California Taxes May Potentially Tripple

I learned this lesson when I was 6 years old with Sim City 2000. You can't borrow money to pay off the interest of other loans. Nor can you take bigger loans to pay off smaller loans you previously took.

I hope to God this causes a mass migration of already bedded down shitskins from across the country into Commiefornia.

California apparently never played that game

They're already moving to Texas, Colorado and other states.

Nuke or wall, before it's too late.

Alternatively, all illegals are going to bum rush california for the free healthcare. This could potentially sink cali & make the other states better.

Why does a state need 140 billion dollars even with all of those wetbacks?

Idaho too, user. Even we're getting these faggots.

Let the purge begin.

CA legalized weed last year.

But I want to purge now

Oh yeah actually, just the other day I was reading an article about how Boise is becoming a "mecca for hipsters" that will rival Portland at some point. They're the kind of retards who will move away from the diarrhea-smelling shithole that is Los Angeles, or the overpriced jew-infested faggotopia that is San Francisco, only to arrive in a place like Idaho and then complain how there's too many guns and too few minorities around. They're literal cancer cells in human form.

This would be the best case scenario if they're all consolidated into one area. It would help us consolidate our own power in the rest of the country.

What the fuck?

He has had the opportunity, and he has done nothing.

It's asians and south americans. I'd imagine most of that money is going to obesity related diseases AND old people care. And there are a lot of old boomers here.

They also want to join the paris climate agreement. State mandated carbon tax credits, goy! And the governor just increased the gas taxes a few months ago, too.

Need to kick these faggots out.

Not to mention all the 3rd world tropical diseases those jungle niggers are spreading to the US from central America.

Most, if not all, of those diseases are easy to treat. It's the zika like consequences that will cost the state gobs of money. Tard wrangling ain't cheap, user. Nor is palliative care of the old or slowly dieing.

the funny thing about that is that people who drive electric cars don't get off scott free; they have to pay a flat-out fee under this tax just so the government can squeeze money out of them too

Well, honestly, electric cars do damage the roads. If they don't buy gas, they can't pay the gas tax, so, how else is the government supposed to make them pay their fair share?

I'm thinking of things like malaria, Nile virus, Dengue fever and even the fucking ebola.

Individually? Perhaps, but now imagine administering medicine and care for all this shit for dozens of millions of people.

But user, CA already does…

Not through a single payer system.

15% payroll tax increase that only cover half of the $400 Billion. I wonder where they're going to get the other $200 Billion. But since this covers illegals as well… there is no way it is only going to cost $400 Billion. Adios California.

No. They can all fuck off out of my country.

They may as well set the number at a Trillion California-Land Fun bucks. Either this doesn't pass without being reworked or you're witnessing the end of that entire state.

Does the medical service charge the people fees for simply using the services?

Overload the system via massive influx of niggers a-la Turner diaries

California is physical proof that the nicest places go to the worst fucking people

not if you are homeless or a beaner, you can walk in, use the emergency room and walk out without paying or use MediCal.

Dubs confirm, they are cancer.
WE ARE ANTIBODIES!

Seattle used to be a pleasant blue collar city, believe it or not. Californians have been moving to Washington and Oregon in droves for decades, trying to turn them into liberal safe havens whenever the going got tough in California.

We're trained to deal with these commies. It's the other western states I'm worried about.
They have yet to truly experience the Californian menace.

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Considering that these states have the demographics of oregon during the ban on negros… and no experience with hipsters, you may have a point. Luckily, these are working states with no tech industry, mostly owned by oil and cattle barons, where EVERYONE has ten guns and you can still hang rustlers. If we want to prepare them, we need cowboy memes.
Make Cowboys Cool Again!

How are the calfornian government supposed to fund the medical health when beaners and homless people are just draining them?

Passing the unpaid bills to the others should be illegal. It is not their bill to pay for others.

they cant, why do you think they cant balance their fucking budget?

Welcome to California, where making 100K per year puts you in the middle class, for now

Yeah doesn't Seattle still have a statue of fucking Lenin, how is that dealing with commies exactly

I don't want to troll you americans, but most of USA power depends on california, if it collapses USA is fucked

Do you have a single source to back that up

Oh no whatever will we do without all the tech companies that produce no physical products?
Its not like they aren't massive international corporations.
Or did you mean the farms? OH NO THE AVOCADOS! THE ALMONDS! THINK OF THE BEANERS

Because they don't think like a businessmen.

I am glad that I am not living in California. The way they handle the budget is unbelievably stupid. Seriously they need to salt the leeches to get them off.

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oh no if california collapses I wont be able to live 4 hours away from my job in Sanfrancisplsgo,
I wont be able to hire gangbanging beaners to shoddily trim my lawn
I WONT BE ABLE TO AFFORD MY DAILY NO CAF WHIPPED SOY MACHHIATO WITH LEMON SPRINKLES.

State senate already added all children onto MediCal "regardless of immigration status".

The unemployed children don't pay the taxes, do they?

Watch brown go!
see him chase away all those nasty jobs!
marvel as those high house prices come down down down.

This is only going to further cement people on the west coast's belief in UBI. Holla Forums is too dumb to realize that, though.

My point was that they added illegal immigrant children on.

Yeah, in Seattle. The rest of the state and Tacoma is still blue collar.

The illegal children are going to breed even more and ended up even greater burdens, which means the taxes will be even higher in the future.

What possibly would go wrong?

What indeed. Especially if Trump goes through defunding Sanctuary Cites.

That make it even more interesting. Imagine all the chaos ensure to follow.

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This really pisses me off too and it's a big problem. These faggots move out of the hellhole they created and smear their shit wherever they settle. They essentially turn these new states into mini-California by voting in marxist policies, raising housing prices and eroding local culture.

On another note I was over my mom's house and she was watching a real estate tv show that took place in southern California. These faggots (literal marxist lesbians) payed $750k for a shitty 2 bedroom house would only cost around $100k in the area I live. $750k where I live would get you a very nice home with land. Whenever I think of it I laugh. These people pay out the ass and live in shit for the pleasure to pay for little Pablo's education and dreamer status. The entire state of California is a joke and every single on of those people deserve to rot in the hell they created.

lots of small towns in commiefornia where people are halfway decent.

all of us are way too fucking poor to move though.

