could easily block food (life support) for population dense libtard cities and wait them out till they're dead or incapable of fighting.
All you have to do is sabotage and destroy roads/supply lines.
After they've been essentially neutralized, move in and claim them.

He's a Zionist at worst a PRcuck at best they aren't going to kill him over Pairs.

Get use to 4 more years of it.

Oy vey goyim! 1.5 Millitary and police can certain hold back 80- million gun owners!

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Come to North Alabama user. It's comfy here. One of the lowest cost of living and most are still racially aware. I always get a kick out of niggers in the city speaking of my town in hushed tones, like we're still lynching them up here. Kek. I'm glad the fear hasn't left them.

North Alabama is one of the places I've been considering because an user before told me that it's a majority white. After having lived around niggers all my life, that sounds like paradise. The other place I've been considering is Louisiana, but only because my oneitits lives there.

Global report.

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That's bullshit. Civil war makes the Jewish manipulation of the media no longer relevant. It is one of the few things that might break their power

Ah but we'd need to be organized in order to accomplish that.

The cartels are Mexico's true armed forces.

This is a good bread. I would like to add that, if such events come to pass, there needs to be some way of attacking Israel/Saudi Arabia from the confusion.

It is. All the rural townships are majority white. In my town for instance, I pay $360/month rent for my two bedroom abode. As in most places, the niggers stay huddled together in the cities.

Capture some silo's and the sub base Florida. You do the math.

No we do it because we are allied with USA and the broader Anglosphere more generally. We sent troops to defend Britain in WWI and WWII for instance. As did the USA and Canada.

Reminder that these high population zones where Liberals congregate is a means of protecting their own ports. You cut off the ports, you destroy the means of industrial commerce and logistics become fubar.

There are several choke-points in the United States where anarchy can and will be used to our advantage. The following choke points in the American power grid include the following -

Forgive me if I missed anywhere. However, most of these places are full of niggers and spics who would go looting and pillaging their liberal masters first chance they got because the gibs ran dry. The worst (read: best) part of this would be that every single one of these high density places are full of liberals who don't understand what it means to be self-sufficient and would starve without their organic, non-gmo, vegan artisan grocery stores that they love shopping at. Very quickly they would either surrender or change sides by running to the countryside.

And all it would take is several master-class sniper / marksmen to put out the power grid. It doesn't, and sure wouldn't take much.

The Mormons would likely cease control of any central planning units in the Sierra Nevada rather quickly and complete their fabled Deseret. I'm pretty sure that that wouldn't be a good thing, but one thing at a time. I doubt that a second American Civil War would happen outside of a worst case scenario when all hell breaks loose. When that happens, it wouldn't just be niggers, spics, but everything would be fair game.

Though one thing is for certain.

Look alive, lads!
We will get to kill Communists in our lifetime by the droves.

You wouldn't even need that. Just a guy who can take a deer with a clean shot every year or a fellow who does silhouette shooting.

Nope. most people in burgerland are fucking weakling beta pussies who watch cartoon and eat potato chips. The real alpha men; farmers, country christians, hard workers, prepers etc. will come out on top, strong as ever while the war claims all the gay faggot swj, feminists. It will be glorious

A full-blown civil war would be practically an instawin condition for white america. Shitlibs, kikes, and shitskins live almost exclusively in big metropolitan areas. Their people are weak and unorganized, and living cooped up in cities makes them sitting ducks. It'd be so goddamn easy to just encircle and cut off major cities and let the chimps tear each other apart. Would barely even need to kill any of them yourself. Just blockade the motherfuckers and then after they've been sufficiently starved, march in and clean house.

Meanwhile, ZOG would have to fight in guerilla warfare across at least 3 million square miles of the USA.

And speaking of ZOG, most of the military is still /ourguys/. ZOG has always known this is a problem for them, and it's why they've been so hard at work filling the military (especially the command structure) with tons of liberals, faggots, shitskins, etc. But even then, it's still heavily in our favor. Even if the top brass are zogbots, the vast majority of the grunts would still be with us. Look up the surveys on whether soldiers would comply with orders to attack US citizens an grab the guns and such. Grunts overwhelmingly said they would not. Top brass said they would follow the orders.

Bring it nigger.

if mexico helps the leftists, maybe even canada, wouldn't russia help the conservatives? remember, Alaska used to be part of Russia and Siberia is not far away.

why do you think there is a major push to fill our ranks of the military with foreigners? because they know white americans will not blindly kill their cousins because the memory of the civil war still lingers

Ok, second half.
For anyone in the northeast in a civil war scenario, the primary method of moving throughout the region is rivers, not roads. You can search "The Great Warpath" if you want to do some research on your own, but TL;DR is you can control the region much better by controlling the rivers than by anything else. The Hudson bisects NY and cuts NE from the rest of the states. The Connecticut river does the same to CT and MA. Rivers get you into and out of the Great Lakes (Erie Canal). Other anons point out the vulnerability in the power grid, but that's not my field of expertise. Others may want to rely on niggers and spics to kill each other but I'm not so sure.

The question to ask about dealing with your local lib-infested strongholds is, "where do they get their drinking water?" In my area, all of the water treatment plants and reservoirs are far outside the city. Far enough to mean defending them puts their people outside of their supporters' reach.

Finally, if you are critical, like the farmers, but want to resist without dying, be inefficient and ornery enough to make them need to occupy your town, but not enough to justify killing you. Peasants in Russia burned their crops and killed their livestock rather than turn them over to the commies, and Britain's largest army in the colonies was occupying NY and thus unable to defeat the continental army.

