Alright, time for what I think will be the end of our Japanese campaign.
Last time we fought an exhausting war against America, which culminated in a second American Revolution and Japanese victory. It is now 1921 and Japan has never been more powerful. Our empire now holds the Philippines, Guam, Panama and the Aleutians. Modern Capital ships are slowly replacing our aging fleet and technology is advancing faster than we can adopt it into our designs.
For those of you unfamiliar with Rule the Waves, it is a somewhat autistic game about managing your nation's navy, designing ships, as well as commanding them into battle.
Great Britain doesn't want to be friends, Japan owns much clay, an overview of our losses and the design for the Kentucky class we took as reparations for the war.
Should we make any changes to the Kentucky class?
Henry Moore
Maybe increase the speed on the Kentucky class from 21 knots to 25? and increase torpedo defence, it's 1921 so I imagine a lot of future wars (I don't know how long this game lasts) will be utilising torpedoes so it couldn't hurt to attempt to future proof our larger ships so they can stay in service longer. Get more value for money out of them that way.
Ryder Long
only like 4 more years
Dylan Jones
Do we have the tech to add a third fire control position?
Tyler Morgan
We increase gun elevation, swap out the secondaries for more middling calibres, remove the torpedo tubes, add some ammo and slave the secondaries to the director.
Y/N?
Yes.
Oliver Murphy
We should add it if we have room to spare.
Tyler Fisher
Nippon steel is a state secret. Don't let the spics get shit.
John Mitchell
You might be asking yourself "Why does Japan give a fuck about the Balkans?" Well, why the fuck does Japan own Panama?
Decision?
Hunter Fisher
keep out of it
Camden Robinson
No need to get involved.
Xavier Cook
Don't risk it yet, so no
Ian Allen
Do we piss some off, or play it safe?
Austin Williams
Blame Italy if we get a boost in funding for it.
Colton Collins
Piss off the ruskies We already hold so much of their clay though, so up to you
Nathan Perez
By luck, we've gotten three events that raise tension is a row.
Things are looking…exciting.
Jose Jones
didn't France impound a ship we were building?
Lincoln Bailey
Okay, we've gotten a chance to diffuse tensions. Should we? It's worth mentioning that we've got a modern BC, what will likely become the pride of our fleet building in a French port.
Lucas Jenkins
How long until the ship is done building? We should hold off raising tensions until then.
Liam Williams
We should try to get that ship back. Then kill them later for impounding it.
Blake Diaz
Lower tensions. We need that ship.
Sebastian Russell
lower tensions
Logan Rogers
What the fuck are our politicians doing?
Choice?
Zachary Sullivan
avoid the war We can't risk tensions with France and UK going higher
Ian Parker
Does the second lower tensions? And do 'concessions' mean anything gameplay wise, other than us not getting jingo funding? Option 3, in any case.
Jaxson Gray
Oh Christ that was close. An Italian spy got caught, raising tensions with most of the Euros.
But here she is. Do we have a name in mind?
Luke Sullivan
How about Moeshit Victoria?
Alexander Gutierrez
The Manime
Nathan Kelly
Done.
Russia wants us to reduce our Navy.
Daniel Anderson
Tell them to fuck off
Juan Nelson
Russia isn't a major threat so there's no point.
Thomas Mitchell
ITS A RUSE DONT TRUST THE BREEKIS THEY ARE UP TO SOMETTHING CHEEKY
Christian Hernandez
Fug. Will option 1 raise tensions on anyone other than Russia? If not, that's a no brainer. Do arms conferences obligate us to deconstruct, or merely bring it up as an option for the various powers which we could hypocritically ignore or skimp on? If so, take that option. Otherwise, and if worldwide tensions will increase dangerously, agree to this petty naval spending proposal. We can probably afford it, but Russia is not going to have parity with us again.
Evan Morris
To my surprise Holla Forums seems to be handling foreign relations better than Hillary Clinton.
Camden Morris
Prime Minister want big boat.
Noah Evans
Build hotel yamato?
Brody Ward
enlist the help of the Navy League
Lucas Diaz
How bad will the financial loss be? If it's acceptably modest or moderate, then the Emperor will have his floating palace. Otherwise, get the Navy League to help us get this nonsense sorted while deflecting the heat from ourselves.
Elijah Hall
The cash loss was minor in comparison, and we gain prestige for agreeing.
Now then, as far as Germany goes?
Brayden Collins
Let it slide. We have no interest in a flareup, and there are fewer German colonies of any value in Southeast Asia than there are French and British ones anyways. Best to keep relations cool or better.
