So did I just waste my money? I just got done installing my 240 GB SDD

So did I just waste my money? I just got done installing my 240 GB SDD

Yes I know:


But he seems adamant in what he's saying. Do I believe him?

SSDs do cut down on your load times, but it's not going to turn your machine into a speed demon or anything.

Well it's time to return it then

Its pretty good for example heavily modded games, because load times can be brutal otherwise

An SSD will remove the HDD bottleneck. If the rest of your system is shit, don't expect miracles.

It does wonders for games with shitty load times like Akiba's Trip and GTA V even if your system is shit though. Same goes for the OS, I went from an 80GB IDE Drive that took 5 min to boot to flat 20 seconds.

here's my current specs as of this install

It'll improve loading times, especially the M.2 drives, but the disk is usually idle during gameplay.

I can't imagine dealing with the shittyness and unreliability of a HD for general computer use in current year though so it shouldn't even be something to worry about.

It's fast, they did good work

Looks good. Install games with known shitty load times and you're golden.

By the way: When i ran GTAV on my WD Caviar Green it ran like fucking ass. Long load times and stutters. removed the WD head parking, no stutter but long load times. Swapped to SSD, load times were cut by 1/2 or more. It's a good investment for sure.

the access times are much faster on SSD, games that load a lot of texture data from the hard drive constantly into memory will run better.

Not all games are constantly pulling data from the HDD but most are. So the benefits of having an SSD are obvious performance increases in most games but not all.

I can't tell what the point of this thread is.

regular HDDs are only good for huge storage, and you can shove them in the external case and turn them on them whenever you need them

having a SSD is a no brainer nowadays

SSDs are a quality of life thing. Imagine every loading screen you ever see being reduced by 90% or better. How much time does that save you over a week, month, or year? It also improves general responsiveness of the OS if it's your boot disk, and they've gotten pretty cheap. There's pretty much no reasons left not to use one.

This. I switched to an SSD and I never want to go back to HDD for the OS.
Same goes for 120Hz vs 60Hz.

I don't think they're even good for that anymore. The cost of a reliable 1tb via HD and SSD over 5 years is about the same going by our HD replacement rate at work. We're getting rid of them all.

I'm still mustering up the energy to migrate my OS as I dont feel like it right now.

Until then, if I just play my games from my SDD will they be way faster?

SSD are good for loading OS at boot, got win7 down to 7 seconds.

For games it's true as long as you got a 7200rpm quality HDD solely used for gaming then it is about equal to an SSD.

They should reduce your load times by a significative amount.

Yeah bro, your games will run at like 88 miles per hour.

Loading times will be noticeably better but it won't affect FPS.

That is not true a HDD has much higher access times compared to SSD. Even a 10000RPM HDD is inferior.

That is also not true, some games load new textures and areas progressively into RAM as you move through the world. Typically bethesda games. Having a SSD greatly reduces the time it takes for this data to be loaded meaning you get smoother frame rates and less drop in.

if you ever crashed into an invisible tree while flying a plane in a GTA game and it loaded in after your fiery wreckage, well a SSD could have prevented that.

Some games but not all, besides the loading behavior in Skyrim is also affected by ini settings. An unmodded Skyrim shouldn't chug too much on todays hardware.

The newest SSDs using NVMe are disgustingly fast and would be many times faster than even an infinitely fast HD as they aren't throttled by SATA.

This is still pretty slow

What do you mean throttled by SATA?
SATA 3 is like 6GB/s data rate and I don't think it affects access times does it?

Shorter load times, less pop-ins and potentially a few extra FPS.

It should be a nice and somewhat noticeable improvement, but nothing life changing.

Best to do with the OS since that'll affect anything your computer is doing.

Nah. Quality HDD

By most games I meant pretty much every modern game with loading screens. There are a few like dwarf fortress which would get no benefit from access times because it doesn't pull much data from the hard drive except when generating a new world. Even then its much harder on CPU and can't use multithreading.

A lot of games constantly autosave so it cuts down on that waiting a lot. I'd say for the price SSDs are worth getting now. Before they were a little too expensive for poor fags. There is no reason you can't have both. Install your games to SSD and keep a old HDD for movies/music/gay interracial cuck pornography.

SSDs are faster and files load faster but not but as much as people claim. MOST games won't benefit.