Very good points OP (and as well)

I guess its time for the burgers to start prepping their strategies.

honestly if you arent eating fermented meat you need to get with the programme. it's like you fucking casuals dont even like naturally waking up 3:30 am full of rage and testosterone fueled by the emerald green ray

This. I've already started seeding memes with Hispanics I know currently developing my diplomacy skills - it's hard to herd normies you have no idea. At this point Holla Forums should seriously consider pre-emptive memetic strikes meant to divide minority populations against blue leaders.

Target them with the history of Jews being behind slavery and how Democrats harvest them for votes. Likewise, those who choose blue loyalty can be promoted to positions of leadership by shilling the equality and anti-racist memes against the presumably white leadership.

Many are strongly Catholic and will be severely turned off by Pizzagate stuff. Especially documenting how Democrats create the situation with illegal immigrants precisely in order to target their children - illegals are among the most vulnerable populations, and they are preyed on heavily.

This is more difficult, but essentially just persuade them that they can rule California if they displace the white and Jewish leadership we can take California back later. They have no moral code against backstabbing their allies if they think it will forward their own career and/or family's honor.

Another thing to keep in mind is that the civil war is being actively planned and prepared for by the Deep State already. The Deep State desires to trigger the civil war so that they can choose the time and way it will happen in order to give themselves the most advantage. A way to counter this is to start seeding the meme among would-be blue loyalists the reality that Civil War 2 will be triggered by the true government precisely in order to maintain power and avoid actually giving it to the people. They will "give power back to the people" only in the most superficial sense. The way to get them to turn against the Deep State is to agree and amplify their natural populist leanings. Heavy-handed references to Noam Chomsky's manufacturing consent will go a long way as well.

Memes can be tailored for more specific populations as well. For example, history buffs would be really intrigued by the idea that the Revolutionary War was itself basically an engineered psyop. Marquis de Lafayette was the go-between so that Washington and Cornwallis could coordinate their troop movements. If you know how to read between the lines, this can be inferred from works such as Sydney George Fisher's True History of the American Revolution, which speculates about this based on key troop movements also George Washington sucked as a general and only had his position due to being a Mason.

My best tip about diplomacy - make use of narratives. Normies aren't like us, they think of everything in terms of narrative. References to popular books, movies, etc that can be used to explain how and why civil war would be triggered by the deep state are extremely effective.

Literally this. Go to sleep at midnight, wake up at 2 AM, immediately go out and chop wood. Kill a bear for breakfast, and then butcher non-whites the rest of the day.

To reiterate, I think that a civil war in a vacuum would result in an absolute slaughter against the ZOG side. Total DOTR.

HOWEVER it will be more complicated than that. We don't operate in a vacuum. The united states is the most powerful nation on earth. Its currency and hegemony prop up most of the rest of the world. The entire world WOULD quickly get involved in our civil war. Just look at Syria and how the entire world is meddling in that affair. And that's just so Israel can have some extra clay in the desert and a pipeline. It's hard to even comprehend what would happen if the US went into civil war. Literally every nation would be storming in. The chinese, the mexicans, the russians, the europeans, etc. It's be a total shitshow.

Are you retarded? Anything north of the Bay Area along the coast is basically a North Vietnam you can die of exposure in.

The real challenge in all of this will be organizing all the hicks, rednecks, hilljacks, and farmboys into a cohesive force. They've all certainly got fire in their bellies, but they're not likely to just up and go fight.

So what's your advice for guys that are "behind enemy lines"? For example, I live in the middle of the swath of urban sprawl that goes from DC to boston. Smack dab in the middle of enemy territory. Should people like me just pack up their shit and get to the heartland, or should we stay behind as insurgents doing our best to covertly sabotage ZOG's infrastructure in whatever ways we can?

It really depends on the circumstances. A lot of these guys have dreamed about fighting the government in a gun-grab scenario since they were kids. If a legit civil war breaks out, they'll be the first to join.

The real issue, imo, is triggering a civil war in the first place. People are complacent, in general aren't willing to fight unless they have to. This goes for both sides, but ZOG wins on inertia if nothing ever happens. The real question is figuring out how to get people to say "enough is enough" and fight back. Otherwise, we'll only start fighting after things have gone so far south that it becomes that much harder

I think that sabotage would be better. Cities are easy to fuck up: power lines, water supply, sewers, railroads.

I guarantee if the kikes try anything fishy assassination with the president, then there'll be one.

This is key. American reputation is already immensely damaged by ZOG having us involved in affairs all over the world. We cant forget that whether we like it or not that we live in a global world. If America falls, the world falls and for me It couldnt come sooner. What we need to keep in mind is that we are anti deep state and its hands meddling in everyones business. Let the world know that we dont care about expanding our boarders but that we have an internal problem that we need to purge immediately for everyones sake. The Jews/Masons/NWO/Neo-cons/Jesuits and anyone who supports them are our enemies. Liberal and Conservative are the same coin used by the elites. Never forget that.

The Russians care about one thing, Russia. They will do whatever they can to destabilize and destroy any threat to their perceived right to rule. They would only help to keep the USA tied down in a civil war then more than likely seize whatever they think they can take in Europe.

Though the Russians wouldn't get as far as a lot of Holla Forums thinks because the Eastern Europeans will never allow the Russians in again without massive losses, and fighting on defense is a hellva lot easier than offense. Not to mention that the Russian military of today is not the Red Army yesteryear.