Connor Martin
We can afford the tension hit with Germany. I'd rather not lose prestige choosing the other option.
Charles Murphy
Clay?
Isaiah Smith
Holla Forums can run a country much better than Hitlery Cunton.
Samuel Collins
Sounds good. Send a force.
William Diaz
We need that Korean clay.
Christian Allen
grab clay
Noah Hill
Rightful japanese clay.
Leo Jackson
WE NEED CLAY THEY SAID
IT'LL BE GOOD THEY SAID
Jackson Martinez
Koreans should be honored to have strong Japanese men running their country and boinking their women.
Grayson Moore
...
Connor Robinson
Smash those cheese eating winos and take their clay.
William Martin
Try to not draw the British into this.
Ryan Wilson
...
Luke Wright
my left nut could run a country better than her
Henry Harris
oops
Logan Gutierrez
Convert submarines to prize rules, or if already at such, lower. We absolutely cannot afford yet another Lusitania style incident.
Nathaniel Barnes
Good point.
We need to minimize the chance of Britain getting into this, I'm confident we'll be able to muscle the French, but adding the Brits would mean doom for our foundling empire.
Nathan Bennett
Good thing we got our ship.
Colton Hall
ARE YOU READY TO UNLEASH THE FUCKING FURY?
Jaxson Reyes
DESTROY
Evan Richardson
BANZAI
Robert Lee
NIPPON RULE THE WAVES
John Murphy
LETS DO THIS
Dylan Gray
Bonjour
Ethan Sanchez
Admiral user, does the French blood flow yet?
John Ortiz
Are those submarines going to do anything?
Levi Bailey
What is with that guy's chin?
Joshua Ramirez
The only worrisome moment was when BB BB took a torpedo hit, but she walked it off.
You could say that.
I have absolutely no idea what submarines do in fleet combat.
Joshua Sullivan
FROGS BTFO
Parker Turner
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Connor Baker
Did we just sink nearly their entire Asian fleet at anchor? Holy fug. Look at those victory points. Look at those ship damage points. The last time we got in a spat with Russia, killing one of their BBs for about 40-60,000 or so was outstanding, and we've destroyed just about four times that. Is that enough to just eat their SEA holdings outright?
Camden Nguyen
Pretty much.
It's worth mentioning that the South Pacific is entirely undefended.
Brody Foster
Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere soon lads.
Josiah Cook
If we can afford to split off any unessential ships, then it'd be wise to see if we can stage some simultaneous landings while we're taking their main colonies, then. So long as we keep a very close eye on French movements so that they don't get caught. France's European fleet is still rather intimidating, though with that many ships I'm sure a fair few are obsolescent.
Liam Gray
Good god…
They still have quite a sizable force in Europe. Lets hope they're cautious as the Americans and only trickle them down to us.
Levi Hall
A small cruiser action leads to this.
Do we want to fight this one out, or take our leave? For reference, our CL has 3 7" guns as the main armament, while Loliship has 4 10".
Luis Bailey
I don't think we should be too brash, if we get our ships sunk in these little engagements we'll lose our overwhelming VP advantage… but if you're itching for a fight, go for it.
Chase Anderson
The question is whether we can reliably penetrate their armor or not, and whether we can keep their T crossed while keeping them out of range. If so, kite them with Loliship, keeping the light cruiser back entirely; too undergunned even for a relief action if Loliship gets in trouble, I'd think.
Gavin Edwards
While attempting to plink away at the CA with Loliship, she takes a hit to the rudder.
Levi Robinson
If you're winning, there's no reason to lose ships. That won't do you any good once the war is over.
Robert Ward
Oh, great, we're getting Bismarck'd. Screen the destroyer with our CL if it tries to rush, attempt to escape as soon as we can get our rudder repaired.
Wyatt Gonzalez
In the end, the French decide to pull back into port, and nothing really comes of the engagement.
But don't fret, because things get REAL interesting next turn.
Brody Long
That BC in the area is our newest one, right?
Carson Cooper
FUCKING YUROS DECLARING MERGING WARS
GET THEM OUT OF OUR ASIA
Benjamin Jones
Panic isn't the word.
Christopher Nelson
Well might as well blow your brains out now and safe the britbongs the trouble.
Hunter Robinson
fucking piggus
Cooper Gray
Well. Guess it's time to peace out France and hope that brings tensions down enough, right?
Nolan Young
3DPD takes out a CA and drunk Russian Captains get their ships impounded.
Jonathan Evans
And no, I don't know what enemy.