The horrific truth of your statement is that this isn't just what California is doing. It's what every single nation on Earth that has a (((Central Bank))) is doing.

All of them. Every single one. They can't keep getting away with it forever. It will end one day and then it will be "Game Over" for real. And like everybody else I'm just sitting here eating my toast and getting ready to go to work and trying to ignore it.

Look at this real estate.
or
Look at this and laugh.

Sorry to hear that Calibro but whenever these swaths of Californians move they bring their degenerate culture with them. That's how decent people turn "halfway decent" And what's "halfway decent"? White people who have developed stockholm syndrome after decades of Shekelsburg fucking them in the ass and now Martinez fucking them in the mouth? That's no way to live man.

Luckily Texas is making itself a poison pill for such riff raff.

God This state is trying to fucking kill us.

The melbournians did same thing in Queensland and they have the nerve to whine to the whiners that it's too white (yes that happened).

I mean Queenslanders. Sorry about my error.

Unfortunately a lot of Commiefornians are moving to states like Texas because there are actual jobs there and far cheaper property prices. They are like a disease.

Let Commiefornia become a nation so USA can put the fence aroud the borders to block them from infecting the USA.

Spics kill specs every day and most of them register as "white". people wont notice or care like they do now.
Yes because the white people in Cali are illegal wetbacks? Also if they remove us then good luck running the farms or any company thats worth a damn.
And this wont spark a civil war…
They have been so buthert all they will do is cry as they watch their city of Babylon crumble.

Seattle's fate was sealed when grunge got popular.

Never underestimate the average liberal. These are people who, after being shown the horrors of communism will still decry "That's not real communism".

Where is that UBI money going to come from, retard?

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Our taxes in commiefornia are already crazy. They just raised gas taxes. I'm pretty sure we have the highest gas prices in the country now.

On a larger note, our healthcare as a whole is unsustainable. Healthy, working class people cannot afford preventative treatment, especially if they need to take days off work to receive it. However, we dump massive resources into people who are dying. Why? because waaaaaahhhh muh feels.

If someone is 90 years old and gets cancer, like sorry bro but fuck you. We need to put our foot down at some point. If someone gets a disease with a 90% kill rate, like sorry bro but deal with it. It's a waste of money. For one 90 year old cancer patient we waste enough resources that could massively improve the lives of hundreds of working age people. And they are just gonna die anyway.

If we would stop being massive crybaby touchy-feely faggots, we would recognize a good use versus a waste of medical resources. But noooo. This is the same as the social security crisis and the pension crisis and the same fee fees that make people want to take in every third world dog.

It has to stop at some point, or you go bankrupt. But my god you can't even name the elephant in the room or people cry about "putting grandma in a death list". This WILL bankrupt us as medicine advances. More tech, more money, and there are currently neither limits to how much we will spend on a lost cause nor limits to how long we delay the inevitable.

If old fucks had any decency, they would go off to the mountains so they don't burden their family and state. But they don't. They incur literally MILLIONS in medical cost, whether the insurance covers it or not this IS an expenditure of resources, and then they die anyway.

We have kids who can't get a filling. We have working people who can't get medication or see a doctor or get a screening. And 95% of medical resources are spent on old fucks to delay their visit to hades for a few months, maybe a year or two.

We have to name the elephant in the room. It is a hard truth, but it is a truth.

How you feel about turd worlders? The same applies to old fucks.

You're retarded. The hospital incurred the costs. Either someone pays or the hospital absorbs it and goes bankrupt after 90 mexicans come through demanding CAT scans for the flu. I'm ashamed to share a board with you. Go read an economics book.

The only way to prevent this is to NOT TREAT THEM IN THE FIRST PLACE.

Not a legal citizen or on a valid travel visa? No healthcare, period, unless you have cash in hand. Not a check, not a card. Cash. Even if you're bleeding out on the floor. But this triggers the fee fees and you'll have pictures of dead beanlets that make everyone on facebook cry and demand treatment for every turdlet who walks by.

There are hard truths in life and at some point we became too morally weak to acknowledge them. Healthcare is expensive and a limited resource. If you give it away to welfare niggers and illegal beanlets and old fucks, there is none left for working class citizens who actually produce something. Doctors and hospitals need to be paid somehow. And beaners, niggers, and old fucks sure aren't working. So who ends up paying, despite receiving none of it themselves?

Da dun da dun da dun daaa. Oh, working age white people.

Maybe if you shithipster fucks rode a bicycle instead of driving everywhere, your traffic wouldn't be so bad. In one hand you masturbate over how environmentally friendly you are, in the other you have LA, the traffic apocalypse, where a bike would literally be faster if you would forbid everyone from trying to drive everywhere all the time. You can sit in traffic 2 hours, or you could have just biked in and gotten there in 30 minutes.

Ya'll niggers need to homestead. I'm in this shit state and everyone is on fucking gibs. Now I'm on a square mile backed up to BLM land and I can self sustain. My businesses don't pay taxes because they're cash only services that should net over 300k next year combined. Fuck California. once the welfare state her implodes all the mudslimes and niggers will probably trek up to Portland or Denver.

They're taking over major cities primarily. Trying to enforce their narrative on large population groups.

You don't find them out in the country because they can't survive out here.

Holy shit calicucks

what a fucking awful state

Something like 10% or more of Holla Forums is from california, dumbasses. Big cities are the tumors.

Sigh. Ever been to West LA? I have, quite a bit actually. I commuted from San Diego to see my girlfriend, an executive at a major telecom. She lived in a penthouse in Century City, and her 6 figure job was in walking distance. Rooftop parties, exclusive clubs, the most beautiful people, all living a life of being drunk every day. Hedonism is king, and these people earn and pay for their way of life. I'm not defending the morality of the lifestyle. I'm just informing you flyover state happyhicks that there's more to property value than the number of bedrooms, especially when you're a serial monogamist who's probably renting them out anyways.

The lot isn't even 2500sqft.

Sure the closest gay bar, pot shop, coffee shop and yoga club probably add a ton of value in LA but as for raw property value? This is highly upcharged.

Shut the fuck up. I cannot begin to tell you how many CA users from Holla Forums have asked for CA to be nuked. We fucking live here. We know what the cancer is really like.

Illegals, drug addicts, and criminals not using real names are the reason the chargemaster lists a single use surgical glove set at $100.