Simple. Force their hand. We need to organize thousands of local militias and then take out the power grid and bam, all hell breaks loose. Who gives a shit what the media will say, many people distrust them already.

Right Wing Weaboo Death Squads Soon

Exactly. Cities are a complicated well-oiled machine. If anything fucks up, the whole thing can be massively incapacitated. Even very minor things can at least divert resources and waste millions of dollars in lost productivity.

It could be as complicated as figuring out how the best weak point to destroy some power station with thermite or as simple as dumping a bunch of caltrops on a major road and fucking up traffic flow.

trips dont lie. but if you prefer having kosher guts that dont fill you with a calm thunderous blind energy then by all means, dont eat high meat

A full scale civil war would be the biggest clusterfucks ever. The size and varied terrain of the US is a nightmare in itself from mountains, swamps, forests, deserts, urban, and prairie to name a few. That's only the tip next you have the defection issue, transportation and disruption of food production the list of problems goes on and on even if the Government was able to gain an upper hand large areas of the United States would be sympathetic to the rebels and would hold onto these feelings even if the war were to end much like the South.

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dont underestimate the amount of opportunities you'll have to recruit good white men to fight for our side along the way. think to yourself, "what would Odin do". every person you come in contact with will be a chance to stack our deck some more, make connections, or thin out the opposition. be as proactive as possible. take full advantage of whatever situation you're in

I'm genuinely curious how things would work in enemy territory in the event of a race war. Would they start rounding up and/or executing every white male, because they know there'd be a high probability of them defecting?

There are millions of whites (and more specifically, white men) in liberal areas. It's just that their votes get canceled out by fucktons of dindus. But those white men still exist even in places like new york and california. So what then?
I think even the ones who are fence-sitters or even moderately liberal would end up defecting and joining the White Side, not necessarily because they're ideologically on our level, but because the unfettered shitskins gaining control of those territories and actively and violently trying to stamp out whites would just drive them over to our side.

Read the Turner Diaries. It's technically a prophecy now, I think.

it all depends on initial conditions for how the factions fall. The cityfags and niggers are pretty fucked, but if gov stays fairly coherent and they can keep whites divided, it won't be that clear.

I was a ZOGbot. I disagree
do you know nothing about how polling and surveys are done?

that has been going on for generations

dubs of truth

Out of curiosity, what would the army do in this civil war?

Mind speaking any more about this? I'm genuinely curious. I can't fathom red-blooded good ol' boys in the military actually swooping in and fighting against white america.

I don't think there can be a Civil War as most people (on Holla Forums) think until there are actual sides drawn in a sense. In the first American civil there were two distinct sides, North and South, with their own sub-cultures, dialects, views on life, and their economies. Even their outlook on the same religion was different at that time.

Right now there are only "Democrats/Progressives" on one side and "Republicans/Conservatives" on the other in other words, Globalists vs. "Nationalists". In the US there aren't many places where diversity and multiculturalism haven't spread too. And because of that mixed with the kosher civic nationalism that is so widespread in the USA will cause problems, for what Holla Forums wants to see, which is a Racial/Purifying war.

I think we are a couple of years off from one at least, unless there starts to be some consolidation of the "sides" and even then that will take time for actual fighting to take place. And not only that but organization won't be nationwide or even statewide for a while. People will have to "fight" in their neighborhoods then community at large before it grows to the cities and states then you'd be at a national level. So many people are so intermixed with those they don't want to be that they'll have to fight to survive first then to form groups.

And if one does take place, it will be whites who want a pure White America against Whites who may actually agree on everything except for removing non-whites and only going after "the bad" ones. That may lead to problems such as infighting and fracturing. And honestly I worry more about logistics and in-fighting in the case of a second American Civil War, unless there is an outright win for White Nationalists early on and they force other whites to accept their view.

Indeed. The best breakdown of how the front lines would look would be urban vs rural.

The american civil war was unusual with regards to how civil wars commonly play out. That's because people identified with and had more allegiance toward their individual states than to the union as a whole. So when the south left, the population divided up as such, and so it ended up playing out more like a convential war between two bordering countries.

Most civil wars are far more messy. Civil war 2.0 would probably more closely mirror something like Russian or Spanish civil wars, where there's pockets of fighting all over the place.

I can tell you this now, although NJ is a democrat kike shithole, most of the whites here are redpilled as fuck. I can almost guarantee southern NJ will rebel and take up arms, however it will be short lived due to our proximity to NYC and the massive amount of Jewish presence in the state highest concentration of Jews in the world besides Israel. That alone would cause a MASSIVE military Zogbot counter insurgancy that would crush the rebels within a month or two in order to protect "the endangered Jewish population". Imagine Aleppo like destruction but instead of a city it's the whole goddamn state.

The America right is going to get fucking creamed. Again.

I'd reckon most of them wouldn't but its the women and non-whites in the military that I would 100% worry about.

Link is for racial breakdown of the military though it is over 2.5 year old now for data:
businessinsider.com/us-military-demographics-2014-8#the-majority-of-active-duty-personnel-are-white-at-70-but-white-americans-are-actually-underrepresented-in-the-military-as-they-represent-78-of-the-us-population-7

It's going to be bloody as hell. Whites in non-white Majority areas or where whites are only the plurality with the largest numbers will be terrible.

But my biggest question for Holla Forums is this:
How do we know it will be a racial war at all, and not simply Nationalists vs. Globalists?

What will it take to push it to that level? I assume that once it starts all, the gloves are off and people will go after anybody who is not of them.

Reported.