Carson Wood
we need that jew gold
Aaron Morales
Goddamnit. Middle option, since we don't know who is who.
Noah Young
Middle option is taken. Both France and Russia step down.
Bit of a disappointment, but I suppose they wanted to be home for Christmas. It is December 1923.
Nathan Cooper
Take it. We're in way over our heads here, we need to end this fast.
Adam Campbell
Well that's disappointing, but better than the alternative.
Thomas Powell
Who's fault?
Nathan Fisher
blame USA
Aiden Myers
Goddamnit USA.
Anthony Richardson
Time to take Hawaii.
Anthony Kelly
I dont think we can take on the land of the free
Liam Kelly
Let's keep it neutral, while muttering under our breath "Fucking drunk Americans and their holidays".
Oliver Cook
Where have you been user? Our superior Nipponese sailors krumped the inferior gaijin navy, and took their clay.
Xavier Davis
I must've missed it
Time to take clay then
Charles James
Big nation needs big gun.
Cooper Taylor
Clay? CLAY!
Not to mention, OIL
Benjamin Ramirez
PUPPET
Matthew Bailey
Take clay, build Yamato.
Eli Sanchez
Clay has been taken. US not happy about it.
Jose Morris
Time to culturally enrich venezuela
Levi Cook
You mean something like this?
Venezuela is loving their enrichment.
Charles Stewart
Looks like we've got two good things to defend in that area now.
Xavier Price
Is it possible to do a world conquest in this game?
Evan Williams
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Kayden Russell
good thing we grabbed panama earlier
Charles Jones
Oh, that'll do it. That'll fucking do it nicely. Fucking interwar Yamato with wing turrets.
Considering we have extra-huge guns, can we install some batteries at Panama to advantage ourselves if the US tries to take it?
The majority of the page is in English. Stop whining.
Jacob Thomas
tbh fam I say we start over as America
Cameron Nguyen
This game is fucking awesome.
I got it after seeing the first of these threads (many thanks for that) and I'm thouroughly enjoying it. Currently I'm attempting to take over the entire med as Austria-Hungary. France is proving tough and I suspect the UK is out of the question.
I've also got a second game with historical budgets, large fleets and low tech speed in which the South is rising again.
The devs got back to me in under and hour with a support request too.
Why the fuck is Paradox unable to make anything that compares to this with many, many times the budget?
Kayden Cook
In my defence things look a lot more joined up in the quick reply window.
Up to you fam. I'm a little disappointed we didn't get that war against France but we did pretty good.
Aaron Howard
I wouldn't mind continuing. The game doesn't model aircraft, but as it is, it doesn't seem like a hot European war ever started, which with a really wide and nonsensical althistory brush, means no air reconnaissance corps experience, no fighter or bombercraft, no floatplanes and no carriers. I want to see where this big-gun-battleship centric timeline goes, all because of Japan deciding to Tsushima EVERYONE instead of just the Russians and everything getting navally centric to contain her.
Austin Collins
Japanese-American War #2?
Adam Scott
2nd choice seems like a good one.
Carter Moore
bully them
Andrew Walker
Remove burger.
Angel Martin
Do it
Dylan Anderson
I'm good for option 1 or 2, at your discretion. Depends on if we can replicate our previous Pacific sucker-punch and once again whittle their Atlantic forces.
Owen Fisher
2
Chase Cox
As tensions rise, we move our fleet more towards the Caribbean and the West coast.
Thomas Price
DISHONRABRU GAIJIN
Nolan Richardson
IT BEGINS
Ryder Ross
Its time to remove burger
Ian Ward
We need to take Maine.
Adrian Ortiz
EXCECUTE BAKA GAIJIN
Nathaniel Morales
They may have more, but we'll have the first strike.
Y/N?
Should I even bother asking?
Connor Murphy
Bad idea, lack of capital ships.
Daniel Roberts
That's a lot of ships for a non-surprise attack. At your discretion.
Adam Stewart
Is that a submarine docked on a bigger submarine?
Nicholas Myers
Well shit, I only just now noticed that it isn't a surprise attack, but a regular cruiser action. Strange.
Baka-ing out.
Lincoln Mitchell
pull out and wait for the night surprise attack. Those always work.
Jeremiah White
It's a mini submarine for sneaking into harbors with explosives and scouting.
Those only happen on the first turn of th war if you have a fleet in the same area as an enemy base.
Evan Powell
well fug
Oliver Walker
Odds are pretty similar. Choice?
Noah Price
How long are we going to continue with this glorious nippon campaign? Would OP be willing to start a new campaign as another faction?
