FATAL FRAME / PROJECT ZERO 零

FATAL FRAME / PROJECT ZERO 零

Tier list?
Best versions?
Shit list?

I've played 1,3,4 and Wiimake. I've played Wiimake multiple times. I've played 4 twice now. The rest once. I've never beaten the game beyond Normal, maybe Hard on Wiimake. Beaten the Wii ones on native then emulator.

Having just beaten 4 again, honestly the Wii games are dogshit. I knew this much already as the same pains come up everytime I tell myself I'm going to play through them to get all the endings and shit. They're great for extras, lots of pretty costumes with fuckable TecmoKoei characters to keep things fresh, more recent visuals.

However, everything about the gameplay is about wasting your time and not much else. Picking up everything up is a minigame, load times are now awful, running speed is awful (only reason I rebeat Wii games on emulator is cause they have movement speed increase to 6x at button press). Particularly in games where exploring all past areas after every chapter is key to finding everything on offer. It's torture. Cannot see all around character at all times. 4 is super casual because you can buy a million health boosts and powerful film with the points you get. Aiming is now done automatically and just waiting for the right moment. Aiming up and down at points is done by tilting the wiimote which is fucking awful. Long ass areas to run through just to find the right event trigger.

I fired up the first game on PCSX2 just for curiousity and holy fuck it's so much better. Even in the first few minutes you can get stuff done by just doing it, where as the new ones are deteremined to consume as much time as possible. Thanks RE4.

They also have classic RE controls and full retard controls in the older games, where as the Wii games are RE4 style only.

Worth noting the first game is 60fps and looks so pleasing on the eyes. Watching some Xbox gameplay via youtube it looks to be the best version, even rivalling PCSX2. I'm interested to know if the 2nd game on Xbox is 60fps as well but I suspect that's a no. 3rd game is PS2 only so 30fps only like 2nd game.

I knew the older games were much better, but I was more inclined towards higher polygon waifus, but now I feel it needs to be said that people should stay the fuck away from the wii games at all costs.

I used to think 2 was the best one (just from playing the wiimake), but thinking back 3 years to when I first did a single playthrough of the 4 games, I would dare to suggest 1 and 3 are the best. For me, 2 has too much running around between the locations, where as 1 and 3 are more compact. 3's twist actually seems interesting in hindsight for the multi-character approach for the first time in the series changing your approach, though I do remember the time-limit portion of the game being ballbreaking when trying to find what you're looking for.

3 does have the story piece in between chapters which could be a hassle if I went for multiple difficulties in succession, but I would prefer it compared to 2's running simulator all the time.

So all this interest came about out of nowhere, apart from I've bought a Wii U again because I sperged out on an eBay auction and I'm on the fence about whether to splash on the physical version of Project Zero V. I've hard some bad things, but I'm sure it's worth one playthrough? The running speed looks improved, Wii U gamepad might actually be really good for the game. Not sure about door loading times. Funny enough I flipped two copies of the limited release for a profit at release so I deserve to pay $100 for a copy. Shame about the bikinis but it will do for now until a few years and Wii U emulator with modded ISO etc. Dunno how CFW Wii U is and whether they already have it all fixed already, but I want this Wii U for playing online and I'm not sure what FW it's on.

I really want to like this series. The concept is great. I love the parts where you're just wandering around creepy old Japanese ruins, but then the combat starts and it isn't fun anymore. I have bought multiple of these games, hoping that this will be the one where they finally get the combat just right, but it never is.

Only played 1,2,5 Think I enjoyed 2 the most. Loved the setting compared to the others.
5 is alright, the Wii U gamepad works great. Only downside about the game is that it's separated into many smaller chapters.
Going to try 3 soon, just need to bother to setup the emulator.

I've only finished the 2nd (Xbox version) and 3rd Fatal Frame game

I couldn't tell you which one I liked more.

You can softmod the Wii U and still play online since the latest firmware (5.5.1) works with the softmod. I have yet to play 5 since I need to learn Japanese and I refuse to buy or play the censored versions.

4's controls are garbage and too easy. 2 Wii made the auto aim not so heavy and the final boss was a challenge. BOTH have waggle which I hate.

Like you, I also like 3 the most but then I have 2 Wii right after it. Just make sure to play either the undub or the Japanese version unless you like chav dubs.

who the fuck came up with this retarded name

The Jap name is "Zero".

The series has always been garbage tbh, not even scary anymore. It's just saggy anime ass and tits freakshow at this point.


japs are retarded

I see where you're coming from. Combat can take quite a while to resolve in certain situations and it doesn't feel like it changes enough for what it is. I mainly get kicks out of the survival horror + arcade (Kamiya?) type combo in being efficient and scoring high.

So basically there's no "open world" type approach that opens up more as you move on? If I understood, I could see this only being a small benefit as it means less "exploring" (basically you go back over more and more area as the game world grows larger to find what little autist-bait items and encounters the devs have placed off the path you're supposed to be taking, after every single chapter, just to be sure), but otherwise it could make it phoned in linear shit like every good ol' classic game has to do now because of budget limitations and shit while they convince us it's a good thing.

Do you know what the framerate was? Wondering if I should buy a shitbox 360 to play the 2 games in best way with most extras. Embedded a video of the first game on Xbox at 60fps.

I've only ever played the first game in Japanese and only had to look up help to get translations of Jap number symbols. Played, undub of wiimake and 3. Personally I would just play the English dubbed versions these days. I know what it meant to care though. Wiimakes dub is pretty gud.


Zero by itself would be a good name for finding something in English. Jap title is just Zero.

I was supposed to say wouldn't* be a good name. It's too plain.