Kill yourself, retard.

Reported for admitting to it.

The minute anything OP scenario begins, the US economy will crash along with the USD. The US economy is the economic power in North and Central America. When the US economy collapses, Canada's and Mexico's will as well, and since Mexico is already having domestic trouble at home, the added stress of no money coming in will more than likely create another civil war in that country. You have to remember that just 2 years ago, the Mexican government was having to make deals with militias in southern Mexico so they wouldn't have another guerrilla war going on. I can also tell that even though Mexicans on the outside seem united, northern Mexicans hate southern Mexicans and vice versa for both cultural and ethnic reasons. I've heard from my contacts down there that that country is an even bigger powderkeg than the US and could blow at the slightest force.

I predict that a civil war in the US will cause the breakup of Mexico, with the large northern states like Chihuahua breaking away from Mexican control and trying to go on there own. Same in Canada potentially with Alberta and possibly NWT.

I'll add that the real threat is China, and there 5th column here in the US and Canada.

A country that have a fragile economy, a demographic bomb to be exploded, ecological disruption, and a shitty military, can be a menace? China collapse will be brutal too, or even worse.

It's effectively the same thing, which is why civic naitonalism is a red herring to begin with.

Even if it doesn't overtly start as a race war, we'd still push it in that direction. Think about how things happened in Russia, where it was originally Monarchists vs Republicans, and then the jews used the power vacuum to push ahead with bolshevism. Similarly, /ourguys/ would take the war from being pseudo-racial to overtly racial in nature. And even if we didn't, the niggers rioting in the cities would quickly force nationalists to gun them down regardless of whether they hated niggers before or not.

like I said, it all depends on initial conditions

Don't tend to last long any more. If they do, they weaken terribly.
But would they swoop in and fight against some lone nut McVeighs who are killing families of our bravest federal agents? Some religious nuts who rape kids? Some racists who are perpetrating another(sic) holocaust?

Besides, many are the same who have become cops, the goodest of the goyim

After any initial clashes, infighting look like by far our most likely cause of failure, and certainly will be what the jews target. But it's necessary for us to not get subverted. I'm not sure what to think, tbh

Shitskins and women in the military are not front line infantry. They always take positions that are "safe". It's a running joke that blacks will become mechanics in the military because they get to stay on base. Women take up jobs in administration and the like, and the same can be said for spics and mystery meet. White men constitute an overwhelming portion of combat troops(no military can be matched against white troops, thus they need to keep the combat rolls for whites, look at South africa, even today, the special forces are almost all white because we are smarter, more organized and able to execute complicated tactical strikes).

one more argument that whites will fight for the enemy

That's part of the reason why they are a threat. Hundreds of millions of young men with no prospects for stable relationships and a life time of work in slave like conditions. Having so many young men without any real ties to society is a powder keg for revolutionary action, hence why the Chinese elites would rather send them to die for their interests in North America and Aus/NZ. Get them out of the picture, per se.

I hope you're right user, for all our sakes.

Everybody wants to be a leader and nobody a follower, just look at the state of White Nationalist in the USA today, hell even the Ku Klux Klan is in total disarray compared to what they were in the 1920s.

Any infighting needs to be done at the very opening and our side needs to win outright before there is a chance we're co-opted.

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Reported.

I'm more optimistic. I think the reason there are such terrible leadership issues in white nationalism today is because it's been engineered this way. ZOG destroys anyone who even speaks out publicly, and so the only people willing to stand up and lead are people with shitty histories and the sort of people with nothing to lose. And the various organizations are so full of feds that there's absolutely ZERO TRUST because you never know if someone is trying to entrap you or whatever the fuck.

These problems go out the window in the event of a civil war.

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You dumbass. That's literally what happened in the first Civil War. Most of the generals who fought on opposite sides knew each other from before the war, and they compelled their soldiers to either stay with the Union or leave it. One single general, David E. Twiggs, took an entire quarter of the US army with him when he joined the Confederacy.

That is a good point, there'd be no reason to keep up playing games when the game board has been overturned.

In that case, the next civil war may be a better war then we think. Even though it'll have a huge amount of hardship for everybody involved.

Exactly. I'm still very optimistic. I think that if our differences actually trigger and snowball into a true civil war, there's no way we can lose.

IMO, the real issue is getting us to trigger that civil war in the first place. No one wants to be that first guy to step up and do something. No one wants to make the first move. But if no moves are made, we just keep getting swallowed up by diversity until it's Brazil 2.0

THIS. You get it user.

God help us (and the world) if the US and Europe goes down with no ability to recover. Leaders are such a difficult thing to come by and when you do find a good one, do whatever you can for them, organization and leadership is so incredibly important to any movement.

But I always watch video related whenever I need a boost for our movement.

I believe that something similar to what you're saying will occur. However, I don't believe that the globalist leadership is stupid enough to try and assassinate the President. If anything, they would like to avoid that and simply continue using their MSM propaganda machine. We've never seen the media levy this many attacks and conspiracy theories against anyone, and none of us can know what kind of effect this 'news' is having on the American populace. Maybe they see through it. Maybe they don't. At any rate, they're not so stupid as to wager everything they have (such as demographics) on a war.

What is more likely is that one of their believers will go too far. The media has essentially promoted violence against the President. They've accused him of being a traitor to the Republic. I'm sure that the (((pundits))) will all be 'shocked' when some misguided leftist does what their fake news told him to do! They encourage everyone to be passive and not resist authority, but despite this, there are still those within their own ranks who have the will to fight. This would be an example of Chaos seeping its way into Order. In other words, such a timeline would most likely be orchestrated by Kek himself.