Levi King
Let's give it a try.
Thomas Ortiz
Let's give it a shot.
We will continue until our glorious empire dies in the blaze of glory. Or we get bored of this run. Whatever happens first.
Dominic James
The mission starts at night, and when dawn breaks this TR gets a rude good morning.
Xavier Campbell
Remember the Cuckold Surprise?
Entire division of DDs and CLs, force to flee
Mine
Andrew Johnson
Your 2nd link doesn't work, btw.
Jose Sanchez
fugg
Jayden Parker
Missed an image.
Y/N?
Colton Murphy
Y
RIP Cuckold Surprise
John Reyes
Y R.I.P. Cuckold Surprise. She died as she lived, cucked.
Ian Price
N
Brody Carter
I think we could probably swing that one.
Jace Ward
In other words, Y.
Levi Watson
Seems to be fairly equal in forces, i'd say go for it.
Zachary Cooper
Change the 7 to a 7z.
James Torres
We're off to a bad start.
Should we attempt a screening destroyer run?
Isaiah Myers
...
Thomas Garcia
This no longer seems like a good idea.
Blake Hall
...
Aiden Morgan
RIP BAKA BASHER
On the other hand, the AI controlled BBs of Brotherman Bill and Abe show up, and they look like they want to fight.
Joseph Taylor
Whelp.
Y/N
Evan Fisher
Never, go down with the ship. Figuratively and literally if needs be.
Zachary Campbell
...
Aaron Ortiz
...
Bentley Hernandez
Doesn't Japan have the majority anywhere?
Blake Collins
Go for it.
Isaac Sanders
Passed on it in favor of waiting for a reinforcement fleet. This one looks a bit better.
Ryder Campbell
Do it
David Cruz
We have the advantage, in theory? Let's go.
Benjamin Cruz
You know what to do.
Tyler Stewart
Paradox are a bunch of cucks who only are interested in the money generated by their DLC Platforms. They don't want their games to be complex. Try any Ageod game and see the difference.
Brody Clark
What should early minesweeper designs be like? The computer insists on building
Jaxson Lee
We saw the enemy fleet once, then they slunk away.
Alright, do you want to here the bad news?
No, do you really?
Before designing the 3DPD, I didn't realize that short range ships couldn't traverse provinces when at war. Now, I accounted for this before this war broke out, by ordering 3DPD to move to the Caribbean. I had assumed she'd move East, through North Asia and down the West Coast, meaning she'd be useful even if war broke out early. But she didn't, she went West.
3DPD is sitting, practically useless off the Western coast of Africa. I cannot move her.
Minesweepers also lower the odds of your ships hitting mines in regions they occupy.
Joseph Rivera
This can't get worse.
Kayden Long
...
Kevin Roberts
So, any chance we'll play the next game as Russia or France?
David Cox
Play as Russia and re-enact that disastrous Baltic-Pacific journey
Christopher Sanders
I'd actually be fine with that, because the game starts to shift to a format where capitals rule everything and fire control becomes advanced enough that you can't make those risky destroyer runs.
Shall we put it to a vote?
Nolan Peterson
I want to see the CSA.
Kayden Carter
So what kind of modding can we do to this game?
CE works for money if that matters.
Parker James
CSA is bretty cool. Shares a region with multiple powers, makes for some fun conflicts.
At the very least I'd like a bunch more political events.
Elijah Cook
I just remembered that somebody made a mod that makes coastal batteries much more deadly. Good thing, because in vanilla they're pretty useless.
Things go very well off the coast of Hawaii.
Carter Taylor
Nice. Looks like things might turn around, if we can keep leveraging our best ships.
Andrew White
On one hand, might want to restrict our subs. On the other, they produce results.
Take the fight?
Austin Bailey
Take it, disengage if no friendly battleships are on the scene to check/destroy theirs.
Ayden Nelson
Keep the subs on unrestricted warfare. It's too effective to give up.
Isaac Campbell
lol no
It's actually a shame because the post battle screen only showed two destroyers.
Jaxon Rivera
And this might turn out to be an actually good battle, if there's BBs involved.
Chase Wilson
go for it
Anthony Robinson
While we only have two DDs, it looks like the escorts defending the merchants are roughly the same, but worse armed.
Go for it?
James Wilson
oy vey leave those merchants alone you evil goy
Hunter Barnes
Give it a go, I suppose. I just hope there aren't interceptors in the wings.
Oliver Fisher
Things ended up going a bit pear shaped. We managed to down a few merchants, but took heavy damage in return.