Value is determined by the buyers. The people buying these properties could live anywhere they want, but all want to live in the same 100 sq. mile coastal valley.

Sorry Arkansas-bro. Here, these are called mountains. Cheer up.

Not true. Many are stuck doing so because they work in film, writing or some other LA/Hollywood type thing.

The Valley is a SHITHOLE and you know it.

I would say "nuke it" as a meme answer just to be lighthearted, but the prospect of giving up clay, especially clay that we rightfully won from beaners after the Mexican-American war is nothing short of heresy to me. I would love this state if all of the beaners were killed or kicked out so property prices can drop down to a reasonable level again, businesses don't hour $7/hr Pedro over you, and Whites can make Los Angeles great again. The land itself is fucking beautiful, but it needs to be purged of all of the cancer.

If you're going to nuke anything, nuke downtown Los Angeles and maybe the heart of Hollywood. I'd say SanFran too but it would be nice if we could go the door-to-door-everybody-on-the-floor route. If we can't just take it out. Maybe you'll trigger the fault line SanFran is sitting on and unleash hell upon them.

You bought into the (((insurance))) lie that healthcare must cost as much as it does. Why does an MRI at a hospital that accepts insurance cost over $2,000 while the same thing at an independent facility costs $400 cash? Why does a single tablet of aspirin at a hospital cost $8? Why are doctors prohibited by insurance contract from seeing any patients for free (or even charging them reduced price) anymore? Why do patients who pay cash instead of having insurance end up paying 3-4x what the insurance company would give the hospital for the same patient's care? it's due to the insurance carriers' contracts with the hospital Why do we allow Wall Street types to buy the only source manufacturing a generic drug and then raise the price 100x or more?

There has to be a paradigm shift. Your argument is tantamount to saying Germany could never afford to rebuild its infrastructure, military, and raise the people's standard of living, "because the Weimar Republic faces hard economic truths". Hitler didn't buy into the (((lies))), and completely revitalized his nation. We could do the same.

I was referring to the Westside, not the San Fernando valley.

Please. If you want to redeem yourself you're going to need some demolition crews. Your city is filled with jew shit jew pavement with jew stores on it on jew streets.

Fuck off, retarded cuckold. And the vast majority of people in LA are impoverished beaners barely scraping by to pay rent even though they're sharing their shitty studio with all of their kids, parents, cousins and aunts. You go anywhere south of Dodger Stadium and east of Pasadena and you feel like you've been teleported to Honduras, complete with the shitty crumbling infrastructure that hasn't been maintained since the 1970s.

The US should keep Napa and Imperial valleys that actually produce some agriculture worth shit and nuke the rest of that state with hydrogen bombs.

Well mate then lets start with the pharmaceutical companies and major insurance providers. Do you have any suggestions?

Because honestly the amount of money insurers and pharma holds over lobbies in politics is up there with Monsanto.

There are attorney generals in Ohio right now that are trying to sue pharm companies for their recommendations. Opiate problems and ODs are everywhere there.

If you nuke the big cities, you're nuking a lot of white prosperity. There are multi-generational family owned restaurants everywhere, and some of the most beautiful and intelligent white people have amalgamated to these regions over the past ~150 years, risen to the top, and held their ground. The weather is better than anywhere else in the world, too. We need a doctrine of white power and to expel the jews, stop subsidizing niggers and beaners who SURROUND LOS ANGELAS LIKE A RAT WARREN and let nature take its course.

Before Hollywood was a thing, Los Angeles was a cattle town. Californio ranchers. There is nothing that city has, other than, everyone is already there.

Can we please get state of Jefferson already?

*west of Pasadena

Lmao I missed he was there to visit a gf

She is definitely getting railed by other guys. It is LA. You're a cuck.

The amount of Wews to be had……oh the Wews…

August is hell in the LA basin.

You fucking moron, the california valleys produce unique fruits, especially citrus, which almost all get commercially shipped to asia where people pay notoriosly ridiculous prices for rare fruit. Only native sons of california are the whites who know what good citrus tastes like; it puts florida to shame.

Sour grapes. She was hot as fuck, it was a summer fling, and the rooftop and beach parties were full of fit people drinking $85 pitchers of vodka lemonade. Eat those sour grapes, broke ass flyover state faggot.

No shit you flaming faggot

From hard working whites who can barely afford to have 2 kids as it is.
And where will it come from after the shitskins have out-bred us? I'm guessing the kikes plan to cull the population to a more manageable level at that point.

I won't lie, she once collected another duy's number right in front of me. I walked over to the bar and did the same thing, she got really pissed. But that's the cancer that is serial monogamy. I wish I could buy my virginity back and live life the right way, true monogamy.

Healthcare costs are indeed bloated as fuck, you can fly to Norway, which is several times wealthier and overally more expensive than America and get significantly cheaper treatment than here. And I'm not even talking about poorer countries, a scorpion venom antidote in Mexico costs around 100 bucks while in the US they will charge you up to 80k (you read that right), for the same drug. It's absolutely absurd.

The private vs single payer dilemma is not even the real issue, the real issue are the fucking costs regardless of who ends up paying for it.

Mate I'm not saying that cause it's you, I'm saying that cause it is LA. Everyone I've ever known there has been like that. I've had old gfs that went out to 'lib da draem' in HW/CA and then later tell me how they got railed by 2 famous band members or some shit.

The place is a den of degeneracy. And that's not even mentioning the drugs around.

From hardworking people obviously, kikes aren't going to forfeit their shekels.

Actually I've had better oranges in AZ than CA or FL.

Probably california genetics then. I've got a 6 ft. high 25 year old naval orange dwarf tree, 6ft tall, that produces fruit that will knock your socks off.

The fact you even brag about this shit baffles me, do you realize what board you're on? This isn't Kikebook where people will applaud you for your degeneracy and vanity.

Protip: I live in a state directly east of yours and it's significantly better here. In fact our main problem are those 80 IQ tattooed spics in Dodger hats you keep sending over here. EVERYONE in the western US from Arizona to Idaho knows what a total shithole California is since we've all been there at some point, you literally need to be quarantined and killed off.

Actually more like 4ft tall, its comically short. All the growth energy flows into the fruit.