If they do decide to attack Trump, then it's the death of the Republic. It doesn't even matter if Pence becomes President. When the Dems win in 2020 (checked) due to (((increased diversity))), it will kick off then. People will become redpilled on 90% of what Holla Forums has to say. They may not Heil Hitler, but it will become apparent just (((who))) is cheering on the demographic decline of whites in America and across the world. This will become a dinner table topic.

I sometimes feel that this is our fate. The leftists are going to overreact to the MSM propaganda, and it will all kick off from there. It feels like destiny.Trump was chosen from on high for this purpose before he was born. God himself taught Trump how to shitpost on Twitter.

nah, it would be 'us' (generically speaking) and civcucks and oathfags and closet jews fighting for control of rightwing whites willing to fight trying to control everyone else. It'll be a massive clusterfuck, because of that lack of leadership. The internal problems of the controlled opp would go away, which is one more reason to disregard them now. But infiltrators won't go away

That is nothing like the military or the generals of today. And it argues in favor of the idea of people following their leaders who are MUCH less likely to defect.

thread disregarded

Is it even possible to save these places if we DON"T go into a civil war? what could be done? Can president trump cut off federal funding to them for being sanctuary cities or something?

For Asians, bring up the Opium Trade and Jews. They hate drugs more than anyone.

I have an Idea.
Its inevitable that War is coming. So when it does the elites and deep staters will run and hide in their prepared bunkers. Thats where we need to strike and capture, they have food supplies to last years and its known that there are networks of tunnels connecting D.C. and other important sites via huge bunkers built by the traitorous US Gov.

VA was so close to going Trump last year I am sure the Western half is itching to go apeshit on the Eastern degenerate half.

Any Califags here? I'm fucked in the event of a civil war. I know a few mostly white neighborhoods in the hills I can retreat to if shit goes down, but we'll be holding those hills against waves of cleaver-wielding spics. We'd have the land advantage in that situation, since most of the houses are built up along the hill with plenty of trees and coverage for ambushes, and lots of high points for recon.

Historically, spics aren't very good with war, so I can only hope they don't think to set fire to the trees and bushes to force us out of hiding or obscure vision. The houses themselves in this area also make for good fortifications. A lot of them are built at the top of an upward slope, allowing one to shoot down upon encroaching enemies while offering cover to those stationed at any of the houses. One of the houses I used to live in had a great view of the neighborhood and mountains too, lots of windows and a good office space.

Well, if anything like that ever goes down, just start singing Shadilay or show me your 8 of diamonds card and we can band together against the spic/commie/antifa horde

Sometime I wonder how a race war would turn out in Mississippi considering the state is %38 black and we are all fairly integrated unlike places like Chicago, Detroit, and other major cities who's black populations are very localized and centered in relatively small ares in the North and out West.

I was talking to some black guys in Detroit recently and they have all been woken up to the fake news of the msm. So there is hope especially coming from guys in the city of Detroit where blacks have for years where fed by the msm ideas of being victims and that its whiteys fault for everything.

I've also met quite a few nigs just like that. That's probably why they're ramping up the indoctrination of college students and trying to import more obedient goys from the 3rd world. The conditioning for those already here doesn't seem to be very consistent anymore

I hate to break it to you, all them people are fucked

if they're framed buildings, they're not

Op is an idiot.

Ill break it down real simple for everybody.

Its either going to be a clean coup, or its going to lead to the largest conflagration in human history, shattering China's record they set back the Taiping Rebellions.

If its a clean coupé, it means the PATRIOT act(still around, different name), and everything associated with it gets repealed, a massive chunk, nearly all, of the NSA and CIA get imprisoned, as well as an enormous amount of the military and ex military. Entire new facilities will be built for them. Millions, but not all, of illegals and other trash "migrants" leave the country and are deported.

Dirty though? It starts with truck drivers, barge captains and locomotive engineers being too scared to go to work. Wanna know why driverless shit is being shilled so hard? This is why. Trucks not driving, derailed trains, Mississippi River barges not moving, all means one thing.

Food Riots. Big ones. No nation has ever survived them. Ever. None ever will. Now, the Elites and their turds control the Coasts, but really the USA is a Atlantic Coast/Gulf Coast/Mississippi River nation. The West Coast is our Ireland or Australia. So its control of the East, the Gulf, and the Rivers that matter. And they matter for importing food and mercenaries. Problem is, is that all of the East Coast cities are going to be on fucking fire, only the Deep South has a chance at all of retaining use of the Port Cities.

New England is either too remote or too densely populated. I dont even know how to describe how fucked the NYC Greater Metropolitan Area is. The big issue is that nobody has the spare productive capacity to feed all those people, much less transport it to them over seas.

But disruption will be nationwide, any police force that tries to Riot Gearday is done for. Any police force that uses live ammunition to try and hold an entire city is done for. You can any Nasty Girls to that. There isn't enough manpower, mobilizing everyfuckingbody, to stop this.

Which means population corrections. Lots of them. Everywhere. Its a goddamned free for all. And no, this is no tale of invincible white man conquers all, takes nearly no casualties and rides off to save the day.

The casualties from securing neighborhoods and cities, the semiurban semirural areas of 30k and under and surrounding areas will be immense and horribly destructive, involving large scale purges of people defending those they shouldn't and getting themselves killed. And people surrounded without enough ammunition. Etc etc. Families that tolerated interracial marriages, mostly hispanic/white mixes, will be hiding children in attics and closets….nobody cares about niggers. Not nearly so divisive as the white/hispanic problem.