Austin Edwards
oy vey
Gavin Gonzalez
That'll teach you to mess with God's Chosen People™.
Alexander Thompson
Y/N?
Evan King
Things went sketchy in the last war too and we still won.
Jacob Gray
That's a lot of guns to go up against…my gut says "no".
Josiah Moore
Think we're just gonna go.
Robert Lewis
A lucky hit puts our Benis dead in the water. Do we fight around the Benis?
Ian Miller
God's sake. Do we stand any realistic chance of relieving her?
Nicholas Johnson
Probably makes sense to fight around benis
Adam Walker
Fugg.
Can the other BB do anything?
Dylan Ortiz
How much autism does this game require?
Jordan Perez
Benis manages to get her power back and starts to limp away while our destroyers launch multiple torpedoes at close range. Despite the odds, none of our torpedoes manage to hit the Ranger. But, on the horizon, the BB Arinos Fist arrives. Can she turn this around?
Honestly, not a lot.
Elijah Thompson
Tell me these torpedoes desereved to miss. I dare you.
Oh, and Arino's Fist is charging in, forcing me to follow to it'll at least have a slight chance.
Matthew Hernandez
These torpedoes deserved to miss.
Joseph Davis
What are those grey circles? Are they projectiles?
Landon Morgan
It's surprisingly forgiving actually. Most of the boring parts are abstracted out. Paradox could really learn a thing or two about where details needs to be and where to ignore shit.
Play on Rear Admiral's mode and the AI will do most of the work for you too. Set anything not a big ship onto ai control that isn't already on it and shit is even easier. Most of the manual commanding is just speed, direction and occasional manually setting a target ship/squadron.
Thomas Parker
(Checked) Yeah, they're splashes.
(Checked) This user here makes a good point.
Jaxson Adams
Smoke user. The two black lines shooting towards it are torps.
In the second picture the white circles around ships are shots.
Jaxon Thompson
Interesting conclusion. What I had initially assumed to be a minor torpedo hit actually managed to sink one of the Kentucky Class BBs. While we lost Benis, it was nearly a decade older than the Kentucky and 2/3rds it's tonnage. Thus, this battle was actually a victory for us, although not a pretty one.
Black is smoke and affects accuracy. White circles are splashes from gunfire. Lines are torps.
Jason Watson
A technical victory is the best kind of victory.
Levi Bennett
Also, gonna call it there. Do we want to continue, or start a new campaign?
Thomas Bailey
It's a victory we can't really afford though :c
Propotianally they knocked out more of our ships, thus reduced our effectiveness significantly more. That's 2 Cruisers that could be raiding, patroling or screening.
Brayden Campbell
wew lad
Jaxon Hill
New campaign as burgers in celebration of the 4th
Daniel Reed
this
Jordan Stewart
This.
Either CSA or USA, don't really matter, thing is I love these threads.
Wyatt Flores
CSA would be nice for the alt history.
Brandon Nelson
Put it on CSA 2 where Spain owns most of the Med.
Dylan Cox
Oh and don't forget to update your game and make the side pictures for us to enjoy!
Isaiah Perez
dude boobs lmao
Christian Morgan
Goddammit.
I got back from my shower and though, "hey, I'll press the turn button one more time, nothing that major can occur, right?"
Kevin Rogers
faggot
Benjamin Robinson
S-so you guys wanna start that CSA campaign..?
Please don't bully me, user.
Adrian Howard
3 BB sunk. that's a definitive end to that campaign
Chase White
Jesus Christ.
Camden Phillips
Whelp, I guess we're moving on then…
Yes, I would be interested in another Campaign, regardless of what nation you play as.
Luke Taylor
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Easton Thomas
Shall we step down? Just want to confirm we're done with Japan.
Liam Sullivan
Well we won the game anyway, everything after 1925 was an alternate dimension that didn't happen.
On to the CSA!
Tyler Thomas
Starting a Russian campaign I assumed OP is going CSA so I hope I am not stealing his thunder :^)
John Perry
yup time for seppuku
Joseph Phillips
Naw, don't really mind. I'll just throw out suggestions for designs and give you ship names.
Was a fun campaign all. Thanks for playing along.
Liam Gonzalez
It was a fun ride.
Lucas Gutierrez
Please suggest fire control information, the manual didn't address it.
Asher Bell
So if this game goes into the late 1920s, why are there no early Aircraft carriers? The HMS Argus launched at the end of 1917.
Ethan Jackson
The farther down the selection menu, the better it is. That's it.
Xavier Young
All right. For Russians should I go with cramped/short range since I don't have colonies?