Still, the area in AZ it was grown in was pretty unique. Giant orchard and fruits out in the middle of the desert kind of.

That wasn't bragging, read the post being responded to. I write software in california, i can afford it anyways. That's bragging.

Sounds very similar to the san diego eastern valleys i'm referring to. Not too far away, probably is same or similar. Would love to try it. Don't let the jews find out, they'll send the mexican in to pick them and ship them all to japan.

I wrote that post you illiterate baboon.

Then you just got filtered, troll bitch.

Fuck off where you came from you cuckolded reddit faggot.

This is part of the reason why you guys have a reputation.

Besides infecting a whole bunch of other Western states with LA/San Francisco tier libtard garbage agendas.

And this is why flyover state hicks are accused of idiocy, because you can't follow a simple thread of conversation.
Obviously trolling me. Filterable.

oh no what are we gonna do without interracial prolapse porn and some fruit?? We still have the entire midwest for grains, Texas for cattle, and the south east for fruit. We'll be just fine if commiefornia sunk into the ocean right now. We also have mad natural gas and oil in Texas and the upper midwest. commiefornia is a cancer. if only we could put all the niggers and jews in that state and nuke it.

It really infuriates me that the left basically has a hegemony over California politics. This is a beautiful state, it really is. You haven't lived until you've seen the lush wilderness of the Sierra Nevada mountain range in the spring. In between fits of rain you have gorgeous weather and green as far as the eye can see. The wildlife is so abundant it's not an uncommon sight to run into a deer ans squirrels in the fucking suburbs.

Why do liberals have to destroy everything beautiful?

To build more coffee shops user.

I have the Rockies though, and other ranges. And at least I can own a firearm here and hunt that deer or elk if I see him.

Envy. You can actually see a lot of it in this very thread. Probably the socialists of the movement who could never cut it in california.

dailywire.com/news/16850/study-weak-men-more-likely-be-socialists-amanda-prestigiacomo

Well, to a degree that's what happened in the 60s, 70s and 80s, all the kikes in the entertainment industry who thought the east coast was too small for them, all the hippies and degenerate pot smokers, all the trannies and faggots, all the commies and crypto-communists who held rallies in support of organic avocado growers in El Salvador, all of those moved there. California became a de facto designated containment zone for racial and moral sewage. And all of that is fine, the problem arose when they predictably turned Cali into a 3rd world cesspit and now they're all moving out and polluting the rest of the west with their faggotry, trying to turn everything west of the Mississippi into another California.

fucking leftists have ruined my state
they've changed the demographics so much that it will never be able to flip from the current politics
its infuriating for people like me, who grew up here and love California for its beautiful geography but hate it for its unending flow of spics and braindead marxists
the only places that have retained any sensible identity are all north of Sacramento, where the state is majority wilderness
everything south of that needs to be cleansed

yeah thats true. they spread out an ruin everything they touch with their actual faggotry and shitty politics. we need to create an environment so inhospitable to them that they cant infect it.

The fuck, nigger?

Not without precedent, see eskimos.

But not going to let my parents and grandparents die just to raise some entitled or third world trash. Cuck

Besides, the super rich won't be making the sacrifice, and they're the ones who caused the mess in the first place

We need to make healthcare coverage available only to white people. I reckon way less shitskins, legal or illegal, would move to America if they understood nobody will pay for their gastric bypasses, diabetes and drug addiction therapy.

A certain group within the Judicial system would never allow such a thing.

Then we need to kick them the fuck out of the judicial system.

Leftists didn't ruin it man, Jews did.

That's what happens when you let your state get colonized by the heebs. Just like with JYC - a hub of Jewish multiculturalists is a poison pill. LA - all of SoCal really - is theirs, and they've brought in their violent brown pets to provide the votes to ensure they're never driven out.

just left Tacoma, could not afford the rent. Also had a tough time finding a job, so fucking hard now.

Yeah, let me pull 100k out of my asshole to buy land.

I agree to an extent. I live in walking distance of my job, and I'd rather have a tiny apartment here than a mansion out an hour commute into the burbs. But at some point you just cannot justify paying a million dollars for a falling apart shitshack that isn't even downtown.

I'll be the first to say insurance is a massive middle man parasite on the system. But the fact is that we spend tons of resources on lost causes and ignore people who need and deserve it and can actually get use out of medical care.

Gas (((insurance))) and gas big pharma. Medical care and college are the same shit. Once govt started stepping in and paying the cost, the cost exploded and now no one can afford it. Government intervention ruins everything. This is absurd and NO ONE has proposed the real way to fix it – GAS THE INSURANCE KIKES.

California shoreline is gorgeous. But no way in god damned fucking hell am I paying 3k a month rent on a roach infested shack in the ghetto and dealing with shitlibs and that traffic just to live there. They're doing the same shit in Denver, too. Rent is ridiculous, traffic is atrocious, and they commodified the nature. These cunts don't even appreciate it, either, it's just an instagram shoot for them.

DIE LIBERAL SCUM

Yes it is, and do you know why that is? Insurance companies and the FDA. Let's say the manufacturer was hoping to get $1000 for that dose, so they mark it up for "hospital retail at $2500 MSRP. The hospital bills it to the insurance company and the company says, "fuck you, we'll pay $1500 and not a cent more". However, if the hospital had charged $1250 the insurance company would only pay $1250. Also the insurance company contract with the hospital demands "fairness", so no one else (individual or company) can be charged *less* than the insurance company is charged.

What happens? The drug company and the hospital jack prices up to ludicrous levels to avoid leaving any money on the table. It's all a fantasy bill because insurance companies just tell the hospital to fuck off and then pay whatever they want — except if you are a self-pay patient. Then you are stuck paying the fantasy price ($80k per dose or whatever) because you can't tell the hospital to fuck off like the insurance company can. And the hospital is prohibited from giving you a break because the contract with the insurance companies demands they can't charge you less than the hospital charges the insurance company.

"It's a catch-22, goyim! We've got you either way!"
…not if we reject their basic premise.

The FDA deserves a shout out too, because the average cost to bring a new drug to market is now over $1 billion due to regulatory bullshit.

just deficit spend, goy, it's not like it's our money.