And yeah, the gun fights from that gets bad. People who cant stomach whole families massacred.

Millions of whites will die from the fighting East of the Mississippi. Millions. From the fighting.

And thats just from securing communities that are and used to be clear majority white just 20 years ago. Then you have the issue of white evacuation from the cities and the suburbs being under siege.

So we then have to march into close proximity of these areas, evacuate any whites we can, and then hold and defend a siege. In addition, there will be raids against white territories, so yeah…

Oh and securing the gas stations is going to be fun as fuck.

And then the SouthWest and California. And then marching to what Polk wanted to take for an easily defended border. Then inevitably, Canada. I dont expect there to be more than 180 million whites left alive in the new USA afterwards. Maybe less.

We have shitloads of food produced in the US, but transpo go down and that sounds about right. The food producing and storing areas would be somewhat hostile, but it's tank and air country, so they can keep food growing, and there is oil enough for it assuming they don't waste to much on the military but getting it to the cities and distributing it will be much harder. In the meantime, it will burn anyhow.

The Mexican Federal Govt is trash.

Its the Cartels I would be concerned with. More guns, more manpower, less fucks given.

Busy dying of thirst.

Here is the breakdown of casualties for each race I've always assumed in any scenario (fighting and starvation/disease):

Whites: about 5-10 million
Blacks: about 8-15 million, given that so many live in cities where a food shortage is always the worst.
Hispanics: about 5-15 million, for the same reason as the blacks, but I also assume a lot would simply just head south of the border, so their numbers could go anywhere.

Asians: about 2-3 million, given their small numbers, but they do live in concentrated areas/cities, where food shortage is a big problem.

Browns and Muslims: maybe about 2-5 million depending on their number in the USA right now, but for Muslims, I'd wager all of them that we can get our hands on, or they leave the USA.

Lot of spics tho. Its tolerable for now.

jews better be fucking six million. regardless of how hardcore the overall nationalist side of the civil war is, we can't NOT take the opportunity to gas all kikes.

I'd rather let 10 niggers live if it meant 1 kike dying. We cannot let them survive. They will go crypto. that's going to be the hardest part of all this.

That's how they've been surviving for all these years. Either kill them all or send all of them to Madagascar.

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Did you ever doubt it?

See this shit? This is the man that will have to be killed first. The knife at our back.

The problem is most people aren't aware of who's jewish and who's not. Back in the old days, they'd at least have that shit on your birth certificate back in germany or russia or wherever.

Sure, we'll be able to easily pick out the obvious greenbergs and silversteins and moishes and shmuels and abrahams, but then there are always the deep-crypto ones that look really white. Think Gwenyth Paltrow. Except if the infrastructure is down and we can't verify people as kikes or not via internet and social media, it'll be a lot harder to do. There will be a hell of a lot more "how do you do fellow goyim?" going on.

I'm just afraid that it could lead to a witch hunt where whites with larger noses or brown hair end up getting gassed for looking "too jewy" myself included. Curly hair + brown hair/eyes

Canada has, by province, more integration with the USA than it does with itself. Its hilarious.

You forget how old the white population is.
No, its much worse, especially since hearts will harden and the war gets fought to the hilt. Spics I can see being tolerated, same with certain East Asians.

The rest are done for, and I was being very light with the casualties.

Its more like 120million surviving whites. After mass starvation, mass die off of old fuckers 60 and up who need the meds to live, and the fighting occurs.

Luckily, even 120million White Americans, in possession of the USA, still has the strongest position on the planet.

This thread kinda became tldr; after a while but since I live in this area, here's something to throw out there regarding New England (mainly ME, NH, MA):

Maine and NH will not go commie, period. MA's leadership may try, but the only people who like weapons are conservative (or spics with no coordination). Keep in mind Trump got ~50% of the vote during the primary in MA and the only reason Hillary won the general was because of strategically placed sanctuary cities and guaranteed voter fraud. If you look at the voter demographics, it's ~500k R, ~1.5m D, however OVER 2 MILLION INDEPENDENT. These people are generally conservative but do not support (((GOP))). The dems use these stats to call MA a blue state but it's actually a grey(?) state with a significantly larger conservative presence than most realize. The only thing MA could try to do is get the police to enforce some kind of martial law but I doubt they'd comply unless there was an actual perceived threat. Also NE cops backed Trump in the election, so yeah.

All that said I can't say much for the other NE states. If some kind of civil war played out in the US I doubt NE would do much besides observe and virtue signal any way they could without sparking internal revolts.

Nuke earth from orbit.

One thing that people here forget is that Jews are not powerful because of some magical quality inherent with being Jewish. Jews are powerful because they have powerful international Jewish advocacy organizations. And they are the most ethnocentric people on the planet. Destroy the Jews' ability to organize, destroy their identity as Jews, and you will destroy their ability to subvert.

This is true. Though the crux of the matter is we want to drive them to do it. We want to incite the muds and commies at every step. We want them but only them to see "ebil natzis" behind every corner and go full chimp out. We want them to kick it off not according to ZOG plans. I say this because anytime someone on our side does something it 1. poor choice of targets and/or 2. We don't support them. Everyone is waiting and that is the problem. Like the solution to saving the race is going to fall out of the sky one day.

No war = We lose

The armed right-wing with technical skills (from having real jobs) and high cohesion due to being white vs the multicolored unarmed unemployed leftfags trying to make faggots and mudslimes work together. Can't fucking wait.