Cooper Hall
W-what? I don't think ス is a number.
Blake Gonzalez
You do realize the belt extended is the outside of the hull on the ends of the ship?
Zachary Adams
I would but keep normal freeboard.
If you're Italy or Austria you can go low freeboard early game since the med generally has fine weather.
Doesn't the game disallow 0.5 armour? I suspect that is what the message means.
Camden Gutierrez
I don't think protected cruisers can take BE armor.
Jaxson Miller
For armor values, I just go with what the AI gives me when I computer build then create the rest of the ship from there, but in this case I added a little bit of turret armor. Is belt extended really that important?
That did it, thanks. And here I was hoping for at least a bit of HE protection on the turrets without it getting horribly heavy.
Nathan Turner
Most of the early ones were pretty terrible, I would love to see some of the early float plane carriers though I agree.
Jaxon Rodriguez
The belt is literally the side of the hull, it's breddy important. Extended much less important than the main belt afaik.
Jaxson Bennett
Generally not on anything below an AC. Even BCs can skip it. Do note, however, that if you choose 'narrow' hull armour shots will more often hit BE.
Also you don't need deck armour on CLs. Complete waste in my opinion. Don't bother with DE on anything early game that isn't a B either.
Wyatt Brooks
They still carried torpedo bombers and provided essential flying recon. They didn't begin to outshine or show how much they'd take over until the 30s though.
Mason Nguyen
I think the devs are working on a WWII expansion, which almost certainly will have them. I also hope that they make subs more in-depth smilingspic.jpg,because subs are just abstracted as of now.
Liam Watson
Oh and always get 1 armour minimum on both primary and secondary guns or they'll get knocked out v. easily. I'd also add some extra ammo to any shit with a main gun lower than 10 calibre at least.
Jace Cruz
Because the dude that made this game doesn't have time to program in Airplanes, which means no spotter planes, and no Carriers.
That's why the game itself technically ends in 1925 because at around that date was when plane development was just starting to be integral to the navy. It only allows you to go on with the game for "fun".
He's currently working on a WW2 expansion, which means we'll get more boat variations like PT and MTB boats and well as Aircraft. But I'm not sure how fast he works, we could be looking at a dwarf-fortress like situation where all these plans are laid out but never actually put into practice.
You don't have the money to separate your forces however… If you go to war with Japan and have no boats in the area, and the boats that you do have are in Western Europe with low range, you're not getting them to the defense of Eastern Russia. So be sure to place your boats before a war breaks out, watch the Japanese tension closely otherwise you'll be up shit creek.
Short range boats are more for a static navy with lots of activity in the Mediterranean. If you play as Austria or Italy, this is almost a necessity.
Long range boats also make for efficient Raiders, and less random internment or scuttling chances.
It's extremely important for heavier boats before "All or Nothing" armor gets researched. I constantly take hits to my BE or DE and as a result my boats sink due to Quick firing secondaries.
Hits to BE wont normally do Superstructure or Gun/crew Damage, but enough will sink you easily.
Easton Myers
smh…
Cooper Brooks
They are always unarmoured. Mostly only useful for getting a few 6inch or below guns for a big ship to defend against DDs (accuracy penalty if shooting at them with anything >6inch).
Matthew Mitchell
What's the deal with superstucture in ship designs? Is this how you make multiple decks or conning towers?
Ryder Evans
That's just for looks. You can do it manually but it's easier to let the computer generate a ship for you (it'll do the superstructure) then edit it from there.
Sebastian Long
Oh and generating the side picture is also not necessary.
Nathaniel Allen
Yeah, I noticed there's an auto-symmetry, so I guess I can't make a swastika or other dank memes :/?
Dominic Evans
I can't say I've ever tried it. You could probably make a face using funnels…
By the way if you click gun data you'll see how the gun in question does at certain ranges. If you check any LC gun (7 inch and less) you'll see they have little-no deck penetration at any range. This is why I don't bother with armouring the deck: they shouldn't be fighting anything heavier than other LCs anyway and getting hit by a big calibre will fuck you up anyway. You can use the saved weight to armour turrets up, increase speed or decrease tonnage to save money.
Colton Wilson
I should have stuck another quad turret on it.
Kayden Gray
Prepare yourselves….
James Collins
Build at yard 15,000 means 15k displacement is the max, right? Sorry for dumb question
Jeremiah Lopez
Well, I pretty much took every event action possible to give me maximum budget, and soon enough my unrest level went from 2 to 11 in a single year because people got pissed at the military spending and now the Confederate States of America is a socialist country with the lowest naval budget in the world.