Fuck this state. It can't get bombed soon enough. At least I have a way out via a job move to South Carolina.

and here I thought 1 acre 2 bed 1 bath

So they will pay 225% of income now?

in Commiefornia debt pays you

This is why people fucking hate Commiefornians, you are the a population that sinks the greatness of the entire West Coast. All Commiefornians have to go back, okay maybe some Jeffersonians can stay.
-t. Washingtonian who is sick of you people coming up to my state and making it worse for everybody

I'm the commiefornian in question. My VPN cycled, pardon the new ID.

I've traveled all over the USA. I used to think Louisiana was the worst shithole, until I had to travel for a software gig on the Hanford Site in your neck of the woods. It is singularly the most depressing, boring, shitkicking shithole of a hicktown I've ever seen. I literally wandered the town at night at pure amazement just so I wouldn't forget how lucky I am to live in California. Eat sour grapes, faggot.

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When the dotr comes they'll never get another drop of water from another state again.

Looking at that image, North Dakota sounds like a paradise.
(((Wikipedia))) says they have a pretty large food processing industry which works pretty well for me as I have some experience with PLC controls.

Can any ND anons attest to whether that's a place worth moving to from Commiefornia?

If everything is so much better in California then why is every Californian moving to Florida in droves, user?

god bless California now all the rabbits from other states will move there looking for the gibs

That's how I know it's bullshit. California is HUGE with 3 distinct regions constantly trying to form their own states. Then there's the massive political and demographic divisions between metropolitan areas and outlying counties, which make up most of the state. Any analysis painting the entire state as uniform is bullshit propaganda shoveled by shitkicking flyover faggots feasting on sour grapes.

We were able to buy a couple of acres for less than 13k, its almost like the housing/property market changes from state to state.

California is not a good place to live if you want to buy a home. It's a place you live for a few years while you're working a contract, or if you do settle here, because you have roots from a previous generation. The influx and outflux of people trying/failing in California is immense. People who bought homes here 30 years ago are paying $500/mo house payments on a 3 bdrm on home which today costs 4 times as much. Root, roots, roots. As I said earlier, there is an uppercrust white class which welcomes this as a way to keep their exclusive plot of land. And California, despite the shitholes, has many pockets of paradise. I literally couldn't live anywhere else, I can wear a t-shirt everyday of the year in San Diego. I'm also a very high earner. My high school friends with double-digit IQs moved to New Hampshire, Texas, and Arizona. Can't speak for the rest.

You can see the distinctions in any of the maps which take regions into account. that doesn't mean the ones that don't are bullshit. I'm in one of the good parts of Cali and the infection is even spreading up here.

And don't forget who it is that determines the political structure here. Unless state of Jefferson becomes a thing, this state IS shit. The land is beautiful, the people in some areas are great, but the state is garbage.

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You could live your entire life in East San Diego county and never meet a spic or a nigger. Yet the map doesn't reflect that. It paints with brush whose resolution is scoped to provide exactly the intended information. That's how propaganda works. Please, save it for the normalfags.

which software is that screenshot from?

Culd you find me versions of these maps that differentiate by county?
If it was made to be misleading why wouldn't they have a state map for Hispanic population? What about air quality?

Look, I know you're not happy to hear that our state, as a whole, is garbage. But it is. If you're hay in the part you have found yourself in, that's great. You can find good parts of any state. But when we're discussing the state as a whole, you have to accept that it's shit.

fuck.
could* you find
If you're happy* in the part you have found yourself in

On the one hand, I want all their taxes fucking raised there…on the other hand, they come to Austin and carry their cancer with them. Fucking "big One" they've been promising up like the 1903 earthquake is way, way overdue now.

Keep digging that hole you literal fucking beaner.

Sour grapes over what? Your high taxes, your pollution, your beaners, your niggers, your kikes, your liberals, your noguns, your low IQs, tranny bathrooms, your dog food tier burger chains, pollution, deficit spending, your bolshevik level zoning laws and subsequent outrageous real estate prices, your expensive gas, your shitty roads, your poverty, your Fallout-tier environmental catastrophes like the Salton Sea and Santa Susana, your homo parades, your tax dollars subsidizing Paco's gibsmedats, your sanctuary cities, your staggering rate of high school dropouts, WHAT is it exactly that we're supposed to be "jealous" of?

There are fucking beautiful areas of Louisiana if you have the shekels. Same with Mississippi, even Arkansas.

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Good, don't ever come back. We would rather be a fucking hick area then to become a mini Mexico any day of the week. I cannot wait until we cut you off from all the water you keep stealing from every surrounding state because you faggots cannot into water conservation even though you've pretty much become a fucking desert. Now secede already so we can build a fucking wall around your state so you can all fucking die.

America would be a far better off nation without your shitty desert state that is infecting all the surrounding ==EVERY== other state in this Nation

I'm only good at farming cannabis and hate the Liberal shithole that is California. Don't know where to go…

There are rabid niggers in front of EVERY liquor store harassing people for change. They regularly get aggressive because of the gun laws.

I walked into my local Bank of America in Sac and saw that 70% of the wall ads were written in Chinese.

Billboards are written in Spanish for accident lawyers.

Fags are allowed to walk around naked in public as long as they sit on a towel when seated.

pic related, I see these all over the place every day. All I want is for someone to go out and spraypaint a huge jew star over these damn things.

In reality though, a LOT of the white population around here is alarmingly aware of the JQ. I've been hearing conversations at bars and banter at community events. This degeneracy has catalyzed an awareness…

I hope Kek doesn't forsake me. Times are tough out here…

Another legal state. MI is doing nicely.

That state has REALLY strict laws regarding cultivation that are enforced harder than most states. They're one of the few places that can take ALL of your assets whether they are related to the grow or not.

Super risky…but nogs hate snow so it does kind of balance itself out.

Exactly. CIDF LARPs that there are three states just waiting to break free. However, the Democratic supermajority rules your state government and creates all the laws, policies, regulations, and taxes. This sets a very high minimum shittiness level withinn California's borders, even if you manage to live in some sort of white nationalist compound someplace and never have to see one of those trans pedo-positive furry beaner gay married couples that symbolize your state to the rest of the world.

What? News to me. Know quite a few people doing fine with their 75 plant cards.

CO clamped down, most counties have a 12 count limit. OR and WA are only like 4 plants per person or some retarded shit.

I'm down in Kern. Things have already gone mad.