I like your ideas, but we have zero coastlines in the pic you shared. If anything virginia down would be ours, as would florida to texas coastline.

True. I make sure they know they aren't welcome every chance I get. Luckily they mainly consolidate together a couple towns over. When this goes down my men and I are going to cleanse that shit hole.

The most difficult part is securing a piece of the west coast so we could receive equipment and supplies from either Russia, Iran or the other BRICS nations. My suggested course is to seize NorCal and southern Oregon to have a sea connection on the west.

yeah, but the rockies are a bitch internally anyhow. they can get ships to texas just about as easy if they were to supply the middle of the country

How feasible would it be to take over the panama canal again? Thatd be a great way to totally cut apart ZOG supply lines, since their major areas would be on the west and east coast

fucked up how the mind works, that earworm is still burrowing

They'd get slaughtered immediately unless they were Europeans, who would be stalled protecting big cities. Europeans have no sense for how vast the USA is. When my buddies from Germany came to visit they thought we'd be able to drive from NYC to Chicago in a day or just take the train. They'd go insane driving 3+ days across the Midwest just to get IED'd when they reached a chokepoint.

Chinks would just get killed on-sight unless it was Special Forces chinks using the chaos to steal business/manufacturing/military data which is not really our problem during the Civil War anyways. Russians will be training the red side, and of course you'll have Mossad scooting around but they'll be in big cities protecting kikes, not really out in the country.

You may be fooling other anons but you aren't fooling me. NJ is filled to the brim of niggers, spics, kikes, pajeets and other left leaning gib-gobbling non-whites. You might be tricked into thinking your little white enclave housing development is "red" but outside those walls it's planet of the apes. I know I lived in NJ for a long time before I moved to a red state. And every time I go back I have to double check my pulse to make sure I didn't die and go to hell.

The problem with places like that would be the people fleeing from those cities attempting to go innawoods, or steal everything they can along the way. Living about 100 miles away from one of our nations cesspools I've thought that so as to not be over run with fleeing vermin it would be best to drop the interstate bridges. Stragglers on foot walking 100 miles is a better option than dealing with 100,000 of vehicles loaded with desperate starving people invading other areas. Rural areas everywhere will be invaded by those who fled with just the clothes on their back.

When shit hits the fan, the elites will retreat to the king's forest.
I.e. all the national parks land in the NW and other reserved lands. Any survival minded anons heed caution of these areas innawoods.

You are absolutely right. There will be invading hoards especially in communities closest to the interstate highways.

OP, you are a colossal faggot and an idiot. You clearly don't understand how COG works, you don't understand the military's rule, and you don't know any of the common war have scenarios. Go drink bleach before you post again.

I fucking hate summer.

Posting for self-preservation. I have no friends or family and am a poorfag in a city that is about 2 hours drive from the beginnings of vast wilderness. Between here and there are small cities/suburban areas, but if I take a C route around that, I can go through small town/rural nothing areas.

I think food riots and gasoline shortages are the most likely event, and even that I give sub 20% chance of happening. In that case, can I simply drive the fuck out of here if it starts looking bad? Assume 3/4 tank of gas. Will there be road-blocks or whatever set up? I don't know if the normie response is to start driving towards the woods, and if the residents between here and there would start blocking roads or what. I also figure that if anything gets blocked, it would be the interstates, so I could plan routes in advance that would only use blue highways or local roads.

I should buy some fishing gear and snare wire… Otherwise I have basic survival gear in my car, a gallon of water, a jug of applejuice, and 1 week food supply.

Seriously, can I just go camping for a few weeks until it blows over?

We need nationalist to get into the military, especially in positions of power. The niggers have already been setting themselves up for this since the 70s. They get procurement positions and run the armories so, in the event of a race war, they control the weapons and ammunition. We need control of the ammunition, mortars, vehicles, etc. so we have equipment on our side and loyal soldiers. There needs to be as many nationalists as possible establishing the dominant influence on the military (officers and enlisted) but not being vocal or drawing attention to themselves before the time comes.

Indeed. I live in a fairly conservative area that's a peninsula, but technically an island now that it has a canal. It's actually one of the most important areas of the country, due to the waterways that go through it.

Anyway, a team could fairly easily blow up the bridges that cross the canal, and a few other bridges that cross the peninsula to the mainland. Although the area would have a decent number of niggers in it, and also an airforce base smack dab in the middle. Still, this is the sort of thinking people should be doing.

Something that I don't think has been brought up here yet - what about Canada? Would it side with the leftists? Nationalists? Neutral? Claim neutrality yet support a side? Act as a refuge for fleeing Americans (of both sides or one only?) Would it sweep down into the breadbasket, making it a 3 front war for the nationalists? Would foreign leftist/zog forces use Canada as a staging ground for that third prong? Or something else? I mean, fuck, we have one of the worlds largest borders to the north and no one has brought up Canada. I may have a huge hand to play

Interesting point. Canada only has a population that's 1/10th our own, and most of it is only a short distance from the US border.

tbh, it'd probably be more beneficial for us to get canada directly involved. It'd mean more heartland breadbasket territory for us to control. And otherwise, you have a situation like in modern-day Syria where ZOGbots are training/amassing rebel troops in jordan along the Syrian border. Meanwhile, if we do get Canada involved, we could use their territory similar to how vietcong would travel through cambodia.

Cape Cod? You fucked bruh.

nah bro. Delmarva peninsula. The peninsula is surrounded by commies and faggots in all directions, but the peninsula itself is /ourguys/. Basically the same as white southerner.