Don't repeat my mistakes, anons.
Yes. Make sure to get that shit up as much as you can.
David Barnes
Is using a flat deck with heavy belt and little deck a good idea for a heavyish battlecruiser?
Carson Foster
Muh deck
Liam King
I'm triggered.
Juan Morgan
I can't remember, doesn't the protected cruiser design suck?
Tyler Reyes
Illegal: main gun quality 9? I have two two-barrel turrets of 16 calibre/5 quality
Brayden Cook
5 quality means you haven't researched guns of that size yet.
Kevin Scott
ty
Ryan Carter
...
Grayson Brown
Hey, remember those colonies you had?
Had.
Also
You doing this shit? Or just playing it yourself?
Justin Roberts
I am still designing my legacy navy…
Kayden Adams
So before my ships run right through them, what are those red circles with lines through them?
Ayden Walker
Friendly Minefields.
Blue is enemy minefields. Your boats will avoid both. (Though enemy minefields are usually invisible, with only ports/docks being visible and labeled "suspected minefields") If you have minesweepers in an area they will reduce the amount of enemy mines through the months of war. Though I've never seen dock minefields be tampered with, I think that's more just a gameplay barrier to allow your ships to run and prevent enemy ships from getting into enemy docks.
Aiden Smith
...
Anthony King
...
Nathan Roberts
Yeah, he was a way bigger dick than I am portraying him as
Adam Thompson
Only thing I don't care for is the torpedo placement on the destroyer, but I know you're working around the center line restriction. And the CL, but I find CLs useless in most scenarios, and are only really good as raiders. Is the torpedo on the B just to fill out the weight or to finish crippled ships? Either way, I worry you might not be able to improve the Fire Control afterwards without replacing the machinery, which extends the refit time and can screw you in a war.
As it did in the Jap campaign.
Nathan Harris
Hmm, there's a theme to these builds…
Luke Foster
My whole navy is in Northern Europe, I think I have to move some ships to my Asian holdings to discourage those Japanese pigdogs from surprise attacking me.
I've got 1,498 spare tons on the penetrator. On the smaller ships I didn't leave much room. I went for medium range on all of my ships and I feel like that might have been a mistake
Aaron Collins
I also don't know why I bothered putting torpedoes on my battleship. Woops.
Easton Cruz
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Benjamin Watson
Oh, now I (think I) know why I have torpedoes, the auto-build put it on and I forgot to remove it.
I meant 1,498 spare displacement, no bully please
Kevin Mitchell
Just giving you a heads up user. You're gonna have your first war. One class of your ships are gonna distinguish themselves as dependable workhorses who constantly exceed your expectations (once you understand what to expect). They will be the pride of your navy. Enemy sailors with turn tail and steam home when they see them.
In five, ten years max they will be useless.
That is the nature of the time period.
When you realize this, you will go to the design table to create your new wonder weapon. She will carry bigger guns, go faster, take hits harder and suck your dick while she does it.
Within a year you will see ships that stand head and shoulders above her.
That is the nature of the time period. Because that's how arms races work.
Logan Sanchez
Displacement is measured in tons, m8
Landon White
Oh, so I thought I was being retarded in here but it was actually here
Thanks for the advice, sounds a lot like what the manual says about when to build your ships.
Cooper Brooks
Building a 12in fort on Sakhalin to deter nippon.
Camden Garcia
Spying on the Austrians raises tensions, but because I can beat them easily, I don't see how that's a problem.
Camden Adams
Time to upgrade my ships already I guess.
Andrew Bell
Too bad this game doesn't have netplay.
Brody Miller
Is "rebuild" the method for upgrading a ship?
Isaac Russell
I thought the term was refit?
Parker Flores
H'wat do?
Levi Roberts
I can't find the song with those lyrics, but this is close enough.
Hunter Moore
Fucking hell, all I wanted was Cuba but no. I'm sure a good player would be happy with their newfound far flung naval bases, but dammit I don't want to micromanage outside of the Mediterranean.
Jason Davis
Sheeeeeit.
Adrian Long
that's passive i believe. you only need to upgrade when you get a new model of FC. at least, i think so.
(checked) low tensions? no risk? go for the CLAY.
do reliable engines stop the thing where ships will overheat/etc and get reduced speed even when going 2 knots under their maximum from happening?
because that shit is annoying when running down/away from enemies. especially when it happens almost instantly after you speed up.
Justin Lopez
I'd go for it. Looks like it'd be a good fight.