SSDs are great and all but the cost and reliability and limited storage make them unappealing to me at the moment so I never saw the need to buy one for myself. I don't consider them necessary or even useful to a new computer, but they are okay if you already have one.

You would be surprised how a little hardware change like that can make a massive difference. I recently upgraded to a proper studio headset after using cheap trash headsets. It blew me away how much better everything sounded. It wasn't even an expensive one but it well worth the extra shekels.

Guy is an idiot. SSD aren't even saturating 3GB/s SATA connections let alone 6GB/s

They are mainly useful for installing your OS on, it makes your whole computer more responsive. Games don't really use the disk drive after loading to RAM, so the most it'll do is reduce loading times.

Look up benchmarks of the 950 pro/evo or sm961. The reason they're obscenely fast compared to other SSDs like the 850 is they're not using SATA anymore and don't get bottlenecked provided they don't melt through the case.

Ok well even if SATA is bottle-necking SSDs it's not slowing down hard drives and the performance gains are real.

You got the units wrong. It's 6 gigabits per second, or 750 megabytes per second, but encoding overhead limts the throughput to 600 megabytes per second, which SSDs eclipsed like five years ago.

I didn't know about the bottlenecking, good to find out that SSDs are getting even faster soon. My next rig won't be using SATA then.


Yeah sorry, HDD probably don't eclipse that 600 megabytes per second tho.

Here is a comparison of disk i got on my PC. You decide.

Just because the game is on an SSD means jack shit if your OS is on a slower drive.

Untrue, they're faster than most light use users know. Running a git grep over a Linux source tree is orders of magnitude faster on SSD. Filesystem searches are similarly speedy. Databases likely benefit the most and are outrageously faster.
1TB/$300 is pretty big and affordable and reliability is way higher than a HD. I've got an 8 year old X-25M at work that has been slaving away in a compile farm all that time that drive reporting claims still has 90% of its life expectancy left. I can't imagine a gamer's low use even having gotten that to 98%.

try random read/write

Get a low capacity ssd for your os and get a big hdd for everything else.

Here. Haven't benchmark in a while and didn't notice it was set on it.

HDDs are better for games that have compressed assets or storing lots of porn
HDDs can handle more read/writes than an SSD, and it's nothing to load compressed game assets despite the limited I/O speed

SSDs are good for shit like ARMA3 because the game has retarded huge maps and fuckall compression, so load times are drastically cut
the game itself will not perform better in any other area, it simply means that the system can read the game assets faster to load into memory, and if a game stutters because it has seamless loading between areas then the SSD will reduce or eliminate that stutter

A HD will go click-of-death long before a gamer hits SSD write death. It's hard to kill a SSD (assuming not destitute-tier NAND) even with heavy daily video editing before you'd replace it due to obsolescence, a few 50geebee vidya games downloaded every week is fucking nothing and you'd die of old age before it would.

affordable 250/500 GB M.2 NVMe SSDs when

is this real

Some SSDs are known to brick themselves after exactly three years use.

Just throwing that out there.

i wont be alive in three years

If you buy a USB stick with a SATA interface from a company whose engineering experience is whitelabeling RAM modules you deserve what you get.

it doesn't help games much, but it's worth it for the OS responsiveness and start up time alone, also applications/software on the SSD that aren't games.

kill yourself

Well consider me necrotic, because I've been using the same HDDs for 5+ years while my SSD had to be replaced within a 1.5 year span.

At worst case, you can always reinstall your os onto the ssd and use it as the primary boot drive

Did you check the amount written via SMART or vendor software and confirm that was the reason it failed? Who was the vendor, and what type of NAND?

Enjoy your HDD, nerd.

I couldn't do anything with the drive, it died so hard I couldn't even boot with the SSD plugged in.

Fuck off.

ramdisk will eventually replace HDD's. you'll only need a 20gb HDD for your OS.

So, when are SSDs going to be standard issue for computers and we won't have to deal with HDDs at all anymore?

Also, have another Nico for your folder.

Never.

Most games aren't bottlenecked by disk speed at load time, I tried a bunch of games on a ramdisk (6000+ MB/s read speed) and it often makes little difference, worst was Hatred where I gained about a second per loading screen sometimes, STALKER:ShoC goes from minute long load times to 20-30 seconds.

I believe things like modded Stalker, mount and blade with massive amount of AI in battle and the likes benefit from and SSD as long as your other parts hold up.

What the fuck is going on.