Hell's Angels, Crips, Bloods, spics, everyone else is getting ready for a fucking gang war. We have so much gun store business that another opened up. The jewelers have stopped selling potassium cyanide and the pharmacies have stopped selling lidocaine because of the murder rate going both ways. It's honestly just the military bases that are keeping the peace at this point.

The liberals are pushing people out of their homes left and right. I'm in Lakewood right now and we're getting influxes of homeless people taking over corners all over the place.

The apartments I used to live at in Burien (right next to Sea-Tac) recently went up to $1400 a month from $800 even though they're barely above ghetto status.

I fucking hate Democrats and their city wrecking ways.

I'm going to bet that when it all falls to shit they go full 'muh white flight' retard.

What the actual fuck

Tbh, I grew up in a small town in Commiefornia where very little of anything "California" actually applies. Mostly white, low cost of living despite basically being owned by a monopoly which owns the grocery store, gas station, and about 1/3 of the real estate, and sheriffs that leave you alone as long as you're white (they will go out of their way to fuck with spics and injuns though, I shit you not).
Average apartment in this county as a whole is about $1600 a month. however, $1200/mo will get you a three story house with a huge property up in this town.

Doesn't change the fact that this state is shit.

this. i want to leave, but family, business, etc so kind of stuck. just waiting for the RaHoWa to begin.

checked.

this literally already happens though. visit an emergency room sometime

lol she probably thinks you're so cute. guaranteed theres only one monogamist in that relationship

chemo doesn't cost 250k, that's called paying for your doctors second beach house
t. canadian with free healthcare

You don't know what you're missing goy. Arugula salads, Korean taco trucks and trendy coked out whores swilling down $50 cocktails.

Lol, it's almost as if there being pushed off the continent. Soon.

SMUG

Whatever you say, Pakistan. Enjoy the tariffs.

Right and wrong. I cheated on her and dumped her the next day. I'm sure she probably cheated on me first though.

WINNING AT SERIAL MONOGAMY
kill me now

I live in Washington State you illiterate moron, economically I would be Belgium going by that picture. Leave it to a Commiefornian to not know the difference between Oregon and Washington State.

WOW big difference.
How many pounds of chocolate do you think we'll trade for a computer, Belgium?

also
California is a dying state, enjoy burning in another state wide wild fire while I'll be enjoying my rainforests, nice mountains, and actually owning guns.

The Cali libs are heading to Seattle for the hopes of tech jobs and no income tax but they're also competing with the wealthy Chinese who are buying up every piece of property they can get their hands on. King County is fucked!

It's a sad truth, everybody here hates all the Chinese coming here. Pretty much everybody outside of Seattle hates all these foreigners coming into this state and shitting it up for everybody else.

One shade of blue is 20,000 you fucking troglodyte.

GDP by PPP or nominal???

Tell me about it. They are driving up the fucking housing prices to insane amounts. I just purchased a home here and I still paid slightly over appraisal after talking the seller down several thousand dollars, and my home is still expected to increase in value. Some of these fuckers just stand around with CASH and buy $200k homes. I actually lost an offer on one because of that. What the flying FUCK.

Don't feel bad, I've never met a woman who hasn't had close to 10 or more sexual partners here in LA. It's sad. Even right leaning women here are sluts and will never be happy except what they perceive as happiness riding the cock carousel.

Yeah, I bailed three years ago. I realized I can do my profession, payroll specialist, any where in the country so I jumped ship. Moved to Minnisota, the winters are hardcore but this state is just as beautiful, if not more, than Washington. Minus those lovely Somalis Obama gifted the state.

By the way, hows that billion dollar hole they're digging going?

Your tech output is several orders of magnitude lower than Cali, you have no talented engineers, you're kept afloat by a cold-war era nuclear site that happens to have an observatory which gets federal NSA grants. Wow, I'm quite impressed, relocating ASAP!

I guess I'd be an anime fag too if I had no mountains to hike, no women to meet, nothing to do except chase the radioactive tumbleweeds helpfully spray painted orange so you can differentiate them from the normal shitkicker variety.

Still digging from what I can remember. Always got some problems going on with it, but that's due to what Seattle is built upon more than anything else, one big earthquake and a lot of shit is going to sink underground. I'm thankful as fuck I don't live in Seattle, unfortunately I live about 20minutes out from there though.

Also I wouldn't want you in my state, you need to sink into the sea with the rest of your Mexican kin

Both OR and WA are full of mountains, Califgts are delusional.

CO possess the average highest collection of peaks in the states.

You do have mountains, that's right. At least you can an hero with a scenic view when the boredom finally goes terminal.

Fucking hell little-Mexican I didn't think you could get more delusional, not everybody loves endless city slums like your kind does.

I was a Bothell man myself, from what I hear it's getting fucked hard too. You could try and strike it out in Eastern WA, although i'm sure Spokane is fucked also.

And if you're 20 minutes out I sure as shit hope your not in Renton or Kent.

No I'm not thank god. I'm unlikely to move out of my home city, I'm going to try and help it, and my State so it doesn't become like California.

California is drying in the tech field pretty soon you'll move to Boston or Seattle or hell move here in Tampa

I simply don't understand why the handful of Californians I've personally met treat others in so-called flyover states as having a case of sour grapes for their state. Nothing about the state of California even remotely interests me. It's like the idea of living a simpler, more minimalistic life is so alien to them that they think we're simply jealous of their lifestyle. Don't people who want to live the good life in California simply just move there? I've moved across state lines a few times, and I willingly chose Arkansas, North Dakota, and Wisconsin. It's what I want in life. Not $85 lemonade.

Let's be honest, even the most anti-California people have to admit it would be a paradise if not for 90% of people populating it being some of the lowest forms of life out there. A variety of nice climates, scenery and architecture makes me hope it can be cleansed of the undesirables eventually.

However I do disagree with their delusions about everybody being jealous of them. It's a very humorous trait that's been ingrained into them from their own Hollywood brainwashing.

Unless you're into hiking and shit California really doesn't have too much. Even then people shit all over the trails, assholes come out from the city and dump trash everywhere.

Granted I was on the trails outside LA over looking the City/Pacific and i'm sure if I go to North California it would be much nicer. But when I went there for a hiking trip a few years ago, I just remember that place as a giant trash can.