I would counter that china would be terrified of their soldiers arriving here and learning from us how to wage proper war in many facets. And then returning home. Our empire is terrified of vets, more so now than any time before since now we have first hand experience in how to royally fuck shit up in a true insurgency setting and direct views into how fucked the system is at fighting it. China would feel even more irritation against such things.

It would be far more likely they push to seize control of the south china sea and try hard to lock down their close neighbors to secure women and food. Pushing into the U.S. presents nothing for them but cost and risk. And by the time any of their forces manage to figure out how to wage war here, the one or more of the insurgent american forces are going to have hands on nukes, and are likely to have already used them against globalist cities domestically. Making the prospect of China getting directly targeted by nukes exceedingly likely if they enter into anything more than sending some token supplies as good will. China cannot really respond in kind in such a situation and would know it since it would only embolden their enemies and cause even more blowback attacks later, while more than likely help rebels more than anything anyway.

China would do better sending over chink whores. You and I know asian fever aint going away and would be a pretty nifty way of ingratiating themselves into a new nation by comforting the fighters and becoming loyal wives. Would fuck our racial goals up, but china likely wouldn't care either way about that.

I thought Cape Cod too. It's fucking ridiculous they put a nuclear plant right next to the bridge which is the chokepoint for the entire 'island' (and the west-most point :o). Also Cape Cod has doomsday-scenario traffic leaving every week so I'd hate to see the place in an actual crisis. You would be much better off fleeing to the tip and heading for NH/ME by boat so if you live there you better have a boat available and plenty of gas on hand.

I could see your numbers only happening if a group like us wins and wins fast over control over most of the nation. I seriously doubt it will be like that. Most such wars stretch out for 6, 10, 20 years and those are in nations far far smaller and much more homogeneous or culturally similar.

If shit goes fubar due to our lack of ability to organize I fully expect waves of conflict to constantly erupt for decades across the continent and little of the U.S. to be anything of the sort. More akin to a balkin style clusterfuck. The number of survivors ten to fifteen years on from start is unlikely to be above 45 million for the entire north american span, including canada and mexico. Even most of us here on Holla Forums are heavily influenced by movies, books and games which showcase how against all odds the good side wins. That is not how life works and in such a massive cluster fuck, only the hardest and most brutal that can ruthlessly subdue all around them will survive, and none of them will give such power up for years if that is the only thing keeping their family alive.

Hell, this conflict starts off tomorrow I fully expect by the end of the month the entire stretch from SD to LA to be out of water. It would take nothing to destroy their water supply system and cripple the few main routes back east. Which means 5-14+ million people whom will die in less than a week unless they flee. Which due to the nature of the area they have to go north or south, and there would be no way to handle such an flight. If not blockaded the entire western seaboard will be depopulated in its entirety for all intents and purposes. They simply have no water. SF will be consumed by millions of refugees and even more attacks I am sure, the high desert will take care of anyone else whom cannot suckle at the tit of what few ships arrive to drop resources. That is one area. One.

Assuming the loss of Texas and Louisiana's refineries. You can cook kerosene, diesel and gasoline from a host of sources. Landfills are filled with plastics then there are coal, tires, asphalt even common organic litter like grasses. That can keep small operations going until actual refineries locally are produced or you convert some wood burning engines. The wood in many homes can be cut and burned even to fuel vehicles. The lardfat of millions of fat shitskinns could even have use in such cases by cooking out usable fuel. You don't need the local 7-11 if you think.

Whilst somewhat true, they also only are deployed for criminals, those being almost all non white. Thus they get paid to shoot niggers, what have you done user?

C'mon dude

First off, it's Texas with a capital T. Secondly, you make the mistake of thinking that at the start of this second civil war, all those beaners won't become refugees to Mexico, bringing their families, their wealth and their job skills with them. If we even hint that it's not just a civil war, but a race war too, those spics will vamanos to Mexico so fast they'll put speedy Gonzalez to shame, where they'll ride it out and see who wins.

The mexican army will be too busy trying to maintain law and order from all the spic refugees heading south, with the cartel enforcers trying to keep a grip on their territory. The Mexican navy would have no reason to blockade anything and if they did it would be the Panama canal to take that and charge huge fees to bring some money into mexico. If they tried to do anything blocking the gulf their ships would be easily defeated by neo pirates. Their fleet is a joke en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexican_Navy#Present_fleet

as long as you're white

I hope they try, would give us a good excuse to conquer Mexico, also how is the US going to pay mexico for their soldiers coming in? Mexico can barely wipe its own ass, once chaos reigns in America, they're more likely to accept funds from China and/or Russia.

This user gets it

Any tips for an Alabama user? The town I live in seems to have a huge population of spics. Plenty of whites own guns though.

SJW dyke Reality Winner who was leaking NSA documents to the press about Trump served in the military for example.

China would be unlikely to invade Australia. Our oceans and submarine fleet would make landing a significant force all but impossible and our large space and large bush lands and desert would make holding the territory incredibly costly. The size of Australia is larger than the US for example. If China would invade anyone it would be other east asian or south east asian countries.

Trump will mantle Kek and be martyred for our sins.

Then the war against the left will begin.

i wouldn't be surprised if you get volunteers from other white countries to help you.

War is among the few things that can break social programming and manipulation.

Whites have a better chance of surviving a civil war then another 3 decades of the multiculturalist propaganda.

I think any civil war will be neighbor and against neighbor and niggers vs the cops