Gavin Brooks
I think so. It also reduces the chances of raiders being force to surrender to neutral ports for engine failures.
Jace Brooks
Austria.
Please.
Lincoln Lopez
Thanks for bringing this game to Holla Forums, OP.
These threads have been fun as hell, even if I haven't had the time to post much.
Gabriel Morales
lame as fuck, AI is doing a shit job of taking advantage of Austria's strengths (can pick short range/cramped everything)
Wyatt Scott
Not only that, but they have 11 coastal batteries. 6 of them are around Splato, and 3 of those are 11".
Elijah Sanchez
You'll think twice before sailing your ships on Austrian sand.
Hunter Jenkins
Spain is a pain in the ass to play, with colonies in the Caribbean and SE Asia. I also just noticed we've reached past bump limit, someone want to make a new thread?
Is RUScampaign user still here? Or is he still playing his first battle?
Gavin Mitchell
Maybe I should fucking read before posting.
Dylan Campbell
We sailed past each other, finally found them again…
Jaxon Watson
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Daniel Gomez
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Ian Rivera
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Adrian Cook
What fleet size are you on?
Logan Morris
Meatyjium
Noah Mitchell
Learn to shoot, lads.
Ryan Taylor
Oh fuck me, my game crashed. Couldn't reload the save. W/e I'll call it a night.
Brandon Jenkins
Anyone feeling like making new thread? This one is already sinking.
Austin Myers
Back up your designs outside of the game save file so they last outside of the save and don't get overwritten
Joseph Mitchell
i fucking love torpedoes.
Adrian Johnson
MY EYES Any idea how to get torpedoes to fire? I've gotten my CAs into range with smaller ships in skirmishes and they never fire. I right clicked, division was not on hold fire.
Ayden Howard
I still haven't figured out what the requirements are for a successful torpedo attack though.
Carson Harris
Wether torpedos are fired or not depends on hit probability and is decided according to each crews discretion. The hit probability depends on torpedo technology, distance, crew quality, bearing in relation to the enemy parallel is best and training.
What you can also do is go to preferences and switch to captain's mode which should allow you to fire torps manually
Nathan King
I think there's a speed limit for sub torps I read somewhere on the forums that anything over 19 knots and you can't fire them.
As for destroyers and how to actually get them to fire, it's based on crew skill and training. If you don't train with torpedo warfare (which will take about 12 months) chances are you're going to have unsuccessful torpedo runs. Rule of thumb is stay within range and wait for them to fire, then break off.
The slower the target the easier it is to hit. If you're firing torps at a fully functioning ship, with no flooding damage or rudder damage, you're more than likely going to miss.
Nolan Bennett
Raiding Mediterranean against Austria, intercepted by a puny 10k displacement battleship.
Tyler Mitchell
they ded
Bentley Gonzalez
I like these odds, my battleship got intercepted.
Brayden Scott
I ran her through with my big 12 incher
Nathan Mitchell
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Alexander Long
Jesus christ. That was fun but exhausting. Sank two enemy battleships and several destroyers, lost five destroyers and a battleship. That battleship probably would have survived if the other enemy battleship didn't say a final fuck you by firing a torpedo at my battleship, after being crippled and being set on fire. Had to disengage due to running out of ammunition.
Benjamin Hernandez
torpedoes love to fuck your day up, and they only get better at it as the game goes
Austria pls
Also, page 14.
Carson Parker
Is this shit real time online?
Ian Sanchez
no ;u
Parker Brooks
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH This was a mistake.
Bentley Perry
So this is my dedicated commerce raider- haven't built any yet. I should probably lower the size of the main gun and upgrade the armor, it's more important she can run away and survive being chased by a dreadnought than be able to kill her targets super quickly.
Would appreciate recommendations.
Didn't mean to make this a reply :s
Carter Murphy
RIP
Robert Perez
Did I do good? I think I did.
Ian Kelly
That'll do, pig.
Jaxson Diaz
The Kaiser is always mad at me for some reason.
Ethan Martinez
If you're playing Austira, you need to choose cramped accomodation and short range for your ships so you can fit more armor/guns than your enemies who need medium/long range ships for their empires.
John Brown
But how would I invade America?
Jace Walker
song related I believe the refrain is so if you just insert a "losing" at the beginning it's pretty relevant.
Ian Butler
You don't, you bully the Mediterranean :^)
Ian Cook
I try to add more main weapons, but I always got a negative ROF mod on it. Should I roll with it anyway?
Xavier Nguyen
It's best to avoid ROF modifiers (negative ones), unless they're only 10 or 20. Still, not fun to have.