That state is in desperate need of a culling.

Calicuck IQ on display right here

I just reread this and realized that was the exact point you made, I am fucking drunk and apologize for wasting your time.

pls nuke san francisco and our useless politicians in Sacrapmento already

I also want to feel again to go outside eat wendy's one day with my fellow pol burgers.

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Remember this?

Allow me to explain.

This user has never felt the warmth of a vagina, or even been on a date. Zero chance of procreation.

This user has issues with his weight and self-image, and fear of competing with superiors drives him towards socialism.

This user has never, will never court a cali blonde, has never, will never be able to comfortably wear jeans and a t-shirt 365 days per year. user is a "flyover faggot".

I live in cali. Sometimes grapes really are sour.

Sorry to hear that you haven't made the best of it, commrade. Good luck.

Oh look, it's a woman. That explains it.

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You could probably find more blondes in Tanzania than in California at this rate.

Oh bullshit, there is absolutely no justification for houses being this expensive here. LA (suburbia) is nice, but it's not worth that much.

Treat every californian you meet like shit and make it clear they're not welcome, get everyone you know that isn't from california to do the same.

This nigger, this asshole right here is the embodiment of why California sucks.

Tell that to my sister. They'll let you rollover credit card balances at least until you reach half a year's income on them.

Takes a lot of cuckbux to keep the commiefornia boat afloat.

You should get a permaban just on the grounds of being a faggot and representing everything we hate about whites in our society

Waving around "muh engineers!" as a selling point tells me you're not one. If you're an engineer, good luck finding a fucking job. The market's saturated because they spit out so many grads from the UC system and businesses are shuttering left and right because of taxes, regulations, and minimum wage laws. Most of the companies that put out feelers are defense contractors that get dirty MIC money. When you're finally hired, you have to deal with property values and cost of living so high that you barely make any money after expenses.

I will never understand this. You could go nearly anywhere in the country and be connected to the Internet, but for some reason they force you to go to fucking Silicon Valley to get hired. You could work remotely with one of the myriad tools that allows groups to work together from around the globe seamlessly, but no, you have to sit in a tiny office around your bearded nu-male comrades so they can tell you face to face, breath stinking of Soylent, about the latest Big Bazooper Theory episode instead of doing their fucking job.

The companies pay fortunes in rent to establish offices, have to pay their workers small fortunes so they can afford to live in the area, and deal with a city up to its necks in cucks and human excrement. "But you can walk to work!" says the real estate agent, hands wringing and hook nose wiggling in excitement, withholding the fact that you'll have to step over the homeless and risk getting mugged by beaners five days a week. You live in constant fear that someone with a telescope is watching you type M-A-G-A on your keyboard, phone ready to dial your employer for hate crimes. And then you get laid off so the software company you work for can use your salary to bring over 3 Pajeets who can shit out Java faster than they can shit out curry into the middle of the street.

This state is a ticking time bomb, one tech bubble or earthquake away from complete collapse. But keep living your degenerate "California lifestyle" while it lasts. Send some athiest prayers to your local black science man that the tsunami will take you first, and spare you the repeated assfucking the muds will give you when they can't find a McDonalds to pay them $15 an hour to flip a burger.

-t. native Commiefornian

Not only have I penetrated California as a nouveau riche white man with gorgeous green eyes, massive red beard, I preach against jews to everyone I know, forcing them to listen to George Lincoln Rockwell speeches, and soaking aryan pussy with my 135 IQ seed.

I attended one of the best universities in the country for Computer Science, I've worked for several successful startups in San Diego, and I'm currently launching my own startup as CTO. I just charged my last client $100/hr to refactor some shitty code that he hired a pajeet to write. Life is fucking tits for me. You're lower class, hope Texas or Arizona treat you better, future flyover faggot.

I forgot to mention, the client I charged $100/hr to. That's an out-of-state client and I telecommuted FROM California.

You will NEVER telecommute into a Cali startup, are you fucking daft?

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how about you try refuting 's other arguments too

Let me guess, you also bench 400 and do triple backflips into your Ferrari? This is just embarrassing.

That's precisely my point. Every braindead retard in San Fagcisco thinks you have to move there to start a business in a medium where you can communicate across the fucking planet within less than a second. People are happy to swallow the mythical "California lifestyle" meme and move to the worst shithole on the west coast so they can begin life as an atomized bugman.

Is your name John by any chance?

Doctors don't see any of that money, it is because medical supply corporations and pharmakikes monopolize everything, and insurance and state subsidies for healthcare means that they can milk that monopoly for even more than they would otherwise. Drugs cost literally 20x-50x more than they would with a competitive market with no barriers of entry. Last time I had to stay in the hospital even the fucking piss jugs they use for patients who can't walk to the bathroom had a patent pending and trademark symbol on it, I shit you not, some kike is actually trying to patent a fucking piss jug to sell them at $50 a pop or something obscene like that. Get rid of monopolies/cronyism and 90 percent of what is wrong US healthcare solves itself.

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Nothing of substance to refute aside from pajeets writing Java, which is kinda true, but always results in a white man being called in to save the day. At least, if the client can afford it. Thought to be fair, there are some elite pajeets who could even code me under the table. They are technically aryans, and they are the only immigrants who can speak grammatically correct English.

Look buddy, I've done many years of telecommute and I've done startups where they have the big longs tables of computer desks to mimick a university pc lab. Telecommute works best for lone wolf contract jobs, big dollars, no bennies. Capicé? You can't graft with the culture of a startup, you can't go out for microbrews on fridays, you can't be tapped on the shoulder for quick questions, it's not good for photo ops, and you WILL be the odd man out in every bullshit office politic, when you telecommute. You would know this if you weren't hyopethetically spitballing about shit you've never done.

You can get four-four bedroom houses in Detroit with $196,000

Why the fuck are you here and not on kikebook then? Go away normie.

Guess how I know you're a spic.

I hope it causes them to neglect their water infrastructure more. If the southwest goes dry it becomes completely incapable of supporting a tenth of the humans living there right now. It would be a real opportunity for the race war to start.

It should suprise you, the actual reach of Holla Forums. It contains all walks of life.

Why do people do this — brag on the internet about income? It always ends up appearing like a pathetic attempt to justify something and someone is always going to be able to top you, regardless. For example, I was billing substantially more than that per hour for multi-year long, full time projects a decade ago, user, and I lived in the flyover country that califags sneer about. just keep flying over

Of course, while this is true, what does me saying this prove… especially in the context of an internet debate? We're not going to publish our 1040's here, and besides, I have no doubt there are anons here who are making millions (if not a billionaire or two from time to time) who just smirked while reading both our posts.

Picking up a cali blonde is as easy as getting a fucking gram of coke.

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user a lot of us make more than he ever will because he will be spending 2 grand a month in rent on a 1400sqft house or end up buying it for 1 million.

The high school dropout cleaning your drains charge 100$ an hour too. Difference is he can work anywhere and charge that kind of money and his schooling paid for itself in 6 months.

also the plumber will never have to deal with a mistake made by a pajeet

Man, I can't even fathom how people live like that.

More like $80/hour, and covered in shit, and drinking himself under the table because his fiance is just not sure she wants to marry a plumber.

Definitely not sitting at his kitchen table in pajamas, comfy as fuck, sipping cocoa and watching The Sopranos while shooing my adorable cat off the table. Meanwhile, the 100/hr is just a side job, and an "hour" is whatever I say it is. These aren't even comparable, and I hope you self-actualize beyond digging rotten shit out of drains, user.

Not a plumber, electrician. Even better, show up and change a light bulb or flip a breaker.

Oh, he'll have to deal with a mistake all right. The mistake that comes after the curry goes through its second cycle of pajeet ingestion.

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Califag can confirm. You fags would be shocked how many in Cali are /ourguys/, even a decent chunk of azns and higher end brown people are redpilled. This is part of the reason why Holla Forums pwnt Antifa so hard in Berkeley a few weeks back and removed communist with extreme prejudice, right where you think they would be the most powerful. It's because the law of unintended consequences has created an actual Darwinian event in which those who dare to be conservative behind enemy lines are a breed of ultra tough, smart, prepared, networked group with extreme solidarity. In other words, environmental pressure has made them so only the truly strong survive, compared with every other daffodil and snowflake running around fully drinking the kool-aid to alarming levels.

I dunno about that, maybe in San Fran and a few other major metros, most places that still wouldn't fly unless it was in some designated containment zone. You do absolutely see utter fucking degeneracy though. IE faggot tranny prostitutes walking the streets in S&M theme shit with their ass cheeks hanging out in fucking CVS in front of peoples' kids and families and little old ladies and shit. It's truly appalling. I used to be much more libertarian and felt everyone ought to basically be able to do whatever they want as long as it doesn't physically hurt someone else, but now I realize how allowing wanton, unchecked degeneracy can corrupt and destroy people and societies.

capped. good post

It's still a "name tag job", two notches above chattel slavery imho.

Carpentanon here. Most electrition labor is billed to the union at $200 an hour/sparky needed (where i live), and it sucks because of state legislation requiring multiple union only certificates for electrical standards. Side jobs, sparkys and shit stealers make more. Actual bids however, carpenters make more. My partner and I just did a double decker deck with a screened in lower porch, rainguard, and a porch for 75k usd (I bid high because the homeowner was a litteral fucking jew) and made a 30k proffit. Suck a dick if you think carpenters aren't king.

Man I love reading California horror stories

www youtube.com/watch?v=2_2lGkEU4Xs

Carpenters do make bank, when they're not laid off constantly.

Son, you understand those sorts are why first world conditions are a thing. Without them I can guarantee you'd either electrocute, flood your home with sewage or have the entire thing come collapsing down on you. Tradesmen aren't the sort you shit on because they've got the know how to make your life hell.

You know, I used to feel the same. Then I talked to an old timer (dude was 85 10 years ago). He said the way to stay employed was to love your craft. That's what making money in skilled trades is all about. I work 7 days a week, 8-12 hours a day because I absolutely LOVE what I do.

Don't expect a califgt to understand infrastructure and utility necessity.

And this is true as fuck. You will not be happy doing any job unless you're doing something you love.

If I don't have a bid, I go to the store and get some wood. I make tables, chairs, ros'ettes (I bought a 3d printer for this) statues. asside from my fucking computer, refrigerator, and bare minimum first world basics, there is nothing electric in my home. But I have a major workshop setup in my pole barn.

To put this into perspective, my home is under 1000 sqft, while my workshop/garage is over 15,000.

Sage for blogpost, but don't shit on the skilled trades if you aren't one, because you couldn't even fathom the intel. of the actual skilled among them.

(you)

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You use the money cheat

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Wasn't that an episode of South Park? Also,

Oh I understand perfectly fine, I pay my nametag spics good money to get their fingernails dirty.

This is why you commies always lose. Free the proletariat! But not those filthy people who don't have university degrees.

i grew up in boise, some of the best years of my life, and you have no idea how depressed i am to hear you say that
every time i read about "syrian" rapefugees flooding into the area it kills me
if there's such a thing as fate, it's a bittersweet feeling knowing i escaped before having to watch it destroyed in person and live in the hell that it became

lurk moar

They just want their somewhat complacent spics to do everything, jokes on them when everything becomes mexico tier.

That tile pattern fetish guy would nut so hard

nuke it
t. commiefornian

Kill yourself.

Friendly reminder that you'll NEVER, EVER be able to legally carry a handgun for the purposes of self defense while living in one of the absolute most violent, crime infested, nigger and beaner infested cities in the country.

Enjoy being totally dependant on the government for your protection, we've seen how good the LAPD are at that and how well that usually goes in times of societal unrest.

Also have fun needing a fucking license to buy ammo for no fucking reason.

Is this something to be proud of? Boys, I think we have a defective subhuman here.

Actually, Kikeberg and Shlomo using government subsidies (taxes from "fly over" states) pay for their inflated wages and made up industries.
I can't wait until the charade is up. Most beautiful people? Let's see when niggers are coming for their gibs. Spics too.

>>>/leddit/

KEK

This piece of shit state was #1 for education in the entire world when my dad was a kid, you know.

We don't care how many fags you guys produce.

Let them rot

Let them do it. Either they triple taxes or try to fuck the companies that make commiefornia survive, either way the state is fucked.

Housing in PA is still too expensive for my taste. I want to buy some acres of land and build myself a decent home but that'll run me over a quarter million.